First Damascus, Hand Forged!

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Black Beard Projects

Black Beard Projects

5 жыл бұрын

My first experience with damascus steel. Forged by hand from k720 (O2) and 15n20 tool steel.
This project started out very easily prepearing the billet, but as soon as I started hammering on it I realized it was going to be a real challenge. Tool steel is very hard to move! Specially when it's as thick as the billet I made.
After setting the weld I decided to split the stock in half so I would have had a better chance to heat it all up properly and possibly weld it for good by hand.
Unfortunatly I had mixed result with making it forge weld, not really sure about the reason why, maybe low heat, cold forging (even though I tried to never forged under orange) or the fact that I started to beat on the sides too early. Anyway, while forging I was able to spot a crack in one side and some cold spots on the top and bottom of the steel. To get rid of both I ended up grinding a lot of material away and that's made the final product much shorter and thinner than I anticipated.
I even had to leave a hairline fracture on the spine because the material was getting too small.
To prevent the crack from splitting open in the hardening process I tried to use some refractory cement (just like I do to develop hamons) this worked pretty well and I ended up with an usable piece of steel
Overall very happy with the result since it's my very fisrt attempt.
Index of operation and materials:
0:25 Cutting steel with metal cutting band saw
1:00 Grinding scales off on 2x72 (holding pieces with magnet)
2:00 Stacking the billet alternating 15n20 and k720 and cleaning everything with acetone
2:37 Stick welding the billet (rebar handle added off camera)
3:16 Borax used as fluck between each heat
3:45 Setting the weld
4:44 Grinding off stick welds
4:56 Cutting billed in two pieces
6:24 Isolating tang material
7:16 Grinding to shape
7:47 Test etch with ferric chloride
8:19 Steel wire to help cement stick
8:25 Refractory cement
9:00 Hardened in my homemade heat treating oven. 810°C for 30 min and quenching in oil
9:31 Tempering in toster oven at 200°C for 2.5hr
10:02 Cleaning up on the belt grinder and sanding by hand up to 600 grit
10:50 degreasing with acetone
10:53 final etch in ferric chloride
Off camera I sanded the 15n20 parts with 1200 grit sandpaper to make it shine.
Thanks a lot for watching, I hope you liked the video!
Suggestions and comments are welcome.
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@BlackBeardProjects
@BlackBeardProjects 5 жыл бұрын
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@BestExperiments
@BestExperiments 5 жыл бұрын
*amazing*
@user-lh4bm1po7f
@user-lh4bm1po7f 5 жыл бұрын
Канал отличный. Для начала не плохо, больше слоев и рисунок станет более интересным. Так же можно попробывать сделать Булат.
@macbomb
@macbomb 5 жыл бұрын
I like your videos that is not wootz steel it is just pattern welded steel.
@amysmith4461
@amysmith4461 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for Your KZfaq videos.
@notsane6967
@notsane6967 5 жыл бұрын
I like the shape of the knife, it's really well done. If you want some pointers on doing this again go have a look at a guy shurap here on KZfaq, he does magnificent work.
@dennisobrien3618
@dennisobrien3618 5 жыл бұрын
Good job. Having made a patter-welded blade by hand hammering myself, I appreciate the effort it takes. My only tip would be to use an odd number of layers, so both sides of the blade appear similar. It also allows for a homogenous edge with a low layer count. Again, bravo.
@StuffUCanMake
@StuffUCanMake 5 жыл бұрын
Even though I don't think i will make one, I like watching people making these blades.
@AndyAshes
@AndyAshes 5 жыл бұрын
same
@kalleteus7329
@kalleteus7329 5 жыл бұрын
Its like watching some pro tutorial
@danilogabriel6628
@danilogabriel6628 4 жыл бұрын
Yes why we do that
@julieanddavidmyers6641
@julieanddavidmyers6641 3 ай бұрын
As a retired shop teacher...great use of safety! I just got some blanks for tool steel for my birthday. I'm excited to use your process to try out my first Damascus blank. I was most interested in seeing the coal forge do the heating for the welds.
