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Let's be honest about this... this is the reaction everyone in the Target Audience audience has been waiting for.

Spock fixing his uniform just before talking with Kirk at the end gets me every time. This final moment of dignity before saying goodbye to his friend. "I have been, and always shall be, your friend."

As a Scotsman, I had the opposite reaction to Scotty's bagpipes than these guys did. They broke me. They totally broke me.

Ricardo Montalban gives the most epic, legendary performance as Khan here. I love this film for so many reasons, but every time I marvel at how much he just elevates the role to one of the best movie antagonists of all time.

Not sure which cut you're watching, but there's a cut that reveals early on why Scotty was so emotional at that trainee's death- it was his own nephew. The novelization takes it a step further and says Scotty was harder on him than all the other cadets BECAUSE it was his nephew, and that's why the kid stayed at his post.

There's a joke, I think made by Walter Koenig, that the reason Khan remembers him despite us never seeing him in the episode, is that Khan needed to use the restroom at some point before leaving the ship but Checkov on the lower decks was using it so Khan swore vengeance!

I like the fact that Khan and Kirk never met face to face, rather than forcing a scene. It felt... authentic.

Nimoy appeared on a British chat show prior to the release of Search for Spock and was asked if he appeared in the movie. He replied, it'd be a huge let-down if, at the end of the movie, Kirk just turned to camera and said "Well, we didn't find him."

Spock's death killed everyone in the theater. The whole packed house left the movie house -- sobbing --. Nimoy was very clear that he never wanted to play Spock again. It was the time in his life when he wrote his first autobiography entitled "I AM NOT SPOCK". It was only once he saw just how absolutely devastated the cinematic death of his character had left even casual fans that Nimoy re-evaluated his relationship to the role and the fandom, and then issued a follow-up autobiography titled "I AM SPOCK".

The "Genesis Device" video is the first FULLY CGI Rendered sequence in movie history!

When Harve Bennett was interviewed for the job of producer, he was asked "Can you make a movie for less than $44 million?" He replied "I can make FIVE movies for that ". Some of the sets are reworked from TMP, but every penny of that budget is up on the screen. The training sequence was made to offset the spoiler of Spock's death that has been leaked months before. This movie, more than TMP IMHO, ushered in the next chapter of Star Trek.

Fun fact: When Kirk's voice cracks at Spock's funeral, that wasn't just acting. Shatner really was moved by the scene and his voice caught there. They left it in. It was the perfect touch.

Spock's "solution" to the no win situation is such a great moment. Kirk has spent his career able to trick, gimmick and b.s. his way out of every situation, but Spock shows that sometimes the only solution is to sacrifice your own life, manhandle a starship engine back into functioning and save your ship and its crew.

Leonard Nimoy's "Space, the final frontier..." at the end gives me goosebumps every time

Ricardo Montalban was on a break from his television show Fantasy Island so they really only had him for about 2 weeks. So the script was written around his availability that's why he has no scenes directly with the rest of the cast. In addition to that Nicholas Meyer the writer-director really wanted to do a submarine style nautical battle. So that's why we have the final confrontation that we do.

“Who’s been holding up the damn elevator?” Best line indeed, cutting straight through that weird tension between Kirk and Saavik.

Spock’s death was a MASSIVE event at the time. Remember, no internet or social media so they were able to keep it under wraps. When the rumor started leaking out they added the beginning scene with his “death” to sort of a red herring throw people off. It was just stunning but Nimoy didn’t want to play Spock anymore but he changed his mind during the making of this movie. Reportedly, much of the crew was crying during Spock’s death scene.

I think what the film is most successful at is making all the human interactions finally feel deep, real and authentic. You actually believe these people are old comrades, friends, lovers, enemies, and it makes the universe feel more real than ever. The grittier effects and make-up add to this of course. I just love it.

The reason they keep coming back to the Kobayashi Maru is because the Kobayashi Maru is the entire theme of the movie. The point is how do you deal with the no win situation. How do you deal with death. As Kirk says, "It's a test of character."

William Shatner's voice cracking during the funeral gets me every time.

Even though I've probably seen this film 20 times, I still get tears in my eyes at the end!

