This is why many quality players in college drop out of soccer and start working on their careers...

Love how you keep it 100 percent real with these videos. Players need to know stuff like this to be able to weigh the pros and cons of chasing their dreams.

You are the most honest soccer KZfaqr out there. This is why I love you a lot! Thank you for always bringing the real facts about the game.

Lol love the shade thrown at RGV my dude

This is completely true the way that professional players aren’t allowed to unionize as well is another problem and i definitely think something has to be done to pay players a live able wage

The most open KZfaqr on the Net by far. So many other players would never share this information. Thank you for shedding light and showing the reality for us trying to make it. Id consider going to America to try and sign a contract and this is a great video to show what livin costs would look like 👏🏾👏🏾

Most of the professional soccer players need a second job in order to have a family. It is just a small percentage of players that become millionaires. I really think that it is important to know and this is why school is really important. A career doesn’t last for a long time.

Thank you so much for the information it’s helpful.🙏🏾

Spence with another hot drop! 💯

I can’t wait to see you play more and make it big and then watch you on TV and see how far you’ve made it

Thats barely more than what I was making working at Walmart

Thank you for the video!

I really appreciate your honesty

Love this content! A lot that I didn’t know .

Good stuff. Thanks for sharing. In baseball minor league players live on a dream and shoestring budget traveling the USA, most never make it to the big leagues. No regrets. Chase that dream. Minor league soccer is just getting started in USA. Needs guys like you to build it up and make things right for those that follow. Fight the good fight. Do the right thing. No regrets. Keep it going!

Always professionally done 🔥keep it up Spencer

Great video, I think this should be highlighted more. Being a "professional" sounds cool but the reality is that many players do not make enough money to support a family. You make more money working your average job. The problem with this is that the market is not big enough. Many people don't watch the USL and so these clubs have no funds to even pay decent salaries to players.

my g be preaching facts

Intro hard 🔥

And parents be paying several thousand of dollars to send their kids in a soccer academy

Good vid Spencer

Spot on Spencer. Heck I made way less 😂 my contract was camp money ( 8 weeks back to back) special appearances, ( birthday parties) ext. camp all day in hot sun 8-3 then get to training 4:30 -6:30 . I was spent . But I did it because I loved the guys I was with that did camp with me ( most were half day of course) and being older at time (35) I was excited to be given the opportunity to train and play mostly exhibitions and other out reach matches. Memories have Price tag . Someone will pick u up that has a brain and sees what u are .

Wow very informative

All US clubs need to privatize ownership and there needs to be promotion and relegation and be owner by big money people. Players wouldn’t need a second job to survive 😭

Everyone is saying $700 per week. The contract says $700 FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON!! He says that’s 3-4 months. So for a 4 month season, that’s $175 per month. Unreal

This is a great video. Very informative. In answer to your question, I don't see the low pay as a human rights issue. Accepting a contract with the club was a choice, and the decision was made knowing what the club was offering. Is it a living wage? No. But they obviously believe that they can find people who are willing to play for that amount of money. And so far, they are right. Good luck on your journey. I wish you much success.

Unfortunately not just here Stateside as well. Even some of the top division clubs in Latin America require a lot of effort for little pay. Playing in the lower divisions also usually means less pay too, as most players are just trying to take whatever opportunity they have at the moment in order to hopefully propel their careers to bigger clubs/higher pay. You very much have to love what you do in order to play professionally--especially in the lower realms. I will say, however, that L.A. Force not offering its players insurance is pretty lousy on their part. Hope you can find a new club soon and a better one at that. We're rooting for you man!

Im shocked!! Actually kinda happy that I didn't sign with a USL/NISA team back when I was at trials in 2019 after my college career.... Just signed a contract in Norway and I am getting paid more than this + an apartment! Did they at least give you housing?! or was that all on you as well?!

The realist man I’ve ever seen but another video idea could be how much do other leagues pay in Europe or Asia or South America

Great video Spencer. Being a footballer 1st and a youtuber 2nd, are you worried that these sort of videos could hamper future opportunities ? for example teams being afraid of being "exposed".

