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@FlyboyHelosim 3 жыл бұрын
That flaming star has nothing to do with the devil. The devil star is a 5-pointed pentagram, this one is a 9-pointed nonagram... a point representing each member of the band. Yes there's nine members in Slipknot.
@shawnwacek6791 3 жыл бұрын
100% true
@KatieKatastrophee 3 жыл бұрын
And even then, the 5 pointed star is only "Devil worshiping" when it's inverted. Otherwise it's just a pentagram often used in wicca :D
@peculiarcrab5388 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry bro I already sent the comment and I realised you explained it the same way I did
@FlyboyHelosim 3 жыл бұрын
@@peculiarcrab5388 No worries. I'm not someone who's bothered about similar comments. It's all education.
@FlyboyHelosim 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesM99 What's this about Sid?
@michellec9368 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a 60 year old lady & still one of my all time favorite bands & they put on an awesome show to boot! Hope this is the first of many for you.
@ir0nfist447 2 жыл бұрын
i love you michelle
@mayawisham5435 2 жыл бұрын
So its official slipknot is grandma approved
@davidmcnulty8181 Жыл бұрын
Members of Slipknot aren't much younger than you, Michelle
@Lion126TSE Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the other day that when our generation moves into the old folks homes, the way old folks today have Sinatra etc playing in their rooms, we'll have Maiden, Slipknot, Ghost, etc lol
@TanyaQueen182 Жыл бұрын
I'm 47 and same.
@SparkimusPrime 3 жыл бұрын
This is what they’ve said about the masks: “The masks let each individual represent his true self, free of constraints like social politeness, shared mannerisms, or conventional morality. They're a way to liberate the self, and push the energy and aggression of their performances to the forefront, without holding back. As Taylor says, "The mask for me has always been that physical representation of the person inside me who just never had a voice. It allows me to be me... I'm showing you more than I've ever revealed." Crahan goes on to say that people are always "looking for a better face" and presenting themselves in manicured, vain ways rather than solidifying their senses of self.”
@SleeplessMomma 3 жыл бұрын
Carrie, girl you are so on it. 👍🏻✌🏼
@aaronbrowne6370 3 жыл бұрын
This is getting freaky ..lol maggot an HOG... Damn Girl
@cerebralfailure8804 3 жыл бұрын
early on it had the added benefit of giving them anonymity, they could move around most cities and in the crowds of fans without being recognized, I think Craig/Pinhead is the only one who still maintains that though, all the rest have their photos out there I believe
@michaelduran9660 3 жыл бұрын
maggot for life 🤘🏿
@redsnorlax1945 3 жыл бұрын
And the third reason is because they wanted people to buy the music because of the music not because of their faces or persona
@charlescollier3167 3 жыл бұрын
The singer Corey Taylor actually has a beautiful singing voice when he isn’t going hardcore. Check out their song “Snuff”, very slow song and he sings great on it
@williamswiniuch7527 3 жыл бұрын
The acoustic version though. The video while great is very distracting
@wheresatari668 3 жыл бұрын
And Vermillion part 2.
@maria.sam1368 3 жыл бұрын
Omg, you guys need to listen/see his live concert in London! It's the most beautiful thing ever!!!! 🥰😍🤩
@karenlandon5332 3 жыл бұрын
Snuff is their heaviest song
@LT.B18 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree!!
@user-rk7fc9se2z 2 жыл бұрын
RIP joey jordison a legend on the drums one of the best and most technical ever
@NPC-nn4qe 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was shocked when I found out about that. He was my favorite of the band.
@musicbeast_yt 2 жыл бұрын
Rip Joey and Paul
@MrBCKaraoke 3 жыл бұрын
Metal is the best genre to express emotional distress we all feel from time to time.
@chriscavatica2884 3 жыл бұрын
Spit it Out live from download 2009. That one video gives you a very, very clear idea of what kind of energy they bring and what seeing them is all about.
@sonyda84 3 жыл бұрын
A must do reaction video.
@thomascardone4786 3 жыл бұрын
THIS!
@Blackdog06019 3 жыл бұрын
1000% this!!!! I've seen them live twice and the energy they bring out of the crowd is insane!!