You watched them in the correct order and it payed off. Kudos.

I saw this in theaters when it first came out. When Kirk's voice breaks during the eulogy, EVERYONE in the theatre I was in started crying. I was sitting in front of a row of women, and all of them were weeping. Even my own dad, who was a bit of a critic of Shatner's acting (my dad thought Shatner was the biggest ham ever), said that this was some fantastic acting.

One of my favorites of the movies. The emotional punch of losing Spock was so intense. Remember, when we saw this in theaters there was no next movie. So we really were shocked.

The way that this movie holds up over time is just incredible...it is so good on so many levels and in so many ways.💯👍 And a big part of it for me is the music, so... R.I.P. James Horner 😢

The Wrath of Khan... is a dish best served cold!

Merritt Butrick (Dr. David Marcus) was 23 years old in 1982. Assuming the same age for David Marcus, he would have been 5 or 6 at the time of the episode "Where No Man Has Gone Before" in which Gary Mitchell mentioned setting Kirk with "that blonde Lab technician" that Kirk "almost married". Many Trekkers consider that blonde lab tech to be Carol Marcus.

To see two big tough lads like you guys tear up and be so like choked up to the point of crying as we all are when we watch Spocks death and funeral scene shows exactly how well it was done. Excellent point re Bones, it would have been good to have seen him shed a tear. Good job on this one boys, as always.

You're absolutely right in saying that Nimoy only agreed to do this film if they killed his character off, much like Harrison Ford did with Han Solo. But while they were making the movie, Nimoy had such a good time and could tell it was going to be good, so he asked for some loopholes being written in to the plot that might allow him to come back, which they did on the fly. But when this movie came out, there was no ST III, there was no Spock, Nimoy was done. And we all were devastated.

Kirk's voice breaking at the funeral was my cue for the waterworks.

Fun Fact: In the novelization, Saavik was half-Vulcan / half-Romulan. It's kind of funny that you asked if she was Romulan when she first showed up.

This set the standard for Trek, they’ve been chasing that high ever since. I’ll never forget leaving the theater and saying “no way, they didn’t just kill Spock”.

The novelization gives some more backstory. The cadet that Scotty brings to the bridge is his nephew. But, more interesting, is Saavik’s backstory. She is a Vulcan Romulan hybrid, whom Spock rescued from a Romulan prison planet, and she became his protege. ( My fan theory, since disproven by subsequent movies, was she was Spock’s daughter, by the Romulan Captain in ‘The Enterprise Incident.’ )

For me, this is a "no-notes" movie. The story, characters, direction, cinematography, effects, sets, costumes, etc. are all spot on. The movie works as both a Star Fleet mission story and a character-driven story. I've seen it many times and still laugh, cry, and cheer at all the same points. I can understand the disappointment in not having Kirk and Kahn physically together in the same space, but I like the decision to make the final confrontation a battle of ships. Star Fleet is after all the "space navy" and not the "space army." And, it also plays to Kirk's strengths as the captain of a ship. I also like the introduction of Kirk's son as part of the character's arc. He's growing older and both looking ahead to what he still wants to do as well as looking back at what he gave up.

As you noticed, as did many fans at the time this movie was released, Chekov wasn't in the first season when "Space Seed" takes place so, how could he have met Khan? Walter Koenig used to like to tell a story to explain this discrepancy. He'd say that Chekov _was_ on the Enterprise at the time but, as a low ranking ensign, he was relegated to cleaning the latrines. Well, Khan developed a bad case of "Montezuma's Revenge" and one time when he was rushing to the toilet he literally ran into Chekov causing him to "soil himself" before he could get there. Khan's response? "I'll never forget your face!".

When Kirk makes his entrance and both of you guys were like, "Yeah, that's what we're talking about (or something like it)!" was awesome.

Chekov was probably on The Enterprise during Space Seed. He just hadn't been promoted to the bridge crew yet.

