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Firing the Moncrieff Disappearing Gun at Crownhill Fort

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Crownhill Fort

Crownhill Fort

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The first firing of the Moncrieff Disappearing Gun at Crownhill Fort since 2010. The gun and carriage have been restored to working order by a team of volunteers. This firing took place on Firepower Day, a public event that runs every May at the Fort

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@crownhillfort2061
@crownhillfort2061 Жыл бұрын
This Gun will be fired at a special event on the evening of Wednesday 10th May 2023. Tickets will go on sale at Easter
@Coreybug
@Coreybug Жыл бұрын
Is this animated?
@stevenwarne69
@stevenwarne69 Жыл бұрын
@@Coreybug no?
@lordwolffurry582
@lordwolffurry582 Жыл бұрын
@@Coreybug is your brain working?
@dah9vandals
@dah9vandals Жыл бұрын
can we shoot it at my exes house?
@stevenwarne69
@stevenwarne69 Жыл бұрын
@@dah9vandals lol
@Weretyu7777
@Weretyu7777 Жыл бұрын
So, just want to see if I've got this right. Back when this gun would have been in use, you would have had a full team working to reload the gun and raise it up but you didn't have to worry about bringing it back down because the recoil of the gun did it for you. That's actually pretty clever!
@ruststar
@ruststar Жыл бұрын
You are 100% correct
@zabdas83
@zabdas83 Жыл бұрын
Means crew are protected from small arms etc while reloading! Genius. . .
@garrettdemoss9465
@garrettdemoss9465 Жыл бұрын
You wouldn't have needed to raise it all the way either due to its bordering on counter weight design. Only about half way before it went into place.
@barneylinet6602
@barneylinet6602 Жыл бұрын
An artillery piece crew is a wonder to watch. Every movement is choreographed; the choregraphy is based on speed and safety. There are drill manuals that specify each position and the duty of each artilleryman.
@GpunktHartman
@GpunktHartman Жыл бұрын
... boaring ... why not a full load ... my muzzleloderrifle is louder!
@georgem7965
@georgem7965 Жыл бұрын
I realize that the firinmg is just a small portion of the original charge but if you put in some wadding it will give an actual bang rather than a "Whoosh." A bag of dry corn (maize) meal will give just enough resistance to give a good bang but no down range projectile (it MUST be dry). Also, using a welding mixture of oxygen and acetylene win the chamber will give a very satisfying bang with practically zero internal pressure.
@skinniestfatman5641
@skinniestfatman5641 Жыл бұрын
Dont think they can do this as crownhill is surrounded by houses
@stephenclarke4675
@stephenclarke4675 Жыл бұрын
Damp squid :)
@macattack9041
@macattack9041 Жыл бұрын
Noise. Ordinance.
@Useaname
@Useaname Жыл бұрын
Ordnance
@bertiewooster3326
@bertiewooster3326 Жыл бұрын
@@skinniestfatman5641 Don't see why not.
@novadave7214
@novadave7214 5 жыл бұрын
Spoiler - does not disappear
@aaronrosner8446
@aaronrosner8446 4 жыл бұрын
It has no projectile
@curlybrownliz
@curlybrownliz 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately blank charges do not produce the intended recoil. If we were to load a projectile the residents of suburban Plymouth might have cause for complaint!
@jacjumpin7471
@jacjumpin7471 Жыл бұрын
Id be afraid that thing would explode
@Schismarch
@Schismarch Жыл бұрын
This comment almost makes up for it not disappearing.
@SotEnjoyer113
@SotEnjoyer113 Жыл бұрын
It’s called that because, with a projectile firing out if it, the opposite reaction would be gun recoil in which it would send the gun below the wall into its resting position where the enemy could not see it.
@bgreen8853
@bgreen8853 Жыл бұрын
A similar gun was purchased by New Zealand to defend Wellington city it sat for nearly fifty years and in the 1930s a scrap dealer turned up in a small truck took the base and they buried the gun my best guess is that it's under the pohutakawa trees near the steps to the war memorial . I was drilling for geo technical data and nearly every hole an old boy would approach me and ask if I've found the gun yet
@heuhen
@heuhen Жыл бұрын
how big is that gun? Do they know if they managed to lift the gun out, or they managed to tip it over the wall, when it was in an upraised position. do people know what direction it went down the hill, if it did (what is the chance that it might have managed to get all the way down (mass in movement) What is the chance for he come back at a later time and dug it up again (metal is money)
@bgreen8853
@bgreen8853 Жыл бұрын
@@heuhen apparently tipped the gun off straight into a pre dug hole but your right that was 90 years ago he could have came back for it shame really
@andrebartels1690
@andrebartels1690 Жыл бұрын
That's a crying shame.
