It's interesting that someone so knowledgeable would not know how to properly pronounce "coriolis", and "muzzle". He clearly says "corliolis" and "muscle". You'd think this dude who probably does tours like this several times a day, would know how pronounce those words properly. Edit: LMAO uhh it's a year later and ya'll keep replying to me, so yeah, I'm gonna keep rresponding back. You KZfaq commentators are the cream-of-the-special-education-crop. Jesus christ you all must have aspergers or ASD or something and teacher left you alone on the class computer to get mad at people who are both smarter and wittier than you. God damn. Well, keep 'em coming, losers. This guy sucks and so do you.

@@kind2311 I bet you stutter when making an order at Wendys.

@@robotslug Do you mean _placing_ an order, or _taking_ an order? Because when you _make_ an order, you use your hands, not your voice. If you're gonna try to insult someone based on them insulting someone else which has no effect on you, at least do it right.

@@kind2311 P-P-Pickles?!

@@kind2311 shut up

Why replace something that is so accurate and can takes a lot bother

And they used rc planes to make sure the shells were falling on target and it make even better adjustments

The best part is that it isn’t even just a case of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. They researched replacing the computers with digital/electronic ones in the 80s, and were told that with the level of redundancy and accuracy required it wouldn’t save any space, power, or money

They had them dialed in, plus those munitions are so large a little circular error probability isn't much of a problem because of the blast radius.

I had read back in the 90's that there was an attempt to replace the analog with digital. The results led to the decision to leave well enough alone. The analogs performance could not be matched by digital.

There are some really good videos on YT about fire control and analog computers.. makes you think about computers in a different way.

That computer was designed by using slide rules. it makes the moon landing deniers look that much more ignorant. NASA engineers basically went to the moon using steampunk technology.

It's also sad that for we humans, we are at our most creative when figuring out how to kill each other

@@Belioyt Getting rounds on target before your opponent does is a powerful impetus for technological improvement

I'm just totally blown away by these computers! They're like having clocks that control clocks that control clocks or something. All of that calculating is done with gears and wheels, which is so so much more impressive than some silicon, though the density of transistors in the latter is amazing. I don't know what integrating is in a mathematical sense, but I believe these analog computers use "ball and disc integrators", which by themselves are very clever devices.

if it helps i have the M113 Ops manual which has the manual included for the .50cal LOL

you can't get armed battleships in canada :(

Did you opt for the ClearCoat? I didn't. I think they rip you off on the ClearCoat.

Mine had rust in the rifling! I said I wanted them relined and they said it would take 6 months and to just fire a few rounds thru each and that would take care of it...

Did you actually like for real buy a battle ship?

fcken sent it

LOL :D

Yup

Lmao.

Me and him have something in common.... oh wait not anymore I just finished.

*cough cough buzzfeed libtards*

@@charliemannion2718 whaaat?? Hahahaha.

Friend Chicken watch this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y9pme6eIv6_eZXU.html

More specifically the 2:58 mark

Usually when you accidentally tap a trigger you send a round down range and get a stern talking to. Worst case you kill somebody. You accidentally tap this trigger, and you're a war criminal.

jth877 that's pretty cool shit.

The gentleman in this video was the former curator of the ship.

He did 4:10

He mentioned it was roll compensation

I don't remember my guide being very enthusiastic about it. We did go through all of the demos allthough it wasn't in this much detail.

thats what presenters do for a living. literally everyone that works with crowds does this, if no they will not have that job for very long.

@@unfortunately_fortunate2000 little late on the explanation, eh bud?

@@unfortunately_fortunate2000 Hahaha! I love it!! Stay cool, ya fuckin' hoser

Lmao

@TheEnd not that it is any of your business but no, I'm 19 & quite enjoy being a schmuck an douchebag on the internet. why does my age concern you? what would my age really change, exactly? the internet is about having fun, if picking arguments on the web gives me joy, why does this concern you or anybody else for that matter? what are you, the YT commenter police?

Jesus dude, those guys were in some shit. I went onto the USS Yorktown, saw the boiler rooms and saw old footage. These guys would work in 120 or so degrees, sometimes hotter. You're in a cramped space, with poor ventilation. Granted, I observed air ducts pointed towards the stations. Though I suspect they're more modern implements to keep the tour goers cool. If they suspected a steam leak, they were to grab a broom so they could locate the leak. They would find it when the bristles of the broom instantly vaporized. It wasn't easy work. The things our ancestors had to go through..most adversity today pales in comparison.