Allow me to share a somewhat long winded memory. At the close of 1982, my cousin Dave passed away. Our last exchange was at the end of a memorial party in honor of our grandfather. As I was about to leave, Dave had to ask me a question. "Do you remember all of the trivia questions we answered over the phone?" When we were in high school, he was staying at my house for summer vacation and we spent a lot of time listening to the radio. A premiere of Star Trek II was coming to our small town and they were giving tickets to the first caller who could correctly answer various questions about Star Trek. We won a total of four tickets. It was, we were told, the world premiere of the movie. It was released in my small town before it was released in the big cities. We took my mom and my sister. The theater was filled with nothing but die hard Star Trek fans. We all cheered when Kirk's crew lowered the shields on Khan's ship. And, of course, completely silent during the now famous final scenes. Possibly the best movie going experience I ever had. Dave and I both heard rumors that Spock would die. Neither of us told the other. We wanted it to be a surprise. As I left the party, I plumbed my memory for answers. "Who played Spock?" Everyone at the party knew that one. You didn't even have to be a Trekkie to know that one. "What was the name of Spock's father?" They were a little more impressed with that one. "What was the name of Spock's mother?" Yeah, I guess the radio station was lacking in imagination. But we couldn't think of the 4th question we answered. Maybe I will never know. It might be lost forever.

I saw this film opening weekend. I can tell you we were all shocked at the ending. My mother, a lifelong Trek fan, was beside herself with grief.

The battle sequence between Khan and Kirk is truly enthralling. I’m not talking the CGI, although that was great, I’m talking the writing. The back and forth, ebb and flow, call and answer between them throughout is masterclass and just has you captivated on what’s gonna happen next.

The Khan and Kirk being separated the entire time echoes back to this movie not only being a sequel to "Space Seed" but it's also heavily inspired by "Balance of Terror", a fan favorite TOS episode that I recall you didn't think was that great. So makes sense that that bothered you in this movie. For me, though, this is a near perfect film. I love it!

Watching you guys vocalize every thought I had when seeing this in the theater in ‘82 was absolutely wonderful.

Nimoy came back to be this film with the agreement that they would kill off his character and he would be able to move on from Star Trek. However, toward the end of filming this movie, he realized how much he was genuinely enjoying filming Wrath of Khan that he decided he’d be willing to stay in the franchise. He and his agent used the character’s popularity to his advantage while negotiating his contract for Star Trek 3: he would appear in the film if he was given the director’s role. The rest is history!

How we got here: The first ST movie made money, but had gotten mixed reaction, and Paramount felt that if there were to be sequals, new blood was needed. So Gene Roddenberry was kicked upstaries to the role of 'Creative Consultant'. Enter Harve Bennett, who had TV and Movie experience, but had never seen Star Trek. So to get a feel for the show, and possible story ideas, he grabbed some film prints, snacks and friends, and took to one of the screening rooms for some 1980 style binge watching. Got to 'Space Seed'; regognized Ricardo Montalban, and really liked his character. And when the episode ends the way it did and the line about 'the seeds you have planted today', Bennett said, "That's my movie!" Montalbon was still very much involved in the TV series 'Fantasy Island' when the movie was filmed, so yes he had a very limited shooting schedule. He took the role, because when he wasn't on screen, they were still talking about him.

This story is basically Moby Dick; here’s a quote from the novel and now in this film:”He tasks me. He tasks me and I shall have him. I’ll chase him round the moons of Nibia and round the Antares maelstrom and round perdition’s flames before I give him up”

Kirks pilot episode mentions a “blonde lab technician” that Gary Mitchell had set Kirk up with, and Kirk says he nearly married her. That was decided to be a Carol Marcus reference when breaking the story for this movie. Looking forward to the next few film reviews! Keep up the great work.

I love this move so much because it is more than just a space shoot em up. It was a movie about aging and the regrets that come with it. The older I get the more powerful this movie becomes for me. The theme of the roads not taken and the poor thoughtless decisions made in youth biting one in the ass later in life ring true. Khan is bitter and vengeful as his life led him to a wasteland and loss of his loved ones. He tried to conquer a world and then when losing fled to space. He then made the same mistakenon the Enterprise trying to conquer it. That led him to his exile again and another attempt to conquer a doomed world. Kirk is isolated and unfufilled despite an exemplary carrer. He is literaly surrounded by the past in his home. All of his choices and rule bending brought him to almost complete defeat. You mentioned how Khan never seemed to win at any point... the same goes for Kirk. He temprarily tricks his way out of situations he put himself in by poor choices but it is Spocks sacrifice that allows him to "win". And that Sacrifice was a far greater loss to Kirk than merely losing a battle.