@JasonWW2000
@JasonWW2000 Жыл бұрын
So are you saying they sold the gun to a scrap dealer or that the scrap dealer stole it?
@bgreen8853
@bgreen8853 Жыл бұрын
@@JasonWW2000 the gun was located in buckle street which was an army base and many years later became a police headquarters only 20m away from where the gun would have been they were still hanging people for crimes so I'm assuming the scrap dealer was a decent chap
@d.s.parentsr6502
@d.s.parentsr6502 Жыл бұрын
It's remarkable to think that in a combat situation this weapon which can deal such devastating firepower would be exposed to its enemy for only seconds at a time before vanishing to relative safety for reload. The gun would be rolled up and almost immediately recoiled back down as it fired.
@machintelligence
@machintelligence Жыл бұрын
The safety was only relative. The “bombs bursting in air” would have put a lot of shrapnel down in that pit.
@briananthony4044
@briananthony4044 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't have made it accurate, you'd be lucky to hit your target after firing hundreds of rounds.
@heuhen
@heuhen Жыл бұрын
these guns had a rate of fire of : 1 rounds per minute, sometimes 0.5 rounds per minute. (for both 8 inch version and 16 inch version), while German 15 inch guns had a firing rate of 2.5 rounds per minute (as standard). For example HMS Warspite 15 inch guns had a rate of fire of 2 rounds per minute (but there have been situation, where there was reports of 2 rounds per minute.
@Stale_Mahoney
@Stale_Mahoney Жыл бұрын
@@heuhen speaking of guns half a century newer is of little concern, like saying how obsolete todays military is compared to the new 2070 military in 50 years
@g.t.richardson6311
@g.t.richardson6311 Жыл бұрын
@@machintelligence while somewhat true the guns of the 4 fortified islands in Manila bay fired almost up to the last days before surrender in may 1942 . Some were knocked out, but not most. Many of them were same type as this. Also a large contingent of 12 inch sea coast mortars. The problem was they were made to fire at ships coming from South China Sea, not land targets. Much of the ammunition was useless for that.
@Reblwitoutacause
@Reblwitoutacause Жыл бұрын
Amazing that the original gun, AND ORIGINAL CREW are manning it. They look great for 210 years old
@TSZatoichi
@TSZatoichi 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty neat, if a little disappointing. I wish we still had some of our disappearing guns here at Fort Stevens on the Oregon coast.
@clutchpedalreturnsprg7710
@clutchpedalreturnsprg7710 Жыл бұрын
I wish we still had some of our disappearing guns here at Fort Crockett on the Gulf coast.
@lanedexter6303
@lanedexter6303 Жыл бұрын
Fort Casey& Fort Worden in Washington
@d.s.parentsr6502
@d.s.parentsr6502 Жыл бұрын
​​@@lanedexter6303I immediately thought of Fort Worden as well. I love that place. So strange that we both found this 4-year-old video on the same day.
@FishKepr
@FishKepr Жыл бұрын
@@lanedexter6303 There are examples at Fort Casey, but only empty bunkers at Fort Worden. BTW, the guns at Fort Casey were not original to the fort but were imported from the Philippines after WW2. If you go there you will find damage to them from American aircraft. The breach blocks are also missing as they were dropped in the ocean on the way to WA.
@lanedexter6303
@lanedexter6303 Жыл бұрын
@@FishKepr interesting, thanks! I remember going to Fort Casey years ago, and being fascinated by the mechanism of those guns. Too bad we can never see them in operation. Those forts could have truly commanded that strait before aircraft carrier warfare evolved.
@wlpret
@wlpret Жыл бұрын
By the time it is ready to fire, the gunners had forgotten why they wanted to fire it.
@briansharp4388
@briansharp4388 Жыл бұрын
Was gonna say....even without all the explanation, civilian volunteers, your target better not be moving too fast...
@bigredc222
@bigredc222 Жыл бұрын
A trained crew can do it a heck of a lot faster.
@hoosierplowboy5299
@hoosierplowboy5299 Жыл бұрын
🤙😂
@garrettdemoss9465
@garrettdemoss9465 Жыл бұрын
Considering how state of the art this was when it was made, with a fully trained crew this would have been a rather rapid firing piece of artillery for its day.
