24:40 The idea of that scene is that Pippin intentionally made Treebeard go there so he would see the devastation, call the other ents and the beauty of the scene is that they didn't need a single word to know what they were going to do, they all just knew after seeing their dead friends. Basically they had Treebeard go there so they wouldn't even need to talk things through

Gollum is essentially his second personality brought on by the Ring. After 500 years of the Ring’s corruption. It’s very based on addiction.

The short jokes are especially funny here because the actor who played him was the tallest of the cast

Everyone says they should have stayed in Edoras… the wood-timbered structures with the wooden palisades, open on all sides. They would have been starved and slaughtered. At Helm’s deep, with their backs literally against the wall, they stood a chance.

7:56 "Why are they not permanently here?" They would run out of food quickly, when they'd give up their farms. Also the horses would starve in the mountains.

You need to remember that the various kingdoms are far apart and there is no easy way to communicate quickly! Unlike a lot of fantasies (and other movies) Tolkien took great care to take into account things like distances and exactly how long it would take to cover those distances on foot/horseback etc. If Gondor just popped up to hep Rohan it would make no sense. Really good fantasy (and this is probably the best) pays attention to detail and adds as much realism to the fantastic aspects as possible. It makes the world feel more authentic.

“I haven’t seen the good…it’s just not around you” Remember the shire? That was the good lol the rest of the world can be good as well without all the evils present. There is much good, and this movie does SUCH an incredible job at making you forget it. They’ve come so far in their journey that home feels like a distant memory covered in shadow, and that’s what we as an audience remember. Such a perfect set of movies that put us exactly in the place where the characters are, so well done.

22:57 hidden doors of that nature are actually common on medieval fortifications. They were called posterns, and they were used for sneaking in and out during sieges.

To be fair to Theoden, there was not enough time to ask for help, send riders and help to arrive. They only had until nightfall. There was truly no time. And even if they did ask for help from Gondor which was the only reasonable option, the truth is that Gondor was fighting their own battles in various places, and was in a very hard predicament protecting their borders and would not be able to help either. Even the elves were in a similar position protecting their own borders and could not spare men. The elves never came in the books by the way. They were indeed alone in this.

They didn't fire right away cause they had limited arrows. He wanted to make sure every arrow hit something

Yes, all elves are immortal. They can be killed , die of sickness, or die of sorrow. In Arwen's case (and all of Elrond's children), there are special circumstances that allow them to choose becoming mortal.

context is everything: Elrond is not being weird. Elves are immortal, unless slain in battle or die of grief/broken heart. An elf who falls in love with a mortal must surely die, that after thousands of years of pain from losing the one loved. Elrond is hoping to spare her that and also spare himself that grief. in refering to him having her love, he simply stating that he does not want that fate for his daughter, who others would live as long as the world last. I hope that helps you to get a better understanding of the situation; there is no real father who would try to save his daughter such a fate.

In the book, Treebeard says to Merry and Pippin, "You do not know, perhaps, how strong we are. Maybe you have heard of Trolls? They are mighty strong. But Trolls are only counterfeits, made by the Enemy in the Great Darkness, in mockery of Ents, as Orcs were of Elves. We are stronger than Trolls. We are made of the bones of the earth. We can split stone like the roots of trees, only quicker, far quicker, if our minds are roused."

Sam says Gollum is nothing more than lies and deceit: "Oh you're a terrible person!" Literally the next scene, Gollum talking to himself: "Ok he may have to go" 😂

30:30 "Guys, the movie just got super jovial out of nowhere", following the ents taking down Isengard, Gandalf and Eomer turning the tide at Helm's Deep and Faramir letting Frodo go.

As for Aragorn being 87 and being one of the Dunedain, he's a descendant of a race of Men called Numenoreans. Their story is inspired by Atlantis in that they also were a great, advanced civilization on an island that got destroyed and sunk in a cataclysm thousands of years ago. Numenor actually founded Gondor and another kingdom in the north called Arnor (which was later destroyed), which is why Aragorn is the true Heir to Gondor. Before their fall, the "gods" rewarded the Numenoreans for helping them defeat an enemy by making them basically superhumans, since they were described as being taller and stronger than men from all other kingdoms, along with being technologically advanced and having extended lifespans.

The funeral of a King with mourning citizens filing past in a last tribute, followed by burial and a statue on top of the tomb, such as you see in Westminster Abbey.

Regarding ents being slow first and fast later, it is not a contradiction but a deliberate thing. Tolkien described it as a difference between a cow, quietly chewing grass while lying on a pasture and a raging bull in full attack (sorry, I don´t have an English copy of LOTR handy, so I only paraphrase). They take very long to decide but if they do, they can act as fast as coming flood.

Thaeodin was a bad leader? He had two choices. Fight and let a few of his people escape, or, surrender when the Orcs show up and just let the Orcs Slaughter everybody. The Orcs were going to be there by Nightfall, there was no time to send anyone for help.

You’re not the first reactor to feel sympathy for Gollum, but probably the only one to call Sam a ”terrible person”...!

As you could see from the scenes in Gondor, they were busy fighting their own battles. You should look at a Middle Earth map. Gondor is right next to Mordor. Where both scenes are taking places are pretty far away from one another--remember, they are on horseback as the fastest transportation. Rohan is being attacked by the Uruk Hai army from Saruman (Isengard is close to Rohan and so is Fangorn Forest), while Gondor is being attacked by orcs from Mordor and the Nazgul from Minas Morgul--right on Gondor's border. Gondor is dealing with Sauron himself. That is the point of the Two Towers. Having two strong enemies forces a two front war, so the good side can't pool their resources and unite.. The only things that turned this around were Gandalf coming back and the Ents getting into the fight. (The trees in the sudden forest are half trees/ half Ents that decide to get into the action.) The elves coming is neither here nor there, as they won without them in the book.