How about Shatner's eulogy delivery? Man, I can't think of another scene from any other movie that gets me teared up as quickly 😮

Initially, *Leonard Nimoy* had some issues with *Spock* being so tied his identity in his post TV series years. He even resented it to a degree. Going so far as to writing a book called, _"I Am Not Spock!"_ So, when it came to playing *Spock* _again_ for a second film, he negotiated a deal where he did indeed come back for the film, but his character must die. He eventually came to terms with his *Spock* character, as he then wrote a follow up in 1995 called, _"I Am Spock!"_ This newfound appreciatioin for *Spock* really came through over the following films and TV shows. 🖖

If you go back and look at the second pilot, Gary Mitchell actually says something to Kirk that could tie into this movie. He talked about the little blonde lab tech that he pointed at Kirk. And Kirk is like I almost married her!

It made me feel all warm and fuzzy every time you guys would point at the screen or your eyes would pop as you yelled, "Oohhh!"

Honestly, a lot of people will say to watch Space Seed and Wrath as a double-bill, but IMO watching Wrath of Khan a moderate amount of time after Space Seed is the optimal experience. It helps to have gotten slightly fuzzy on the exact details of the episode so you don't pick up so much on the small and irrelevant inconsistencies. Watching the TV series and then going on to the movies puts it at the ideal point.

De Kelley was great as Bones in the series but for me he really shines in the films. This film is huge pop culture wise but for me number 6 is the best Star Trek film, followed by 4.

Ricardo Montalban starred in Fantasy Island at the time, and they had to shoot Star Trek around his schedule. He and Shatner filmed their scenes at entirely different times. That is why they were never in any scenes together. In fact, the bridges for both the Enterprise and Reliant were the same set. They just dressed it differently for as needed for each crew.

Saw it in the theater three times when it came out. Fantastic on a big screen. The whole audience was sobbing during Spocks death scene. This film saved the movie franchise.

I had the exact same reaction to Spock's funeral and the bagpipes. "No man has greater love than this, that he should give up his life for his friends." Can't wait to see your reaction to the next one.

I like that Kirk and Khan didn’t meet face to face, it sets it apart from every other story. The fact they’re on different ships gives that Horatio Hornblower thing with ship battles on the high seas.

Perhaps one of the greatest pieces of art ever put to celluloid, and after so many decades it still hits at every moment as the first time I saw it. Glad you lads got the chance to experience it.

Considering that this is only fifteen years after the TV series, and his son looks more than 15 years old, Kirk fathered the kid years before becoming captain of the Enterprise.

