this summary is killing me 🤣

Christ... The drinking game for the Hobbit movies would be insane with the 'wrong name counter' with the dwarves...

I’ve got some Chivas, it’s going to be a fun weekend.

7 for the dwarves (7 dwarven clans) ; 3 for the elves, mirroring the 3 "silmarils" elven gems of ancient era. The rest is golden!

give me my keys

And they always start with “ How long!?”

I remember this is my exact same reaction when I watched it with my dad 24 years ago I think it was when it came out. I was like "that's it? Did they forget they have a ring to destroy?!?!" 😅😅 My dad laughed so much 😅

My favorite part of reactions to this movie is that moment, it gets everyone the first time

The only disappointing thing about Fellowship is that it ends. After having read the book at 13 and seeing the film at 32, I was so grateful for the extended editions, which are more than worth it.

Oh you def realise it's been 3 hours, it's just that it ends abruptly.

Exactly. His intro with the pipe smolder lighting his eyes is just too sexy.

lmao

I remember we was kids when first movie had premiere in cinema. We often played in woods as kids, roleplaying some characters and after this movie we had every day adventure as Fellowship and everyone wanted to be Aragorn :D :D I often played Frodo, because I wasnt most baddas kid from our group :DD but later when next movies come, I switched to Faramir :D

Yes, and the fact that he has worn them until his own demise makes it even more emotional.

My brother, my captain, my king 😭

i didnt pick that up when i was a teen seeing these, but little things like that i appreciate about these movies, im always finding something new everytime i watch it. literally my all time favorite movie(s)

@@whyit6158 I have also cried so many times to these words. Also when he asks forgiveness and Aragorn forgives him. But it all failed when someone pointed out that as Aragorn runs towards dying Boromir, he walks by a "death" uruk that turns around his head to figure out who stepped on him, it ruined it for me!

That's what I was thinking - I'm in no way diminishing the emotions of the first movie, but if this was the reaction, I feel like she may need to do some long pauses in subsequent movies, just until the crying stops enough to continue

I wouldn’t say that’s true. It did. It just became cheaper and also easier to use, but that also means people are cheap with and use it to cut corners. However most of the good CGI we see in movies today goes by unnoticed, filling the backgrounds or adding to scenes.

I think it’s hilarious that the Star Wars prequels came out around the same time, and they have worse CGI even though they had like 30 million more in their budget each lmao.

@@Grf1556right?? that’s because LoTR struck a perfect balance with CGI, miniatures, and on-scene filming. Star Wars prequels used some stellar miniatures, but I think certain battle scenes were 100% CGI which stuck out badly

@@Grf1556because lotr leaned heavily into prosthetics and practical effects while the Star Wars team leaned heavily into straight CGi. The Star Wars guys actually helped the lotr team do gollum.

@@Mini_Hayley it’s wild to think Gollum wouldn’t exist without Jar Jar

He also spent decades coming up with all the backstory about the world in notes that he never published. That level of depth is why the worldbuilding in LOTR is so good. After his death, his son collected, organized and published these notes in several volumes.

@@gunkulator1 yep, I know, pretty awesome

lol yea that got me too

Same here 😂

Bro 😂😂😂😂😂😂

lack of respect! or Merry Poppins! or Ballgag! But Bilbo does turn into an invisible crack addict when he tries to take the ring from Frodo.

It's not that strange when you learn the context. Isildur finally overcame the Ring's control, and decided to hand it over to Elrond. He was on his way to Rivendell, the strongest and safest Elf kingdom. The Ring/Sauron was afraid of that uncertainty. For an immortal being like Sauron, it's better to just let the Ring be lost for a few millennia, since he already put things in motion to chip away at the kingdoms of Elves, Dwarves and Men. The longer the wait, the easier the victory. By the time the events of Lord of the Rings happen, Sauron is so powerful he doesn't need the Ring, that's why destroying it is the only option left.

Get that lady a copy of Bored Of The Rings by Harvard Lampoon! :)

@@alexanderriley2979 "IF THE NAME TO WHICH THY ANSWERS THYSELF ART - FRITO BUGGER!"

@@alexanderriley2979 - Yeah, I was just combing through the comments to see if anyone else was old enough to know about that book. Dildo Doggins was his full name, if I remember correctly.

gimmie some of groin....Gimly son of Gloin

😂 I remember that. ​@@alexanderriley2979

I've always wondered how someone can even think there was a possibility they could reach Gandalf on time. I've even seen people arguing that the scene is stupid because they think there was enough time to get to him. WTF? They act as if Gandalf would have been hanging there for hours, when even in slow motion it all happened in a few seconds. Not even a juiced version of Usain Bolt would have reached him on time!

@@MarcosPerez-wx1fx Exactly

I think they're doing LoTR in theaters again this year, aren't they?

