SELLING PRINTS - The Uncomfortable Truth with Photography

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Today we are talking about how you can approach selling prints, make money with photography and discuss an uncomfortable truth that can’t be ignored.
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@GPadugan 2 жыл бұрын

I've sold my prints to studios for prop pictures on the walls in movies and TV. I've also sold to art buyers for use in buildings and lobbies. As a designer, I've been on the other side of the table selecting the work that will go into a space. and it comes down to one thing. random luck. there is nothing you can do. your work is either going to resonate or it isn't and the reasons why or why not are simply infinity random. Don't try to sell. just produce what you want, how you want, and put it out there. No one is going to like what you think is good for any of the reasons you think it's good, and they are not going to not like what you think is bad either. they will buy or like based on something that has nothing to do with the actual image or how it was created. scarcity really only works once you have a name. remember, prints are the art and art is a silly thing. the mechanic down the street got an oil spot on a white canvas by accident. is it art? you bet. is it rare? sure is, only one like it. Is it worth anything? Funk no.

@problemxhunter 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with this all my work that would get me hired as a photography were things I wanted to shoot with no intention of originally showing it or making money

@huntstyle Жыл бұрын

I think you're right. My most profitable photo was a license deal I did, and the photo was nothing special. But it was exactly what they were looking for, and there weren't any others out there like it.

@the_useless_photographer 2 жыл бұрын

OK if you're Peter McKinnon and can sell for $1300 a print but non names such as myself, no hope. I found that getting a well paid job and doing photography as a hobby only is better, easier and less stressful, making photography a joy rather than a pressure.

@huwalban 2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree with this view. Additionally, we cannot escape the fact that Adam (wisely and smartly) is using his KZfaq channel as a marketing platform for his print sales. And fair play to him by the way! So each week we are going to see a "here is the new addition to the Continuum" to push the audience at a potential print sales purchase? Quite clever.

@Imhotep397 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely agree with this. Landscape photography sadly has never been a commodity for many collectors. It will be interesting to see how this develops.

@remontheroad 2 жыл бұрын

It's all about the name, it has always be and will always be. It's up to you if you want the easy way or ready to put yourself at risk. I don't go against your point of view, but it's all about what you want in life.

@dieterthephotographer 2 жыл бұрын

@@cmahoney_photo i can relate!

@anta40 2 жыл бұрын

@@Imhotep397 well... unless you are Ansel Adams... :D

@rickgray6960 2 жыл бұрын

Love your honesty. I remain addicted to all aspects of photography. When I am behind the camera lens, nothing else exists! It is my meditation and passion. I sell very few which is perfectly fine.

@IanSmithFotografi 2 жыл бұрын

I live in Sweden and sell prints. I don’t think I have sold 1 print unless the individual is connected to the location in some way. It’s never random. For example my recents sales, were a couple that got married in the exact spot, a man who played on the rocks as a child and a photo that a grieving mother felt reminded her of her late son.

@14reasons58 4 ай бұрын

that's the way it always is. even when it's 'not', it is. the subconscious mind dictates more than the conscious

@montezkerr2403 2 жыл бұрын

What I have come to realize about selling you prints is that the person making the image is more important than the image itself. A buyer wants to have a name behind an art piece. So it comes down to marketing. Cameras and software have really leveled the playing field in terms of creating images. You have to either be fairly well known, have a substantial following or created an emotional connection with a buyer. If you have not achieved one of those criteria you are in most cases going to fail.

@petemellows Жыл бұрын

That’s what Warhol realised. His art was nothing special, but his name was everything and everywhere.

@bugsygoo 2 жыл бұрын

When I studied photography at college, one of our teachers drilled into us that success as a photographer was mostly down to how good you were at marketing yourself. The best photographers in the class were probably not going to be the most successful. I'm crap at marketing myself, so I am not a professional photographer 😭

@applebutter4036 Жыл бұрын

This is so true that it cannot be drilled in enough. Nobody buys something they don't even know exists and sometimes even knowing it exists isn't enough. Skilled persuasion is something companies pay a lot for.

@Mindsi 5 ай бұрын

Boris J, bojo😂😂😂😂😂

@timothyleatham536 2 жыл бұрын

I am a member of a cooperative gallery in my home town here in New Zealand. This has enabled me to get exposure ( no pun intended ) of my photography. I sell my photography framed in the gallery and then this year made a calendar with a special series of images that I'm now working with. The framed images don't sell quickly, however the calendars sold out in a few weeks, I have also been working on the concept of making my images "limited editions". The fact that being in a actual gallery means people do really come in and look, this has led to some external work for me in the way of commission work for clients who otherwise would not know I existed. I guess we have to try to come up with alternate ways to get sales, trial and error till we find the formula that works.