@heuhen
@heuhen Жыл бұрын
Just some extra info: Some British disappearing 8 inch guns had a firing rate of 1 round/minutes sometimes 0.5 round/minutes. The weird things is the bigger 16 inch guns version had a firing rate of right around 1 round/minute. The rate of fire was a big disadvantage of these guns, specially when a Battleship 15 inch guns, like those on HMS Warspite firing 2 round/minutes. Have heard stories about they do 3 rounds/minutes, in some situation, but 2 rounds/minutes are the normal for battleships. A British 8 inch cruiser guns could fire between 3 to 6 rounds/minute. HMS Belfast 6 inch guns had between 6-8 rounds/minutes. (Note: Nelson class battleship, had 1.5 rounds/minute) (Note: German Bismarck class battleships 15 inch guns had 2.5-3 rounds/minute, while WW1 Baden class battleships fired 2.5 rounds a minute)
@miafillene4396
@miafillene4396 Жыл бұрын
Okay. When you realize, the Dahlgrens on the Monitor...fired 500lb. Shot...and this gun is still a monster.
@owendigity1581
@owendigity1581 Жыл бұрын
When you realize, 10 years ago buy powder and caps
@lanequick7451
@lanequick7451 Жыл бұрын
I think the Yamato fired shells weighing over 3,000lb and could accurately hit targets over 20 miles away. Naval gun technology is awesome
@miafillene4396
@miafillene4396 Жыл бұрын
@@lanequick7451 what is amazing is we went from muzzle loading balls of solid iron, to precision guided munitions, within 100 years.
@steelwitness
@steelwitness Жыл бұрын
My grandfather served in WW2 and he always told me he'd rather go back to the Pacific front again before he'd fight in something like the Civil War. He always said "I never had to stand in a line and and watch a cannon lay fire on on my comrads. There were a lot of times I felt helpless but I don't think anything would make me feel more helpless than that." I think it was a way that he coped with his service because he always talked about the different kinds of wars he wouldn't want to fight in and would rather do his service all over again
@simongee8928
@simongee8928 Жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that there was a counterweight which automatically raised the gun into battery when a brake / lock was released rather than having to 'pump' it up into battery.
@crownhillfort2061
@crownhillfort2061 Жыл бұрын
There is a 5.5 ton counterweight at the front of the Gun, the two people on the wooden bars get the system to its tipping point where gravity takes over
@RennieAsh
@RennieAsh Жыл бұрын
I guess the goal is that it stays down easier once the recoil puts it there. Otherwise if you miss the brake then it's stuck up in the danger zone and you have to "pump it down"
@jamesbudd9900
@jamesbudd9900 Жыл бұрын
Just think someone thought that whole thing up with no computer to help. Amazing stuff
@Kinsanth_
@Kinsanth_ Жыл бұрын
Yeah, a pivoting gun, thats really remarkable indeed
@airmanfpv964
@airmanfpv964 Жыл бұрын
@@Kinsanth_ my little ponie pfp, opinion discarded.
@Kinsanth_
@Kinsanth_ Жыл бұрын
@@airmanfpv964 another person, which doesnt like the taste of other people. You really should learn to at least tolerate others, when you are incapable of accepting them, that would show mininal respect to others. And your lashing out on others is a sign, that you just want others to feel more bad than yourself. How about working out your own issues instead of bothering others? That would really help out in the long run
@loganwalker8537
@loganwalker8537 Жыл бұрын
@@Kinsanth_ well, i cant say much can i, not only is my pfp anime but its yuri and genshin impact yuri Though i did get bored of the game
@TheOnlyReefShark
@TheOnlyReefShark Жыл бұрын
Average KZfaq argument
@johnowens4205
@johnowens4205 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe how many people did not comprehend what was said during the video 😳🙃🙄
@Triggernlfrl
@Triggernlfrl Жыл бұрын
Not every one can understand a foreign language...
@wizardapprenticeIV
@wizardapprenticeIV Жыл бұрын
@@Triggernlfrl but they know it well enough to comment in it?
@urmum3773
@urmum3773 Жыл бұрын
@@Triggernlfrl He says, in English
@freagle123
@freagle123 Жыл бұрын
I was watching this video and then my neighbour came and we watched it together. He said that this video changed his life and touched his heart. I then went and rented a projector in a big field and all my villagers watched it and it changed their lives too. We all are so grateful. Thank You for this video….
@avgastas1515
@avgastas1515 Жыл бұрын
What?
@lennykump8396
@lennykump8396 Жыл бұрын
I wanted to know what this was for years and now KZfaq magically supplies the answer. Amazing.
@nothotdog1488
@nothotdog1488 Жыл бұрын
I remember going here as a kid and walking through the tunnels, struggling with an Enfield rifle. Such a beautiful place to visit, hopefully I'll get down there again this year.
@desirayelawrence9676
@desirayelawrence9676 Жыл бұрын
This was absolutely amazing I'd love to have seen it fire an actual projectile. As a former soldier nothing warms the heart more than seeing an old gun like this from the war still being able to fire an actual projectile. Is there ANY way I could come down to the fort and we can fire an actual projectile out of this beauty?