@@charlie7masonin June yes

@@Onlytwo64 I'm gonna try to catch them there. I never got to watch them in theaters.

​@@charlie7masonI wish people didn't clap or cheer during important scenes in the theaters. I understand they're fans, but they break my immersion 😞 The movies are worth the big screen though. I wish you a nice viewing 👍

@@alexkats30 Thank you. I too like to be fully immersed in my experience, so I hope my theater will allow that.

Peter Jackson said, "The theatrical versions are the definitive versions". For a first watch, I would always recommend the theatrical cut and then the Extended to get a deeper dive

@@morcjul Peter's wrong then cuz cutting THAT ONE SCENE 👀 from the beginning of Return is a pure sin. Theatricals are incomplete, Extendeds are THE edition.

Do the extended versions and break it up into 2 parts

@@Captain_Haruno The added character moments in the extended versions are cringey, annoying and do nothing to advance the story. They were cut for a reason.

Yes!!

Inarguably.

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The effects shots, outside of Smaug, in the Hobbit were also terribly rushed (along with every other aspect of that production) because Jackson was dropped into the director's chair at the last minute following the various legal battles the studio had over the various rights to make the Hobbit.

This, a bunch of the size difference effects with the Hobbits were forced perspective tricks, but in the Hobbit they couldn't do any of that because the 3D cameras would make those impossible to do.

Halflings in AD&D, in the first edition Monster Manual were originally Hobbits...and it was about that time the Tolkien Estate started firing off cease-and-desist letters to TSR. Orcs and goblins still made the cut, I guess.

@@alexanderriley2979 yup, and Ents became Treants and Balrog became Balor. Tolkien borrowed “Orc” from Beowulf, so I expect it was more public domain, along with Goblin, even though he did popularize the image we have of them today

​@@alexanderriley2979 probably because the words 'orc' and 'goblin' weren't created by Tolkien.

That's true, although I did read once that Gary Gygax actually actively disliked LotR and found it kinda boring. The kinds of games that AD&D was made for running were also less similar to a story like LotR than more "modern" D&D campaigns. (I imagine. Obviously I have no proof of how exactly all people throughout the decades played their D&D adventures, that's just the impression I get).

@@baguettegott3409 as I understand it, the influence wasn’t necessarily to mimic story structure like lord of the rings, but rather emulating worlds like it.

I'm Happy You typed all that out so I didn't have too !! Much appreciated. Thank You sincerely

I will add that Tolkien himself claims there is no allegory in LOTR. In other words, he did not intend for his fictional world to mirror the real world in any way. But given the brutality of warfare he experienced, I too cannot help but feel that some of the real world did slip into into his writings.

@@gunkulator1 Yes and no: allegory is a one to one map, and he stated he did not do that. (More specifically, that it wasn't an allegory for World War II, and that he dislikes allegory as "purposed dominion of the author".) But he never denied that it was shaped by his experiences, as any creative work must be, and explicitly mentioned in the Forward to the Second Edition that returning home from WWI to find his home village industrialized was one that influenced LOTR.

@@JenABlue-ed1bw I am saying that the story is to some degree allegorical, regardless of the author's intentions.

Ralph Bakshi made an animated version of LOTR in 1978 however it only covered to the end of the second book. It's not very good. Rankin Bass (the studio that made Rudolf the Red-nose Reindeer, Santa Claus is Coming to Town and many others) made in 1977 IMHO the best version of The Hobbit, much better than the bloated three 2012+ movies.

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Im glad they at least moved Boromirs death from Two Towers. If they followed the books we wouldve only seen Frodo's perspective of the final battle

That was my reaction. I was living with my uncle and aunt at the time and we would rent a movie every weekend and watch all together. At the movie rental place, we were recommended Lord of the Rings, so we rented it, watched it and enjoyed it while it lasted, but when it was over, all of us were angry, and my uncle even said "never listen to their recommendations again!" - we were not used to "trilogy" formats, up until this point, all movies we watched even if multiple series would have their own full, contained stories within each part, but this one quite literally ended still in the middle of a story. Fast forward to now and these are my favorite movies ever made, so it's crazy to me that the first movie I watched I remember feeling lukewarm toward, all because it wasn't a complete story XD

yeah my bro was aggravated by that too lol

​@StinkyBuster Absolutely. When I first read LOTR as a child I felt Boromir died in the wrong place - it should have been the climax of Fellowship. I'm so glad Jackson made that tweak.

His name is Dildo get it right 🤣

holy guacamole, thank you!! glad you enjoyed the reaction, because i surely enjoyed the movie! looking forward to the next ones and to the rest of the adventure. 😊

@@eralia You're certainly welcome. I'm looking forward to watching you react to the rest of this amazing adventure. I promise you, it does not disappoint.

