yeah I'm waiting for something this small that can easily play PS2, GC, and Wii games. maybe by next year tbh i don't really care for stacked shoulder buttons just makes the device more bulky imo

@@dreamybull1509 more bulky for sure, but the comfort of analog stacked triggers can’t be denied. For pocketability though the candybar style is definitely superior.

I think the smaller 4:3 screens on these systems would really do justice for PS2, GameCube emulation. They'll look so good. I felt that PS1 graphics shortcomings were well disguised by these smaller compact screens, somewhat mitigating the need for upscaling.

​@@skycloud4802 KTR1 is 4:3 and has better performance than the Retroid Pocket 3+ 😊

I just want to play Battle of Bikini Bottom or Godzilla Destroy All Monsters Melee on a handheld, is that too much to ask?

If a vid isn't 5min or below I don't consider it a 'quick vid'.

The part about the right side of the device getting warm has me worried, so I’m hoping he goes more in depth on that

FUCK THAT 505 better

Agreed. But this handheld has an identity problem. It's so close to great that it's frustrating. Firstly, the metal shell is cool but it makes the device a lot heavier, and this thing is going for pocketablity which gets hurt. They should've gone with plastic, and made it fun. Like with Pikachu Yellow, GameCube Indigo, N64 Teal, GBC Atomic Purple, or Clear Shell. Secondly, this has a 4:3 screen which is for retro systems. You don't need joysticks. So put them below, and have them recessed. Along with the retro games, it would've been fine using a smaller yet more efficient processor. But would've benefited greatly from an efficient software like Onion/Garlic OS.

Now, if they wanted this for modern systems, again they could've done much better with slight tweaks. Firstly, I still recommend a Plastic Shell. It's for weight and pocketablity. The metal shell is cool but it's too heavy. Secondly, they needed to go with a 16:9 display. This makes the device more rectangular, so the bezels need to be trimmed, and the size (4.0-4.8in) needs to be balanced with the best being around 4.5 inches. Thirdly, you really need joysticks and shoulders. So put both joysticks high above, and have them extrude for better movement range. The shoulders will need to become analogue triggers, and flared out for comfort. The D-Pad and Action Buttons aren't as important they can go below the joysticks. For the modern games, it's a necessity to use a fast processor. The T618 is a bit long in the tooth, especially at the USD $150 price. A better fit would've been a USD $200 budget, but stepping up to the Unisoc T670, Dimensity 820, Exynos 1350, or Snapdragon 778 chipset. Whilst a Linux OS becomes a handicap, the Android OS is the obvious choice to keep here. Potentially needing some refinement and UX improvement. ...so yeah. They should've made some tweaks to make this a become a much better modern gaming device. There's not many of them out there. Or take some adjustments to make it optimised for older retro gaming, but that market is relatively saturated. Either way, this weird middle-ground just makes too many compromises.

@@ekinteko Plastic? Perhaps ANBERNIC will later release an RG405P.

@@ekinteko Practically everything you suggested in this comment describes the RG505.

Yep can get the Odin lite for like 30 bucks more

@@amdgamer1990 yes but that's hugem this is nice and pocketable

True but I play rpgs I need lager screen to read the text

I dunno about that, this is pretty much a premium build model of a handheld.

@@solzan2000 $200 for a device that doesn’t play 6th gen is anything but premium.

What’s your update now that you have it?? :)

@@Frilleon I should have waited for sale :) To pay less and have a less chance to get falling out screen. Besides old clunky android, it works just fine. Perfect dreamcast machine. I don't know will I try custom firmwares or not, they got too many emulators on them. I set up daijisho, dolphin (for wiiware), dolphin mmjr (for gamecube), redream, duckstation, play mostly Ridge Racer Type 4 at this point.

I compared the size using displaywars, 16:9 5" is virtually identical as a 4:3 4" display with the sides cut off.

Only thing is would high resolution 4:3 screens be easy to source? A lot of devices use screens that are spare or repurposed iPhone or Android smartphone screens aren't they? I'd love to have more of them though though as the high res analogue pocket display looks amazing for Gameboy games.

1280*960 would probably be ideal, but the closest I could find in a smartphone device that made it to market is 1280*800.

@@skycloud4802 I'm totally fine without 4:3, but they're definitely not common. Currently, the paimax has a 4k display (supposedly), and the analogue pocket has 1440p. Which are the ideal resolutions for shaders. If only those could be sourced by other companies. I know it's difficult/costly for just anyone to order and manufacture custom panels.

@@skycloud4802 if someone like miyoo, anbernic, etc. had the analogue pocket display, I'd buy day one.

Inline shoulder buttons are an abomination

Muscle memory nightmare.

I personally think this issue is overstated.

Yeah that’s a deal breaker for me.

There’s a special spot in hell for these folks that keep designing for in-line shoulder buttons. Seriously though, if there were a choice I would pay $30-40 more for a stacked shoulder model of the same device.