@basilraidt5575
@basilraidt5575 5 жыл бұрын
I love watching first time Damascus videos. There are some tips I wanted to give if you don't already have a bunch of them. Firstly, I noticed the delam and cold shunts, which is why you had to do so much grinding to get them out. Watch your temperature control. You want the entire peice to be a bright yellow, almost white before you start to try to set your welds. I only say that because the camera showed varying colors on your material as you brought it out for the forge weld. Damascus patterns run along the end and sides of the material. That would be where you want your blade to stem from. It's not required to fold or to restack for a Damascus pattern to show through, but at least hammer the sides of the billet into the flat of the blade and leave the top and bottom of the billet as your edge and spine. This will make for a more drastic pattern after the etch. I was curious about why you decided to make a hamon on the blade before you ground down to around 600 grit. The hamon is a surface finish, but you ground that off after your heat treat. I'm not criticizing your work. You did an amazing job, especially since it was all done by hand. Kudos to you, sir.
@jae5446
@jae5446 4 жыл бұрын
Great comments!! Very helpful, thank you
@marknickerson3645
@marknickerson3645 5 жыл бұрын
My grandfather,who was a blacksmith in the 30's told me the secret with forge welding is to give yourself ten seconds of hammering, then back in the heat. I've followed his advice, and have made 400 plus layer Damascus without all the sanding and acetone cleaning very successfully, a good clean with the wire brush is really all you need. Your steel gets cold, your screwed and your gonna have delamination. Love your channel
@antoniolanza7069
@antoniolanza7069 Ай бұрын
Ok😊
@sergeyshstk6794
@sergeyshstk6794 5 жыл бұрын
As we say in Russia - first pancake lumpy, you will make it much better next time!
@sergeyshstk6794
@sergeyshstk6794 5 жыл бұрын
@TheBlackDiamond//MTBD Yep)
@DrBF3000
@DrBF3000 5 жыл бұрын
Панкейки ихние ближе к нашим оладьям. Не понимаю почему официальный перевод именно блины.
@V4p3rcl0ud
@V4p3rcl0ud 5 жыл бұрын
@@DrBF3000 yeah, totally, kdgfsysdbdjsixbcvdyauebcbxj back at ya!
@_yourbigdaddy
@_yourbigdaddy 4 жыл бұрын
@@V4p3rcl0ud yeah u right , because nafztzoalwozy. Ksizgzywbelzvscbs koa sgsj smsosv shs . M i right dude ?
@thomas.thomas
@thomas.thomas 4 жыл бұрын
@@DrBF3000 I don't know why but is there a better alternative?
@griffithshandmade-knives
@griffithshandmade-knives 5 жыл бұрын
I get a real kick out of seeing how many people now subscribe to your channel, you’ve done so well, your consistency has paid off...well done, such an amazing channel 👍
@yassineguizani3609
@yassineguizani3609 5 жыл бұрын
An awesome work ! It look so strong and sharp ! Can't wait to see the final result !
@stevesyncox9893
@stevesyncox9893 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff man, I soak the stack in diesel right before first heat, the fuel burns off any oxygen before the first borax can get in. Heat your borax to remove the moisture, you can bake it in the oven... then keep it sealed. Anhydrous borax is ideal, 1/3 each, if you like of powdered iron, boric acid and anhydrous borax seems to work better than out of the box... you will love a press... temp is everything.
@hollywafflez4722
@hollywafflez4722 4 жыл бұрын
2:08 Me: I'll just stick it in a vice and it's ready for welding. Him: more vices...
@drstrangefart
@drstrangefart 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the club! I just polished the bevel on the kiridashi I made out of my first damascus billet. It's my EDC blade. I've done 3 cable damascus billets since then and I'm working on a larger stacked billet now.
@jamielee8991
@jamielee8991 5 жыл бұрын
You make it look so easy and with a great looking tool at the end
@justinwilsoncustoms6520
@justinwilsoncustoms6520 5 жыл бұрын
Love how that turned out, looks sweet !
@Bob_Mitch
@Bob_Mitch 5 жыл бұрын
We want more of this ! Keep going on !
@seanleith5312
@seanleith5312 3 жыл бұрын
Tell please, what the hell is Damascus?
@eduardocoelho3429
@eduardocoelho3429 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the first apricot. I still haven't had the courage to do this. It was beautiful. Eduardo from Brazil
@Est-bn3yf
@Est-bn3yf 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, I really enjoy your videos.