You have to understand Elrond’s perspective. He has foreseen that Frodo will not survive which makes it unlikely that Sauron will be destroyed and Aragorn made king. Additionally all the elves are leaving Middle Earth, so the prospect of leaving his only daughter is understandably not something he wants to happen.

7:55 I guess because it has no housing, it's just a fortress. It also depends on how close it is to the other villages of Rohan, the quality of the soil, stables for horses etc.

This is obviously the extended edition. That part towards the end with Merry and Pippin raiding that food storage was not in the original theatrical cut. You're right, its oddly jovial for a scene so near the end of the film.

"this is the top 5 most beautiful movies I've seen" You should have seen it in the theater, big screen... "Majestic" doesn't even begin to describe the experience 😲

As much as it seems prideful that the king doesn’t call for help there really isn’t anyone to call. The Rohirrim are days away but Gandalf is retrieving them and the kingdom of Gondor is also days away and they’re under constant attack because they’re the closest to Mordor so they couldn’t come either (and in the books the elves don’t come)

Female dwarves beards are their mark of beauty to a male dwarf. Their fertility was also another for growing strong and thick haired children. The reason they don't bunker down in helms deep is because of food. The cost of fortifying and upkeeping it with a full garrison is more than can be afforded. It's in a valley surrounded by mountains that block most of the sun so crops won't grow without massive effort. The reason what elrond wants his daughter to go to the west is because she will be immortal there. He doesn't mind that Aragorn loves her and she loves him, BUT he just doesn't want his daughter to die.

Well the movies were all filmed at the same time in NEW ZEALAND they Filmed them all at once to maintain the same feel and look of all the characters, then they released them apart like most series of movies.

MRLboyd reacting to stuff based on the real world: GREAT! MRLboyd reacting to anything fantasy: must use all the real world logic.

The actor playing the Rohan king was injured during filming. He backs away after a sword cuts his ear which required stitches.

An Ent war cry is a much more succinct piece of data than a conversation, regardless of language and content. It's the difference between explaining how a fire started and sounding an alarm.