I feel your pain on that one. I've been liking the Steam Deck's 16:10 for both modern and retro. Just way too big for some situations

I would just to see Russ going over the ktr1 at this point haha. Too bad his hasn’t been shipped yet.

@@bear532 they should ship this weekend to reviewers

@@guscrist9710 I hope so🤞

Odin lite or pro would scratch that itch

With a properly configured Dolphin MMJR, the RP3+ plays pretty much every GC game, and the remainder run well on the Dolphin for Handheld MMJR2 app they include with the device. I even play some Wii games on mine, and I can run PS2 at 2.5X. I think another step up for the chipset would be great, but I don't think the prices will be in line for another several years. Meanwhile, we all have phones that demolish these things, and we've already purchased the phones.

I need GameCube as well otherwise I can't justify these handhelds over just using my phone with a Kishi style controller.

we’re definitely getting there. very soon. I’m probably just going to get a 35xx for now, and wait for a truly pocketable device that can run what you listed.

Nah with rg552 screen

To be fair, these devices are primarily for retro games which use a 4:3 aspect ratio. I honestly don’t like playing 4:3 games on a modern display because it has letter boxing.

Totally agree. I really prefer to use BT audio if I can.

this is the next gen of the 353, hence the 405 name. They would have named it the 400m if it wasn’t or the 406m if it was the next gen 505.

@@bear532 no next gen would be 355. 35-the screen size (3.5inch), and then 5- the generation of chip powering it. Next gen 505 would be the 506

@@bear532 the 405 is not the next gen, more like a new line up, the 35 in the 353 series refers to the screen size, same with this one

@@duranmxx I actually just learned I was wrong. The 5 represents the soc gen, it has nothing to do with the gen of specific models.

The screen is so much better on the RG552, I don't feel the faster chip on Android only would be worth upgrading too.

finally? the rg552 came out last year 😆

@@clankfish I wasn't the original poster, I'm perfectly happy with my RG552 now.

Anyone know how they number these? I can't keep my head straight with the names

​@@AnonYmous-xw1jn rg40 means 4 Inch Display and the 5 means the Version/series/generation and the "M" means "Metal" Example: rg353p -> 3,5 Inch Display, 3rd Generation and p for plastic

It's a take on the pal snes controller

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Greetings fellow video game enthusiast

That’s basically an Ayn Odin though

depend on how strong you need it? if you're waiting for gamecube/ps2 emulation then i wouldn't get a retro handheld until next year

The best ones right now depending on specific tastes and needs are roughly from cheapest to most expensive and from smaller to bigger size, the Miyoo Mini+/RG5XX, RG353M (or V for vertical), Retroid Pocket 3+, the Ayn Odin Pro/Lite, the more premium Analogue Pocket and of course the Steam Deck. But yes, can't go wrong waiting for the next more powerful chipsets if there's no rush!

@@pancon5 do you think I should get a 505 or a win 600 because I want something bigger than my 353v and I want the best bang for my buck

@@samadrousesmith226 Russ here in the retro game corps channel has an RG505 vs Retroid Pocket 3+ , it's quite thorough, I'd recommend watching it if you haven't already! Other channels have also made this comparison. I know very little about the Win600 sadly.

Rp3+ is a very good choice for performance and price

@@Guitario666 Under 100€ is my goal, so now it’s either the miyoo mini plus or the anbernic rg35xx, mostly for snes and mega drive, I don’t care much for early 3D games like ps1, n64 or saturn.

@@JP-rz2pp rg3xx is fantastic with garlicos. And unlike miyoo handhelds.. it's available for purchase 😁

@@JP-rz2pp PS1 and Saturn have lots of great 2D/2.5D games like Castlevania SotN etc.

I think that the RK3566 SoC is far more open source friendly though, isn't it?

A companion for the deck?! Got your point but even if that thing is huge by itself, its the "ultimate" in terms of emulation, almost everything runs fine.

@@psp4gamer I love my deck and it does pretty much everything but I would really like something pocketable that could run GameCube consistently. The Retroid 3+ is super close but doesn't quite cut it. I

@@psp4gamer It isn't a daily carry, so why comment about it?

if retroid came out with some competition for the odin lite; that would definitely be a contender...

The steam deck is outdated and it's only been a yr it's way to big and the battery sucks

If the RG405M was as powerful but with a linux os, and the Dpad on top, that would be my ultimate retro portable handheld. I would jump at it as fast as a snake bite.

@@hugotipple Agreed!

I was taking a closer look at the chip rk3588 and I find it VERY hard that Anbernic would use it to build a 4:3 device. It would be a bigger screen, with different ratio for PS2 games. The chip will very likely be used on TV Boxes due to the capacity of image output. They would hardly waste it on a tiny screen. The chip alone costs $100.00. Let's see what future holds. I think I won't be seeing my dream pocketable retro handheld any time soon.

@@hugotipple Maybe it could come on a device similar and somewhere between the RP3+ and the Odin in size, who knows!