I worked on merchant ships in the engine room for most of my working life. I know heat and shit and sweat - but at no time was anyone trying to kill me. A bomb or torpedo in the engine room will kill the entire watch - a near miss could fracture a high pressure steam line or feedwater line and cook everyone in that compartment. In my early days I sailed with men who had been on the Atlantic and Northern Russian convoys and they had very little to tell because their memories were too horrific to recall. I also visited WW2 era Royal Navy ships and witnessed the long dogs on the outside of the watertight compartments to stop anyone getting out of a rapidly flooding space and jeopardising the ship. Join the Navy and see the world.

@@coryaw95 Superheated steam can't be seen, unlike saturated steam. How do I know this, used to help operate a side wheel paddle steamer.

@@coryaw95 my dad was a BT from 51-55 on a DE and an APD (converted DE). he told me of when they were doing gunnery practice off Vieque Island and the ventilation broke down. over 150o with a 10 minute watch rotation. 10 in the hole, 10 to come up to the deck for air then repeat. and then the time in the North Atlantic escorting the USS Mindoro (escort carrier) in november in a storm where the blowers were bringing in such frigid air they had difficulty breathing. they had to stand with their backs to the boilers.

Neighbor was a boiler operator on the CV-12 in Vietnam, those guys always have some cool tales!

i'd probably say RIP everytime i fired those guns

YEAH WELL MY MOM WORKS AT TAMPA BAY HOOTERS

Damn that's sick

@@caballopalido hell yeah buddy

So your father could have killed thousands of people, impressive.

Forever, or at least, how long the servers will exist.

Respect 🙏

Or as long as humans are

bingo

@Eric explain why he's wrong

Caliber = the internal diameter or bore of a gun barrel. which is 16" in this case.

50 caliber is 1/2" so are you saying its 16" in diameter and its only 1/2" long?

MIKEDUZZI en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/16%22/50_caliber_Mark_7_gun Read the Wikipedia description. It explains it. :)

I heard about that originally when I was stationed on Okinawa in 1973, I was told that New Jersey was taking fire from an old Japanese bunker and shore battery position that the NVA had taken over and mounted guns in. They damaged a couple of cruisers, or so I was told. You have to admit that to a land lubber an Iowa class BB in profile looks a bit like a Baltimore class CA so it's likely the North Vietnamese had no idea what it was they were pissing off. They missed, New Jersey didn't. The story teller said that when New Jersey was dismantling that installation one of her 16" rounds found the gun emplacement magazine. It went up and the island topography was seriously rearranged. Still very impressive.

Robert F Okinawa ... my first tour before the Jersey, I was with 2/3. They were out of Okinawa. Semper Fi

I was there also, news said the shore line changed. It did look like a different island.

@@randyghilarducci9509 were you on the New Jersey ? I was in 4th division

What? He died? How old? What a shame.

Dan Hillman He passed away this past summer, he was 43 I believe. Lost a battle with a brain tumor.

@@illbuyourniknakto bad. so young.

RIP. Those brave battleship sailors will take good care of him up there.

@@illbuyourniknak Damn.

Lol

Canada has the best ground troops in the world my friend =) but yall got the navy on lock

@@kikoredog 2 rite my (possibly) fellow canadian

kikoredog Notice how he made a joke. And didn’t insult Canada? So why did you get butthurt?

kikoredog America beats every other country

So what happens if you are traveling directly over the equator - hmmmm? chaos!

Yeah I rolled my eyes at that question, too. That has nothing to do with Coriolis effect. (It's not even true that draining water circulates one way in the Northern hemisphere and the other way in the Southern)

@@seanbreheny9777 it is only true if your toilet is various kms in diameter.

What did the guy in the video reply after which everyone started laughing? I heard "Red Bull light" but that doesn't make sense

Did you get the heated trigger grips option with yours? I went & head n’ splurged on myself a little cuz not only did I get em’ heated but also cooled. Fuel mileage is piss poor on her though but whatev…

He died?

@@HotGlahbi Summer 2018

That was really sad 😔 too here that

Bro 15kt is the equivalent to the bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki wtf

Some days you just didn’t really feel like expending more than 3 shells to take out an enemy ship.

he probably could

Well he’s the captain they probably have to

Well he hasn't been born yet

Ah a fellow trekkie

I think you meant photon torpedoes.

u here?

0:00........... you’re welcome...

are you talking about the girl on the left? Looks like my ex.

@@stingfing412 Right, this guy talking has a lot of character.

What am I looking at?

And they still work...