@KayGill 2 жыл бұрын

Where about s in New Zealand are you? I’m here in little old Levin

@sawlens 2 жыл бұрын

I started selling prints last year in May and I sold 25 prints for the year. I attended only 5 events, 2 of which where I didn't sell any. I did luckily get a client who wanted several metal prints for his business. This last weekend I attended 2 day art show event and I sold 6 prints with requests for 2 more, so it's a good start to the year. I've only sold one print online so overall I've found that selling prints in-person is more successful than online. It was a big initial investment. I had to buy a table, table cloth, 10x10 canopy, pvc pipe which I used to make 2 frames to display photos, business cards, 2 portable lights for late night events, a business license, easels for displaying prints on table, totes for transporting prints, Square card reader, and finally the prints themselves. I frame my larger prints (16x24). I figure prints sell better when a customer does not have to go out to find and buy a frame for a print. No one has held up a frame and judged it, they only judge the print itself so I use cheap frames. I started off my prints at pretty low prices where I was not making much so I'm trying higher prices this year to see how they sell. If I was uncertain of how well a print would sell. I would start off with a small version to see how it would do. A print may not sell immediately but if it gets lots of compliments I would know it has potential to be sold as a larger print and at a higher profit.

@JohnDrummondPhoto 2 жыл бұрын

You're right that most print buyers are non-photographers and they tend to buy prints that have personal meaning to them. While on vacation in touristy areas, I've visited art and photo galleries owned by local artists, who sell their work to tourists. There are also those who market their art through art galleries that sell for them and take commissions. I guess one other option is outreaching to corporations or organizations whose missions match your genre. You see interesting art or photography in a lobby or office hallway, they bought it from somewhere. Find out where, and maybe try to drum up interest from that vendor.

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

that’s an excellent point John. Finding businesses that want to be seen to be supporting the arts are definitely worth tracking down.

@NathalieAnnoye 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know if this exists in your country, but in Belgium, many shopkeepers (perfumeries, restaurants, hotels etc.) regularly invite photographers to exhibit their work on their walls. This allows them to decorate their walls for free, while making the photographers believe that they will sell something, but this rarely happens. So be careful with this. If the shopkeeper really buy, it's perfect

@BradHolkesvig 2 жыл бұрын

Some photographers are also very good salesmen. Some artists are very good salesmen. Some salesmen can sell anything to anyone. It's not necessarily the product that people buy, it's the salesmen who get them to by the product. If you want to make a lot of money selling your photos, you also need to become a great salesmen which is another learning process that most people will not pursue.

@derekwillson2538 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant idea Adam, I'm sure images 1 and two will be snapped up instantaneously. I first came across your work 6 years ago when you put out "How to do Water drop photography" and have followed you ever since. Your constant willingness and drive to put out new ideas and be supportive of others is brilliant, thanks for all you do, Derek

@GPadugan 2 жыл бұрын

this isn't a new idea. it's literally how art galleries work. you sell a limited 10 pieces / prints. first one sells for 1X. the second sells 2X and so on. Every time a sale is made the price is raised. This creates value and buzz. the last person paid the most, but the next time that artist has a show, the initial price will typically start higher. so when you see a piece of art selling for a million, that's how it got there (assuming it wasn't created by someone already famous) that pushes things up quicker.

@justinmeaden6281 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting video and a lovely location resulting in a gorgeous photo. Well done. I also think this is a great idea for selling prints, wish I was quicker off the mark watching though as editions still available just way outside my price range so now I am aware, will definitely be watching your videos as soon as their released, which can’t be bad for your KZfaq algorithms too.

@Vahagraphy 2 жыл бұрын

Very good video. Very educational for sure. Thank you for sharing.

@Z_EOS 2 жыл бұрын

Why dont we think about images like we think about paintings. Spend more time on each image, push your limits and sell only one copy... In a month.. If you now sell one image in a month it is no different... But the quality and feeling of buyer is changed... I think the biggest problem of today in landscape photography is that there is to many images around and big percentage of it is nothing special. The easiest way how to help ourselves and others is by producing less quantity and focus on quality.