@aether13x69 3 жыл бұрын
MUST DO!!!!
@BaBaBa-qc2pw 3 жыл бұрын
+++
@maestroblloyd 3 жыл бұрын
"Spit it Out" Live at Download 2009. The PERFECT example of the love/loyalty/talent/bars/and crowd control that this band has. 1000% you will not be disappointed!!!
@johnjarsma8775 3 жыл бұрын
They are a monster of a band. They consist of a vocalist, 2 guitarists, 2 custom percussionists, a main drummer bassist, a dj and a sample/effects guy. I understood the 9 point star represents each of the 9 band members.
@aaronbrowne6370 3 жыл бұрын
3 guitarist bass an two lead . 🤘🔥
@johnjarsma8775 3 жыл бұрын
@@aaronbrowne6370 2 guitarists mick Thompson and Jim root and 1 bassist allessandro venturella
@Butter-yb5by 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnjarsma8775 I was about to correct you. God damn. I miss Paul. I forget that he’s gone sometimes.
@johnjarsma8775 3 жыл бұрын
@@Butter-yb5by yeah, I almost typed out Paul too. It breaks my heart 3 of the 9 are no longer with the band.
@MakiMaki. 2 жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that from a purely musical point of view, half of the band is redundant - but it sure makes for an entertaining show.^^
@albertogonzalez8942 2 жыл бұрын
Hello guys it's Alberto González of Puerto Rico and Slipknot doesn't worship satan they just sing about everything bad that happens in the world. Thank you for showing these vídeos blessings and good evening.
@willdogon1874 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you must react to Slipknot Spit It Out Live at Download Festival 2009. This was a great reaction!
@kurakura5065 3 жыл бұрын
and then disasterpiece official live✌️
@comradeautismo 3 жыл бұрын
they should react to the studio versions first then live performances
@a8rcdave 3 жыл бұрын
Slipknot- the devil in I.
@markwillis675 3 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest bands of the last 20 yrs. Try "Before I forget," "Duality" or "Wait and bleed."
@samanthabarby489 3 жыл бұрын
Slipknot spit it out live at download 2009. Enjoyed this reaction 👍
@AlexBuhot 3 жыл бұрын
Came to say this!!!!
@jen.g. 3 жыл бұрын
100%!
@itsraid_bitchez8084 3 жыл бұрын
Slipknot is Wu Tang Clan of heavy metal they got nine members been in the game over 20 years they are legendary🐐🐐
@joejacobsen6822 Жыл бұрын
There is lots going on. They have 9 members. And they are all amazing. I recently saw them in concert. Still crushing it. I'll go back for sure.
@christymayberry6975 3 жыл бұрын
Spit it Out Live from Download 2009 you NEED to do that video next. You will get the feel of how they are in concert. I saw them in concert and they are BY FAR the best act I have seen in concert in my lifetime, and I have been to A LOT!! They are non-stop, all over the stage through the WHOLE thing
@southbayspike 3 жыл бұрын
They did one video without their masks on. It’s called Before I Forget. You never get a full look at their faces, but you do see them in part. It’s good stuff, and very energetic.
@SilentBob731 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely one of the greatest Metal Bands of the 21st Century. These guys pretty much a non-stop adrenaline rush. ✊🤘
@jonathanc8560 3 жыл бұрын
gotta love the percussion they bring to each track! saw slipknot twice and yes the pit is insane!
@blopblop7311 3 жыл бұрын
The breakdown in THIS track is soooo fucking dope!!
@SparkimusPrime 3 жыл бұрын
You gonna learn today 😂🖤🤘🏻 You guys should check out Snuff by them. And then the acoustic version 🖤🖤🖤 (You remember that’s the same guy from the Falling In Reverse Drugs video, right?)
@DevonXlee 3 жыл бұрын
LOOOOVE snuff.
@mikehess7687 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@wolf2966 3 жыл бұрын
Not the one where he cries though we’ll have to explain one of the safest moments in the bands history that day broke my heart
@cristianvarelasuarez8911 3 жыл бұрын
I like how they keep on calling it rock when it’s metal
@vlinnstone6919 2 жыл бұрын
But it IS rock lmao. Metal is a subgenre of Rock.