@@RoboSteave definitely gotta watch the extended edition.

@@Icyp0is0n Love the extended editions. I do have 2 caveats against them (both of the caveats having to do with the 3rd movie) that I won't mention yet because it's spoilery, but I think extended editions are still more worth it despite those caveats.

@@PeterDB90 its always hard to figure out if extended should be a first timers watch or not, but if theyre only going to watch it once, it deff should be extended...ive seen these movies so many times that extended is the norm, i can only spot Fellowships differences now between theatrical and extended.

3 - 7 - 9 - 1 in the books, his death the exact reverse

@@morcjul woah thats a trip, didnt know that

LOL i had to whip that one out

In germany it is simply part of the computer science schooling which included project management.

i used to be a big bowler, i appreciated the reference XD (Kingpin is a classic fav of mine)

thank you for the kind comment and for understanding my situation! i’m glad you’re still here despite the pause in mass effect, and i’m looking forward to continuing the game when i return as well 😊

he's so good!

omg thank you so much for the support!!! i love hanging out with yall, even if im away from home. i’ll have too look into the extended ones, lots of requests for that ☺️

@@eralia Please don't watch the EE of the movies. There's a bunch of stuff that won't make any sense because you haven't read the books. Peter Jackson has said that the regular versions are his preferred version of the movies and that the EE are novelties for people who have read the books. I would watch the EE as a second viewing.

@@movieswithmatticus5469 I don't think anyone would agree with you my friend, the extended editions are the only ones worth watching. Most people I know doesn't even watch reactions unless they are doing the extended!! (Not my case though, I'll watch all of them haha, but I definitely prefer the Extended Editions and would be so so so grateful if she took the Extended for Two Towers and Return of the King!)

@@movieswithmatticus5469 I disagree to an extent. EE's tie up certain loose ends that the regular versions don't cover, but I WOULD agree with you that EE's might be better on a second viewing rather than first, so if she plans to watch this multiple times, I'd recommend regular versions (there's multiple reasons for this - I won't spoil the scene I'm talking about, but EE spoils something in the 3rd movie for example way too early - there's a scene that leaves an outcome up in the air and EE's immediately give you the answer to what the outcome will be, while regular version makes you wait until the climax and only THEN reveals to you what the outcome was, which makes that revelation much more powerful and satisfying rather than watching it and knowing it's coming like you do in EE). Obviously, I'm purposely being vague because I don't want to spoil what scene it is, but I'll be back here to comment again to clarify what I meant once she watches the next 2 movies. BUT if she plans to watch only once, then EE's all the way.

@@isabelnoyer5893 Peter Jackson has said he thinks the theatrical cuts are the definitive movie experience. I think that counts for something.

Same. The movies are the gold standard for movie adaptation and were a labor of love for everyone involved. The swords and knives were real, forged by a master swordsmith. All the weapons, costumes, and structures are true to the details given in the books. The height difference between hobbits and men was handled not by CGI but by forced perspective. Bilbo's house, Bag End, and all the hundreds of props inside, were constructed in two versions, at different scales.

As an Anglo-Saxon Australian i understand it alot...

To be fair, New Zealanders were British when Tolkien wrote LOTR

thats nice to hear, i feel some "book purists" get a bit too nit picky with the films adaptation, certain things have to get cut, and i feel PJ picked the right things for the way the story was told. This coming from someone who watched the movies first and read the books after, so theres that bias which i can understand.

@@DeRockMedia As a person who read the books half a century ago in HS and have reread them most of my life, I agree. Peter Jackson (and Fran Walsh and Phillipa Boyens who wrote the screenplay) did an amazing job.

i can watch new reactors all day watching this movie, ive seen probably a couple dozen now at this point, makes me feel like im watching it for the first time again. Absolutely love these movies with all my heart.

yeah i dont understand how so many people misunderstood that tbh

ive watched this movie since it was released in theaters at least once a year (past few not so much but i get my fill with these reactions). I wasnt emotional when i was a teen watching these even though i absolutely loved them, but the older i get, the harder i feel for a lot of these scenes now. I always get very sad when the door closes at the very last scene because i dont want it to be over.

My wife gifted me The Hobbit book filled with Tolkein's own illustrations and maps - I still haven't started it but I plan to and LOTR is next. I was told LOTR is a very difficult read while Hobbit is more of a kids book so starting with Hobbit will help me jump into LOTR, but everyone I talked to who has read LOTR has warned me about how hard it is to read through it. I know this, but still want to read the books because the movies are my favorite of all time, so I want to know what the books are about, even if I have to FORCE myself to read them.