@NickBarang 2 жыл бұрын

I love what you're saying re supporting each other. The challenge comes with space. I love printing my own work... and I only have a small apartment with maybe half-a-dozen slots for prints (without overwhelming the space). I love to buy other people's photobooks, because they fit in my life, but prints? I just don't have room for them. I can't tell you how much pleasure I get from having images on my walls, I wish I had more space...

@howardrankin7119 2 жыл бұрын

That’s a very real constraint. I would love to buy more prints ( and print more of my work) but space is finite. I know one can collect prints and keep them in boxes or folios but that is not making the most of the art imho.

@jeff97-polar 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting video, Adam. Good luck with this endeavour, and I would love if you could keep us updated on how this goes for you.

@seasterl 2 жыл бұрын

You are an incredible artist and have the mind of a true photographer. To me, this is what photography is all about. Thanks for sharing your work and thoughts and being an inspiration.

@simeonbennettphotography9111 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative video Adam 👌👏always love your presentation and work. As a photographer I struggle to sell prints too. I really like your new idea on your website 👍

@yuriajones 2 жыл бұрын

Great video... you touched on several good points and covered them well. I don't sell as much as I would like. It does take quite a bit of work to market prints to different groups of people, including home décor professionals, large institutions (hotels, hospitals, etc) and individual buyers. I also loved how you created scarcity with this new series. Good luck to you!

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

thanks. much appreciated

@PatrickDodds1 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video Adam - very helpful and honest.

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@RobDevery 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you see through the NFT crap.

@hartsphotography 2 жыл бұрын

What a fascinating idea and good to see someone trying something new, i hope you tell us how it goes, either good or bad in a future episode.

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

definitely

@PMCN53 2 жыл бұрын

An interesting concept Adam, As an example of this, I did a photography tour to Lofoten in Feb 2020 (before Epidemic). Traveling from Australia was long but worth the effort and $$$. The assistant on the tour was a Local landscape photographer who was trying to make his mark as a landscape photographer. He captured an image from a location in Rein in Autumn, the same location I did in Winter. I wanted to support him so I spent $600+ AUS for an A2 print. It then cost me another $300AU to have it mounted & framed. Yes it was quite expensive but I wanted to promote & support a good fellow photographer, now the print sits proudly in my living room. Doing this kind of thing continuously is unaffordable. Your concept would be so much more achievable and affordable. Looking forward to seeing how it works out. Cheers.

@ScottRae 2 жыл бұрын

Spot on again Adam... good video and great idea - always got to try to float something new in the marketplace! Ahhh selling prints though.... I talk a great game - can talk myself into anything! :D I was lulled into a false sense of relevance by a few lucky sales off a local facebook page all around the same time, making me cocky and giving me grand ideas of taking this hobby to the next step, selling prints, and not just my photography actually starting to pay for itself, but maybe..... doing it professionally. I talked myself into buying the large format A1 printer when the big commercial print shops repeatedly failed to deliver undamaged prints, and the local ones couldn't give me the quality I wanted. I'd priced everything, but, when push came to shove, I was too scared to push it. Lack of self confidence the biggest factor, but also the number of good photographers who just undervalue their work - not even selling it at cost. A local landscape photographer has opened a high street gallery in the last year - which might also have dampened my enthusiasm as someone got there before me (hahaha, sure...!) It's an incredibly brave thing to do, especially now, and his work is excellent - you might just have talked me into buying from a fellow tog! Because he DOES deserve the support! (and maybe I'll try selling printing as a service? (I've got all that priced up too!) Or maybe selling him my printer... :'D

@PictorialWhispers 2 жыл бұрын

Very smart and clever marketing plan. I wish you well and hopefully this works well for you. I will be following along in your journey.

@adam.foster Жыл бұрын

Great video Adam and great idea with the continuum prints, I think you're onto something. Did it work?

@pamchandler1321 Жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this video and respect his analysis of selling prints, he has given us another brush stroke that helps paint a picture regarding sales. We need different angles, and I am sure that we will find and share other angles as well.

@pun1shment 2 жыл бұрын

that is an awesome idea Adam! I would love to get in on this idea! les see how that can happen!

@Neil-Aspinall Жыл бұрын

I think another way of presenting prints is to putting attention into framing. Whilst black or white frames always work there is so much scope in alternatives. I search markets for old frames, clean them up or paint to suit the image. Most photographers will not go to this effort, if you do this yours will stand out at exhibitions and gallery's. The frame in my opinion is part of the art.

@josephjspencer Жыл бұрын

This is a great idea. Adds a lot to the creative process and therefore the final product.. nice idea!