@TSNchannel
@TSNchannel 5 жыл бұрын
Woww damascus steel is other level. Good job. Congratulations
@DavidBaggaleySilversmiths
@DavidBaggaleySilversmiths 5 жыл бұрын
Love seeing damascus been made I need to try something similar with copper and sterling silver
@TheFacedGAM
@TheFacedGAM 5 жыл бұрын
Not bad at all for your first effort with damascus, I'm sure you learned from it as we all do when we experiment. Good job!
@forzapaq
@forzapaq 5 жыл бұрын
Truly inspirational.... one day I'll get around to trying this. Your forearm must have ached after hammering that billet flat! Thank you for another great video.
@sronnau99
@sronnau99 2 жыл бұрын
Cool idea with the wire and mud and the straightening jig.
@RaulPerez-yi4el
@RaulPerez-yi4el 3 жыл бұрын
To see how Damascus steel is worked, Toledo, Spain the best steel that forged an empire ever equaled.
@TristanDare
@TristanDare 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job man! You'll get addicted to it fast!
@jorge0luiz
@jorge0luiz 4 жыл бұрын
It's so beautiful, congrats :) I want To see a bigger kitchen knife from Damascus. You are very talented.
@Tristan-mc4wm
@Tristan-mc4wm 5 жыл бұрын
Omg yes thank you I was soooo bored. You saved my life!
@fixit4182
@fixit4182 5 жыл бұрын
Just discovered this channel and I love it. Subscribed
@beardedbeastmetalmilitia4604
@beardedbeastmetalmilitia4604 3 жыл бұрын
Just got some sweet old files and can't wait to get home and get forging!
@javierdiaz17
@javierdiaz17 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent work 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@matthewhegstrom8478
@matthewhegstrom8478 4 жыл бұрын
It’s great to see this done by hand and not with a power hammer. It’s on my list of things to do, I don’t have $8,000.00 to spend on a power hammer.
@captainkenno
@captainkenno 5 жыл бұрын
Good job! I am learning to make my pattern welded steel by hand as well . In my opinion after bringing the stack to forge welding heat try using a vise for first press. I find it very helpful in avoiding the edge of the stack not fusing. Grinding out the open bits is a ballache lol. Oh and more flux! Thanks for sharing!
@ManuManu-ht3ht
@ManuManu-ht3ht 5 жыл бұрын
Finalmente il damasco! Bravo black! Dopo tutti i progetti portati su questo canale si sentiva la mancanza del RE degli acciai! Fanne ancora! La lavorazione del damasco da vedere e bellissima! Damascus is a drug!🔥🔥🔥🔥👏👏👏👏👏🔨🔨🔨🗡🗡🗡🗡🗡🗡🗡
@fearthespear4242
@fearthespear4242 5 жыл бұрын
?
@Capitan_Papen1918
@Capitan_Papen1918 5 жыл бұрын
Magari è una stronzata, ma il Damasco non è blu?
@ManuManu-ht3ht
@ManuManu-ht3ht 5 жыл бұрын
L'acciaio damasco consiste nel mettere strati di acciaio diversi che poi vengono saldati per mezzo del calore e dei colpi di martello. Si legano assieme acciai teneri con acciai molto duri ... questo fa sì che una volta finito l'acciaio risultante sia elastico e con un filo estremamente tagliente. Le lame possono essere rese blu se una volta temprate si punta una fiamma ossidrica sulla lama per alcuni secondi... però questo compromette un pò la tempra.
@ManuManu-ht3ht
@ManuManu-ht3ht 5 жыл бұрын
I don't undestand... write italian or english please.
@rafaturtlemanv2282
@rafaturtlemanv2282 5 жыл бұрын
Bella Raga sono italiano
@ifell3
@ifell3 5 жыл бұрын
Its the hand hammering that impressed me!!!!!!
@mr.e0311
@mr.e0311 5 жыл бұрын
Love it!!! Not another selfie obsessed content creator.
@sambaggins2798
@sambaggins2798 4 жыл бұрын
Great knife. Love the use of claying to make a hamon.
@ManCrafting
@ManCrafting 5 жыл бұрын
That was bad ass. Hand forged damascus. Can't wait to see you finish up that knife.
