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First look at the Carenado Piper PA-28 Archer II in Microsoft Flight Simulator

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Jonathan Beckett

Jonathan Beckett

Күн бұрын

A first look at the Carenado Piper PA-28 Archer II in Microsoft Flight Simulator - taking it for a quick flight from Boonville to Cloverdale in the US. Along the way we try out some of the avionics, do some stall tests, and have some fun.
Wonderful little plane.
#msfs #carenado #piper #archer #pa28 #asobo #microsoft #aviation #flightsimulator #flying #flight #aircraft #firstlook #review

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@joerodriguez9484
@joerodriguez9484 Жыл бұрын
I used to own a PA-28 and was very impressed at how stable it was in the air. I picked up this plane for MSFS the other day and was suitably impressed. It feels like the actual plane. The lack of an autopilot is not a problem as it's incredibly easy to hand fly.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
Yep - it really is very, very easy.
@caribbaviator7058
@caribbaviator7058 Жыл бұрын
Yep flew the Archer TX which is a new model all glass and that thing is rock stable compared to the C172s I flew!
@GulfCoastTim
@GulfCoastTim Жыл бұрын
Carenado is simply an excellent developer of GA aircraft. For high quality aircraft at a fair price, it's hard to go wrong. As you pointed out in this video, this aircraft is impressive both inside and out. I can put a lot of hours flying all over the place with this plane and enjoying every minute of it. Oh and the thumbnail, looks real.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
I tend to re-crop the thumbnails and tidy them up so they look nice :)
@thoughtful_criticiser
@thoughtful_criticiser 4 ай бұрын
The PA28 flaps are mechanical so move instantly, in real world you don't taxi with flaps extended, start with fuel pump on and put it on for take off and landings. You do run up and take off checks prior to departure, check left, right and both magnetos. No flaps needed for normal take off, only short field departure. Rotate about 85mph.
@dcnolde
@dcnolde Жыл бұрын
Thanks for being one of the first ones to review this new aircraft!
@dcnolde
@dcnolde Жыл бұрын
Totally agree Carenado look so much like a picture.
@juliashenandoah3965
@juliashenandoah3965 Жыл бұрын
Uh another GA classic, a true beauty inside! Only in the older days they made such beautyful cockpits instead of "cheaping out and as much purism as possible" design idea. This thing will be an absolute beauty when flying in VR.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
It does look good :)
@michaelharper2339
@michaelharper2339 9 күн бұрын
I just got it and it's a real gem! love flying it!
@woltri68
@woltri68 Жыл бұрын
thanks for this brief review. this surely will be my next purchase for the flightsim. maybe carenado does not build the most realistic aircrafts, but they look just wonderful and since I don't fly on vatsim or other online communities and I just fly to relax after a day at the office to cool down its not such a big deal for me (nevertheless I also love the P28 line of just flight) I just like those old fashioned steam gauge cockpits since I did my first "lessons" in the build in "flight school" with the C152. I've had watch quite a few of your reviews and guides and wanted to give you a thank you as it often was helpful and I like your calm kind of presentation.
@peterlazuric5641
@peterlazuric5641 Ай бұрын
I used to fly the Piper Archer and loved. The video was enjoyable to watch. Next time you take this bird up and want to do an aileron role turn the fuel pump on first and see if that helps with the engine.
@focus82grothm.84
@focus82grothm.84 Жыл бұрын
I'm really enjoying this, lovely flying and a great airplane 😊👍
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@focus82grothm.84
@focus82grothm.84 Жыл бұрын
@@jonbeckett My pleasure 😊
@Merci4mercy
@Merci4mercy Жыл бұрын
I want the Archer 3 which is the one we use for training at my university. This is a very welcome addition though.
@chrispeel9263
@chrispeel9263 Жыл бұрын
Great video.Thanks.These do spin quite well depending on fuel/weights.Not sure about now but in the 70s spin recovery was part of the PPL test. Incidentally what you call a compass was known as a DI which you correctly adjusted to match the real compass reading.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
Directional giro = direction indicator (at least in my head) :)
@BHPilot82
@BHPilot82 7 ай бұрын
Spin recovery training was not allowed during my flight training in the early 2000's. I learned to fly in a Piper Cadet and did my final check ride in a Piper Warrior. Very very familiar in these Pipers 😁
@yams900
@yams900 Жыл бұрын
It’s actually very cute ! I always liked these basic aircrafts, hand flying is really fun ! Would be even better without GPS :)
@rymdskrotet
@rymdskrotet Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. 👍🏼
@Itallianmobboss
@Itallianmobboss 7 ай бұрын
I flew a cherokee. Pretty much same. But i tried stalling it. It’s very hard
@AshleyWincer
@AshleyWincer Жыл бұрын
The aircraft looks good. I'll certainly get it for my X-Box flight sim..
