Have you seen the chaika ramjet?

@@Miles26545 maverick be like

😂😂

I’ll take two Please

Fear it you must

Good point

NOT ONLY WT fails to hold up how well those planes as well as the b17 could hold up and taking a beating before being bailed out on .. thats why in the wars ya a lot got shot down but a ton of those planes were able to return even though they were torn to shreds and were missing a lot of parts ..WT doesn't do those planes justice ....

@@rickc1682yea In WT it’s just “oh you took a 7.62 to the wing? Oh nvm your wing fell off”

@@rickc1682 you forget that in warthunder RB, its MUCH easier to get your guns on target with mouseaim and land multiple hits. Change the gamemode to sim and its a lot harder and B29s would be lasting a lot longer. 262s carry 30mm cannons, only a handful of hits would destroy even heavy bombers. I suggest looking up the video of a single 30mm mk108 hitting a spitfire wing on a test range. Basically turned it into confetti.

@@CrazyDutchguys Wrong, if the game mechanics are half through correct, one single Mine-shell of the 30mm kills a B29. That is just slaughter... as the americans learned in korea as they had some B29 facing Migs alone.

Also tey started at the same altuide when the B-29 I think would have the advagtage in ceiling I'll need to check though.

Yeah but as you can see most of them are using the upgraded me-262 version and not the normal mass produced version

They are also made of cardboard in Warthunder. These things kept flying when shot to swiss cheese. In Warthunder a couple of rounds to one section makes it break apart like an egg. In RL that's just not how metal behaves these speeds.

@@JohnSmith-ty2he the 30mm cannon was quite devastating in reality, much more so then the 20mm or even the 7,92mm MGs.

@@wuestenfuchsxy yes. those rounds can blow off parts of planes war thunder style, unironically. they had a lot of explosive mass

​@@ixxxxxxx yep they did an experiment and one bullet alone can rip the wing of a spitfire

@@GUSTJUSTFUST i believe i saw the vid you're talking about yeah. they tested the german mk108's out post-war and it only took one round to blow a massive hole through the wing they set up, just destroyed it

that's WT for you

I have always thought that too

Not just that. The me262s would never hang around a bomber formation, let alone turn around and try to dogfight or re-engage immediately. They would start out above the bomber formation and dive down on them reaching 900+kph, do 1 attack run (killing 1 maybe 2 bombers) and keep diving so the enemy escorts can't catch up. Once sufficient distance is reached, they would pull up, again altitude and repeat.

From the tail? Already with bf109’s an fw190’s the germans found out that an attack from above and the front was the way to do it. Minimize the time under the bombers guns. Dive, fire, extend, climb, overtake, repeat.

@@MarcusFridholm yes, but they were *TAUGHT* to approach from the tail. That doesn't mean they always put it into practice

Yah, this was the best one in awhile

would have been nice to see them attacking with historical tactics like this; they were supposed to only have a few seconds to fire at like 700 kph if I remember correctly

that would be just this but like even more one sided somehow lmao

Play assault air arcade

it doesn´t matter... the B29 is not suitable against a Me-262. The same with other bombers OTL. If the Me could reach the bombers it was very bad news for them. 4 30mm is a death to any bomber. No shit. And with its greater speed the Me could kill a bomber so fast all the 12,7mm do nothing... if you watch the video you see the jet fighters used the "long range" shooting, against this the B29 are helpless targets.

@@steffenjonda8283 true I was referring to when muffin was going over the pro and cons of each aircraft outside of the test

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough oh, okay... about the Me-262, as long as it worked it was "unbeatable" for the allies. Only by start and landing they got the chance to shoot em down. Otherwise, in the air, 2 working turbines, any enemy was toast (outside the outliners or failures as "cruising with 600km/h and don´t look back" and other related stuff. But, in the hand of an average guy with more then 100h of air time, no enemy wanted to engage such planes. Because even fighters would get slaugthered... even the P-47, one hit and it is done. No chance of surviving this. The russians made it later even better with their 37mm-cannons, some could argue that the Aden-gun was better, but again this was just the german MK215-cannon... think about a Me-262 equipped with 2 of them... and then think about bombers... shudder So, ironically, with more Me-262 the bombing campagin could have come to an end. But it is good that this never happened.

I noticed something just now and thats that the me 262 is has an japanese „brother“

tbf the escort players were basically braindead

B-52 has no defensive gunners tho. Would just be useless. But would still be cool

Im guessing you're a big fan of taking AIM-7s to the face with nothing you can do about it? Because thats what will happen

@@CrazyDutchguys it has flares.

@@jholbrook1826 So does everything else at top tier but AIM-7s and Phoenixes certainly dont care

​@@oelholm Earlier ones did.

1:Flying a plane is harder than ya think 2: mfer its a 30mm mine shell which literally was known to rip bombers apart from a couple hits and 4 hiting the same spot would chop that section off. 3:I actually agree,but it would be way more difficult to have. different keybinds for each gun

4: the bombers in the vid were in fact in formation relatively close and on a videogame server you can only do so much

I ment the first jet

100%. The amount of film and footage of these bombers coming home looking like flying swiss cheese shows this. Hell these things kept flying after the entire crew was shot to death.

Even with max AI the gunners won't target beyond a certain range and it's so short that you might as well not even bother.

Pretty sure the British one wasn't a fighter

@@chuckythecat9894 the first British one was an experimental plane (as was the first German jet), the first jet in British service was a fighter, but if rover hadn't screwed up with the engines which delayed it into 1944 its possible Britain might have had the meteor in 42. In fact had the air ministry taken whittle more seriously in 1929, the Germans may never have developed a jet engine as the patent probably would have been deemed top secret and not published (Germany may well have developed their own, but wouldn't have had whittles design patents to go on) and possible Britain could have had jet fighters when war broke out assuming sufficient development work had occurred.

These men were also known as the Tuskegee Airmen black man from Tuskegee yeah for all those white aviators in the American Army and all the German ones deal with it you assholes for the record I am a white person I have extreme respect for these men but that's mainly because they're from Alabama actually it's mainly because they're blacks showing everyone that it don't matter what color your skin is secondly it's because they're Alabama I'm just glad to see Alabama is doing something for the world