Thank goodness! I almost cancelled my G87 M2 pre-order! ID8 is bad enough, forcing start/stop would of been enough for me to just stick with my ID7 2022 G42.

We're big fan's of the F8x cluster as well, it's modern yet classic all in one. This cluster is definitely a step into the future though, and is really cool to interact with in person.

Thank you, glad you found the video useful!

Voice control and non-movable climate menu and temp adjustment (screen) buttons mitigate most of the hassle that screen-based climate controls introduce. It takes time to get used to it, but once you are, it's really no different than hard keys for climate controls.

@@bmwofmorristown9038 I don't see any non-movable climeate menu options for Sync / AC / Moving direction.....

@@deanconstan481 Correct, the only non-movable screen buttons are for temp adjustment and climate menu, which will bring you to the other controls for fan speed, air direction, sync etc.

Thank you! We appreciate that, glad you enjoyed!

The tire menu car won't look like the actual car, but the car in the startup animations, parking 3D camera, and live vehicle screens will be Java Green! We do miss the M3 badge in the console, unfortunate that they got rid of that. Is there anything that wasn't addressed in this video regarding 22 vs 23 interiors that you're still curious about? We tried to cover the main changes in this video, the primary change, of course, being iDrive 8.

Lots of people share this sentiment, and we totally understand. However, in our opinion, the M3 has always been on the cutting edge of both performance and general automotive technology, and this is what that looks like in today's world. I personally love the screen in M cars. There's so much new-age feeling tech to play with, but when you want to, you can always turn the center screen off, leave your important performance gauges in the gauge cluster and do what an M3 is built to do: drive! We strongly encourage everyone to try M iDrive 8 in person; when you do, it's hard not to like it.

They added the big arse screen to the 2 series and new M2 now as well, so there’s no real “sports car first” options on the menu. So glad I grabbed a F87 CS. Clean interior, just enough luxury to be a daily, and easy on the eyes.

Totally agree with you !

Dude it's terrible this is supposed to be a M car a drivers car...it's supposed to feel special not have the same ugly tacky curved gaming display they are copy and pasting in every car now.

@@godsmack1716 The curved display is hugely different in M cars vs. standard models. It does feel special!

No, all 2023 and onward M3's will come with iDrive 8. If door count isn't important, you can opt for the M4 which will continue with iDrive 7 for the 23 model year. Although we'd at least recommend trying iDrive 8 in person before making that choice, as many people who are initially against warm up to it quickly once interacting with it.

@@bmwofmorristown9038 Will new M4 (next year) get Idrive 8? Thank you!

@@michaelyue2791 ID8 in the 2024 M4. The 2023 still come with ID7.

Interesting point, that may be true. Although I wouldn't expect screens to be breaking very frequently if at all.

@@bmwofmorristown9038 good, cause I’ve got idrive 7! 😆

The M version of iDrive 8 that is shown here is exclusive to full M cars like the M3, M4, M5 etc. It does not depend on competition package at all.

Thank you, glad you enjoyed!

You're welcome, glad you found it helpful! An early congrats on your M3 too!

I own a 22 is there any difference between the 23 M3 and 22? I have competition xdrive too

Did u get ur car yet, my wife still waiting,also in Canada

@@johnlu9368 Yep, received it at the end of September. It was a long process.

@@TimothyVogelsang how long is the waiting months? I am still waiting but got the Vin #.

No, the M Modes only save your driving settings under the setup menu.

You can sync both climate zones if desired, but there are no knobs to adjust temperature. Instead, temperature adjustment is handled through the screen via the two temperature adjustment buttons, which are fixed in place on the screen at all times.

The means that your car isn't equipped with M Drive Professional. At this point it is not something that can be retrofitted.

Not likely to be possible. Would require tons of new hardware and a lot of programming.

In the USA, it is in the X7, 7 series, M3 and M4, 3 series, iX and i4, 2 series coupe and X1. It is coming to X5/X6 in 2024. That list varies in other markets however.

Not bad at all. They've done a good job making it glare resistant, even without a cluster housing covering the gauges.