@onestgermain 3 жыл бұрын
And there, is always a message! Thank you for the reaction! No devil worshiping! God and Devil live within ourselves!
@DSTowerRat 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 46.. missed this the first time around.. well.. I didn't miss it I just didn't get it. Now I'm super stoked to see ya'll reacting to this. The thing about moshes is your in it with everybody, friends, strangers, every mosh I have been in I was bleeding and happy afterwards. One of my favorites. Thanks for the post.
@matthewbrannan9116 3 жыл бұрын
Slipknot makes me feel the same way, thats why I listen to them when im mowing the grass or doing physical task outside, makes me wanna just break stuff. Yall should really do a reaction to the leads singer Corey Taylors acoustic version of SNUFF. No mask and the song is super deep.
@hitman9198 3 жыл бұрын
This song will always have a special place in my heart. This was my best friend's favorite song.
@TheeIronJedi 2 жыл бұрын
Not only are they amazing musicians but they are also great human beings too.
@matthewmcglothlin9600 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, slipknot singer Corey Taylor is also the singer of stone sour back in the day, which is almost a night and day difference in what he does now in slipknot so he can hit low guttural growls to high melodic singing or anything between, they also have or had the most drums or percussion in a band for a while and yeah masks are their thing
@feardabrood 3 жыл бұрын
Corey Tailor, their lead singer is one of the best song writers out there. Check out his other band Stone Sour. They are more hard rock rather than slipknot metal, but both are great. And if you want a totally polar taste of Slipknot listen to Vermillion Part 2.
@williamwilburn7924 3 жыл бұрын
Vermillion Pt 2 is one of my favorite songs....very mellow and beautiful. Definitely not a metal song....just an acoustic guitar and great lyrics.
@yene9438 3 жыл бұрын
fuck corey tailor dude is a Piece of shit that destroyed slipknot. This band use to be the absolute gods of metal now they are fucking trash and that dumb fuck got rid of one of the best drummist ever to live
@TheIsaacFrazier 3 жыл бұрын
Taylor?
@mercylavigne 3 жыл бұрын
@@yene9438 ?
@Natures..Sacrifice 3 жыл бұрын
@@yene9438 slipknot is Gods of metal? Newbie right? Also Taylor so whats about Clown? Jordison is fucked his fucking legs so
@steventaylor6821 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate ur guys reaction to some heavy metal, that’s technically the genre lol. This is my world of music haha. I never expected u guys to react to this stuff and u didn’t throw any hatred at it at all and it’s not an easy genre to enjoy in all honesty. I grew up on heavy metal lol. U really gained alot of respect from me for this, so seriously thank you ❤️
@MacMc691 2 жыл бұрын
The look on her face at times is priceless. lol I remember seeing one of Slipknot's CD covers in a store years ago and thought the same thing... Now, fifteen years later, still one of my favorite bands.
@rawrsinji 3 жыл бұрын
The star you were seing is actually The Nonagram (9 Point Star). It's a symbol that Slipknot drew by themself and its a symbol of unity with each other, it's the symbol of 9 people. Each point represents each band member.
@mpz2068 11 ай бұрын
You should definitely watch some of their drum cam videos. Joey Jordison R.I.P. was one of the greatest drummers ever. On one of their tours they had his kit on a pedestal and would lift him up in the air, tilt him sideways, and spin it around while he is strapped in his chair. I saw that at my first ever concert and it was mind-blowing!
@jimwells768 3 жыл бұрын
That was a great analogy and you are so right Rock and metal moves you it moves me you definitely feel it once you give it a chance not so bad huh 🤘🤘🤘
@joshuahammond1585 3 жыл бұрын
Such a dark lovely black lagoon of music from start to finish ! Enjoy the ride down and hold on to anything you can ! LMAO 🤣
@nickthepeasant 3 жыл бұрын
Saw them live in Feb 2020 (just before lockdown). Wasn't in the moshpit (too old for that noise) but was easily one of the greatest musical experiences of my life - no one in that huge crowd was still or quiet for the whole set, every song was played haaard!