7:57 I imagine there are several reasons why the capital of Rohan was Edoras and not Helm's Deep: - Tradition. Similar to the reason why the United States capital is near the east coast instead of somewhere slightly safer like Kansas. - Helm's Deep is essentially a box canyon. Edoras is close enough to the same mountain range that the mountains can be seen, but there is plenty of open space around it. The people of Rohan rely heavily on mounted combat; sticking those mounts in a box canyon would reduce their effectiveness. - The kingdom of Rohan is divided into the East Mark and West Mark. The capital (Edoras) is located between them, on the southern end of Rohan. - Edoras is near the Snowbourne river, which meets up with the Entwash (river) that eventually flows to Osgiliath (Minas Tirith). I haven't seen any maps showing other settlements/villages, but I suspect most of them are near those rivers. - If I understand the maps correctly, the Entwash eventually reaches Osgiliath in Gondor. (Osgiliath is the ruined city next to the fortress of Minis Tirith.) - Edoras is about 1/6th closer to its ally's capital (Minas Tirith) than Helm's Deep. - Helm's Deep was closer to Dunland. The Dunlendings are the people you see swearing allegiance to Saruman. 9:55 Elves can be killed in battle, but otherwise they are immortal. 12:26 They have builders, just not of the same skill level as those who built Osgiliath and Minas Tirith. Minas Tirith was built by the Númenóreans (who Aragorn is descended from). Think of the Númenóreans as Rome at the height of it power and technology. At the time The Two Towers is happening, the world of men is similar to the Dark ages. At the end of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, they enter something similar to the Middle Ages. (A subtle visual clue is the material the buildings of Osgiliath and Minas Tirith are made of. They are much more like concrete than stone and mortar.) I don't know if the Dwarves in Lord of the Rings are better builders than the Númenóreans were, but I suspect they aren't. I think I read somewhere that the technology of the Dwarves had also diminished. 16:32 There is NO POSSIBILITY that Théoden would offer command to Aragorn. Théoden is mostly driven by two things: (1) protecting his people and (2) not being ashamed to enter the "halls of his fathers" (their version of Valhalla). But even if Théoden offered command to Aragorn, he would never accept it. Aragorn is wise enough to know that it would completely ruin Théoden as a king from that point on. And don't forget that Théoden's son and heir had recently been killed. From a modern-day perspective, King Théoden could be seen as a bad leader. But when you look at the cultural context, Théoden is doing the only thing he can do to preserve his people. They may die in the process, but they will die as Rohirrim and not weaklings. (The people of Rohan call themselves "Rohirrim" which translates to "Horse Lords"). 17:00 I don't know if Tolkien described the Ents as having noses. I suspect this may have been an addition for the film to make them seem less monstrous and more kind. The only thing I know about the creation of the Ents is that the Elves taught them to speak. Its possible "teaching" them to speak involved the formation of a mouth and nose. The sounds the Ents make when talking suggest they breathe to speak. 17:50 The age of the available soldiers has a lot to do with who IS NOT at Helm's Deep at that moment. The "Riders of Rohan" are their main fighting force, and we don't see them until later. I don't know for sure, but I suspect the absence of the Riders is due mostly to Wormtongue's/Saruman's mischief. 19:30 Oh, yes. Things are getting interesting. Although the Elves are peace loving, they are immortal. By the time of the films, there are still a few elves as old as Galadriel (over 8,000 years). I think most of the great Elven fighters were dead by this point, but there was still an unbroken tradition of martial training. [22:25] I think Peter Jackson is trying to hint at a some cosmology with how the Elves glow. Here's an oversimplification: The universe was created by the supreme deity Eru Ilúvatar. Although the Ainur (roughly analogous to angels) were involved in the creation of the universe, everything they did was by Eru Ilúvatar's plan. When the Elves were "awakened", they were invited by the greatest of the Ainur to live with them in Valinor (roughly analogous to heaven). Some of the elves went, others did not. Those who did go were eventually called the "Eldar". By going to Valinor, they gained the "Light of the Eldar". This is a kind of grace that can be seen in the elves who traveled to Valinor. I think Peter Jackson was trying to show that the "Light of the Eldar" left an Elf when they died. You can also see something similar when Arwen decides to stay. However, it is unlikely Haldir (the elf who died) was actually an Eldar. He was probably a part of the Elves who did not travel to Valinor. Also, Arwen was half Elf, just like her father Elrond. Half Elves have the choice to travel to travel to Valinor or renounce their immortality and stay in Middle Earth. OK, gonna go on a tangent/rant here: One of the things that irritates a lot of fans of the books is that Arwen did not meet up with Aragorn & the Hobbits after Frodo was stabbed by the Nazgûl. Instead, it was Glorfindel. He was an Eldar and one of the mightiest Elves to have ever lived. Glorfindel slew a balrog and survived, unlike Gandalf who was actually a lesser Ainur (angel) who had been sent to Middle Earth in the the form of a man and with diminished powers. Glorfindel was also the one who fought (and chased away) the Nazgûl after he put Frodo on his horse and ordered the horse to take him to Rivendell. Glorfindel is mentioned in the film "The Martian" during the "Council of Elrond" scene. I understand the need to simplify things for the films, but it does create some confusion that you don't have in the books. 22:50 That "super secret hidden door" is called a "sally port". A "sally" is a military maneuver. Sneaking out a door/foxhole/etc. and attacking the enemy where they're not expecting it is called a "sally." 24:30 The Ents are "tree herders". Treebeard's call is similar to a sheep herder's bell; it's much quicker to ring a bell than to say "I need the sheep to go over there." I think another part of it is that the Ents seem to find speech so wonderful that they completely over do it. 30:22 The pipe weed was a nice touch (I'm pretty sure its in the books). Although Saruman sneered at Gandalf for smoking pipeweed, Saurman was smoking it himself. 31:00 I imagine the armor helped. Also, Aragorn was a skilled healer, and much of his knowledge was probably focused on combat wounds. 31:30 Tolkien pretended that he was translating tales about Middle Earth instead of writing them himself. In this framework, we only hear about those tales because they were written down in the "Red Book of Westmarch" (the red book that Bilbo passed to Frodo, and Frodo passed to Sam). 33:00 At this point, Aragorn is merely heir to the throne of Gondor. He hasn't been crowned yet. Also, I'm not sure if King Théoden even knew that Aragorn was the heir to Gondor. That knowledge had been kept VERY secret. If Sauron knew an heir of Isildur existed, he would do almost anything to track him down and kill him. I think the only thing more important to Sauron would be tracking down the One Ring.