You can shortcut certain climate settings, like menu items, but not specific climate settings. It's best to use voice control if you want to circumvent the in-screen climate controls. Also, yes, you can access shortcuts with the iDrive controller only, so that muscle memory can be learned to get to the most important items without taking your eyes off the road at all.

@@bmwofmorristown9038 aw I was hoping I could make a shortcut to the fan setting, but thanks for the info!

The screen is standard, and the climate is only controllable by voice command and on-screen buttons. However, I'd give it a chance before you write it off. The screen and voice command work very well!

Yes, it is one of the content options in the gauge cluster configuration menu. You can have it there permanently if you'd like.

Unfortunately I don't, but there's something in there for everyone! Plenty to chose from.

Currently, this style of iDrive 8 is only for M cars. Perhaps there will be an aftermarket solution to add this to the non-M iDrive 8 cars, but it will not be available from BMW.

I wouldn't let the screen deter you! The more you use it, the more you'll like it. I would ask your dealership if you can spend some time with the car to get a feel for it to inform your decision. I wouldn't expect any faults or issues with the screen. We haven't seen any yet, and historically, the iDrive systems are pretty robust and don't give people many problems at all, from a durability and reliability standpoint.

I wouldn't take it. That dash looks awful and even worse on sport car like this M3C. It could have all the cool features on the world, still ugly.

@@yoe.garcia it’s not that bad it’s actually pretty cool I think

Agreed. I ordered one and now I'm distraught. The video doesn't even show the worst angle from the right where you can see the stupid kickstand. It looks like an iPad bolted to an IKEA desk. Terrible.

@@playnevergrind 100% that bracket stand holder behind the long iPad dash really looks odd. In the end the car got sold just yesterday to another customer with the maximum specifications built in the car. Apart from the dashboard the car does look awesome in sky scraper grey !

We would love to see this added as a software update, would be a really nice touch!

I’m hoping for a software update to remedy that issue. This digital instrument cluster should be much more customizable.

We don't have this information at the moment, but I would expect it for the LCI, is going to be in the next couple of years. Exact dates are not yet known.

Awesome, enjoy it!

Important to note that these graphics are only for M models. The series cars with iDrive 8 have more standard graphics. We personally think they look great, and a fun flair to the M cars.

@@bmwofmorristown9038 perhaps it looks better in person

@@Andrew-kr2qg It definitely looks more attractive in person than it does in video/photos.

It's interesting to hear all the negative comments on ID8. As someone who has lived with ID7 since 2018, I know the shortcomings inside and out. ID8 is a huge leap forward in lots of areas. Especially notable is wireless Android Auto and Apple Carplay without any add ons. I understand the screen is a matter of taste. I checked out the screen in a different model and I dig the single screen look. I do agree with the comment on AC buttons.. There should be hard buttons for key quick features like climate and stereo. The thing that made me think twice about getting the new M3 was the super kidney grille. Ultimately I ended up getting it totally blacked out with shadowline trim on black exterior paint. The black on black tones down the grille and the new model ultimately is a great machine and nice design, albeit with some decisions that could have been better. The day they stop offering the manual transmission is when I stop buying them. Honestly I think it's weird that so many automatic transmission Ms are even sold.

@@michaeljefferies5686 hope you’re enjoying your M3! I have a 2020 M340i, and my wife drive a 2018 Lexus RX350. The Lexus infotainment system itself is among the worst, as far as the ease of use. I just like the RPM gauge style in the RX 350. Ultimately the BMWs overall package delivers more desirable contributions that I think eventually shadow the nit picking details. But that’s what you get when you design a car that’s nearly perfect in every other way. For instance, I always loved the way the Audi S4 looked, but then I tested the modern BMWs and felt the overall package was better, so I bought a BMW instead. I would hope the ID8 is better than I think, because I may end up with it someday in the future. All I can say otherwise is that I like buttons.

We haven't had a chance to try this screen in the freezing cold yet, but with how reliable iDrive 7 was, we don't expect it to be a problem.

Agree and hot weather too ?