@crownhillfort2061
@crownhillfort2061 Жыл бұрын
We would love to see the Gun fire a projectile but given its location in the middle of a city that will never happen
@desirayelawrence9676
@desirayelawrence9676 Жыл бұрын
@@crownhillfort2061 oh my yea I thought the Fort was further away from any cities my bad! Still an amazing sight to witness such an amazing piece of engineering and craftsmanship
@forgetfulpriestiv14
@forgetfulpriestiv14 Жыл бұрын
The thing I hate about the modern world, is that we never do the awesome things we would all love to see. I know all of us would like to see that gun fire a real non exploding projectile. I always get bummed out with these neutered displays
@dogsnads5634
@dogsnads5634 Жыл бұрын
To be fair it is in the middle of a city...firing a projectile in any direction will kill a lot of people...
@loganwalker8537
@loganwalker8537 Жыл бұрын
@@dogsnads5634 isnt that a naval gun? Wouldnt it be facing the ocean?
@jerrywatt6813
@jerrywatt6813 Жыл бұрын
@@loganwalker8537 yes I say let one fly blody hell life just isn't fun anymore all you'll do is kill some fish ha ha !
@battalion151R
@battalion151R Жыл бұрын
A big cork with a string attached would work. 🤭
@forgetfulpriestiv14
@forgetfulpriestiv14 Жыл бұрын
@@dogsnads5634 this is a navel gun........ That shoots at ships....... In the ocean........
@justforever96
@justforever96 Жыл бұрын
Obviously 99% of the people watching this have no idea what was involved with loading and firing heavy artillery back in the old days. Yes, it took work. No, you could not fire very fast. They expected that and felt it was worth it for the huge damage done on each shot and the long range. The 11 inch guns on the USS Monitor took like 15 minutes to load. A typical naval gun on a normal mount recoiled on its carriage and had to be hauled back into firing position with block and tackle every time you fired it. This was actually easier.
@partyrobbins4690
@partyrobbins4690 Жыл бұрын
We definitely have it easier with the M109 paladin.
@paulkelly660
@paulkelly660 Жыл бұрын
Was based in Crownhill Fort early 70s, fantastic Fort ❤️🇬🇧
@bennock1017
@bennock1017 Жыл бұрын
Never ceases to amaze me, these groups, all dedicated, preserving and demonstrating great bits of kit, then they go and find the least able in their group to do the camera work.
@briananthony4044
@briananthony4044 Жыл бұрын
Cover your ears! psst lol. The 110 pounder Armstrong breech loading rifled gun. Unfortunately a failure. The shell was put in, then gunpowder in bags, the sliding wedge was closed against the breech, the screw was turned to hold it in place, the gun was fired, the gases leaked back past the beech choking the gunners, then after a few firings the breech sliding block fractured and blew out of the gun killing some more crew. So the British navy went back to the muzzle loading rifled gun. Today many guns use the sliding wedge type beech, BUT the powder is in brass (or is it bronze) casings, when the power ignites, the casing expands against the side of the barrel sealing it. Often seen in field howitzers.
@LordEvan5
@LordEvan5 Жыл бұрын
That’s pretty cool I can’t imagine there are that many disappearing mounts left in the world
@con.troller4183
@con.troller4183 Жыл бұрын
There's actually dozens of them. We just keep losing sight of them.
@jabberwocky1707
@jabberwocky1707 Жыл бұрын
@@con.troller4183 You mean ..... they keep disappearing? 🙊
@con.troller4183
@con.troller4183 Жыл бұрын
@@jabberwocky1707 ba-DUM... pish!
@matthewgauthier7251
@matthewgauthier7251 Жыл бұрын
Yeah suspect it was tad louder in service. Is that one of those projectiles that the target could see coming. Can't imagine.
@grisslebear
@grisslebear Жыл бұрын
The firing is AWESOME at ¼ speed.
@francispalm7245
@francispalm7245 Жыл бұрын
"A disappearing gun, a gun mounted on a disappearing carriage, is an obsolete type of artillery which enabled a gun to hide from direct fire and observation. The overwhelming majority of carriage designs enabled the gun to rotate backwards and down behind a parapet, or into a pit protected by a wall, after it was fired" - Wikipedia
@harrysweeten9417
@harrysweeten9417 Жыл бұрын
There is a system of three forts along the Delaware River that had these guns, Fort Mott in New Jersey, Fort Delaware which is on a island in the river and Delaware city in Delaware, I think any ships trying to get up the river would have been in for a bad time.
@KirkHermary
@KirkHermary Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling the enemy is going to know something is up when the gun slowly creeps up. "Oi!!! Look over there, a gun a popping up!"