(I’ll explain to you more about Elrond&Arwen & Aragorn by extension) therefore we must look at Elrond’s Twin Brother Elros, they both were half-elven brothers who can choose to be mortal or immortal because of their parents(Eärendil and Elwing) both half elven made a great sacrifice and went to Valinor to ask for help against Morgoth(who was making everything worse than a living hellscape for 100s of generations) which lead to the greatest events in the early first and second age. Instead of being punished, the valar listened to them, that led to a great hosts of Valar and Maiar And Vanyar Elves went to Middle Earth that laid waste to Beleriand. After the War Of Wrath, the valar rewarded them for their sacrifices. They can choose to be elf or men, including their children. They chose immortally, but never return to Middle Earth because they thought that their twin sons had died. But they didnt die. Elrond chose to be immortal while his twin brother Elros chose to be mortal. He founded the Kingdom of Numenor. He lived in Numenor Island and blessed with a long life that include his descendants Those men who fought for the war were rewarded a long life but not their families or children. Only the family of Elrond can choose to be immortal or mortal in which Arwen did. Aragorn is the direct descendant of Elros, thats why he has a long life. The average lifespan of a Numenorean at their height was a few thousand years maximum! Now remember too that half elves are a common thing and whenever they did come together it was always significant !❤❤❤ Remember this is the SHORT version, there are so many moving parts that will make you want to dive into the books or the audio books or even do reaction videos to the famous lore videos by the biggest lore channels out there! When you’re done the trilogy try doing reaction videos just like Moviejoob did now with the lore recently as well as OmarioRPG. I recommend videos by GirlNextGondor and The Red Book, and Tolkien Untangled and especially Men Of The West. Many other cool ones I’ll recommend in the comments section of those reaction videos you do from Tolkiens Legendarium lore videos. They are super engaging. You’ll be in love. Nothing would have existed if Tolkiens works never hit the light of day as they were meant to stay private and sometimes be shared with his children and so on. No Game Of Thrones. No Skyrim. No ElderScrolls, No World Of Warcraft, no Dungeons&Dragons. None of it. Not even Star Wars. Not even Harry Potter! They took inspiration from his works which were souly to give back a forgotten history of the Anglo Saxons that had their culture & history destroyed as the larger empires were riding around them. His works reflect the Elder Edda(Norse) The Kalevala(Finnish) and the Welsh people from Wales as well as Irelands cultures of the Tuatha De Danaan as well! His languages are fully fleshed out too resembling Finnish & Welsh • By the way Elrond is around 6870-8000 years old & nearly a full Elf year (as they age very very differently to Men) is close to 144 man years(solar years for them). but if you want a more true age you must realize that he may be 8000 but in human years after the sun and moon were created from the flower from of the two trees of Valinor as well as one fruit from the other of the two trees; they experience the TIME and the way men experience it but their clock is different! They live as long as the world/Arda/Ëa does. Essentially. Which is why they are so in synch with the world around them and the nature responds to them ! Think of when Legolas walked ontop of all that snow on the Mountain of Caradhras!! They continue to endure as long ad the world itself does. (Arda) and speaking of age, Legolas is also 3000+years old by the time he becomes a member of The Fellowship Of The Ring! If you look back on the original trilogy movies: The fellowship had a 3000year old Elven PRINCE in their party. And a clandestine angelic being who was Gandalf originally known Olòrin to those such as Galadriel who knew him when she lived in Valinor, Elrond also knew would be one of the only others who’d know this save Círdan The Shipwright(Oldest Elf in the world but even he was a few generations down from the original elvish peoples to awake to the stars) & kin to Thingol who also is a semi distant cousin to Legolas as Legolas’ grandfather was the close cousin to Thingol(same with Galadriel’s Husband Celeborn through his father, their capital within Lothlòrien was named after his father(Caras Galadhon) Galadhon being the name indicating that which belongs to the father. And a 87 year old Númenorean man named Aragorn!, a 335 year old Dwarven Prince named Gimli. And as a microcosm they resembled the coalition of all the races of middle earth uniting under one banner which is another reason it sort of metaphysically set into motion the world uniting at the macrocosm ! Galadriel's Phial (gift to Frodo) is something really special. light & dark have a spiritual dimension in Tolkien. way back before the First Age Valinor was lit by two very special Trees that waxed & waned in opposition to each other. a master craftsman Elf named Fëanor fashioned three gems that captured their light, the Silmarils. (And it’s same power and light was drawn into it from the very firmament where it now stands amongst the stars as Eärendil himself (Elrond’s father stands watch over The Doors Of Night where Melkor still is held until fate holds him no longer.) Everyone who saw them was captivated by them, even the Melkor(Morgoth); the first Dark Lord. Wars were fought over them called the Kinstrife after Morgoth had the Trees destroyed the Silmarils were the only light from them left and he stole them as you may remember, they changed hands a few times & eventually one was left after one fell into the sea & another was lost in a pit of magma. a Half Elf named Eärendil (the first one! Who was Elrond’s father.) came into its possession & sailed it to Valinor as a gift to the Valar to ask for their help in defeating Morgoth, which they did. the Valar turned it into a star & hung it in the sky with Eärendil as its guardian. the fountain of Galadriel's Mirror is lit by light captured from the star Eärendil & her Phial has water from the fount. I've left out about 90% of the story but it's quite important & central to the story of Middle Earth. for her to give the Phial to Frodo is quite extraordinary. its light does burn & blind Shelob (that's the spider's name) but doesn't kill her outright. oh also, before he was put in the sky to guard the last Silmaril Earendil had two children, Elrond & his brother Elros the first King of Numenor. Tolkien's lore is deep & vast & the Silmarils are at the center of it. The Star of Eärendil is the light that shines in the horizon both in the morning and the evening. It consists in a boat raised by the Valar and led by Eärendil, who carries a shining Silmaril while watching the Doors of Night. The Door of Night was a portal in the distant Uttermost West that leads to heaven, and/or the Void. Eärendil's ship Vingilot was taken by the Valar from the rim of the world, passed through the Door and was lifted into the "oceans of heaven". PS: Eärendil is ELROND’s half Vanyar Elf half human father, that father was the son of the great Tuor of the great stories of The Children Of Húrin book!❤❤❤❤ Aragorn is a CLOSE descendant of a direct bloodline to Elros(Elrond’s Twin Brother) The title of half elven (Peredhel) was due to the combined history of Beren&Lúthien, his mother Elwing was the granddaughter of Lùthien! Eärendil was the husband of Elwing. The true half elf; son of the best elvish women ever who rescued hundreds from the highest of elvish kingdoms(Gondolin); her name is Idril & one of the best most powerful men around named Tuor. Who later on when they went to Valinor together through their own way lead to him choosing to be counted as One Of The Eldar for Idril. Eärendil did the same for Elwing. ❤

The ring wraiths and their mounts have like a fear aura around them that effect(worse for humans) with like an uncontrollable fear and when they scream/screetch it's supposed to almost paralyze them with fear, iirc

No war is ever fair - all wars are wrong and while sometimes there is no choice [if you are attacked, you either defend yourself or die] no war is ever good - and definitely never fair.

There's only one king the other guy is just the Steward Also I think the good that's worth fighting for is the things like friendship, courage, beauty,love, growing things ....that sort of stuff

About the Ints, saying good morning might take a while but an anguished wail or a cry for help doesn't need to be long winded to be understood.

Theoden isn't perfect king, but he's certainly not bad even if slightly proud from time to time. The problem with calling for help was that he was right that alliances with elves and dwarves were basically dead at that point (not to mention that they couldn't come in large numbers anyway, this isn't explored in the movies, but they had battles of their own to fight). As far as Gondor goes, if I understand it correctly, Rohan did call for help in previous battles, and Gondor didn't come (probably didn't have enough forces either, keep in mind that they have barely enough to keep Mordor at bay and reclaim some of their own lost territories like Osgiliath) so Theoden was like ''why call them, they're not gonna come anyway''. It's wrong approach, but you can see where those decisions came from.