@@pancon5 yes, I think so. And that's the problem for me. You heard Russ, they kind of suffered to find a 4" 4:3 screen. The demand for a biggish almost square screen is very small so the production is limited. Most devices use widescreen format so they're readily available in all different qualities. I haven't seen the 405M in person but the screen may be good enough. I don't even need a chip as powerful as the RK3588. Only powerful enough to emulate all plataforms from the CRT TV era, including N64 and dreamcast without stuttering. And the Dpad on top. The RG405M is very close, though. I just don't think that Andoid frontends are as neat as these linux based OS like AmberElec, etc.

Do you have a recent flagship phone? if so it might be worth considering grabbing a controller for your phone and turning it into an at home steam deck. I use geforcenow, moonlight, gamepass and many emulators on my z fold. Can stream all my games from my pc to my phone on 5g network and seamless on 5ghz wifi

@@const3llations_370 I use an Iphone so my options in that space aren't great and part of the reason I got into the retro handhelds space was to get me off my phone away from social media, so a phone based emulator defeats the point

​​@@const3llations_370 Do you mind sharing more about this? Geforce, Moonlight, etc? I have a spare OnePlus 7 Pro that I was wondering if I could use for gaming. I was considering getting a controller for it, but I wasn't sure how effective it would be power and performance wise, versus getting something like a Steam Deck or the G Cloud. I'm still learning and trying to figure out my best options, but I know regardless I'm getting a device that is designed to be an emulator like in this video.

wait until I tell you about the last number and the letters lol, then your mind is really going to be blown haha. The last number is the gen, except they always skip gen4 because apparently 4 in mandarin (I don’t speak mandarin, just read this somewhere) sounds a lot like the word death so it’s considered bad luck to use it (similar to how buildings skip assigning the 13th floor). Then the letter is either m for metal, p for plastic, or v for vertical. Although Russ talks about the rg405m being a replacement of the rg505, it’s really the 4th gen of the 353 devices.

@@bear532 Lol! I new about the letters but not the version number, thanks!. Make the numerous products from them a little easier to sort through and understand now.

@@ViralHeadcase sorry I gave you some wrong info. The last number is the generation of the soc being used and not the generation of the handheld itself.

Those bigger face buttons look great.

RP3+ is fantastic, and so is that classic 351 line from Anbernic. I'm a RP3+ and RG351V guy myself, covers all fronts for me with the horizontal and vertical form factors, 16:9 and 4:3, Linux and Android, thinner/portable form factor vs chunkier comfier to hold, and so on. They balance each other out.

Man. Seriously? Like once or twice I can understand but 4 times?? No one can even place orders on the kt r1 now because paypal blocked and flagged his account for suspicious transactions, paypal buyers protection isn’t there for this purpose, if you can’t make up your mind don’t ruin it for everyone else

@@seapunk.mp3 I have only ordered my ktr1 once. To change my order, I emailed him asking for the change and he has been very helpful. So don’t go pointing fingers. Also, 4 is very excessive. I’ve never been more indecisive in my life regarding a product. The reason I’m so indecisive is because I’ve never had a handheld with this form factor before. I own a steamdeck which has the joystick and dpad next to each other making either option just as comfortable and I have an original gbc and gba which obviously don’t have a joystick. I don’t have the faintest clue how comfortable or uncomfortable it is to play a device with a stacked dpad and joystick. I do use an xbox controller very rarely on my pc so I’m used to using a joystick and the dpad is off to the side so it’s not uncomfortable to use at all. My all time favorite handheld games have been pokemon. The ktr1 is the perfect gba emulator and I wanted the dpad on top specifically for pokemon. However, I’m really not crazy about older games that rely on the dpad (except mario games). I know I will most likely end up playing games that use a joystick if I’m not playing pokemon. So in my head it’s either have the perfect pokemon emulator and not be as comfortable at playing other games (except for fighting games) or have a handheld that makes most other games comfortable to play, but not my favorite handheld game, pokemon. If I had ever used a similar device, I would not be this indecisive. I don’t want to order the wrong layout because first it’s expensive and secondly I highly doubt I’ll be able to change it once I get it. I have ordered it with the joystick on top.

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Still would be way more convenient to upgrade the battery in the device itself or have a way lighter backup compared to a powerbank

Now still using my psp go and I bought a powerbank a while ago for my phone It wasn't strong enough to charge my psp go

Not an oled. It's IPS display

Why you no like games past PS1

@@user-vi4xy1jw7e Oh, it's really more just a personal realization. Those libraries more than fulfill the types of things I prefer to play on the go, and they're also all extremely cheap, easy, and no-fuss to get running properly at full speed. I would get severely diminishing returns past that. My personal exception is that good PS2 emulation would be ideal. However, I DO also already have a Steam Deck in addition to my RG351v. Past that, almost everything else on the market is either Android-based, which means AetherSX2 and... yeah no, or Windows-based and insanely expensive.