You got it exactly right - Nimoy had such an unenjoyable time during the making of TMP he had no intention of returning to the Star Trek franchise. Harve Bennett, who was given the producing duties for the sequel but had to use Paramount's television division to make this film (one of the consequences of the vastly reduced budget) approached Nimoy with an offer: Come back for Star Trek II and we'll give Spock the most dramatic death scene you can think of! Nimoy agreed, anticipating it would be his final appearance in Star Trek. Leaks of the script and Spock's eventual death made it out to the fan communities early during production, causing an intense uproar. As a result, the script was revised, adding the simulator scene and Spock's apparent death within the first five minutes of the film in the hopes it would throw off the fans and make them believe it was all a joke and that Spock would survive the film. In the original script, Spock would have been killed during Khan's initial attack on the Enterprise. The revision moved it to the end of the film, saving the ship. Part of what allowed this movie to be completed on a much smaller budget was almost all the sets they needed already existed. One reason the TMP budget was so high is Paramount rolled the costs associated with developing what was supposed to be the second TV series (Phase II) - building sets, creating props and costumes, writing scripts - into the film's budget. The decision to leave the sets standing in the Paramount sound stages after TMP was completed was fortunate. All the existing TMP sets like the bridge, sickbay, engineering, corridors, and crew quarters were redressed - in the case of the bridge the set was cut into 'pie slices' so sections could be moved around, allowing easier filming inside the set and easy re-dress to appear as the bridge of the Reliant. They would go on to become the longest standing sets in Hollywood - first built for Phase II in 1977, modified for TMP in 1978, refurbished and used for the films Star Trek II through Star Trek IV, modified to become sets for the Enterprise-D in The Next Generation, and elements of the original standing sets would go on to appear as parts of USS Voyager in Star Trek: Voyager. The original sets would finally be dismantled and replaced by the sets for the Enterprise NX-01 of Star Trek: Enterprise in 2001. The character of Saavik was originally intended to be a half-Vulcan/half-Romulan character that Spock had rescued from a failed Romulan colony sometime around the first season of the Original Series and who was raised by Spock's parents Sarek and Amanda, which is why Kirsty Alley portrayed her as a bit more emotional and strong-headed than the typical Vulcan. Unfortunately, all mention of Saavik's duel-heritage was edited out of the film (and subsequent re-edited releases) so as far as recognized by canon Saavik is a full-Vulcan. She would be played as such when re-cast with Robin Curtis in the sequels. The Director's Cut of this film makes it much clearer (by actually stating it outright) that Cadet Peter Preston was Scotty's nephew, his sister's oldest child, which explains the emotion displayed by Scotty at the cadet's death. And yes, it's true Chekov was not in Star Trek's first season when "Space Seed" was produced. Originally it was supposed to be Sulu who was Reliant's first officer (ironically, George Takei wasn't in Space Seed either), but during script revisions the character was swapped with Chekov. It has been accepted by the fandom that Ensign Chekov was indeed aboard the Enterprise during the first season, just not yet posted to a position on the bridge. One cameo you probably missed was that Reliant's communications officer was Commander Kyle - played once again by John Winston. Lt Kyle was one of the recurring Red Shirts aboard the Enterprise throughout the course of the Original Series (most often as one of the transporter technicians) and first appeared in the episode "Space Seed."

In the novel as well as the extended version of the film, it's established that the cadet Scotty carried to the bridge was his nephew. Which explains Scotties reaction.

I bawled hysterically at this movie.

Right @13:33 when Scotty says "He stayed at his post when the others ran." - That line of dialog was actually from a historic WWI obituary after The Battle of Jutland and refers to Jhon Travers Cornwell who stayed at his post, with dead sailors all around him, waiting for further orders from the captain.

Director Nicholas Meyer replied that even in his sixties Montalbán, who had a vigorous training regimen, was "one strong cookie", and that his real chest was seen on film. Khan's costume was specifically designed to display Montalbán's physique. Montalbán agreed to take the role for a significant pay cut, since by his own admission, he relished reprising the role, and his only regret was that he and William Shatner never interacted - the characters never meet face to face, except through video communication - as their scenes were filmed several months apart in order to accommodate Montalbán's schedule for Fantasy Island

The next four movies each give the secondary characters their own moments to shine, even if it's not anything substantial.

Did you guys know that Khan's last words are the Last words of Capt Abe of Moby Dick, as He plunges the whale killing lance into Moby Dick's backside! Khan was reading Moby Dick for the last 15 years stranded on that desolate planet! So as he went insane he kind of likend himself to Capt Abe!

Surprised you guys didn't check out the extended version which I thought was pretty common now. Scotty talking about his nephew is a nice character moment. Kirks son didn't bother me much. Kirk would have been about 30 when David was born and almost ready to take on the Enterprise. No doubt Carol didn't really give him any ibfo on their son,maybe a quick message telling him to stay away or something and Kirk probably never saw him. The scene with David and Kirk at the end was really touching and it all goes towards Kirks story of having to deal with things changing. It also adds to the next film. And on first watching I was a bit disappointed that Kirk and Kahn didn't meet face to face. But after realizing that it was really a story about one man dealing with mid life crisis and another who couldn't get past his obsession that way they set things up for them to encounter one another again didn't bother me. After all Khan needs a way to leave his planet,thus the Reliant. But why is the Reliant there? Genesis. Once Kahn has the ship then things just fall into place. He attacks,of course. Kirk outwits him and strikes back. After that it just wouldn't have made as much sense if they did meet. Kirks real enemy here was simply having to deal with life which was beyond his control even though he strived to be in control. It all works well. You get a kind of story where they meet with Into Darkness and it's incredibly dumb.