One more thing about the ents and Tolkien - The connection between the Ents & Germanic&Irish folklore lies in their origins. J.R.R. Tolkien was a scholar of several languages & cultures+Folklore. He drew inspiration from various mythological & folkloric traditions to create the extension of our own world of Middle-earth which was not to be differentiated from our own world. It was to be a distant past of our own. Connecting many of our own worlds truest origins that all tie together. The Ent are believed to be the 'tree spirit,' which was a common theme in Germanic folklore. In many Germanic cultures, trees were believed to be inhabited by spirits or gods, were revered as sacred. The Ents, as tree-like beings, embody this idea of the spirit of the trees. Furthermore, the name 'Ent' itself comes from the Old English word 'ent,' which means 'giant.' This is likely a nod to the Germanic mythological figure of the Jötun, or giants, who were often associated with the forests and natural world. Overall, the Ents are a representation of Tolkien's fascination with Germanic + Druidic folklore + mythology, and serves as a tribute to the rich cultural heritage of these ancient traditions. Think of the ways of the Druid & Druidess, I know a few from long lineages and others that have been initiated. (The term initiation is different in this context. As many things in our lives are initiations and graduations. Rights of passage etc.) many in a sense become like trees and even become one with trees etc; many being medicine men/women, shamanic skills honed over years and years of study and experience, being Healers and councillors is the life of a shaman, to protect nature and to help others learn how to give back to nature too.

Here. Let me tell you about the ents - Treebeard(Fangorn) In the Silmarillion, at the end of the chapter "Of Aule and Yavanna", Manwë states, "But in the forests shall walk the Shepherds of the Trees." This is before the chapter, 'Of the Coming of the Elves'. So, since Treebeard is one of the first three, he is beyond cool. And he is around before the elves arrive in Valinor. However, do not be deceived! The elves taught the Ents speech, even though they were around before. It is often mistaken that ents are trees or were once trees, when they are in fact are a sort of 4th children of Îlluvatar (AllFather) a creation of the Vala named Yavannah Treebeard refers to the elves "started it, teaching the trees to talk" or some such thing. He also refers to the elves curing the ent's "dumbness". People assume the two events are one and the same, when they are not. Obviously, Tolkien meant to be vague and allow the reader to decide what they looked like and just how ent-like huorns could become and how tree-like ents could become. But it is clear they are in the long lists of animals alongside men and harts and bears, etc., not plants. Gandalf tells Thèoden that when he meets Treebeard he will be meeting the oldest thing that ever walked. Which is another indication that the ents were around, shepherding the trees, before the elves got to Middle-earth. Tolkien meant to be vague. After all, Celeborn and Galadriel hail Treebeard as "Eldest" when they meet him in LOTR. However, when Treebeard is reciting the poem of the different being, he calls the elves the "eldest of all". So who do we believe? Gandalf? Remember: Treebeard was in middle earth before even Galadriel entered there during the zenith years of Arda and of the elves and even the early mighty dawn of men when they came upon the scene. • Celeborn is said by his wife Galadriel to be the wisest of elves left in Middle-earth especially due to the fact he was a close kinsman family member of Elu Thingol Of Doriath (of which Elwë[Thingol] was Galadriel’s grandfathers closest friend and literal brother. The only. To there to stay in middle earth) Galadriel is certainly one of the oldest, she came over with the very first migration to middle earth, but Celeborn may not be as old as she is. People who go in for the rough drafts of Tolkien's creative process have noted that he first appears in the house of Thingol Graycloak long after the elves came to Middle-earth. But the ents were here when the elves arrived. The Elves are the eldest race of Elves, Men and Dwarves. The Hobbits were not included in the mythology and neither were the Ents. This does not necessarily mean the Ents are actually older than the Elves, just that they were here before the Elves got here. Fangorn is the oldest living being in the world; and is the personification of nature of the world. But the undying lands where the Elves originated were removed from the Circles of the World. However, the author does imply Fangorn is older than either Celeborn or Galadriel, because Gandalf claims he is the oldest living thing in Middle-earth and the two elves themselves address him as "Eldest". A couple other things to consider, from Hammond and Scull: in an unpublished draft letter of late 1968, now in a private collection, Tolkien wrote: 'Eldest was the courtesy title of Treebeard as the oldest surviving Ent. The Ents claimed to be the oldest ’speaking people’ after the Elves [illegible] until taught the art of speech by the Elves...They were therefore placed after the dwarves in the Old List...since Dwarves had the power of speech from their awaking’ “The Lord of the Rings, A Reader’s Companion” Hammond and Scull, page 382 Treebeard: Entry 464 The Ent And on page 499, while explaining Tolkien describing both Treebeard and Bombadil as ’eldest’, Hammond and Scull note: ’...it is worth repeating Christopher Tolkien’s comment that his father was given to ’rhetorical superlatives’, such as ’the oldest living thing’.

Beards are a thing in dwarven culture. Long beards are a desirable trait among males so if their women have always been bearded then that would just be a normal trait for them and as a result we can speculate an attractive quality.