@carlreid4161 2 жыл бұрын

That’s a great image Adam well worth being out in the cold and what a marvellous way to start the day. The blue and the gold in the water are a really nice contrast.

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@samevans7753 2 жыл бұрын

Great work & initiative.

@FabienMathey 2 жыл бұрын

Superb video and a superb idea for business. Lets hope it works out great! Thank you!

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

I hope so too! thanks

@ChesterTugwell 2 жыл бұрын

That's a great image. V much enjoyed this video Adam.

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

@howardrankin7119 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting and generous approach Adam

@AndyBanner 2 жыл бұрын

Great video and an important message too.

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you kindly

@MrQuirke9 2 жыл бұрын

A lesson I've learned is similar to what you were saying about not loving the image on the day. I've often felt that way, even after the fact, but often find once I start an edit I start to appreciate the image a lot more

@timothylabrecque8589 2 жыл бұрын

This os a great project Adam, if we dont start supporting each other less and less work will make it into the physical realm. Great topic and inspiring. Im going to start suggesting this on my channel as well. , ofc will give credit where due. Beautiful photo by the way

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely. The more this model is replicated the more it will build a community of people buying physical prints and artwork.

@GeorgeLoch 2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to the next Continuum print. I like to frame my images and want to start framing prints of other photographers and want to get one of yours for that purpose. Totally agree that having a connection with a location or an image is a key to selling prints. I also wonder about images that speak more to aesthetics like colors, patterns, and textures that could mesh with interior design styles. It's not an approach every landscape photographer will love, but it could be another space to explore.

@DanRaines 2 жыл бұрын

I agree that a community should exist.

@timscanlanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Adam. You've nailed this issue here, particularly around the NFT bubble. Selling prints is a tough old game and I'll never make enough money to allow my mrs to retire! :)

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

ha yeah. photography is certainly not something someone should take up for the money.

@JohnHPettigrewFujishooter67 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Adam,heading over to instagram now, thanks for sharing.

@GirdHerd Жыл бұрын

I couldn't "see" that image when you were talking about it in the video but the print is beautiful.

@myatesphotography 2 жыл бұрын

Great video and a cracking idea Adam , would always be great to sell more prints . I'm hoping to restart my KZfaq channel and my have a try at this . Thank you.

@rosssayer6524 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your ideas Adam, I find my calendars work very well each year and they are limited to 100 copies, then I’m not trying to make a living out of photography. Good luck with your initiative and I thought the image you captured was very sellable 🙌👏👏

@TheAegisClaw 2 жыл бұрын

It's always been difficult to sell landscape work. I used to do lots of aspects of photography and made most money from freelance newspaper work and weddings. Next best income stream was portraits and the worst of all was landscapes. Although they're what I spent most time on and enjoyed most.

@gregmolchan1202 2 жыл бұрын

Innovative idea indeed. I'm excited to see how this plays out.

@CoffeeandPhotographyTalk 2 жыл бұрын

Very truthful presentation. The root of the issue is that no one, no matter what they think, can ever really OWN anything digital because; 1. they can't own the software that displays it, 2. they can't control the manufacturers of the hardware that stores it and 3. they cannot control the formats changing over time. It just cannot be controlled; all of those issues are collective, not individual. A print is a THING that you can possess and as such, the traditional concept of ownership applies to it. Great vid once again!

@petemellows Жыл бұрын

I like the idea of selling a limited run - it’s something I have recently started doing myself. I also like the idea of the “reproduction” where a lesser quality print is available cheaply, much like Lino cuts and screen prints.

@wanderingambience799 2 жыл бұрын

I love your videos and your personality resonates with many people. Thanks for talking about this topic in particular. In my experience the print selling only makes the host websites or online sellers money, fees we pay to place our images on their sites. Year after year, we sell nothing but pay subscription fees. Very sad. I like the Squarespace idea nd your model...

@ThatGamingGuyfromthe70s 2 жыл бұрын

For me when it comes to one off pieces of photography, especially landscapes, these are intrinsically tied to memories of a place, by buying someone else's depiction of a scene it's equivalent to buying someone else's memory. My photo will be less technically proficient but it will be the scene as I saw it. I am much more likely to purchase an abstract or similar to hang on a wall. For other photographers work I buy books which have been carefully curated to tell a story of a place.