@wizardapprenticeIV
@wizardapprenticeIV Жыл бұрын
I imagine a full Royal Artillery crew would bring it into position a damn sight faster, Also by the looks of it this may be black powder, so it would cause a rather large cloud of smoke that would conceal the gun, I saw one comment saying it can manage around 1 shot per minute, So I doubt the smoke would clear that quickly, especially after a few shots. Also the enemy assaulting the fort would have more things to worry about, plus the Fort is uphill of any assaulting army, so you probably wouldn't get that good of a look at the thing when in the firing position.
@KirkHermary
@KirkHermary Жыл бұрын
@god is dead I don't know much about this place. However near Victoria, BC, Canada(or if a person knows CFB Esquimalt), there's an old British defensive post. It's a historic site know, Fort Rodd Hill. I toured around there and there are several spots similar to this pit. Perhaps that fort had similar guns to the one shown in this video. 🤔
@john1182
@john1182 Жыл бұрын
amazing it looks very similar to our guns at port fairy Victoria Australia which were ever only fired once at anger. and that was at a pub. i dont know the full story but it was late 1800's and warrnambool was having training / competition for there gun crews firing out to sea, port fairy afterward when to the kirkstall pub? and basically got kicked out, they were a little drunk and annoyed and went back to their guns and loaded a shot and fired it towards the pub they were kicked out of. from what i was told the shot landed a few hundred yards short of the pub. (it was a several km shot). im so glad im a port fairy local :)
@jonathantan2469
@jonathantan2469 Жыл бұрын
There are other disappearing guns at Queenscliffe & Fort Nepean, on both ends of the capes around Port Phillip Bay. I'm not sure if the gun itself is still at Fort Nepean, but the emplacement is certainly there.
@msmeyersmd8
@msmeyersmd8 Жыл бұрын
😂
@johnv341
@johnv341 8 ай бұрын
The Port Fairy guns are 80 pr Armstrong muzzle loaders. The one in the video appears to be a 110 pr breech loader, also Armstrong.
@davidmcnulty4960
@davidmcnulty4960 Жыл бұрын
I loved it it was wonderful I never seen nothing like it I have no words
@jvon3885
@jvon3885 Жыл бұрын
You actually had 16 words....just sayin....
@whateverprecisely
@whateverprecisely Жыл бұрын
Not having the disappearing gun disappear is unsatisfactory but still cool tech and video!
@kenc9236
@kenc9236 Жыл бұрын
Excellent display old boy.
@PaulP999
@PaulP999 Жыл бұрын
According to the late great weapons author Ian Hogg the man in charge of coastal guns around the US shores used his position to order loads of disappearing gun mounts because they were of a design he had shares in, so making money over the best interest of his country. He also had a personal dislike of Lewis of "Lewis Gun" fame and had American troops going to the Western front in WW1 denied their machine guns for a notably poor French weapon, until he was removed and their Lewis Guns were returned. What a patriot!
@shipsofthenorth
@shipsofthenorth Жыл бұрын
Fort DeRussy in Waikiki, Hawaii had 14" Naval guns, not disappearing, and in a much larger and deeper emplacements. After the attack on Pearl Harbor they were test fired and ended up blowing out many windows at neighboring hotels and businesses. They were never fired again and removed in 1950. Wish they had kept one for historical purposes.
@dirkaminimo4836
@dirkaminimo4836 Жыл бұрын
I mean, just a great video!! Never seen this, always wanted too. Thank you soooo much!
@leedugan4127
@leedugan4127 Жыл бұрын
This kind of advantage could still be useful in many modern conflicts
@Yawyna124
@Yawyna124 Жыл бұрын
The reason they fell out of fashion is largely due to planes and improvements in naval gunnery fire rate.
@carmium
@carmium Жыл бұрын
Fort Rodd Hill near Victoria BC had three disappearing mount guns, intended to guard the roughly 20-mile wide Strait of Juan de Fuca from unwanted intrusions. They were still in place in WW2, due to a lack or replacements. Unfortunately, none are left for display in what is now a park.
@noahholliday9761
@noahholliday9761 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this gun firing in a semi realistic scenario, instead I get to see the home guard firing blanks that cause zero recoil or a "hidden gun".
@dlo7573
@dlo7573 Жыл бұрын
Fired like a champ. Still got it. Really cool.
@jamiewashere
@jamiewashere Жыл бұрын
Last of the summer wine crew fires a huge gun!
@nerolzaphobia
@nerolzaphobia Жыл бұрын
was looking forward watching the reload process
@Evergreen1400
@Evergreen1400 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see the directors of the Blair witch project still making movies
@rogersmith8339
@rogersmith8339 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic to see the real thing - we have lots of these emplacements round here, but no guns.