I don't entirely think that the low pay is a human rights issue per say, because the player isn't being forced to sign the contract and is completely free to walk away. But I do think that better wages and benefits for players is something that should be improving. I think we judge these lower leagues pretty harshly but lower league soccer, (especially in America) has a lot less people watching, which means a lot less money. Add on top of that ridiculously long government shutdowns and fan restrictions, its very difficult for lower pro teams to make hardly any money at all. Younger leagues like NISA and the NWSL need more time to build a larger fan base before the financial situation gets any better.

Shout out Bob!

It’s actually wild that it’s allowed for teams to pay this little. This is your livelihood. People move away from their families, live all alone, for what. Breadcrumbs

“Not gonna name clubs” ... *drops logo* lmaoooo

I get paid the same working at walmart, and I’m in high school

If the US implemented a relegation and promotion system in their sports this would help the wages and the quality of football

Same goes for coaches but it's often take it or the job won't exist. Not going to get paid more

Can't really say if Spencer's contract is unethical or ethical.... unless we can get any idea of how much LA Force actually generates in Revenue. Like he said, it's COVID season. No fans. The club might be barely surviving. If this is the case, how are they supposed to provide more salary to their players?

I personally think it's easy to play for Usl and nisa... the players are all generic w no flare to make a club pay them more than $2500... i just graduated college and I trialed in bundesliga 2 and I can say that level is very fast and difficult to keep up with if you were never exposed to it. But being there for 2 weeks only, I developed so fast an just coming back to America was a cake walk. Every team I have played, I have never seen someone as or more technical than me. Only in germany is where I saw that

Come to South East Asian if you can. At least some clubs pay you better then so called League 2 or League 3 in US

Bro I know Sunday league players who make more money playing in random leagues or random weekends tournaments. Over in VA we have luis Suarez older brother paolo Suarez showing up on sundays to our local league. We also have Andy najars brothers playing in the same league with. There’s many ex pro Central Americans playing all over the DMV area.

5:13 😂 cheeky

They should change it to semi progressional leagues. This sort of salary is equivalent to step 1, 2 and 3 in England. I know players earning 100 per game at leagues below that as well

That’s why you should have an agent that can negotiate higher salary and higher bonuses

Its basic business, unfortunately very few people watch NISA games so it brings in very little revenue. I dont think anyone aspiring to go professional should aim for NISA or USL, those leagues should only be a stepping stone for the MLS, where you can actually make a living off of the income.

In England division 8 can be making £700 a month , crazy when u think of it

This is no different to anywhere else. The difference to everywhere else is the they sign their first pro-contracts at 15 or 16 years-old, not 22 or 23. Tyler Adams is 22 but because he signed a pro contract at 16, instead of going to college, he's making $1.2 million a year in the Bundesliga, when he could have been graduating college.

5:09 jack blake having little bit of beef🤣🤣

I understand your frustrations regarding your salary, but I would like to know where the money you want to be paid is. Considering the fact that some clubs folded due to the pandemic, and all clubs are experiencing a loss in revenue, where is the money you request to be compensated coming from?

Spencer let me give you a tip. Go to Singapore. It's a small league with a lot of money being passed around for the level they're playing at. They only accept a 2-3 foreign players per team, but trust me, the pay is too high for the level they play at.

So no one gonna catch what Spence did with the editing on saying he isn't naming names of a club paying someone nothing but flashed a club name lol

Okay, the salary expectations I had, was far worse than I expected 🤦‍♂️

What is your main source of income if u don't mind hinting

How do they get around minimum wage laws?

Now what will be next team you're gonna sign

That's wild, amateur players in Australia get more than that

National league which is 6th division can get up to 1000 a week

only just seen this now, but like $700 over a season is ridiculous. That isn't PROFESSIONAL SOCCER. that's like what guys at semi pro (train 1/2 per week, play on Saturdays) in Englands bottom semi pro leagues. Thats insane that's the case in America and a 'PRO' team based in los Angelas ( always seemed questionable when a 'pro' team in a city like LA can't get a sponsor?!?