Sam waxed so poetically at the end of this and the first one

Elves, normally immortal, are shown having been killed in battle. What happens to them is complicated, like most things about Tolkien's lore. If I understand correctly, their spirits go to some sort of "Limbo," from which they might join the other elves in the "Undying Lands." Elrond will remain immortal regardless, but his daughter Arwen will die if she stays in Middle-Earth to be with Aragorn. A human father who shares his daughter's love with her man will still be able to visit her, but Elrond would live forever without ever seeing Arwen again. In the book, King Theoden has about 3000 men, not 300, for the battle at Helm's Deep. No elves come to help. Gandalf does arrive late with more men, as in the film. To increase the tension, I think the screenwriters made the battle seem more hopeless than it is portrayed in the book. (Full disclosure: I am reading the book for the first time in several years and haven't gotten to this point in the story.)

That was the whole point. At Edoras they were not fortified and that location could not be defended. Also it was too small to accommodate all the surrounding villages.

I could literally have typed again and again, 'not in the book'. For one thing, Gondor is hundreds of miles from Helm's Deep and is busy fighting anyway. The Dwarves were under attack in the North, the Elves of Lothlorien were repelling attacks as well. There was no one who could send help and certainly no one close enough to arrive before or during the battle. They had no idea there would be a battle until it was almost on them.

Yes good catch on the father from Fringe! He plays unhinged so well!

Yes, the elves are literally immortal. They can only die by violence or giving up the will to live, and even then they are eventually reincarnated in a new body. They are not allowed to die, but are forever tied to the world. One of the themes that runs through all of Tolkien's work is human's envy of the immortality, and the evils that come about when they try to claim or gain it for themselves. On the other hand, the elves believe that men have the better end of the deal, because when Men die, their souls eventually pass beyond the Earth and go on to some other unknown but presumably better and more meaningful existence.

Helm's Deep is a military fortress, it was never intended to house civilians in the manner they had to, Rohan on the other hand is much better due to its open plains where you can spot threats from a far distance and you have room to expand and farm. The downside being that you are easily surrounded in Rohan whereas to attack Helm's Deep you can really only assault from the front.

To making a movie like this you need to be in god level, directorwise. And he made this with like no money, compare tonthe othwr movies. This is the greatest work of all time from hollywood by far.

Helms Deep has a series of concentric walls ending in the mountains caves. So yes they can fall back and retreat further into the keep.

The elves are immortal, yes. The way it goes is if they die on middle earth they’ll eventually reform in a place called Valinor. At one time they could readily go from earth to Valinor and back, used in some wars to keep throwing them back in. But eventually Valinor was removed from earth due to the betrayal of man so then it became one way (otherwise Gandalf easily could’ve just returned cause that’s where he ended up too). The difference between Gandalf and the elves is that Gandalf (and all the Ainur) are true immortal as in they always existed, they weren’t born they just were. Elves were born and while immortal they are tied to earth and if earth was destroyed they’d cease to exist while the Ainur would still exist even if the universe died they’d be alive in the void (thus why Sauron can’t actually be destroyed but weakened)

Sam’s a terrible person? Sam is the hero of this tale. He was wise enough to see through Gollum’s charade

Also: love the shirt lmao so excited for you to watch the last one 🙏probably one of my favorite (if not my absolute favorite) universes/movies of all time and so happy you’re enjoying these specific movies thoroughly ☝️

regarding the significance of Elrond having a hard time letting Arwen go: The elves age very slowly. Their lifespan is till the end of the physical world. However, their physical bodies can be broken and die, from battle wounds for example. But when they die in that way, they return home to Aman. They almost never lose an Elf permanently: Any elf whose body is physically broken almost always gets to return home, and often they get a new body over there. They have only so far lost two permanently (in the entirety of their race's history). Those who choose mortality (by bonding with the physical world, as in through consummation with a mortal, and they are exceptionally few) lose the "benefits" of an immortal elf. They do not ever get to return home to Aman where they may see their own family again, rather they die as humans do, where after death it is completely unknown what happens. They are literally lost forever. So Elrond's difficulty with Arwen and Aragorn hooking up isn't the usual kind of just a father letting go... but rather knowing that he will never EVER see his daughter again after she dies, which is rare and unusual for his kind --- their entire people/culture/race is just so used to the idea that they will see each other again in the "afterlife" which is just their homeland in Aman. To them, it us unnatural and almost unheard of to think that one could be lost forever, and that is the path that Arwen is heading in.

Elves are immortal. They are the Firstborn. Born of Ilúvatar, not of the Valar, or of the Earth on which they were born. Even the Valar don’t know how they appeared. They just found the Firstborn.