@taekatari
@taekatari Жыл бұрын
I fly an Archer II IRL and I must say I have never had the wing come anywhere close to dropping when stalling XD
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
Yeah - that's what I thought. I was forcing it into a pretty deep stall though. That said - when I threw it into a turning stall and leaned into it - it absolutely wasn't going to spoin or tumble.
@danweston8375
@danweston8375 Жыл бұрын
Same...I fly IRL and just mushes, not drop a wing. Be great to tweak those stalls cause it's gorgeous aircraft, well done Carenado. Just wish slow flight was more spot on. Bought and will enjoy it.
@BHPilot82
@BHPilot82 7 ай бұрын
The Cadet and Warrior I flew IRL did drop wings when stalling but was mushy at first.
@renevandop7333
@renevandop7333 Жыл бұрын
It’s a cute plane. It does make me wish JustFlight hurried up with fixing their Arrows. They’ve been parked in the hangar for months now 😢
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
Are they broken? I've got them - not tried them for a while.
@renevandop7333
@renevandop7333 Жыл бұрын
@@jonbeckett Let’s say their flightmodel has not kept pace with Asobos updates over the last half year. It’s behaving a bit erratically sometimes. I don’t like flying them at the moment. They are working on it though!
@mikepapahotel
@mikepapahotel Жыл бұрын
Damn Jonathon - you're a video production machine! 😂✊🏻
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
I had a night with little else going on for a change :)
@Steve-ui1ej
@Steve-ui1ej Жыл бұрын
Nice plane and good review of it. I think I will be picking it up soon. Sounds like your getting over your cold. Mine lasted about 3 weeks. Not fun, thak care.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
Yeah - the cold/cough has been hanging on.
@RobisonRacing68
@RobisonRacing68 Жыл бұрын
Just a heads up with the click spot to return the tablet to its pocket. It felt like to me like the click spot was wonky but I found if I held the button in it worked everytime. Thanks for the review! I bought it and like it. A lot. :)
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
Good to know!
@mikecoffee100
@mikecoffee100 Жыл бұрын
I do wish someone else would have made this aeorplane and good video by the way
@ellonysman
@ellonysman Жыл бұрын
Fire en commrnt...good one
@azcharlie2009
@azcharlie2009 6 ай бұрын
No autopilot is a killer on this one. I've owned this and it's too bad, because the flight characteristics of the airplane are very good. Very much like the real thing. I'm still looking for a good PA28-181 Archer II that matches my real Archer II. The Just Flight Xplane Archer III is way too unstable, and it stalls at way to high an airspeed.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett 6 ай бұрын
But... but... the X-Plane crowd will lynch you for saying that! You can't question the flight modelling in X-Plane - that's as bad as blaspheming in St Peter's Square :) lol
@GumperVanLier
@GumperVanLier Жыл бұрын
I've got the Just Flight Piper Warriors and Arrow. This is similar but you get a crude autopilot with the other models.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
You do :) The JustFlight is the Arrow III - this is the II
@lipslide101
@lipslide101 Жыл бұрын
FYI, the Just Flight PA28's are not yet updated for the new flightmodel msfs uses since the last update. They are not realistic at all to fly and way too twitchy at the moment... This plane, however, flies perfectly as it should in real life. Source: I'm a student pilot who flies the warrior in real life
@rymdskrotet
@rymdskrotet Жыл бұрын
Interesting News I did not know about. Thanks for telling us. I have found them to be quite heavy when landing and they do act a bitweird in their flight behaviors. So that's the reason then? I thought that just flights planes was going to be updated kind of often. Are they abandon or of the about to release new updates?
@lipslide101
@lipslide101 Жыл бұрын
@@rymdskrotet They said they would update the pipers but it's been a while already :(
@Wilber913
@Wilber913 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoying this 👌🏻. And a great price
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
It's a great plane.