@bhuntin08 3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to rock/metal reactions, feel free to grab the lyrics. Sometimes, certain lyrics have double meaning when you hear it but have a more specific meaning when you read them. I can't think of a great example off-hand but trust me, pulling up lyrics on your phone or something would be super helpful for those types of videos. Especially if you can't understand what they're saying when they scream it.
@seanmcnally5560 2 жыл бұрын
Never been a fan of Slipknot. But, this song is so incredibly visceral and touches on our primal emotions. Gets you really pumped.
@dancin2techno 3 жыл бұрын
Most honest reactions I've watched and found in awhile. Y'all are great. Keep on!
@TheDarkangelazrael 3 жыл бұрын
Asia feeling that breakdown! lol LOVE IT!
@alphar1058 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this, this was a bold choice for your first slipknot song lol they have some like Killpop that would ease you into it a little better. Keep up the great reactions!!!
@jamescoleman8954 3 жыл бұрын
Going to see them this fall, can’t wait, so glad concerts are back
@patrickallen4518 3 жыл бұрын
Yall are awesome! Great vibe. Have fun listening to more Slipknot. They will throw you for a loop every cd. Had to subscribe. Keep it up, yall!
@gotafgc 3 жыл бұрын
People who really like music are listening to a lot of different genre ! The energy Slipknot get out is incredibly insane and the community is really nice
@alexisonfire223 3 жыл бұрын
That drop D,drop C and drop B tunings always react to adrenalin system 😄
@kassandrariemersma7902 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen these guys twice and they Rock live it is so awesome and there's a lot of audience participation
@thorkildecliveland6289 2 жыл бұрын
I read the comments (the first half dozen or so) and see most of your questions have been answered with great knowledge and detail. Metal is (most of the time) expressing rage about the wrongs of this world. It is aggression,. anger,. energy,. release,.. and that's why us metal heads love it so. The band Slipknot are all very cool and actually very mild manner dudes in person. They are performance artists. Just like Stephen Kings lays his art on 'paper',. they do it through music. Except 75% of the time,.. if not more,. the songs are about real world issues. RIP Joey Jordison (the drummer) who just died last month. A real loss to our community.
@dontreadonme5331 7 ай бұрын
Glad I revisited this! Love you guys!!
@dcwriter6780 3 жыл бұрын
I could not listen to this song for years and come back to it and sing along to every lyric off heart aha, crazy the effect they had on my youth 😂😂
@Bishop5k 2 жыл бұрын
A buddy of mine was a roadie and he told me a story about him and the guys talking with bigger bands at the time and these little kids came in nerdy as can be, very polite saying they were one of the bands, my boy told me later them nerds came out in full masks and rocked the place better than anyone, them kids were slipknot
@benyboy2902 3 жыл бұрын
Listen to their songs ‘wait and bleed’ or ‘duality’ both are very good.
@imying72 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing better than listening to new listeners wax philosophical about the effect of music on the soul. Awesome. Good shit.
@sconaldo7 2 жыл бұрын
I seem them live at Sonisphere a festival here in the UK and they played psychosocial and just the chorus hit "and the rain will kill us all" it was unreal as it began to pour down
@689moose 3 жыл бұрын
The masks mean different things to everyone. For me, it was putting the focus on the music, instead of the person performing it. And of course, they are not devil worshippers, they actually have an uplifting message, and a belonging to a community that some people could not find in their personal lives.
@kellyhouse4263 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! Can't wait for the next one! Love Slipknot 🤟🔥
@traviscarroll7876 3 жыл бұрын
with Asias comment about thier mosh pits I would recommend watching the Live at Download version of Spit It Out that will give you a great depiction of what the pits are like
@claytonwilliams7445 3 жыл бұрын
Yo I got two tickets for y’all at Knotfest in ATL this year. I just subbed and would love for y’all to see them alive - it’s an ENTIRE experience.
@mistercoughy 2 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of "Reaction to Psychosocial" videos out there. Yours is by far the best. You both are extremely charming, insightful and funny as hell. Your comments and reactions are clearly genuine and heartfelt. Really well done.