Good enough that they didnt replace it during the 80's modernization for the simple fact that no electronic fire control system we had in the 80's was as reliable and accurate as this engineering marvel in and of itself invented some 50 years prior.

I heard a computer science gut was tasked during the modernization of these ships to come up with a better fire control system. After extensive research he wrote back and said 'Forget about it"!

It was incredibly sophisticated. All done mechanically with very precisely-machined gears and gyros. And it still worked perfectly fifty years later to the point where they didn't bother to retrofit a fancier digital computer system onto the guns. I do wonder how many spare parts they had available though in the 1980s-90s for the recommissioning.

i think he meant the natural flow of draining water, not a toilet.

What the man said is true . Research and learn .

@@judgeomega Legit didn't get notifications for this until I had the video recommended to me again LMAO. But yeah I get you, but the man clearly said "flush your toilets".

After 100 comments, i haven't seen anyone call it .50 cal. I'm not going through all of them. Did you?

@@dalea1691 Well it is in the title (Firing the 16" 50 caliber guns on the Battleship New Jersey) Protip - ctrl+f for finding text.

Random information matters people

Yes, we physicists know that. But he's trying to explain the plotting rooms account of the coriolis effect quickly, to slightly more simple people :p

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aq95icmgqdu6eas.html This is a perfect demonstration that coriolis does have an effect. Or is the earth flat?

@@mercurysmodels6721 those are tourist scams

Old toilets don't do that.

boss* you mean?

Although it's not strange, cause I do.

Buy the 2012 movie "Battleship". If the guns don't do it for you, and the soundtrack doesn't do it for you, both Rhianna and Brooklyn will.

Agree, he is so good and enthusiastic

It wasn't really accurate tho. He's quite exaggerating it. There's a large margin of error. There's a reason why battleships got obsolete because missiles were more accurate and have a longer range.

@@GriseWeisshark By the standards of the day the MK-8 Rangekeeper was deadly quite accurate. The USS West Virginia fired on the Japanese Battleship Yamashiro at 13 miles and hit her on the FIRST salvo and hit Yamashiro on 6 of the next 7 salvos.

@@CRAZYHORSE19682003 plus dude above failed to notice the mechanical FCS wasn’t even replaced through out its life and 91 when it was retired and electric FCS had been around

Yeah, if power backup was important then, it's important now. I imagine they have independent battery backup that they use before hand-cranking as a third option -- but that's just a guess.

@@WilliamPitcher Emergency generators as 2 line and backup batteries as third line. But anyways. What he didn't mentioned, if there happens to be a total blackout on the New Jersey (including emergency generators etc.), good luck turning that 2100 tons turret by hand, let alone rising the 121 tons barrel up. That may work with the secondary, but not with the main artillery.

At the Second Naval Battle of Guadalcanal USS South Dakota suffered a power failure just as she was engaging the Japanese formation at night and it shut her down hard, except for propulsion. No way to load, aim and fire the guns, even with a guy turning a hand crank or whatever. The Kirishima and other Japanese ships tried to shoot her up while she struggled, but USS Washington was with her, got a quick radar solution, and turned Kirishima into swiss chees in short order, saving the bacon and winning the battle.

...basic math time...50 x 16 inches does not equal 406 mm. 50x16=800...inches. not mm. 800 inches=66.7 feet ...the length of the gun barrel. 406 mm is less than half a meter in length. Picture, if you will, the 16 inch guns of this battleship, with a length of less than 18 inches. Heck of a mortar though...

@@eaterofclams I'm not sure if you're trolling or not but 406 mm comes out to... 16 inches. They're 406 mm wide, not long.

THANK YOU

@@eaterofclams these are accual guns. what most people call guns are rifles and pistols. rifle and pistol caliber is just that. rifle and pistol, not guns. shot used to be weighed, not measured in a caliber, or tenths of inches. by that scale this would be a 3600 pounder? honestly I think sailors do this because they can. they spend so much time out at sea they get bored and make this stuff up and its always blindingly hot so none of it makes much sense. but damn if they are going to admit anything like that to a stinkin' land lubber.....

@@eaterofclams you're absolutely wrong. Delete this comment.

Personally, I like the RN firing gongs. Bing Bing.....BOOM!

Efemral its basically the rotation of the earth which is what effects toilet water.

@@sideswipe147Theoretically, as the Coriolis force is caused by that very rotation of the Earth. Only if Egemral wouldn't be right.

Buffer Buffer ah but it does effect the waters drain rotation. facts are such pesky little things.