@peterfritzphoto 2 жыл бұрын

100%

@findermanimages 2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with this. I have many framed photos on my wall which I have taken. They are not of a professional standard but they are mine and I can recall where I stood, how it felt and why I took them. They are more than just images; they are reminders of a time gone by and the feelings I felt in that moment. I have many coffee table photo books that I used as reference material for days where inspiration and motivation is lacking. They are great value for money too :-)

@huntstyle Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. I haven't bought a single photo from another photographer for this very reason. And if I go visit a location and don't come away with an image I feel worthy of putting on my wall, I simply don't have an image from that trip on my wall! I don't buy another photographer's work, even when it's really incredible, simply because I wasn't there in that moment. That was a different moment and different experience than what I had. I just can't connect to it the same.

@salmonfly6186 8 ай бұрын

Brilliant idea mate. I cant sell my photos, my family members have bought 1or 2 but that’s it. I won’t give in though, I love landscape photography so I will just enjoy it but it’s costly, fuel, erly mornings but when I’m there looking at the seen that’s good enough for me.

@terrynewmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting and admirable initiative Adam. I’ve just started printing primarily for my own enjoyment. I’ve been drawn in to setting up a website and offering prints etc. For a gift, I made my own mounted print and bought a decent quality frame and asked a couple of family members what they would expect to pay and they both said lower than the production cost. Herein lies the issue, photographs have become a commodity where the expectation of price is so low, many expect a price that in reality is below cost. There’s also as you said the feeling of an image, often different from a photographer’s eye to that of a consumer. Then the feeling of value. Plenty are interested in a framed photo on their wall but some have a low budget or quite happy with a £7 frame from the high street and an expectation of low price print on the assumptions that you’re printing on £150 all in one office inkjet. For pros, I guess that’s why there’s diversity in your offerings; videos, workshops, tutorials, subscriptions, sponsorships etc.

@scotty4418 2 жыл бұрын

Thought the image turned out great Adam and like your idea for creating scarcity and hope it is a success for you. I know buying printed images will differ in terms of buying a book with images in them but taking your book as an example the opportunity of seeing all your images in a printed format in your book was excellent value for money in my opinion

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate.

@MBDronePhoto Жыл бұрын

Love the idea of scarcity and time.

@mzanotti 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice video!

@brianbeattyphotography 2 жыл бұрын

This is very valid regarding the flooding of the market. I've found that my best selling prints are abstracts and unusual locations/subjects. Any of my images from Yosemite, Rocky Mountain National Park, etc. generally don't get any attention. I'm sure the primary reason for that is that there are just so many images and prints of these locations... plus I'm not nearly as good as the greats! haha

@jdg6336 2 жыл бұрын

I think thats true. Most my work is from Japan. I didnt really try to sell photos in Japan because they were not so exotic or eyecatching to Japanese. I returned to USA due to covid. I went to the photo print place. All desert sunsets ect on the wall. Hopefully my work will stand out here. Or I think cities like New York or Berlin would be better markets. See what happens.

@malcolmrendle6622 2 жыл бұрын

Very good video Adam and deals with a subject many other photographers don't want to admit to. I fully agree with your observations about why it is hard to sell images....Everyone is a "photographer" these days and therefore the value of a good photograph is not understood.....I have often wondered how professionals finance themselves when you see a Vlog of somebody driving for several hours to a location... getting out their £5000+ new mirrorless camera take a couple of good landscapes then go home... to presumably sell for what must be a huge price to just cover the expenses of the day let alone make a living.....always amazes me how they do it...... I can only assume that they support themselves with running courses.....Glad to see that you are still with the 5DmkIV

@MrCochise71 2 жыл бұрын

This is spot on! I shoot for Cabela's here in Utah and other outdoors retail places here. While I'd prefer only my prints that's just not going to happen. Great vid bud. But it does allow me to be outdoors shooting either way.

@pamchandler1321 Жыл бұрын

Also, I have had great luck selling local photos locally because I live in a tourist area. I also participate in local art shows. Doing this has given me the opportunity to make great local connections and have regular clients. Best of luck.

@gregoryoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

Dobrze powiedziane Adam, fajny pomysl. Super zdjecie! Pozdrowionka z Edinburgha

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. Much appreciated.

@Snapit551 2 жыл бұрын

The internet and the digital era has destroyed a lot of photography careers

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

And made quite a few. The disruption from technology is gonna continue strongly over the next 10-20 years. Reckon it’s key to continually try and put yourself out business before someone else does.

@petertragardh4571 2 жыл бұрын

I am incredibly interested in how this will unfold. Will it work? I really hope you keep us updated. This is a really innovative way to do business.

@aslater4385 2 жыл бұрын

I like your thinking and I hope it goes well.