I totally disagree about Kirk's son. I think Merritt Butrick did a great job as David, and i love the scene at the end with him and Kirk. It shows Kirk growing as a person, not just being a space cowboy. As for Carol, yeah, they didn't use her much in act 3, but what did you want them to do with her? The 3rd act was the build-up of the fight with Khan. Should they have had some shoved in melodramatic moment in the middle of the action like a CW show? I think they played her just right.

...KHANNNNNNN!!!!

Not only a great Star Trek movie just a great movie!, the undiscovered country is also great

Supposedly, Saavik was supposed to be half-romulan. In a deleted scene, Peter Preston was Scotty's nephew. That's why he was so sad about the death of an engineer. III is easily D Kelley's best performance. The working title was Vengeance of Khan. Which. Was too close to the working title of Revenge of the Jedi. For the best both titles ended up changing.

A little bit of trivia. When Harve Bennett approved the design for the Reliant, he actually looked at it upside down and approved it. That's why the nacelles are below the saucer.

To answer your question regarding Khan and Checkov knowing each other, they apparently ret-Khan'd it in the novel that Checkov was on the ship, but not bridge crew during Space Seed.

The spaceships are a representation of Kirk and Kahn. That was the meeting of them. I never really considered the lack of in person fighting as an issue, Kahn is that superior in strength in that way it would be very one sided I do get wanting them to interact in person, reacting to each other in that way.

So they say this is 15 years after the episode "Space Seed." The original series and Star Trek Continues was a 5 year mission. The animated series another 5 year mission with a mostly new crew, but the same command staff. Then the first motion picture occurred and that new crew did another five year mission we never see on screen. The Enterprise was then made into a training ship for cadets, which is where this movie opens.

The 'Genesis Film' was ground-breaking CGI at the time. It still stands up surprisingly well.

Apparently, Walter Koenig was responsible for checking the continuity with Space Seed. There was no way he was going to write himself out of the movie.

That's exactly how we all felt in the theater.😢

Hey guys, I've got some bad news for you. If you think that Spock's death scene isn't going to hit you as hard as this first, you're wrong! I've rewatched this movie dozens of times, and even watching your review was making me misty. IT GETS YOU EVERY FRICKIN' TIME!

So, a common plot hole that gets brought up, which Josh brings up, is that Chekov had yet to show up on Star Trek during Khan's episode of Space Seed, but Scott Mantz over on Enterprise Incidents has a theory/head cannon that fits perfectly in which, if the stardate system that gets used works how he thinks it works, then if you line them up, it shows that Chekov was already aboard the Enterprise during the events of Space Seed, but just wasn't assigned to the bridge yet. Not absolute canon for sticklers, but neat, nonetheless.

Without spoiling which one or how it is, there is one more movie in the franchise that could be said to be a sequel to an episode. It's not one of the TOS movies, so it'll be quite a while until you get to it, but I think y'all will appreciate it. I very much look forward to seeing y'all react to the next two movies, as they, along with this movie, act as a Trilogy, with each movie leading directly into the next. As usual, an excellent reaction, and I can't wait to see the next reaction!

Yeah.. I wanted to see a face to face interaction between Kirk and Khan too.. but not sure if they could have pulled it off in a believable way. The space battles between the two were great.. and Kirk yelling KHAAAN! Also.. Kirk’s son does play off into the next movie, which I believe you have seen now 🙂

Yes! You guys really felt Spock's death and the eulogy Kirk gave for Spock. Loved every moment of this reaction. P.S. Scotty always gets me with his bagpipes too!

ST 2 The Wrath of Khan was HUGE when I was kid. I've seen this movie countless times & Spock's death always gets me. It's a treat to see people discovering Star Trek, Star Wars, etc. for the 1st time. You guys (as ST fans) seeing this for the 1st time was great. Can't wait until u get to ST: The Next Generation.

Great review guys. I think the focus on Savvik was because she was the Vulcan character to replace Spock long-term.