@@sideswipe147 Yes, it dows (e.g. in the bathing tube), but not in the toilet (maybe it does in these strange, water-filled US-toilets). In a "normal" toilet, the water flushing down into the bowl will be affected by gravity and the design of the toilet itself way more than by the Coreolis effect, therefore leaving it negligible. If I am wrong about that, correct me. I am always ready to learn new things.

@@bufferbuffer7320 smartereveryday has a video demonstrating the effect and how finicky it is.

Giant slow-moving target with minimal stand-off range in a battlefield dominated by long range missiles... Even with a few CIWS a battleship would be easy pickings on the modern battlefield.

What defines a battleship isn't the guns, it's the armor. For a ship to be considered a battleship, it has to be sufficiently armored to take a hit from any of its own weapons. For guns this is fairly easy, you just need armor that's as thick as the diameter of your largest shells. For missiles, you'd need a lot more, so much that it would be completely impractical. In fact, arming a battleship with missiles technically makes it no longer a battleship, as those missiles would be able to defeat its armor.

@Mike Schnobrich it's very simple almost child like in comparison to today's equipment

@Travis Thacker very cool

What is it actually computing? Something involving trigonometry and possibly calculus (integration/differentiation)?

I think he knows that but that's the example he used so the crowd would get it.

@@CousinBowling my complaint is that he is perpetuating the spread of misinformation so that they can 'get it'. and incidentally by causation when they do get it they get the wrong 'it'. this is the thing that drives me nuts about the public education system. most of the crap kids learn in school isn't even close to accurate. they teach to approximations and memorizations. stupidity isn't something you're born with it is something that is taught... I'm saying we need to stop teaching stupidity.

@@Unmannedair fair point

​@@Unmannedair They're learning about a ww2 firing computer, not toilets. If he were teaching about how toilets worked to UT's or whatnot, that information would be misleading as hell. But the use of it as an example here is so he doesn't go into a full blown lecture on the Coriolis effect, which in essence would end up wasting time and potentially end up with none of them understanding.

@@Unmannedair uh how did you get a simple example a lot of people may know which is half the definition of a myth and put it with the public education system? Myths are myths and will spread

Omfg lol your amazing. That was funny as well

Hurricanes do. It's just that the Coriolis effect is maybe a ten millionth of gravity. So, it shows up in large weather systems. Toilets rotate the way the water is jetted into it. If you had a perfect basin and perfectly still water, it would rotate the same as hurricanes. The effect, though, is minimal for a few pounds of water. The showman in Kenya who step back and forth over the equator and have the water switch rotation direction are fakes and manipulate the angle the water is introduced into the bowl.

the 13mm MG _131_ was a machine gun regardless of munition.

Looks a bit like Jack Patillo from Achievement Hunter.

No

Most people don't understand that toilet manufacturers determine the way water flows in a toilet by the way they place the "jet" let alone the Coriolis effect.

Thumbnail*?

Its also referring to different things. Caliber for artillery, and caliber for small arms.

@Fred Cink Wrong! Every ship that fights on the ocean in war is a battleship! Some that sail the seas are called destroyers with many classes and types, frigates of many classes, corvettes, patrol boats, submarines, even stealth ships, and many support ships above and below the waterline! We have aircraft carriers of many classes, cruisers, battle cruisers, missile cruisers, etc., destroyers of many types and classes.off-shore patrol vessels; other countries have these vessels also. Our military seamen are always watching the sea lanes and they must be able to identify many vessels, and not just by the flag they fly! It's a big job! The U.S. Navy, Coast Guard and Marine ships are decommissioned over the years and are then scrapped, saved for parts or scuttled at the end of their useful lives.

@@MJLeger-tz4so > *_"Every ship that fights on the ocean in war is a battleship! "_* That would be better describing the term "warship" or more specifically "surface combatant." Battleships are a type of warship. The _Iowas_ have been decommissioned since 1991/ 1992. Both _New Jersey_ and _Missouri_ were struck off in the nineties. Soon followed by the _Iowa_ and _Wisconsin_ in 2006 when they too were struck from the Naval Register. And then in 2011 and 2010 respectively the Congressional order for possible reinstatement of _Iowa__ and _Wisconsin_ into the Naval Register and eligibility for recommissioning expired.

lol

Adam Orick exactly what I was thinking, it's scary people like that train gunners...

If the toilet was big enough there would be a difference

1218 no thier wouldn't. Toilets flush based on the direction of the holes built in the porcelain. Naturally if it were to have straight holes instead of angled it wouldn't swirl

Adam Orick the Coriolis effect is still in play when firing over large distances

Duncan McGee this isn't about firing, this is about shitter water swirls