@@stevesworks1391 No problems in hot weather.

You're very welcome, but unfortunate that the details have turned you off the G80! It's such a phenomenal car in every way; we'd encourage you not to write it off so quickly because you don't like the interior screen. Give it a chance in person before you do. We've had many clients come in certain they'd hate the screen, only to leave really liking it.

Your loss lmao

@@tripleemce5003 lol right?? alfas are super unreliable

Sounds like it is not a US market car. Things can be quite different in other markets, so I wouldn't be surprised if ID8 has already made it to ICE 4 series cars in other markets.

We haven't gotten an LCI M340i or 2023 M240i in yet so can't confirm first-hand, but we believe this screen will be exclusive to full M models.

@@bmwofmorristown9038 You're right it's exclusive (just saw a different video). It's funny BMW puts so many M badges and colors on the M lite cars but doesn't include the M fonts or screens. (I have an M240i on order).

@@bmwofmorristown9038 but this M3 is not a LCI either so you're giving contradictory information

@@javierjimenez3627 The M3 did not get an LCI for 2023, but the regular 3 series did, hence the wording in our first reply to this comment thread 👍

Absolutely, nothing will make everyone happy! Interesting point about the temperature, just noticed that. It also appears that it was making 30 pounds of boost at idle lol. I think that's just a camera issue.

We don't know when, but I would expect it to come to the M4 eventually.

Agreed, it's a popular one for sure!

Are you sure? The 2023 M4 does not have iDrive 8, which is what brings this infotainment system to the car. Even on the cars that do have it though, it is a standard feature, and does not require any additional charge. Sometimes the window stickers are itemized in a confusing was that makes it look like it's $1,000 extra, when in fact that $1,000 extra is for the HUD. Either way, the M4 doesn't have this screen, so it shouldn't be a factor for you.

@@bmwofmorristown9038 I was told yesterday by my dealer that my ordered m4 comp convertible only comes with the new curved panel now, and he is sending me the order ammendment and add price for it, otherwise he needs to cancel my order from jun2022.

@@bmwofmorristown9038 it is standard now and there is a price increase

Initially, yes. But once you have your shortcuts organized and are familiar with the system, it's no more distracting than any other touch screen.

Enjoy your M4! Screens or not, the G8x are great cars to drive!

Agreed, we really like it as well. ID8 is coming to all BMW models eventually. M8 did receive an LCI for 2023, so it will not come to that car until it's next generation, if it gets a next generation. M5 is all new for 2024 and will get ID8.

Unsure of the exact dates for the G8x LCI but we expect that will be around 2024, either starting production in 2024 as a 2025 model, or as a 2024 model.

@@bmwofmorristown9038 my sales told me allocation on Nov for 2023. should I take it or wait? any advice since i do not want to buy it 2023 and facelife 2024.

@@johnlu9368 Since we don't have exact dates for the LCI yet, it's tough to say. Best you can do is keep an eye out for news on the G80 LCI!

@@bmwofmorristown9038 my sales helps my wife to jump up couple spots,production in Nov for 2023 m3xdrive. Thanks for the information. I may buy out this car since it may be last pure combustion engine

The M3 is the attainable dream car for many!

Great point! When push comes to shove, you can turn off the screen and enjoy it for what it's for: driving! That said, the screen works great for what it's designed for.

As far as the sound system? We personally find the Harmon Kardon system to be very nice, but admittedly haven't tried the systems in the latest Audi or MB products.

It does indeed!

Dravit Grey! A fan favorite for sure.

Glad to hear it, us too!

From the drivers seat it looks great!

As we've expressed to others who've voiced similar opinions, we really think folks will warm up to it in person and with more time spent with the system!

Agreed and well said. I settled for an M340 bc it doesn’t have that hideous front end.

@@E92M3V8 the front end in the m3 looks amazing to me now. Its so mean and aggressive

Perhaps in the iX :)

I had the same initial reaction at first, but overtime it's become almost as easy to use as normal hard buttons. Not AS easy, but close. Voice control, on the other hand, requires no diversion of attention, and works quite well.

