Oooh thanks for the info! ❤️

YES! I'm pretty sure that the lyrics and the video are based on Sheridan Le Fanu's Carmilla! The imagery portrayed in the lyrics ''I rose from the ashes in the cold ground'', ''I'll make you dream of only me'', etc. The black cat, the nightmares, the monster behind a beautiful face, the gothic horror presented in the sets, etc. It's such a good song and video!

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yahh i prefer red velvet and mamamoo over black pink

@@anweshadash6212 omg you guys will never stop bringing BP in everything will you? And, Bp is not even a vocal-based group..... I don't mean to offend you but grow up.

I agree with you, like blackswan movie. The song n the mv is just tells about two characters in one person I think, the darkness side n the bright side :)

I agree with you, but I think she meant that it might be for theme or fan service, but idols might be uncomfortable with that type of work (?)

Agree but we also have to take into consideration the fact that not everyone is going to get it at first watch. Especially the story behind the mv isn't too in your face and obvious. If someone who has no prior knowledge of what the mv tackles, it's prone to get misunderstood.

shes saying it in general about fan service in idol entertainment

THANK U FOR THAT FACT ! that’s sooo interesting

for 3+ years straight (in a row I mean, not straight) might I add

monster , spit it out , maria , lmm, i kinda loved these tracks more than how u like that

@@anweshadash6212 Wow you're unbelievable..

@@anweshadash6212 i mean WHY tf would you only bring how you like that? dont get me wrong i stan 5+ girl groups but really>

Yeah I agree! It’s just very difficult to tell in a MV setting if it’s forced or not, I was just commenting :)

jenlisa for example is a typical forced fanservice to feed shippers mostly done on stages this isn't fanservice if it relates to the story line

Grace Grimms that’s completely understandable, sometimes I can’t tell the difference either. Love your reactions btw

kpopsound exactly, they do that stuff for the fans, in public. But in an MV such as this they’re portraying characters and a story.

tbh the least of SM's concern is fan service (trust me lol) even for Red Velvet themselves. They don't push any interaction for the fan's entertainment everything is just very natural and I think even non fans who casually checks on them knows this. Not saying this because I am protecting them as their fan or whatsoever but it is just the fact. Irene might be clingy sometimes with her members but she's also the type to cringe hard when it comes things like fan service, Seulgi is too. Anyways I'm getting out of context and I just wanted to shed a light about their personality and if there are scenes like this, it is purely based on a story of the song. Based on the teasers released, Monster is about "two shadows, one individual" and from the images portrayed from this mv one is learning how to be a monster from the other that's why there's such a lot of stills they were reflecting each other. But also it was kind of dominating/manipulative way like Irene (the monster) is making Seulgi become a part of her hence some of the moves looks like she's controlling her. In Bad Boy yes they also did it. It was supposed to be Joy and Seulgi but the latter expressed she isn't comfortable with it (at that time) so Irene took her place as the two were also actresses in the sideline and okay with doing the scene to portray whatever the persona of the story has to tell. I explained it in a very messy way, english is really not my first language but I hope you all would understand

Well not everyone watched teaser , not knowing red velvet concept , not everyone wants to know the meaning of the MV , maybe they just wanna hear the music , maybe they just wanna see their artist dance , etc...

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it sounds wrong in this day and age lol

The shining 👀

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Quickest I’ve ever managed !!

This is where I read it- instagram.com/p/CCVEi5_FMOX/?igshid=hg1i0ae5lghf

I just came to this now. Am a bit disappointed too, cuz of heteronormativity. irene and seulgi are professionals and they understood the concepts, and they even contributed with the idea. It’s not necessary to speculate. 😅

​@syê you Yeah. I've never heard anyone make comments about the performers being uncomfortable when a woman and a man get close and "act" like they are attracted to each other for a music video. I don't think she had bad intentions at all, but it did sort of scream "heteronormativity!"

Oops lol

Agree! There’s a difference between portraying lgbt people and relationships in an artful, beautiful, and realistic manner, and using characters who are lgbt purely to draw in fans or lgbt imagery to please an audience. There’s a big difference between fetishization and representation. Also homophobes can fuck right off

Exactly!!

Wait. Why are MVs with het (hetero, I assume) imagery “problematic”?

Scott Nguyen Idk how this isn’t apparent, but het imagery in MVs is usually overtly sexual and one sided. Women are sexualized to the point of being objects and prizes to be “shown off.” Gender stereotypes are almost always used, and toxic behavior is normalized. This isn’t exclusive to het imagery of course, but whenever het imagery is shown, you are almost guaranteed to see the aforementioned issues.

@@indigodragon0613 It isn't apparent because you made a broad sweeping generalization, and we clearly have different baselines of what constitutes heterosexual imagery. To me the term heterosexual is completely neutral, whereas you seem to attach to it a lot of baggage. This was made further confusing by your earlier statements: 1. "...anyone not comfortable seeing 2 people of the same gender kissing can gtfo." I have no problem with it. 2 ."...if MVs with lgbtq imagery are a problem, then so are MVs with het imagery as well." Again, A-Okay with both. I agree that objectifying women--or anyone, really--with no regard to the person as a whole is a problem. The confusion here stems from your coupling of "het" imagery with all the negative things you listed. Not everyone has the same unfavorable view of heterosexual imagery as a jumping off point.

Thank uuuuu 💕

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love how additionally to that their first b-side is called diamond, that's like the 4th sm b-side with that same title..

Okay but you could say careless instead of stupid tho

Like I said, I didn’t know. It’s just a thought I had in the moment of the reaction. I clearly stated that I did not know. Thank you for the information.

You are watching a reaction, meaning she is saying whatever comes first to her mind. You can educate her without being rude, she is from a different culture and obviously there is a language barrier so you cannot expect her to know all of this. On top of that, she said repeatedly that "she didn't know" that she wasn't from Korea so she wasn't cualified to comment on this.

I don't mean to sound like a tool here, but if this irritates you, you shouldn't watch reaction videos. People watch reaction videos to see people give their opinions on what is happening in the video. This requires that they talk about the video. I, like a lot of people, would rather see them pause the video when they have something to say, as opposed to talking over the video and possibly miss something noteworthy in the video. If the video has a lot of interesting points, there will be a lot of pauses. I don't know how many times I've seen a reacter miss what I though was one of the best parts of a video because they got distracted and started talking about something that happened 4 seconds before. In short, we're not here to watch the music video. We're here to see her reaction and opinions on the video. If you want to see the whole, uninterrupted MV, go watch the original MV. If you want to see a reaction expect people to pause and react.

@@keithcraig506 i liked her few reactions, i needed a reaction from a dancer. I am not hating it, just felt irritation FYI: Many of her pauses were unrelated to MV details