I’ll tell you about the Entwives now - I know there were several hints in the books that there may be Ents/Entwives in the Old forest; Sam's cousin said he saw what looked like an Elm tree walking, & a few characters mention the similarities between Fangorn & the Old Forest. The Old Forest seems to be comprised of Huorn type trees. Is there any references in Tolkien's other work that would refer to the Entwives being in the Old Forest? Its nice to be able to imagine that the Entwives live close to the Shire, but wasn't sure if there was proof.. ❤️❤️❤️❤️ Tolkien writes in two of his letters that he does not believe the Ent Wives survived a ‘scorched earth' policy in the war against Sauron that ended the Second Age. There is a conversation between Sam & Ted Sandyman in the Green Dragon Inn in Chapter 2 of FOTR that discusses sightings of moving trees in the northern part of the Shire. Some have concluded this means Tolkien intended for Ent Wives to survive & be in the Shire. But there's not enough evidence to draw any conclusion. The fact is this part of LOT was written when it was still meant to be a children's book, a sequal to The Hobbit. Tolkien had also written that part before he developed Ents. I suggest reading the entry in its entirety, it should cover everything pretty well. Sam's cousin said he saw what looked like an Elm tree walking This is the best evidence. And Fangorn (Treebeard) is super interested when Merry and Pippin describe The Shire. He asks them if they've seen Entwives there (saying that they would like such a country), and when they depart he begs them to send news should they see any. In a nutshell, it seems likely that there may be Entwives in the forests of The Shire. I certainly like to think so, though there's no further mention of them According to Sam, Hal saw a "Tree-man" "bigger than a tree"; he also says that he was "as big as an elm tree, and walking - walking seven yards to a stride, if it was an inch." An adult elm tree can grow well beyond 100 feet in size. For comparison, Treebeard is describes as being "at least fourteen foot high". The length of his stride isn't given, but l've seen speculations between four and eight feet. Granted, other Ents could be bigger than him, and we don't know whether the Ent-wives were bigger than the male Ents; but unless they were almost ten times as big as their male counterparts, I don't think what Hal saw is likely to have been an Ent. To an uneducated, working class hobbit who is probably likely to exaggerate in pub story time, its possible that may have taken an Ent for a huge tree. much more possible than believing he lied, especially considering the hobbit didn't even know any such creature as a walking tree existed. Sure, but if we concede that the details are unreliable, then all we're left with is the second-hand, probably exaggerated story of a hobbit known for "always saying he's seen things". And if Hal's fantasy was lively enough to turn a Treebeard-sized Ent into a towering, 100-foot giant, it might as well have turned a tree and some shifting shadows into one. I'm not saying it's impossible, don't get me wrong. just think that the source of the rumor, combined with the fact that the details don't even fit very well, makes it rather unlikely to me. The evidence is sparse at best. 1 guess I just have irrational hope that the Entwives exist somewhere & in canon, that's the only likely place. Also, and this is super oblique... Samwise carries Galadriel's box of seeds back to The Shire. Remember, she read many hearts, and who knows what seeds and nuts may have been in that box. I’m by far not the only one who hopes beyond hope that the Entwives may still live somewhere. The Ents' story is quite a sad one if they don't. I personally take heart in Treebeard's words, and the Elvish song he recites. He says: We believe that we may meet again in a time to come, and perhaps we shall find somewhere a land where we can live together and both be content. But it is foreboded that that will only be when we have both lost all that we now have. And the Elves made a song of it that ends with the lines: Together we will take the road that leads into the West, And far away will find a land where both our hearts may rest. Maybe, just maybe, by whatever "road beneath the bitter rain" some Ents and Entwives found their way into the West. just don't think it very likely that Hal saw one in the North Moors. Also, and I hope you don't mind me mentioning it, but there was only one seed (& some earth) in Sam's box suddenly became the salt box in the movie) & that grew into a Mallorn tree. It replaced the party tree I believe. The Ents also are not trees, and I doubt they would have grown from seeds. Old Man Willow I think was a hourn, a really old tree that grows "entish" with age. The ents used to herd the horns like livestock, but without an ent to care for it in the old forest, It became violent and restless. (That last bit about the reason for its violence is a bit of my own head canon) ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ There's always the fun thought that Yavanna called them to Valinor to avoid their imminent fates when men/sauron took over, and the males were left behind to fight. I mean, Thave O evidence, but as far as head canon goes it makes me feel better than "they all died" I would like to think the Entwives survived but I believe they went to what in the third age was called the brown lands and built their gardens there. I think that the Hurons in The Old Forest (very close to the shire) somehow survived from the first age when the whole of eastern middle watch was covered in forests and as man settled and cut them down and Beleriand sunk they got separate and somehow survived. As long as there's no proof of them being extinct, I like to think they did :) A lot of things were meant for us to do our own work and be scholars just like him. Certain things were left open ended but in his very clever way. Also don’t forget the oath she swore to help Fangorn find Fimbrethil when Beleriand arises from the sea once more. She’d return and help him find her. And she meant it. And she had the largest and clearest foresight out of all the elves. ❤️

0:28 "You should have stayed fortified." This is one of the changes made from the book to the movie that made NO sense at all. When Theoden suggests they take refuge in Helm's Deep, Gandalf, Aragorn, et all nodded and basically said "yeah, sensible plan." Because it was a sensible plan. I mean, the establishing shorts of Edoras showed that place is NOT withstanding much of any sort of siege. It's a home. It's like comparing your house to a military bunker -- one of them is definitely more defensive. Helm's Deep was basically made to allow a smaller force to hold out against attackers. But they needed this to somehow be... "controversial?" Increase anxiety in the audience? Throw Theoden even more under the bus? So they gave Gandalf some real nonsense to say there. Absolutely unnecessary, just as the Ents initially refusing to attack Orthanc was unnecessary and illogical.

Yes, that is the actor from Fringe. The young Rohan leader that got Vanquished is one of the stars from "The Boys." Karl Urban. "Why do the tree need noses?" The Ents are not trees. They are tree herders. "I wish the two Kings would get together and fight the bad guys." Now, don't be Hasty Mr. Boyd.

To defend Faramir, in the books he never tries to take the ring. Isildurs story was also quite different but it was altered for the films

Props to Andy Serkis for bringing to life Gollum/Smeagol. You will want more.... Hope you enjoy the Hobbit trilogy after this

"why do the trees have noses?" asking the important questions arent we? hueuheuhe

"I would have put the Ring on by now." Those two did not have the Ring. The Ring was far away with Frodo and Sam.

fun fact, the scene that supposedly KILLED Aragorn almost killed his actor, Viggo Mortenson. also in the earlier scene when he kicked a decapitated head, he broke his toe, which led to that scream of frustration when they thought Merry and Pippin died.