@@bmwofmorristown9038 yeahhh, so I payed a lot of money for head up display, to keep my eyes on the highway, but instead of searching for controls with my hand, now I have to look away for temp control.. very intelligent bmw...

Dravit Grey Metallic!

Give it a shot in person, we think you'll like it :)

Us too! It looks fantastic with full-screen Apple CarPlay.

Agreed, love the laser-light headlight design on the G8x! I'm not sure it would suit the G87 very well though, the G80/82 and G87 have very different designs, and the M2's unique headlight design gives it its own character!

Press the BC button on the end of your turn signal stalk :)

Wouldn't hold your breath on that one, people are really liking the G8x front end now!

Yes! We sell at MSRP; pricing can depend on countless factors, so sometimes at market value or below MSRP as well.

We quite like it in person, give it a chance if you can.

It's definitely a big step forward! You'll love your M3, it'll be well worth the wait!

Who doesn’t want Star Trek tech in their car though?!

ID8 is very new, it will be current gen tech for quite a while :)

It's a top spec for sure!

It’s quite a good system. Time will tell if all these negative opinions actually last, or if people are just shocked by such a new and unique design, and will eventually end up liking it. I’m strongly suspecting it will be the latter, as it always has been.

Totally understand that complaint. It doesn't feel quite as well-integrated as previous systems, but it does look nice in person, in our opinion.

It is a lot of car for sure! A bit like using a samurai sword to spread butter when used for daily duties. But that's the fun of it!

With the exception of hard drive memory, all of those features you mentioned are available! Start/stop is always defeatable as well. We've found that once you've lived with iDrive 8 for a while, many of the essential controls become muscle memory, and are just as easy to do as they were with hard keys.

@@bmwofmorristown9038 I was speaking in general about id8 on all bmw models. It is direction that company is going. Unrelated to id8 all Series 1 and series 2 have good car dimensions, price is close to same with series 3 and 4. And when you look 1 year age car with below 30k km, you can buy 5 and 7 series for same money as 1 year old series 1. But then you get to issue that certain stuf you cant equip on new car in germany that 3 or 5 series can. You need to drive car at summer when it was siting on sun 30 min, outside 40c and you die how hot it is in 70k euros car, no ventilated seats. I think in re-designe it was aded as option now for 3 series. But older m3 or 3 series in general didnt have it. Less choices for equipment is noticable as you go down from 5 series. I do have to mention isolation and quality of stuf go down aswell. But price does not folow much. That gets you to only drive 5 series and forget all other bmw exist. And it is not even money related. People from bmw company need to be more realistic and actualy spend a month in each of their models at hot and cold weather and drive it on mixed town roads and old roads. Car size is growing all the time aswell. Now related to id8. To all people who use high end tech, fast pcs, high quality sound systems at home, high end phones, high end tvs and so on cos that is mostly lifestyle when you can aford m3 or higher, id8 is nothing impressive. It has a lot of aplications and so on, but then it probably fails on simple basic dumb stuf like id7. I already said that i dislike screen and designe. As for practicality, i really hope that it is 10x faster and more responsive and reliable then id7. As for gesture and speaking to a car, forget it, you cant cover that many languages to get that working properly. Id7 fails at english. I dont expect much more for id8. Also, navigation on id7 is hell, terrible. So i dont expect much on id8 on that part. Not related to id8 speaking about sound, i removed on my car harman, to put aftermarket sound. And now is way better. My car was 1 year age 25k km, so it was not ordered, harman was already there in m340d. I did same with harman in my m5. I just want to say that bmw has a long way to go on everything below 5 series. 5 is decent.

We think ID8 works great in the M models. Really fits the cutting edge ethos that the M department has build a reputation for. Give it a chance in person if you can!

That's true of all BMW's. They start in Comfort mode by default. All you have to do is press one button right on the steering wheel to get back to the settings you like :)

We've had iDrive 8 cars on our showroom floor for months now, it hasn't worn off, or worn us down at all!

Absolutely they should take some inspiration from Porsche this looks completely cartoonish and cheap specially on a M car sad!