@gmor54ars
@gmor54ars 5 жыл бұрын
That is not Damascus at all
@RomanKieling
@RomanKieling 3 жыл бұрын
Not bad for first time. Looks interesting. Keep on forging. Happy new year. Greetings from Germany. 👍👍👍
@mikedrop4421
@mikedrop4421 5 жыл бұрын
Way to keep challenging yourself. Pattern welding by hand is no joke. Maybe you should build a press or power hammer and make it a series. Then you'll save tons of anvil time making billets.
@joyrampino8811
@joyrampino8811 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but your videos are oddly satisfying lol
@stasmasloff13
@stasmasloff13 3 жыл бұрын
Очень аккуратная работа..Мне нравится..Отличный нож получился
@eriktheginger99
@eriktheginger99 5 жыл бұрын
I applaud you, the biggest problems I see with Damascus forge welding it when people don’t clean everything properly😄
@yah_boy_fat_gabe8094
@yah_boy_fat_gabe8094 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I just tried to weld today for a damascus knife and jesus is it hard
@kitsnap1228
@kitsnap1228 4 жыл бұрын
+1 For the hammon method, never have seen it done that way.
@andysse3929
@andysse3929 5 жыл бұрын
The blade turned out good for a first attempt! :) Keep it up.
@faridbabayev9092
@faridbabayev9092 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing content!
@misdados17483
@misdados17483 5 жыл бұрын
Proyecto fantastico que abre muchas posibilidades, me encanta. saludos
@rdrunner26
@rdrunner26 3 жыл бұрын
Hey keep at it! Remember with Damascus steel min 36 layers to create a pattern. Still stay at it, the profile was great, I bet it was very comfortable in the hand. You have raw talent. Expierence and failure will refine that talent
@HungryAnwar
@HungryAnwar 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video , Wonderful Channel, Thanks for sharing.
@Nosforawtu
@Nosforawtu 5 жыл бұрын
Not bad for a first attempt. Well done.
@406751
@406751 4 жыл бұрын
Good job buddy, .... looks great!
@TrikinOFC
@TrikinOFC 5 жыл бұрын
Ficou bonita, e tenho certeza que a próxima vai ficar mais ainda
@blacksmithindonesiakreatif9151
@blacksmithindonesiakreatif9151 4 жыл бұрын
Am fall in love for your anvil 🤩🤩. Anyway, Great job man 👍👍
@Genessis001
@Genessis001 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work!! 🙏
@TheMotorick
@TheMotorick 5 жыл бұрын
All I could think of was the phrase "steel sammich". Looks delicious.
@DustyKorpse
@DustyKorpse 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of hard work, kudos.
@thierryrozzo2813
@thierryrozzo2813 5 жыл бұрын
Per una prima volta non e tanto male 😉👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@nelsonsilvera8013
@nelsonsilvera8013 5 жыл бұрын
Felicito por los conocimientos quimicos y fisicos de las cosas-Desde Uruguay.saludos
@MGMakes
@MGMakes 5 жыл бұрын
A great experiment buddy. Love it. Sorry about the fracture along the spine.
@exquelioxv241
@exquelioxv241 5 жыл бұрын
That looks amazing.
@Sassenhaim
@Sassenhaim 3 жыл бұрын
The cutest little slag hammer I've ever seen 😍
@FredMcIntyre
@FredMcIntyre 5 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! 👍👊
@johnhartley3596
@johnhartley3596 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Hoping Part 2 is in the works. Thanks.
@BUSHCRAFTSURVIVAL
@BUSHCRAFTSURVIVAL 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Good job. Making Damascus is not easy it requires skills.👍🏻
@reneeverlaan3056
@reneeverlaan3056 3 жыл бұрын
3:47 little mouse steals the show under the anvil 🐁
@whocares6698
@whocares6698 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful job
@spencerwells4523
@spencerwells4523 5 жыл бұрын
just what everyones been waiting for
@JustinTopp
@JustinTopp 5 жыл бұрын
I like that it’s kinda simple Damascus not like super complicated. Simple is sometimes better
@Dapper422
@Dapper422 5 жыл бұрын
I really liked the fact you showed the file sound for harden vs not harden.