@williamcurwen7428 2 жыл бұрын

The assumption that just because someone has the gear and calls themselves a fine art photographer while thinking they can make prints that will sell without achieving the kind of cultural acknowledgment that takes years and years of hard work and dedicated commitment to articulating a uniquely intelligent vision is simply untenable. It is not going to happen, and it is harder now than ever before.

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

Happily it is the market that decides who succeeds. Personally I believe that if more of us started buying photography it would become a meritocracy again and the cream would rise to the top (not the case with social media). Everyone should be entitled to participate though without being discouraged by the negative energy of others. You’re right though, hard work and skill play a big part.

@ernie548 Жыл бұрын

Its difficult, to say it mildly, but possible. Look at the high paid leaders starting with Peter Lik. There is a solid dozen up in that range. Its art and its not straight forwards. Sometimes too hard too far for many of us. Musicians, painters, printers, dancers, writers, it goes on. I think in my own work, and after being a product marketing manager in a silcon valley tech company for 13 years, I have settled my nerves. Nothing wild, but I have learned what folks talk about and what they will pay for are two different things. What that has taught me is the truth, is not obvious to find and not easy. Its is usually fraught with unspoken things that are 'gray' and very hard to make tangible. Ergo, the great salesman.

@Dahrenhorst 2 жыл бұрын

I also think that scarcity is one of the major drivers to motivate someone to buy a photograph. However, you can make your work as scarce as you want, if you don't happen to be on the right time at the right place and meet the right person, you won't sell much nevertheless. Scarcity alone is not the solution, creating opportunities to show your pictures is at least as important.

@yopispo5 6 ай бұрын

Nice shot, the one of the lake.

@samuelcarr3209 2 жыл бұрын

My first view of your videos and I am now subscribed. You make some great points and I like your marketing idea and hope it works well for you. Locally I find it difficult to sell framed images because the cost of presentation (framing, matting and printing) and the gallery fee (upwards of 40-45%) mean there is little remaining for my time to make it worthwhile. I have had better luck with smaller matted only prints and sell quite a few note cards of local interest, most likely because of price point that they are impulse and not an expensive thought out purchase. Unfortunately for professionals who are trying to make a living selling their prints I am an avid non-professional who enjoys the experience and selling my work, so I may be art of a bigger problem. I do however value my time and don't want to sell my images or prints for next to nothing.

@erniebrandt9762 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting plan. I think it could be a good idea, and hope it works out for you. So far photography has been just a hobby for me, and will continue to be primarily so. I don’t intend to quit my regular job, because then I think it would be more stressful than enjoyable for me to take pictures. However, I have been considering selling some of my work, and maybe doing local family portraits for a fee, which I think has the potential for generating more income. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience on the business side of landscape photography!

@blazejbch Жыл бұрын

Many interesting thoughts in the video and comments. Thanks for that. I look at the topic from two sides - I studied photography and worked professionally a bit. I also enjoy art and craft and am happy to decorate my home with stuff I admire. I just hope it won't sound harsh, but my thought is that landscape photography is a great hobby and not so great art. Mostly it does not provoke any emotions beyond being "a nice shot of a nice place". We have it everywhere now. In magazines, commercials, instagram, hotels, chain restaurants. Landscape pictures are "safe" and do not offend anyone, so they kind of serve the same purpose as elevator music. Also, this type of pictures are currently too perfect. And perfection can kill emotions, make things boring. So I'd rather buy an imperfect drawing that has something unique and touching in it, than a perfectly exposed and composed picture. Because I can take one myself (just maybe not so ideal). I bet that's why some people explore pinhole or lomo... to run away from this overwhelming technical perfectionism that floods us, but has very little to do with our personal experiences, thoughts, desires. When I see a good landscape picture, I feel like I'd love to take it, I'd love to be in this place - but I don't think about buying it, because it has nothing to do with my own past, my own life. Then there is also a nostalgic and documentary aspect of landscape photography - pictures of places that changed drastically over time. Those will be very valuable in few decades, but maybe hard to sell now. All the best!

@alastairtheduke Жыл бұрын

I agree. I think this is why 'artsy' photography is inherently more valuable than landscape photography as it can serve as art on its own. Even something like street photography represents a moment in time that will truly never be duplicated. Think of the iconic soldier kissing the girl in NYC after the war. We all know that photo. It has scarcity built into it. Even street photography that captures some funny or odd moment is inherently more valuable than landscape photography. Landscape photography moves the photographer, not necessarily he viewer and rarely the buyer.