@MojaveHigh
@MojaveHigh Жыл бұрын
Nice review, she's a beauty and definitely fits the Carenado label. Have you tried the new freeware Version 2 mod for the 152?! It is amazing, absolute payware quality, with a tablet, failures, circuit breakers, state saving, maintenance. I am kind of stunned.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
I'll have to check that out!
@rymdskrotet
@rymdskrotet Жыл бұрын
I love it.
@peterbassey9668
@peterbassey9668 Жыл бұрын
And where praythee can I get this?! Thanks in advance.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
@@peterbassey9668 you can buy it from the marketplace
@845SiM
@845SiM Жыл бұрын
On the fence with this one, lots of these planes already released going to watch your video and see what makes it better than the others
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
It's just a bit of variety really.
@thewheelspinreport
@thewheelspinreport Жыл бұрын
Do you use a bluetooth keyboard? Mine turns off after a certain time and it freezes the sim when it reconnects.
@yams900
@yams900 Жыл бұрын
This will be interesting, just started watching. Wonder if I need one more GA, it looks good, though
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
I thought the same (for about 30 seconds) lol
@Ngamer834
@Ngamer834 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a nice plane but I wouldn't bother myself already owning the Warrior 2 from Just flight seems to similar.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
It is similar - still good fun though :)
@volkerjansen3901
@volkerjansen3901 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful video and good commentary, just clicked the subscribe button. I cannot really tell all those pipers apart. Is there some significant difference to the Just Fligh Warrior II?
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
I'll have to get back in the Warrior to tell you. Doesn't the Warrior have an autopilot? The Archer II doesn't.
@AymeriX
@AymeriX 7 ай бұрын
Hi, Thank you for your video (and YT channel), I'm a french pilot but follow you for the quality of your video. I've a quick question: in Little nav map, what is the theme used in this video (appx 6:09) ? Thank you.
@CryptoBlog230
@CryptoBlog230 Жыл бұрын
I hope A2Ac172 will come to MSFS soon.
@jameslangford3613
@jameslangford3613 Жыл бұрын
Can't help but feel a bit disappointed in the lack of overhead switch panel for Carenado's version of the Archer. How else are us PA28 people supposed to feel like airline pilots??
@BHPilot82
@BHPilot82 7 ай бұрын
What PA28 airplane had overhead switches? Granted I haven't flown all of them IRL but the ones I had didn't have overhead switches. 🤔
@jameslangford3613
@jameslangford3613 7 ай бұрын
​@@BHPilot82 Oh, this was kinda a joke, but yes - some Archers have switches (battery, alternator, boost pump etc) above the windscreen. Not really "overhead", per-se
@ellonysman
@ellonysman Жыл бұрын
I always wanted the Cherokee 140 but bought the pa28 arrow...oh well
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
I'm sure they will all arrive in the simulator eventually :)
@yams900
@yams900 Жыл бұрын
Good educational video ! Do you have your PPL yet Jon ? What GPU are you using, such sharp picture!
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
No - no PPL :) GPU is NVIDIA 3080 - my monitor here is in 4K - I downrate it to 1080P in OBS for KZfaq.
@yams900
@yams900 Жыл бұрын
@@jonbeckett Very good picture, super sharp ! Thinking of upgrading 3070Ti but it won’t make me a better Pilot 👨‍✈️ :) We’ll see
@firefox3187
@firefox3187 Жыл бұрын
Many a circuit has been bashed and bumped in a PA-28 A2 without an auto pilot
@bcsimpilot3497
@bcsimpilot3497 Жыл бұрын
I see a brown panel...other times I see a black panel. Is that interchangeable for some reason Mr.Beckett?
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
The different liveries have different interiors.
@rymdskrotet
@rymdskrotet Жыл бұрын
Why do I want to get this Piper if I already have the Piper bundle from Just Flight? What's you unique about this special aircraft? Inte thought they wore quite similar? Is this in some way a less complicated plane or is it more powerful or....? Please let me know. 👍🏼
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
It flies more nicely - the JustFlight aircraft need an update :)
@rymdskrotet
@rymdskrotet Жыл бұрын
@@jonbeckett I see. Did not know that. How to tell if the aircrafts I own are using the latest flight model supported in FS2020? I actually got it, Im a bit confused about the closer view out of the front window....that big hump is weird. Are we looking down over the hood more than straight outside? Also...when lookning left and right true the side windoes (pov control on joystick used, not with mouse) you are VERY close to the window (especially right window). Its like you suddenly are the co-captain. I just wonder why Carenado choosed to do like that? (ive seen it in other planes from them as well). Thanks for a great channel btw! =) =)
@rymdskrotet
@rymdskrotet Жыл бұрын
@@jonbeckett Hmmm...forgot to tell you. Im not sure about the physics. I could fly upside down at low speed with very good flight caresteristics still there. Thats weird. Also...the engine seem to loose power, but never stalled. Would it do that in real life?