@markgoddard2560
@markgoddard2560 Жыл бұрын
Crowd forms to watch flatulent gun relieve itself and listen to people talk about what is not going to happen. It’s a health and safety orgasm to be proud of.
@vectorbrony3473
@vectorbrony3473 Жыл бұрын
Oh hey they got it working. I came down here with the Palmerston Artillery volunteers in 2013 but sadly it was very stiff and no matter what we tried it was near impossible to move. I think we came to the conclussion the paint on the gun had fouled the gear teeth.
@MartyInLa
@MartyInLa Жыл бұрын
I've seen old film of these, and we used to some of these, albeit bigger, at Fort McArthur in California. But, I had no idea there was one of these that was still operational.
@muddrudder2656
@muddrudder2656 Жыл бұрын
Do they still have an ordinance for it? Would love a live fire demonstration of the range it has
@dogsnads5634
@dogsnads5634 Жыл бұрын
It's in the middle of the city of Plymouth...
@Pineapple-co6fe
@Pineapple-co6fe Жыл бұрын
@@dogsnads5634 so?
@RandomThingPosted
@RandomThingPosted Жыл бұрын
@@Pineapple-co6fe sooo, what goes up must come down
@Pineapple-co6fe
@Pineapple-co6fe Жыл бұрын
@@RandomThingPosted exactly
@user-vc8lu9eb1l
@user-vc8lu9eb1l Жыл бұрын
Yup,they just posted it on top of comment chain
@pesky-media
@pesky-media Жыл бұрын
Ole Jerry wouldn’t get out of the firing zone so they had to delay…bless his heart - he kept climbing onto the gun lol
@HomesteadViewin
@HomesteadViewin Жыл бұрын
My God, Its Cpl. Jones from Dads Army!!!
@rosemarienecesito4059
@rosemarienecesito4059 Жыл бұрын
From were i live an old fort have this type of guns its been used in ww2 its much bigger and longer barrel, some people call it *peek a boo* gun
@Jimdixon1953
@Jimdixon1953 Жыл бұрын
The faint sound of birdsong before the gun fired felt quite poignant
@boomstick4054
@boomstick4054 Жыл бұрын
Disappearing Gun: simple cannon of yesteryear.
@Banana-eg1dr
@Banana-eg1dr Жыл бұрын
This type of cannon earn the nickname “Crawling Tiger” in my local language.
@grigorirasputin5020
@grigorirasputin5020 3 жыл бұрын
Where exactly is this place? Country? State? Continent?
@curlybrownliz
@curlybrownliz 3 жыл бұрын
This is Crownhill Fort, Plymouth, UK.
@grigorirasputin5020
@grigorirasputin5020 3 жыл бұрын
@@curlybrownliz Thank You! Quite interesting!
@garethblake544
@garethblake544 Жыл бұрын
Crown Hill Fort is located at Plymouth which is in Devon UK.
@chadachwilliam5515
@chadachwilliam5515 Жыл бұрын
The FDC must have a easy job of giving data for targets. If it never moves they probably just have a bunch of pre arranged coordinate’s.
@romanelumba3938
@romanelumba3938 Жыл бұрын
One 12 inch Naval Disappearing Gun can be found in Battery Crocket Corregidor, Philippines.
@johnmartin6178
@johnmartin6178 Жыл бұрын
I had a toy version of this gun concept back in the early 50's.
@outlawflyer7868
@outlawflyer7868 Жыл бұрын
NOVA, he said it wasn't gonna go down because they weren't firing a projectile. Pay attention. Now, I like how he went up the first time and said this was the most dangerous place because he could be shot at yet it took him a long damn time to hook up whatever he needed to hook up. What makes no sense is why didny they just put armor where the guy needed to stand.
@griffinmckenzie7203
@griffinmckenzie7203 Жыл бұрын
You realize this man is old, right?
@budisutanto5987
@budisutanto5987 Жыл бұрын
the armor need to be the same level as the wall, then what's the point? Notice the gun at 'disappear' stage. Portable shield 🛡️ makes more sense. At 'appear' stage, in battle, probably he do it real quick while crotching or using long stick
@briananthony4044
@briananthony4044 Жыл бұрын
He was puting in the fuse through the priming hole into the powder in the gun I think. That would be done when the gun was in the lowered position I would think in a war situation.
@Administrator_O-5
@Administrator_O-5 Жыл бұрын
"Squirrel!!! It's heading straight for us!!!"
@umomiekiller
@umomiekiller Жыл бұрын
Considering all the moving part that thing didn't budge when it was shot!
@beaujeste1
@beaujeste1 Ай бұрын
‘Well done Corporal Jones!’