My personal opinion on this is yea the pay you are making is not livable, but there are multiple things that need to be looked at on both sides of the pedestal. USL and NISA teams are basically the minor league teams in soccer for MLS, like minor league baseball teams for the MLB. At these clubs you're trying to do one of three things: 1.) Make it to the pros one day or 2.) Looking to play with the remaining career you have left in regards to retiring or 3.) Just playing because you have fun doing it. Like other minor league teams in other sports you are expected to have another job outside of this. That is the American way at the moment. Does it suck you cannot get paid a livable wage doing that, yea it does. I personally feel players could get a livable wage, but that isn't going to be for a long time. Soccer in America needs to change but also grow a larger fan base, be more competitive. Once that happens then I can see things changing where USL teams and NISA teams can pay their players a lot better. Unfortunately in this time we see the world transitioning where people are working more than one job nowadays. So who knows if higher wages will be met ever. In regards to the Women's soccer comment you had made. You can compare the two, you can only get what your team is making revenue wise. You cannot base earnings solely on how a player or team does, revenues need to be put into that as well. More people watched the super bowl over the Women's World Cup Final. You need to have a fan base & generate revenue. But that doesn't mean that one day they can be paid because they could. But you have to go about it the right way, you cannot force it.

What were the training commitments like at this level? Is it reasonable to expect a player could work a part time job?

This is more money than 85% of the players here in Brazil

They need to cover rent on top of paying a livable wage. That is ridiculous

You have to remember that a majority of Americans don’t like soccer and not that many people even watch MLS. Football is king here and even in football there is really only one league that players get paid well in. COVID really killed soccer here because people don’t even watch MLS on tv that much, most of their revenue is ticket sales.

The reality is D3 soccer in the US is basically semi-pro in England. Just because you call something 'professional' doesn't mean it actually is.

The pay is pretty shockingly low. It doesn't quite seem right and there's no way for anyone to make a living doing that. But with no fans last season and not a huge amount of fans in general I can imagine it's hard to pay much more. Is it a human right thing? Not a chance. It's your choice to play, no one owes you anything. It's a privilege to play. However, that being said I do believe teams use that to probably give players less than they deserve. If the league ever wants to attract more fans long-term they do need to encourage talented players to stay with them and make the teams more professional. US Soccer really needs to allow a second division that pays much more. If these third division teams can't pay more they should offer something beyond money, they should give a great experience and work to give each player opportunities for groth. Maybe they do but I suspect they need to do better.

Did you get housing as well spencer?

you played with YEISON Esquivel last season? winger // mid

I definitely don’t think it’s a human rights violation at all. USL and even more so NISA don’t get nearly as much revenue as other countries’ lower leagues get. I’d you were to get paid more money, then the leagues would struggle financially even more than they already do.

How much are these clubs making?

Played 4th division in Cyprus!!!! Nearly Amateur, and i was getting paid 500$ monthly. This guy is getting 750$ all season in his prime Bro, just fly out lol

Same thing with minor league baseball

$700 for a whole season is insane holy shit 🤦🏿‍♂️

Does the 2k a week include housing or nah?

Just realising I was earning 500.-/month playing 4th Switzerland division and you playing NISA this is nothing

The owner of the club had all this bread. Banked a team in all 3 leagues that no one really cares about and memberships to planet fitness 😂

Just because 3rd tier American teams say they are pro doesn’t mean they will pay you like it. America doesn’t have enough football support or talent to have 3 pro tiers. You are playing semi-pro. Professional means you can live off it. Low leagues like usl 2 and nisa are just saying they are “pro” to attract players. When in reality they get paid less then semi pro players in other countries.

This is more Semi Pro Environment then Professional

I love you spencer but how can it be a professional contract if it doesn’t pay enough to live off? In that case, basically every semi pro player in Europe or Asia could call themselves professional. Interesting talking point

Bob gotta be the cheapest billionaire ever

Pause you telling me pro football player get paid less than teacher???

go

Was that a jab at rgv toros lmao

Hey Spencer, I don’t disagree with you, but the question is where is that money gonna come from? You and I know football is a business and looking at some NISA clubs I can see why players are paid so low, even before COVID most NISA games have worse attendance than college. If you could do the research behind the revenue clubs are getting and how it is distributed, then your argument would be complete. If not, your argument is socialistic and not feasible until more eyes land on US lower tier pro soccer.

Personally I feel like in the US they seem to only care about the mls and put most of the money there instead of looking at the lower leagues and seeing how they could help those clubs grow

The American football system is shit. Always has been always will be. In Aus, if you're earning less then 750 a week, you're offered an apartment as compensation. America, is,was, always will be shit.

Wow Spenc, this is really shit from LA Force. I play in USL and our pay and bonus structure is very different and much higher than $700 a month, they did you dirty thats just disrespectful

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