@CTTechGaming
@CTTechGaming Жыл бұрын
What is your views on this Vs the just flight version ? I have the JF and wonder if it's worth getting this or just sticking with that
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
It seems to behave a little more predictably. It's worth noting that it's not the same aeroplane though - the JustFlight version is the Archer III.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
The JustFlight Archer III has an autopilot too, if that's important to you.
@CTTechGaming
@CTTechGaming Жыл бұрын
@@jonbeckett just seen it's the warrior 2 that just flight do not the archer 2 so mainly engine differences
@VonHoffnung
@VonHoffnung 5 ай бұрын
What issues come from the PMS50 750nx?
@droge192
@droge192 Жыл бұрын
"It's a nice warm day so it's debatable whether we'll need the fuel pump" - I think you are getting confused with choke, in a carburreted aircraft engine. The weather and temps have no bearing on the use of fuel pump. In the real aircraft (I have 200hrs in an Archer of this generation), you would use the fuel pump for engine start - with mixture and thrrottle set to full - until you see a positive reading on the fuel pressure. You then reduce the throttle to an inch, and turn over. Without the fuel pump, it will take a long time for the mech pump to get fuel into the cylinders, and although it would probably start eventually, you'd have 10-15 secs turning over of the starter.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
I meant the fuel pump :) Several of the aircraft talk in their checklists about using the boost pump in adverse weather conditions (cold) to start the engine. Good to get the perspective of a real pilot on this though. I don't think any of the aircraft properly simulate engine management - but I think that's more to do with the simulator at the moment, than the aircraft themselves. I'll do a video about it at some point :) (as soon as we get a really accurately modelled engine)
@BHPilot82
@BHPilot82 7 ай бұрын
Yup, you need the fuel pump on for starting, climbing, switching tanks and landing. Carb heat on when landing.
@phillp7777
@phillp7777 5 ай бұрын
how u get a Piper Warrior on MSFS Fx ? does it come w it ? or gotta get via Carenado ?
@-caesarian-6078
@-caesarian-6078 2 ай бұрын
Just flight makes a Piper Warrior 2 for MSFS, it costs $46. There are no Warriors or other Cherokee-likes in the base game.
@kohheiva
@kohheiva Жыл бұрын
To be compared to the Justflight's one.
@timothystockman7533
@timothystockman7533 Жыл бұрын
Does the electric elevator trim work?
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
I think so :)
@antonioiozzi9171
@antonioiozzi9171 Жыл бұрын
Acro with a Piper Archer? Forget it. The Archer, like almost all Pipers, is a flying brick, made for flying from A to B in a stright libe with a very, very stable aircraft. Nothing more. I don't know why simmers pretend to do acro with every plane. In RL you do acro with very few one. A tonneaux with an Archer I believe is mostly impossible and if you try it probably tgere us nkt a secknd chance. I have fliwn an Archer knly twjce but it is so heavy .... only a C172 is prkbably havier... simple easy to fly aircrafts .
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
We're just finding out how the aircraft reacts in unusual attitudes. While you're obviously not supposed to spin most aircraft, it's good to know what's going to happen if the situation ever occurs.
@jessicaschneider2979
@jessicaschneider2979 9 ай бұрын
How much money is it on msfs on Xbox
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett 8 ай бұрын
Look in the marketplace, and find out :)
@shanesdiy
@shanesdiy Жыл бұрын
I watched a video today by "Q8Pilot" posted 5 days ago with some excellent tips on reducing or eliminating stuttering. Titled "5 New Performance Tips for Microsoft Flight Simulator". Might want to have a look at that for some things to check.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Жыл бұрын
Yeah - I've done those things in the past - stuttering is a completely different problem - this is outright freezing. I think it's just down to specific hardware combinations.
@shanesdiy
@shanesdiy Жыл бұрын
Oh well, it was worth a shot. Thanks for the videos!
@johnmaguire2185
@johnmaguire2185 Жыл бұрын
I’m a new simmer and purchased the Seneca. Once I got into the real details I was a bit disappointed. On the surface push to start pull to stop it was OK.
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