@streetcop157
@streetcop157 Жыл бұрын
Is the cargo shorts and dad shirt period correct
@stopmotionharry8989
@stopmotionharry8989 Жыл бұрын
I saw these at Fort Scratchley, in Australia
@AFpaleoCon
@AFpaleoCon Жыл бұрын
Who else thought the recoil would make it sink back down into the original position?
@rolandet
@rolandet Жыл бұрын
Title depicted firing of the gun at 4:35
@austinfleck8664
@austinfleck8664 Жыл бұрын
That laugh at 0:20 though 🤣🤣🤣
@johndavid6956
@johndavid6956 Жыл бұрын
I guarantee this video does no justice at all on how loud this actually would have been in person. I bet it was deafening!!
@akhosha2
@akhosha2 Жыл бұрын
The only thing that disappeared was my time
@Drnken229
@Drnken229 Жыл бұрын
By the time the cannon is up, the target has moved a couple kilometer
@u.s.militia7682
@u.s.militia7682 Жыл бұрын
Someone should’ve prematurely yelled out FIRE! 😂😂😂
@goodbarbenie5477
@goodbarbenie5477 Жыл бұрын
As them Yanks say, fire in the hole... Hahaa
@johnshoosmith
@johnshoosmith Жыл бұрын
This is very similar to the canons at Fort Casey Washington, USA.
@yuanmingtan6501
@yuanmingtan6501 4 жыл бұрын
Armstrong 40pdr breech-loading gun
@curlybrownliz
@curlybrownliz 3 жыл бұрын
Close! With a 7" bore this one would fire 110lb shells
@briananthony4044
@briananthony4044 Жыл бұрын
That was the small field gun, this is the 110 pounder naval gun. It turned out to be a failure.
@TheDillon1987
@TheDillon1987 Жыл бұрын
Lad should be shown how to wear a beret at the start 😳
@bensonhedges479
@bensonhedges479 Жыл бұрын
As a Mclean, I approve of firing upon any McDonald’s
@blackterminal
@blackterminal Жыл бұрын
Beautiful device. Seems it would have a very slow reload time.
@haywoodyoudome
@haywoodyoudome Жыл бұрын
It would be much faster with a crew younger that 90.
@battalion151R
@battalion151R Жыл бұрын
With an actual projectile, this would be a great day at the range.
@wilsonh6844
@wilsonh6844 Жыл бұрын
Lots of work, little bang
@cameronmccreary4758
@cameronmccreary4758 Жыл бұрын
If they used enough powder and a live round it probably would disappear!
@deanhankio6304
@deanhankio6304 Жыл бұрын
Old guys are working. Youngsters are filming. welcome to the new century
@mariosebastiani3214
@mariosebastiani3214 Жыл бұрын
May I ask what the "two-six" exclamation stands for when hauling a gun? I think it has to do with smoothbore guns of the age of sails, but I can't find any info...
@georgeallen7101
@georgeallen7101 Жыл бұрын
A navy hauling isum. Instead of saying the timing as “two three !“ , which is what the army did . The Royal Navy thought they were twice as good, so they said “two six!”……….,
@btbplanevids
@btbplanevids Жыл бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_six_heave
@mariosebastiani3214
@mariosebastiani3214 Жыл бұрын
@@btbplanevids Thanks for the reference!
@user-ro3wl6vj6g
@user-ro3wl6vj6g Жыл бұрын
Two and six were members of a numbered gun crew,so they said two six to pull the gun forward after loading in a wooden sailing ship.then it became the norm for any thing in the Royal navy that required muscle
@Logarinq
@Logarinq Жыл бұрын
Witam. Wooo ładnie wystrzeliło. Jeden z fajniejszych filmów amatorskich jakie widziałem. Pozdrawiam.
@TheEDFLegacy
@TheEDFLegacy Жыл бұрын
Neat design! Do you know of any such designs ever accidentally fired before being put in the raised position? I can imagine that would have been a very... unpleasant experience for the gun crews.
@JoshuaLaFond
@JoshuaLaFond Жыл бұрын
Fifty houses are leveled. "Johnny?! Whut thu?!" "Oops, Pop. I dropped me bowling ball in there this morning. I meant to tell you. Really I did..."
@colvinator1611
@colvinator1611 Жыл бұрын
Good video thanks a lot. May I suggest an intro to advise people of gun type, location etc ?