The Ring is corrupting by nature. If they put the Ring on, the other guy (Sauron) will find them.

8:00 "Okay, why are they not permanently here?" Because of the horses. The people of Rohan are culturally a horse-centered society, known to other peoples as "the Horse Lords of Rohan." A stone keep hewed into a mountainside is an extremely uncomfortable place for horses. Great for a short-term refuge of a people who refuse to bow the knee to would-be conquerors, but long-term, they prefer the open plains with the free air, and their horses actually *need* those open plains and free air.

The actors of the fellowship all have a matching tattoo its the elvish language for the number 9

The ring Cursed Gollum and his good side and his bad side are now always at odds with one another, and he doesn't know which way to go. So, yes, he is talking to himself but in his head, this is real and he's been tortured by the rings curse forever to be like this.

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Yes that is Walter Bishop from Fringe terrific TV show

You guessed it. Elves are immortal. When she was seeing the death of the king while talking to her father, I think they would have the decency to wait till after the funeral to bury him.🤣 Elrond didn't want his daughter to only loved him, he wanted her to love an elf. Another Immortal being.

My man didn’t just call Sam a terrible person lol

The next one indeed is the big payoff. It got 11 oscars, tied for the most all time. This movie adds in a bit of tension where it wasn't in the books. The ends decide to go to war rather quickly, and don't need to be tricked into. Also, faramir (boromirs brother) never wants to take the ring. From the moment he knows Frodo has it, he wants to help him. These add a bit of drama which are important for a movie, that aren't necessary for the experience of reading a book, where you get much more time to develop the characters. Unfortunately it changes the really solid motives of those two. Also, you should do voice overs. Seriously. You have a great voice that could do adverts really well if you don't already.

Lady Arwen gave up her eternal life, but she will still live far longer than Aragorn, who has a longer life than regular men.

LOVE the shirt!

Enjoying this but please make the reactions a bit longer like other creators do, these movies deserve it !! Cheers!

Ain't no WAY he called sam a terrible person.

why do the trees have noses?....so they smell fire duhhhhh 🤣

Elrond tiene miedo de dejar a su hija sola en el mundo de los mortales y cree que sufrirá y que estará sola y llena de dolor al final de su vida...Además, piensa que no volverá a verla, porque si ella sigue el destino de los humanos, quedará separada para siempre de los elfos....es doloroso saber que ni en vida ni en la muerte volverás a ver a tu querida hija ( Elrond tiene 2 hijos varones, pero solo una hija) ( y Galadriel es su abuela, madre de la esposa de Elrond)

I haven't read the books, so I don't know a lot about the other human/man kingdoms. As far as I know, it's only Gondor, which technically Aragon would be the King of if he ever revealed his identity. Right now, what Gondor has is a Steward until an heir to the throne comes. Don't know why there is a Steward as I believe they think the line is dead, so I think they should have a new family. Anyway, point is, no King to ask. Only the Steward and I don't know if it was mentioned in this that the Steward is Borimirs father, that guy who is a dick. So.... don't think he would have been much help

Elves can die in battle, but not of old age. After all, Elrond is more than 3,000 years old.

Bro dont understamd that every pesent had to fight. Theaodrn good boy

With all due respect to Mr. Boyd, Theoden is my King.

Just one bad take after another. Probably the worst of which is referring to Sam as a terrible person. 🥴

why didnt they team up to fight the 10 Thousand Orcs? ahahahahahahaha youll see. maybe.

Think you forgot the "PART 2" in the title.

Think of golem/smeagol having split personalities.

the forest was not there

It seems to me you're following along with the movie very well. Great reaction.

Ents are ancient centient trees i dont know there origins but im sure it has a divine origin

I think helms deep is just a defensive position, i dont think the lands are enough for food compared to open plains of rohan, maybe im just talkin poop who knows

Just a heads up, Mr Boyd. Edit the title of this video to include the words 'Part 2' so people don't get confused. I didn't get confused and have to check on your previous uploads. Not me. No. Nope. Never...

You would be a good partner In dungeons and dragons

Can we hear more than we're hearing?

The only sad part about your LOTR reactions, is that you didn't choose the Extended edition. I only just now noticed it because I saw a few scenes missing. That edition has so much more interesting story in it .. Still love your reactions though ..

Immediate like before I watch the video!

You either forgot to identify this as part two of your reaction in the title or you couldn't fit it.

Theoden did the best he could. Many died. If he hadn't did what he did then all would have died. As far as help from Gondor, when hours matter help is just days away. Gollum is a pitiful character. Sméagol was a good but weak person who was corrupted by the ring until almost no good was left. He deserves a chance at redemption, but at the end of the day some are just too far gone and are irredeemable.

This dude is slow on making inferences. The glow was because Frodo could see in the spirit realm with the One Ring. Of course Elves are immortal. For Elrond to help man he'd have to sacrifice all his people. There aren't many elves in his realm of Rivendell. Dude removed the Ride of the Rohirrim. Dude chooses death. jk lol.

Technically we had two Kings of Men talking in this movie. Denethor, Boromir & Faramir's father, is NOT the king of Gondor, only its Steward. Aragorn is the legitimate heir to the Throne of Gondor. While the movie does a lousy job of conveying this, even if Theoden had sent word to Gondor for aid, they would not have arrived before the battle of Helm's Deep was concluded.

Glad you're enjoying the journey through Middle Earth! The Two Towers was not my favorite of the three, hopefully the last one will really knock your socks off! Thanks for sharing your reactions and comments with us!!