@markjutsum6187 2 жыл бұрын

Really strong truths. In the field feelings for a scene can be so different when at the PC both positive and negative so just take the shot, what is there to loose? MJ

@trevorhansen4943 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@willyonamountain 2 жыл бұрын

The frosty reeds in the foreground of the pond photo are beautiful.

@carlinschelstraete682 2 жыл бұрын

I think your sales idea is great. This could shift perception. You're right on regarding the print market.

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

appreciate the comment. thanks.

@TimberGeek 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like an interesting idea, I'd like to get into printing this year but I'll have to take stock once I've secured the materials I need to regrade the driveway and cut the frame for the front entry

@davidscottblacksmith 2 жыл бұрын

Trouble is most amateur photographers are not half as good as they think they are. However other photographers feel obligated to compliment their efforts. Everybody today think they’re a worthy photographer.

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

I agree. So let’s put our money where our mouth is and starting raising up those that have genuine value (I don’t mean me).

@teamdata 2 жыл бұрын

Respect your honesty.

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I try.

@LightspeedVideo Жыл бұрын

Well thought out. I might try something in this vein if that’s okay. Just starting with prints.

@Firstmanphotography Жыл бұрын

You definitely don't need my permission. Go for it!!

@arbee1958 2 жыл бұрын

"Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life". Many believe this and tend to automatically try to make a living from their passion. For myself I see that ANY passion turned into a business is primarily a *business*. ... not an art. for some time you will be CEO, CIO, Accounts and Marketing exec managing bookings , postage , insurance , tax compliance , HR if you have employees... all pulling you away from shooting - as well you open your photography to commercial pressures. If you love the cut and thrust of business life (as many do) then this isn't that great an issue - but if you are not that way inclined -you will find upwards of 70% of your time is spent managing the business.

@f1pitpass 2 жыл бұрын

love the idea ! love the Roseberry Topping stuff ( I flew and filmed it last November) and as a Boro' lad I always try and support other North East enterprises. Subbed

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. UTB.

@PrimalShutter 2 жыл бұрын

Flickr used to give the sense of support from other photographers in the beginning

@paulcomptonpdphotography 2 жыл бұрын

What an amazing way to sell. Good Luck I am sure you will do great with this.

@andybaden9276 2 жыл бұрын

Another great vlog, Seems like a good idea to try and sell some prints, the price jump may put a few people off, I wonder how many others will copy this idea.

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

If it works, I hope many.

@kernzilla 9 ай бұрын

Good info m8, appreciate it. Was hoping to learn bit more about your backend setup with web/gallery info, squarespace cart integration, etc. any info you could supplement on this? Thx

@lv8pv 2 жыл бұрын

If youtube had a filter to filter out all the CRAPSPACE sponsored videos. I would not watch one of them again period!

@Ruscombephotos 2 жыл бұрын

I love the idea of Continuum and I wonder if that would be a good way for a photographer who wants to sell prints for the first time, like me. I have a site on Squarespace, but have not upgraded it to having a store, but would like to. I have a bit of a problem in the US in that I would be obliged to collect sales tax for customers living in New York City and New York State and then having to pay that tax to the city and state, etc. I need to take advice on that. But I do love your idea of supporting each other as photographers and if this is a way to do it, together with some sort of platform, I think this will be great.

@grega9220 Жыл бұрын

New follower and loveing the channel. I've been thinking about this limited edition process as well. Trouble is I have a very popular image, I sale lots of, that would be great as limited edition... but I just cant make myself do it.. :-D

@kajanan_nithiyananthan 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I love the idea of Continuum, creating scarcity with your prints is a good way to approach this issue. And I love that I can be rewarded by purchasing a print quickly. The only issue is that because I know you’re selling a print for £35 at the cheapest, I might not be willing to pay £200-300 so you might always sell 1 or 2 of a print but not the 3-5 (if that makes sense)? Also love the idea of supporting other photographers, I can’t wait to have an actual job with an income so I can support my favourite artists

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

You’re right. Part of the experiment is price discovery for what other photographers will pay for photography…….well, mine at least.

@vlindertje235 2 жыл бұрын

@@Firstmanphotography will you be sharing the results of your sales after a while? I'm very curious how this will work out!

@Redserpent2000 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Adam, I wish you the very best with "continuum".