@JohnAdams-nb2ox 3 жыл бұрын
Info time: slipknot has been around since the late 90's. They started out 1 thru 8, wearing jumpsuits with barcodes and of course the only way to I'd them was by their number 1 thru 8. Their first album with Paul Gray was Iowa, which is where they originated I do believe. They had a tragic event happen: the sudden passing of Paul Gray which Slipknot:the Gray chapter comes in. The video Goodbye sums it up. Very emotional video. It also shows you what being true brothers is all about. Check it out.
@TrojanRabbit521 3 жыл бұрын
Live Slipknot… Spit it Out live @ download! Rap, growls, singing…chaos… crowd nuts, flames, spinning drums. Gotta check it out
@cheriwarren4524 3 жыл бұрын
Seen them live man it was amazing energy!
@artistsodyssey 2 жыл бұрын
The music is pure chaos, the images and mask reflects that in art and the masks are who they are at their darkest moments. In the beginning you got a mask and a number to identify. RIP Joey, the drummer.
@jeffclendenin6770 Жыл бұрын
I love watching your reactions. You guys are very intelligent in your analysis of music and movies are your personalities are just awesome.
@rykvos6764 3 жыл бұрын
Good on you for stepping out of your comfit zone and exploring some bands you have not heard. 👍
@alexolivier5509 3 жыл бұрын
also corey the vocalist and Jim root one of the guitarist were in band called stone sour
@hitman9198 3 жыл бұрын
A great band. Bother is amazing
@scottdavidson1024 Жыл бұрын
Laughing at Asia’s face… lmfaoooo so confused. Great reaction both 🤙
@YaHKaB_WaRYaL_YaSHaRaL 3 жыл бұрын
These dudes have tons of rocking music! Corey Taylor, the singer. Also has Stone Sour & you both would love their music also!
@brianbash 3 жыл бұрын
I love yall getting it at the breakdown! 🙌
@mikejm7004 3 жыл бұрын
Metal is meditation for me. ✌🏼
@lh1678 2 жыл бұрын
Slipknot is from the same place as where I was born Des Moines, IA. I still have relatives in Urbandale(suburb) where they came out from.
@wesmartindale677 3 жыл бұрын
Whoo slipknot... big rabbit hole. And whoop celebrate those mavs.
@ozzzzy52 2 жыл бұрын
Rock, but metal in particular, has helped me through my angsty teenage years like you have no idea. I always had difficulty expressing my inner thoughts and feelings outward, and the intricate or just F you kinda lyrics in metal, combined with pure primal raging sounds was SUCH an outlet. I always turned that shit way up and just go bonkers in my bedroom. I always exited that room like a new person :) Slipknot has been there for me since 99, and will be with me till I die.
@thechad1760 3 жыл бұрын
Ive always seen it as my release of dark energy. It builds in us all... Hurt anger disrepect rejection... This style has always been above all. Brutally real in your face pure emotion.
@kennethlowe5407 3 жыл бұрын
Slipknot live show will have all your senses on fire. So much going on between visuals and music. Cory Taylor there singer write songs for many bands. Even if you don’t mosh it still energizing.
@babybullreview 3 жыл бұрын
You all are good.....i can tell you that the band is 100% legit. Not satanic, just good entertainment. Their concert should be on your bucket list.
@luiswiley372 3 жыл бұрын
Been a Slipknot fan since 1997 with MFKR, seen them several times and they don’t disappoint! Hails 🤘🏽🤘🏽
@candacecarey5782 3 жыл бұрын
They’re amazing. And Corey Taylor can actually really sing-not just growl😂. Check out Dead Memories. His voice is awesome. ♥️
@blaskostoneisded Жыл бұрын
The star thing is called the nonogram...each of the star points are meant to represent all 9 members of the band, and the circles are strength, loyalty, Unity and friendship.
@localhoast2009 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen them 8 times and they keep getting better every time I see them. Go to one of there show's. They put on such an insane concert. And Cory sings like that thee entire time. I have no idea how he does it
@theidajawho 3 жыл бұрын
The "Maggots" got you on the info tip I see, I say "Spit It Out" LIVE Download! TY guys, God Bless!