We've found that many iDrive 8 "naysayers" have warmed up to the system after spending some time with it. I was one of them, but I'm really liking the system now!

@@bmwofmorristown9038 I personally am not against it I just think on an m car is not too appealing

@@carfeen stop living in the past bro😂

@@lxxj1178 bro you don’t think this is a bitch much for an m3 ??? Shit looks like a goddam tesla 🤦🏽‍♂️ what they have now is perfect this was definitely rushed they should’ve saved it for the lci

Many said that about the grille too, and now people love the look! Give it time to warm up to you, it will :)

I can tell you without reservation that it feels and looks anything but cheap when you're in the car. It looks super modern and high-tech. The lines are sharp and crisp, and the frame is very modern and high-end feeling. I wouldn't let a screen preference turn you away from such a phenomenal car. At least try it in person, it may change your mind.

I have reconsidered my decision to order an M240i for the same reason. I was a big fan of iDrive 7, but can't stare at a super wide tablet.

How old are you? 89?

@@javierjimenez3627 24 🤷🏽‍♂️ I work for bmw store the new cars are gay af compared to every old model to now

But new tech does have to be pushed in all makes and models, otherwise, before you know it, the make and model that doesn't adopt the new tech will be seen as outdated and obsolete. BMW always stays ahead of the tech curve, and this is no exception. Thankfully they've done a really nice job of bringing the cars into the new age of car technology.

It was just a walkthrough of the infotainment system! Check our channel for a walkthrough of the entire car.

Give it a shot in person, it's an awesome system!

But you can buy 2 M3's for the price of one AMG GT63S! Easy choice if you ask us :)

Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I say the same thing about ID8 as I did about the grille. Give it a chance in person, and it becomes difficult not to like.

@@bmwofmorristown9038 do you not think that bmw could have done a better job integrating the screen into the dash. After several days of seeing this now, its not the screen that gets me, its the fact they just plopped it ontop of the dash almost as an afterthought

Alex there is still time. I just got an allocation for the 2023 M4. Still comes with ID7. Just saying! :D

@@alexmartins5496 Definitely a valid point. They definitely could have integrated it into the dash more, however, I think they were going for a more modern look. The big, in your face screen kind of tackles that as opposed to a more integrated "traditional" looking design. I can see where BMW was coming from with their design, but I can also totally understand the gripes with it. I personally think it looks fine, but can see how one would want it to be more integrated.

the 2022 looks so prehistoric

@@erniepulido5968 if it ain't broke dont fix it. If all it takes to look modern is a square screen and too many colorful lines in the gauge cluster than I'll happily be prehistoric

@@joeyn3590 love my ID8 what ever works for you

Lmao good coke

Trippin. Idrive8 looks 1000x better and more modern.

Sorry to hear that! It seems to have grown on most people... maybe the LCI will sway you.

Perhaps it didn't come through properly on camera, but the screen is curved. It is heavily curved towards the driver, making it very easy to see on the fly. BMW interiors have historically been driver-centric, and this screen continues this.

Check our reply on your other comment!

@@bmwofmorristown9038 bmw fore sure saved a lot of costs wirh cables buttons and assy costs. As buyer for oem car electronics I tell you that this panel costs max €150, but ist sold for 30x this cost, while I am obligated to take it..

The circular gauges are missed, but this is a huge leap into the future for M. It will take getting used to for purists, but it's quite an impressive system.

So will we in a way. The analog gauges were certainly beautiful. But this is the future. We've said it before, but if we didn't have a full gauge cluster screen by now, the car would be crucified in the press for being outdated...

The RS5 is an awesome car,but driving an M3 back to back with an RS5 will make the choice for you :) The screen is really useable in person.

Sorry you feel that way. We can confidently guarantee visceral driving pleasure, but the screen aesthetics are of course subjective. We always recommend trying it in person before writing it off.

M is as alive as ever :)

I think you misspelled fantastic ;) To each their own, but give it a shot in person. The screen looks great and works well.

@@bmwofmorristown9038 i did it’s horrible. You used to make great cars…