@DanielePauletto 2 жыл бұрын

Good video, thanks. But I think that limited serieses are ok for "well known" artists. I mean, I do sell my prints, to my friends and their friends. As gifts and so on, and as I am no one, limiting my little sell it's actually bad for me 😅 I know that is not applicable to everybody, but I tried and that's my thought! That said, I (we) don't make enough money just on selling, sadly.

@norlmerk 2 жыл бұрын

Brillant....I know for a fact "they" buy You the artist along with quality emotional presentation. I would Han purchased one sooner but what's available is out of my range. I'm a photographer also and I do believe we need to support and VALUE our effort and skill. I would collect images that please me more often if it were easier to navigate . Photographers giving a hand up. One thing I have learned is that there may be a billion cameras clicking now a days but each one of us is unique and our own style...ther is plenty of room for each of us to shine and find our ow followers!

@paulhanson6008 Жыл бұрын

The disclaimer from the outset is contained in the title “The uncomfortable truth”, notwithstanding; the video is produced. Aside from a hobby, there is no money to be made in selling prints at this price point (which isn’t denied). The only revenue from this exercise is that generated from uploading the video to social media.

@STUDIO388_ Жыл бұрын

FINALY someone with knowledge in blockchin/ Crypto / NFT... Thanks for the input. I m getting back into photography, new gear, new me...and this time i would like to find a way to put it out there other then instagram. But i get what your bringing to the table, it is a market thats saturated. I might go on a more personal local way with my ideas. Like agriculture , maby thats what it will force Photographer to do...

@kurtvanlife 2 жыл бұрын

What a great idea and thanks soo much for the advice I hope you don’t mind me trying this out with my channel

@kurtvanlife 2 жыл бұрын

Also followed you on Twitter

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see more people try this.

@kurtvanlife 2 жыл бұрын

@@Firstmanphotography thanks mate I’m gonna talk about it in my next video and give you credit heading to Scotland so what a place it will be to start it off

@davehandelman2832 2 жыл бұрын

The biggest problem as a photographer that loves their images is wall space... I have ZERO room in my apt for any new photos.... The struggle is real!

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

lol indeed. I have an art box or two that are like glorious and massive photo albums.

@jairovanegas8856 2 жыл бұрын

Try rotating the images every 3 or six months like museums with temporary exhibitions and put them in storage until the next time.

@robertwhitemoto 2 жыл бұрын

@4:40 looked like a beautiful Comp. I am lucky that my photography does not rely on income. It's a passion and a love of mine, but I don't sell. I share. CPA supports the addiction ;-)

@alanabley525 2 жыл бұрын

Just discovered your channel and really enjoying. How can someone guaranty a photo is printed on a limited basis?

@markjutsum6187 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant idea, alas I missed the offer - all sold out ! Any chance of increasing the quants of mid price prints. Joe Cornish does a similar offer under “arts for arts sake” non limited addition prints around £80. Totally agree photographers should support each other. Art for everyone not just the rich. Well done. I hope other photographers see this and help the spread of art.😀😀😀😀 MJ

@anorak211 2 жыл бұрын

You should do what Jean Michel Jarre did in the 1970s. He recorded an album, made 1 vinyl lp of it and sold it, then destroyed his master tapes so only 1 copy existed. Try that with a photo, make 1 print, delete the file and sell the print for £1000.

@Firstmanphotography 2 жыл бұрын

I actually love that idea. if I can somehow incorporate lasers too, it’ll definitely work.

@danielbruhin6171 2 жыл бұрын

But what about the uses of this picture by the photographer for his own books, calendars and others? Could make much more money that the sale of last enlargement.

@christheking1 2 жыл бұрын

@@danielbruhin6171 that’s the conundrum. Besides how can you be sure that an artist isn’t selling that same photo again down the road. It’s not like you can scour the net endlessly to make sure that unique print isn’t being used again. I think that is what NFT is trying to do by legitimately making 1of1 and nothing more. However NFT I believe are and will kill the art in general and photography in particular. I would understand buying a unique piece of art but I just read that a guy made a fortune selling NFTs of his emotionless face. Seriously! What has value nowadays?

@jdg6336 2 жыл бұрын

Wu Tang did that with that album Martin Skrelli bought for $1M

@s1bur 2 жыл бұрын

I have sold 45-50 of my prints in the last 6 months, 99% of the battle is having good marketing strategies to find the clients instead of waiting for them to come to you.

@barrysharoff6537 2 жыл бұрын

Please tell us how you do it so that we can all benefit. What platform do you use, how do you market (promote) it, what's your website, what are your prices, what sizes are most popular, what subjects are most popular, etc.? Thanks.