Only thing that surprised me about your discussion/review at the end was that you didn't mention or perhaps weren't particularly impressed by the filmmaking and staging in the Mutara Nebula scene. I always thought the use of silence and then sudden slow/fast dynamics were incredibly impressive. Plus the ILM effects are amazing.

Walter Keonig is so under utilized. He is a very good actor and unfortunately got typecast. THEN, he was cast in a little show called Babylon 5, as Alfred Bester, and everyone's favorite character you love to hate, was born.

I loooove the subtle natural banter between Bones and Kirk in the elevator: "She change her hair?" "I hadn't noticed..." "Wonderful stuff, that Romulan Ale..." The delivery! 🤣

Spock's death in order to save The Enterprise was Kirk's "no win scenario" hence the frequent reference to the Kobayashi Maru throughout the film.

Spock’s death scene was written specifically to entice Leonard Nimoy to sign on and there was initially no intention of Spock coming back. That would change, however , as filming was reaching an end and Nimoy enjoyed the experience and had second thoughts.

This is the only movie I have ever waited in line overnight for. It did not disappoint. It remains my favorite Star Trek film of all time. I remember people commenting that Ricardo Montalban's bare chest had to be a fake chest piece, as he was in his 60's at the time. Nope. Mr. Roarke was stacked. Who knew? 😆

Hey Alex & Josh, I was watching this reaction again and noticed that there are more LOL moments in this reaction than any of the other Trek you guys have done including TOS. I think that when you do Star Trek IV The Voyage Home there just may be even more LOL moments! 😀🖖

It was never mentioned in any movie but in the novelization of "The Wrath of Khan" Saavik was said to be a hybrid between a Vulcan and a Romulan, which may be the reason why she is crying at the end.

I saw an interview once with Walter Koenig where he said he was well aware that Chekov was not on the Enterprise when they found Khan but he wasn't about to say anything and lose screen time!

Saw this opening day in 1982. I even had the poster they handed out for years afterwards. It's still my favorite Trek movie, and like everyone in the audience, was wiped out that they killed Spock. There wasn't a dry eye in the house once the lights came up, and several were openly crying. There were so many great scenes in this one, and I"m glad you guys appreciate them, and also realize this was the early 80's and don't expect the level of special effects that we have now. Great review and I'll be watching your reviews of the other 4 with the original cast.

2:25 In the original backstory for Saavik , she was supposed to be half-vulcan, half-romulan (and not having begun proper vulcan mental practices until she was around 6-8 years old), which is why relative to vulcans her emotions/reactions are very much near the surface. (This was, unfortunately, never elaborated on so the way Alley was directed can come across as "wrong" to some viewers, but she was indeed following the character's backstory as originally intended.) Sidenote: this is the first proper hint that vulcans and romulans had had a closer/still-sustained contact that was generally known, even among the broader romulan and vulcan populace. (You'll see more about that down the line...)

I was one of those people coming out of the theater in tears after this movie. Same as we thought the first movie may have been all we got, we thought the same after this one. Movies with one sequel, let alone several, were still pretty few and far between then and thinking that Nimoy might not have wanted to continue...well, we were pretty devastated by this film. This was actually Kirstie Alley's first big role. Most articles tend to refer back to her starring on the tv show "Cheers" but this film introduced her. Her credit even reads "introducing Kirstie Alley." I never cared for the Marcuses either. Even though Kirk's relationship to them was certainly plausible, I had no particular interest in them any more than in Decker and Ilea. It's sometimes theorized, though never explicitly said, that Carol Marcus was a throwback to "the little blonde lab tecnician" that Kirk's friend, Gary Mitchell (Where No Man Has Gone Before) sent Kirk's way. Even though I enjoyed, to varying degrees, the latter-day movies with the new cast, they can never have the same emotional impact as these earlier films because this is the cast we watched for years, so watching Nimoy's Spock die and Shatner's Kirk lose his best friend tore our hearts out.

In the director's cut it's explained that Peter Preston is Scott's nephew. That's why he's so shocked when Peter dies. I love Kirstie Alley in this film. In some ways she outVulcans Spock.

I loved that you both got so moved at Spock's death! I could see the tears in your eyes. Such a sad moment in the film!