@PerfectBlue7
@PerfectBlue7 5 жыл бұрын
I thought you were going to fold the layers on themselves multiple time to make the pattern seen in Damascus blades
@reuk
@reuk 4 жыл бұрын
I thought so too. Since this is his first time maybe he just wants to feel how the knocking feels
@ethansamaon2491
@ethansamaon2491 3 жыл бұрын
That noy how it works
@shadowhenge7118
@shadowhenge7118 3 жыл бұрын
Noone makes damascus anymore. It's ancient. This is called forge welding, pattern welding if you are mixing metals and cutting and stacking for a specific pattern in the final blade. You would not want actual damascus steel. They had to fold it back then because the iron quality was so bad back then.
@buttface7848
@buttface7848 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing work.
@codyroberts4010
@codyroberts4010 5 жыл бұрын
Great job dude!
@marcsenteney3160
@marcsenteney3160 5 жыл бұрын
Well done sir!
@fraggler12
@fraggler12 5 жыл бұрын
Nice project! And cool channel you have here, cheers!
@MedSou
@MedSou 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work 👍👍👍👍👍
@mahsuma4048
@mahsuma4048 5 жыл бұрын
I dont know why I like this making blade videos
@geewizz3335
@geewizz3335 5 жыл бұрын
that was amazing to watch well done
@SnazzyZubloids
@SnazzyZubloids 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome project as always.
@antoniolanza7069
@antoniolanza7069 Ай бұрын
Buono ma il difficile non è saldare il damasco è forgiare punta e yagliente
@user-sr7dp2wc9h
@user-sr7dp2wc9h 5 жыл бұрын
Not an easy job, but very interesting. Well done, thanks!
@rationalanarchist7550
@rationalanarchist7550 5 жыл бұрын
Yep that was interesting..very cool
@bernardhill1622
@bernardhill1622 Жыл бұрын
Very tutorial..! Thanks..much appreciated..!!
@yoalepa
@yoalepa 5 жыл бұрын
Barba,le ganas a cualquiera que se ponga enfrente en desafío sobre fuego!!!
@MOUNTAINEAGLES
@MOUNTAINEAGLES 5 жыл бұрын
I know you did not like the result, but you can improve it in the next one, good video, keep going. *MOUNTAIN EAGLE*
@inhimm
@inhimm 5 жыл бұрын
Very challenging project.
@KnightsArmory
@KnightsArmory 4 жыл бұрын
Dude that was awesome
@BestExperiments
@BestExperiments 5 жыл бұрын
*amazing*
@johnnydingo8680
@johnnydingo8680 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see someone who does not have all the blacksmith tools (e.g. like young Steele) make a damascus blade. Still like the timelined index you have, although I would change the word in 3:16, if you know what I mean, lol. Enjoyed watching it.
@JehoelsWorks
@JehoelsWorks 5 жыл бұрын
Good job
@christonatormckenna1572
@christonatormckenna1572 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@alexanderglotzbach359
@alexanderglotzbach359 5 жыл бұрын
Its interessting to see that you forged around 10layers together and grind more than a half away...damascus is hard to do without powerhammer. But you done well! Nice video by the way.
@husk79
@husk79 5 жыл бұрын
looks good for your first try!!
@martinwolf5957
@martinwolf5957 5 жыл бұрын
Good job, great 👍 👍 👍
@chrisromer8014
@chrisromer8014 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to see finished with a handle. Great work so far.
@vbgvbg1133
@vbgvbg1133 5 жыл бұрын
It looks cool
@darrencookfishing7961
@darrencookfishing7961 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet bro!
@majedbhaa2023
@majedbhaa2023 Жыл бұрын
Very nice
@tonoalvarado1436
@tonoalvarado1436 5 жыл бұрын
¡Genial! Deberías participar en Desafío Sobre Fuego de The History Channel.
@mauricioelias2034
@mauricioelias2034 5 жыл бұрын
Very Nice!
@smartypants5036
@smartypants5036 3 жыл бұрын
I would be so proud of that. It would work a treat and is a great result that would not make the bin as I fear that my first attempt at pattern welded steel will.
@supernatureza
@supernatureza 4 жыл бұрын
Very good
@user-mm1nh1jn9j
@user-mm1nh1jn9j 5 жыл бұрын
С почином!
@deardeo8728
@deardeo8728 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm nice and beautiful making, new frnd like it
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