@Skullzrapper 3 жыл бұрын
Check out something from Slipknot's first album! Their song Eyeless is so damn good! Nothing beats their first 3 albums for me! But Joey, the drummer, is imo one of the best drummers to ever do it! Great reaction guys! 💯🔥❤
@Sneakacist 3 жыл бұрын
Joey was honestly one of the best parts of the band, new guy's good too but he doesn't have the same feeling
@Skullzrapper 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sneakacist I've only heard a couple songs off the new album and they're good for sure but I hear that! Joey's just next level!
@hugo2L 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like she understood metal as a whole from the first breakdown :) so cool to see that
@benjamincollins8046 3 жыл бұрын
Yalls reaction is awesome. You guys seem to like it. It's awesome seeing people's reaction when they hear Slipknot and most rock period. It's like oh shit this is awesome
@TanyaQueen182 Жыл бұрын
This and The Devil in I are tied for my fav Slipknot songs. Love them so much.
@austinboyd2517 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody's doing something! Yep! Madness. Just how I like it.
@carlroza102 3 жыл бұрын
Yes they definitely bring entertainment and creativity to there visual aspect😎
@geoffkeil3135 2 жыл бұрын
I listen to ALL types of music genres ...... RnB, Rock, Hip Hop, Slow Jams, Reggae, Metal, Rap, Funk, Soul. What I want to hear depends on the mood or situation I'm in at the time. I usually listen to FERAL music like Slipknot when I want the blood pumped up, to "unleash the beast", etc. (eg. morning wake up, hard core exercising, etc). Some people I know would call this "angry music" ..... I don't see a problem with that. Everyone needs to release some aggression every so often ..... cut loose. Can't hurt to do it in a positive fashion by listening to some decent Thrash Metal music like SLIPKNOT.
@BeyondTheTold 3 жыл бұрын
Asia... it's fun to watch you fall in love with it. It's clear you like that groove metal. Badass, guys! Now that you've found Corey... enjoy the StoneSour hole.
@djtrickd7819 3 жыл бұрын
Now you gotta check them out live ! “Spit it out “ live from download 2009 and “before I forget “ from Germany! Both great live performances!!
@m73jaredII 3 жыл бұрын
This just made my day so much better
@JT-wb9hl 9 ай бұрын
The drummer you were mentioning is Joey Jordison. Unfortunately, he passed away a few years ago. The drummer they have now is Jay Weinberg, Max Weinberg from Bruce Springsteen and the E Street bands son.
@hollow-point8690 3 жыл бұрын
When your listening to music that you may not be able to fully understand. It’s always good to look up the lyrics and do some research on the song. That way you can get a better understanding of it when you react to it! Because I didn’t really fall in love with metal until I understood the meaning behind it. But I’m glad your finally going down the rabbit whole as someone else mentioned,lol.
@edwardlee2475 3 жыл бұрын
These guys from my hometown.des moines iowa..rock on!!!!
@robertroelofs7131 2 жыл бұрын
Privacy and being succesfull is a great combo, you still have your privacy and can do anything you want! Without paparazzi harrassing you! Corey and Joey (R.I.P Joey Jordison!) were the ones that went into different project and mostly revealed them.
@dandi-setiawan622 3 жыл бұрын
I love SLIPKNOT
@ClayBuff 3 жыл бұрын
I got to see them in concert when they came to NC and they lifted up the drummer and drumset up like 30 feet in the air and turned him upside down still sitting in the drumset and he just keep playing upside down..it was pretty epic..and the mosh pit when wild...hahaha..oh and they are know to always be in mask
@donn513 3 жыл бұрын
For a lot of people, the visuals and theatrics of the band, can get in the way of the actual songs. They're pretty deep, and well written. Sometimes due to the cadence, the lyric videos help see more of the actual detail in the song writing. Fantastic band, very entertaining live. As others have said, the rabbit hole is deep. I also agree with Spit It Out - at Download, is a great way to see the energy. New to the channel here. Keep up the great work.
@geiroveesp6187 3 жыл бұрын
Cool that you are learning. Greetings from Norway.
@deborahsevi5729 3 жыл бұрын
I love that you understand The Pit. You guys slay. 😊❤
@jonathanc8560 3 жыл бұрын
first tattoo i got was a big slipknot S on my right calf in 2000!
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