@@PeterDB90 Fellowship came out when i was 10. One day, by chance, my mom took me to the mall after school and before going home the movie theater was empty and they were playing it. We went in on the final 1/3 of the movie. I jad no idea what was hapoening but i thought it was just so amazing. I kept talking about it and my dad told me it was based on an old book. Lord of the rings was the first book i ever read by choice. My parents tried to force me to read harry potter, some kids books. Never could read more than a few pages. This one I read in 3 months and would read again every year for many years after that. Its the reason i love books. The hobbit was a fun light read that i did much later but never read it again. IMO the vibe is just too different. If it wasnt for bilbo and gandalf i would say its an spin off. What imtrying to say is basically that you can consider both two different stories and you wont miss mich. You can vibe with the hobbit and dislike the reading experience of lotr. Or vice versa. Lotr os dense and some times dull, but it never unenjoyable. The worst part to go through it chapter 5 or 6 IIRC. The part after Bilbo leaves and before frodos starts the journey. I never liked reading through that part and I would skip it some times.

No! First time viewers should always watch the theatrical editions. As Peter Jackson has said, the theatrical editions are the definitive versions. The extended editions are for people who have already watched them and want more.

@@gracehiggins2666 the arguments that I have against this would be spoilers so I don't wanna say it just in case. All I'll say is that one loses characterisation and plot critical scenes if not for extended.

@@Lycan072 Nothing plot critical is lost by only watching the theatrical editions. And again, fleshing out secondary or tertiary characters is something people can go back and watch the extended edition for if they liked the theatrical editions.

The main issue with people watching the extended editions is the AWFUL green tint the bluray editions had. The majority of the reactors on KZfaq are watching these films with that awful green tint making the colours of everything look wrong. Only the recent 4k releases fixed the colours for the extended editions but it’s hard to guarantee KZfaq reactors watch the correct versions. I’ve seen so many KZfaqrs watch LOTR for the first time with all the colours messed up and it really bothers me haha

The extended versions are a drag, those parts are cut for a reason

@@mikeyb0121 Exactly. They're nice additions for people who love the books and the movies.

@@mikeyb0121 Yeah, the reason is you cant have a 4-5 hour movie in a theatre and be profitable. You obviously didnt like the movie, but no one cares what you like or dislike. If someone does like this movie though, then the extended versions are a must.

@@cadleo no need to act butthurt lol. I liked the film. Watched both versions. Extended cut was boring. Nobody cares what you like or dislike either, which is why she doesn’t need to waste time watching the extended version

@@mikeyb0121 I didnt say what I liked or disliked, I said if she loved the movie to please consider the extended. Youre the one projecting the butthurt telling everyone what they should do because of you. Again, no one cares but you, and you cant even be honest about disliking the movie.

Yeah, I can see why they condensed that for the movie - 17 years is a long time, they'd need another group of actors playing the hobbits by then.

@@PeterDB90 The movie doesn't explictly say whether it had been 17 years or not. However, I don't think they would really need different actors for the Hobbits. By the time they leave the Shire, Sam and Merry are 38 and 36 respectively, and Pippin is 28. They wouldn't look particularly that much different given the way Hobbits age according to the books. Frodo is 50, but due to the Ring already starting to delay aging, he would also likely look around the same or similar to when he was 33.

The character she mentioned is in the parody book called "Bored of the Rings".

Don’t have her watch those horrible Hobbit films😞

I'm assuming its a generator or something.

wow, thanks so much 🥹

Yeah I hope she does. This one seemed incredibly chopped up, probably in order to avoid copyright but also to fit it all into a reasonable timeframe. I hate to be someone to complain, but the amount of cuts in this reaction, even to short scenes, felt pretty jarring, at least to me.

it was just my low attention span brain since i edited it myself and wanted to keep it short and simple 😂 i can adjust it in the future if there’s an ask for it.

​@@eraliaI think everyone one would appreciate a reaction around an hour long each for these movies

@@eralia Thank you for being open minded and receptive. I truly appreciate what you do and what you're continuing to provide for us. I think roughly an hour is what people like when it comes to a reaction from a movie with the length of the LotR. For shorter run time movies, 30-45 minutes is totally fine. I know reaction channels have to find such a fine balance between what they show and how long each clip can be before you run into copyright issues, so its def a learning curve. I know many of the more successful/popular reaction channels will change the camera position and size depending on the moment to help with copyright along with adjusting the volume of the movie vs your commentary and stuff. Its more complicated than people think in order to successfully do these reactions and still avoid copyright. I HIGHLY suggest checking out Popcorn In Bed and Natalie Gold for a good example of how to edit them to avoid copyright and balance the flow of the movie. Its definitely a lot more work in editing, but it will only draw in more people in the end. Maybe you can consider trying to find an editor to help you? Maybe inquire about it in the discord? You might have someone experienced in editing hiding in there somewhere. Idk, just more suggestions. Sorry for the novel.