@crownhillfort2061
@crownhillfort2061 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion, Landmark has a digital content manager and I am sure she can work her magic on this video
@SotEnjoyer113
@SotEnjoyer113 Жыл бұрын
Well the gun type is in the description and if I had to guess it’s at crow hill fort, hence the uploaded name
@kutter_ttl6786
@kutter_ttl6786 Жыл бұрын
From the main title and description we can determine the following: Gun Type: Moncrieff Disappearing Gun Location: Crownhill Fort (Plymoth). The gun itself is a replica as all Moncrieff guns were dismantled in the early 1900s. It's a 7-in gun, and the original gun had a weight of 7-tons.
@MrRedeyedJedi
@MrRedeyedJedi Жыл бұрын
It's such a shame these forts in this city have been allowed to fall into ruin, with people using drugs, littering and lighting fires from plastic in the bunker areas. It would have been a good cash generator for tourism and great history. I loved exploring crownhill fort back in the day.
@crownhillfort2061
@crownhillfort2061 Жыл бұрын
Without purpose these Forts are vulnerable to vandalism and decay. Fortunately Crownhill is a self-sustaining entity that has a viable future
@MrRedeyedJedi
@MrRedeyedJedi Жыл бұрын
@@crownhillfort2061 I hope so. It is a disgrace what is happening to this one great nation.
@bad74maverick1
@bad74maverick1 Жыл бұрын
When he said they'll need volunteers to bring it back down I couldn't have raised my hand fast enough! Like that nerd in homeroom who sat up front! "Oh Oh Oh pick me pick me!!!"
@Jesuses_evil_twin
@Jesuses_evil_twin Жыл бұрын
Intriguing weapon system
@coltonendicott
@coltonendicott Жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff. I'd like to go see all those forts one of these days.
@backupintheday9710
@backupintheday9710 Жыл бұрын
I cant imagine that it was very accurate to be honest.
@zeitgeist909
@zeitgeist909 Жыл бұрын
This is hilarious. File under Monty Pythonesque. The entire point of this gun was that it would be fast and nimble, firing on the enemy and then disappearing before counter-battery could return fire. The recoil of the gun actuated the 'hiding' mechanism that retracted the gun vertically into it's hidy-hole. The pace at which it would have been fired in WW2 in contrast to the video - I am sure was quite different. Good bloody show tho lads - hopefully you can now get back to the barracks canteen for tea and biscuits!!
@Yawyna124
@Yawyna124 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, these guns largely fell out of fashion in WWI with the invention of aerial warfare and with improvements to naval gunnery. The only time at which they were used in WWII afaik was in the Philippines in the old and outdated batteries.
@franciscoosuna259
@franciscoosuna259 Жыл бұрын
this has me puzzled. It is called a disappearing gun. But, in what sense? Disappear from sight? Disappear from threats of incoming projectiles? IF CONCEAL FROM SIGHT: that means the large guns were aimed in the same fashion as a hand gun via sights. i.e no gun battles occurred at night? Ship guns were not aimed by spotters nor coordinates? IF CONCEAL FROM THREAT: the barrier wall seems too shallow. The battleship guns seem to typically fire at about a 30 degree angle. Which means that the projectile at the target is falling at about a 45 degree angle. That barrier wall seems too shallow to help the gun and crew to disappear from danger. Am I missing something?
@billp.8489
@billp.8489 Жыл бұрын
Against the modern guns it wouldn't last but this was from 1880's. Most naval or land guns, of that time, would take a while to reduce that gun and it would be hard to target the area until it was up to fire. And the black powder smoke would also help hide it. I am not sure when the range finders came out.
@griffinmckenzie7203
@griffinmckenzie7203 Жыл бұрын
You're missing the fact they're shooting nothing but powder and thus not causing any recoil which would drive the gun back down, hence "disappearing".
@briananthony4044
@briananthony4044 Жыл бұрын
Being in a fort up on a hill or cliff, the gun would have to be raised up to fire down on the enemy ship passing by. All loading and setting up can be done in relative safety, minimising exposure of the gun crew.
@Xandros999
@Xandros999 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't announce "gun firing" before I had cleared the yellow bits.
@Southerly93
@Southerly93 Жыл бұрын
I wish there was a replica for the battery at ft Morgan Alabama
@jaakkopontinen
@jaakkopontinen Жыл бұрын
I get it, it makes the ones on the other end disappear.
@petergrhill
@petergrhill Жыл бұрын
My 1.25 in bore makes more noise, and that is with 1.oz powder charge.
@Sulucnumoh420
@Sulucnumoh420 Жыл бұрын
My surname is Moncrief. This was cool
@Goofabazooka
@Goofabazooka Жыл бұрын
Recedes back into giant holster gun*
@riccardorinaldo7934
@riccardorinaldo7934 Жыл бұрын
And you didn’t film the part where they pulled it down? Interesting
@gabesbrother
@gabesbrother Жыл бұрын
It makes the target disappear. But it doesn't
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