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How Putin Fooled the Western Left

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Vlad Vexler

Vlad Vexler

Күн бұрын

As Putin's brutal invasion of Ukraine continues, we look at the failures of the Western left to grasp what is going on.
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@harrylion6689
@harrylion6689 Жыл бұрын
As a leftist in America, this has frustrated me to no end. Thank you for talking about this Vlad and have a good one.
@grmpEqweer
@grmpEqweer Жыл бұрын
There was a guy I was flirting back and forth with, but he was always a hard core tankie type. ...Vladimir Putin kept me from getting laid.😡
@harrylion6689
@harrylion6689 Жыл бұрын
@@grmpEqweer Maybe you dodged a bullet, you never know with tankies
@jeffreyhanc1711
@jeffreyhanc1711 Жыл бұрын
Ditto. The "Alt-Left" VV talks about is hardly left (imo) and nothing unintelligent they say at this point is shocking. But Chomsky, West, Wolff? Ugh, their tankie takes have been just horrific.
@cyrneco
@cyrneco Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreyhanc1711 I think that Vlad talking of 'americacentrism' is spot on.
@nathanrohde3292
@nathanrohde3292 Жыл бұрын
American imperialism is generally bad. However America isn't the only imperial power in the world and not everything it does is bad. The way American leftists will swoon for any counter party, be it a major or regional imperial power is... frustrating.
@andrewstehlik3917
@andrewstehlik3917 Жыл бұрын
I am born Czech and thankful for expansion of NATO. We were occupied in 1968 by the Russian imperialists. We and other East European countries are desperate to be protected against Russian brutes. Just look what they are doing to Ukraine! And why do you think Fins and Swedes were so eager to join in?
@TheGamer2001
@TheGamer2001 Жыл бұрын
@@bilic8094 You can't compare your word vomit with an actual intelligent argument.
@kejuu6887
@kejuu6887 6 ай бұрын
@@bilic8094Russia is invading its neighbours, speaking about restoring Russian imperium, allying with countries like Iran and North Korea and threatening to nuke western capitals, but there's nothing to worry about?
@p382742937423y4
@p382742937423y4 6 ай бұрын
I am western european, and i strongly feel that eastern european intellectuals have been ignored by the western europeans while they were right all along.
@derek3396
@derek3396 5 ай бұрын
Current Russia is worse than UdSSR in the sum of its years and Ukraine needs NATO more than Sweden and Finland.
@petebondurant58
@petebondurant58 2 ай бұрын
@@bilic8094 Why can't anyone compare Russia to the Soviet Union? The leader of Russia is a former member of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, who was a KGB officer. He is literally a product of the Soviet Union.
@laurabjork
@laurabjork 11 ай бұрын
I am a leftist in the Baltics. I always love how many of these leftists, saying NATO should not have expanded somehow forget - we chose to join NATO. Maybe we deserve to have a choise? And also how many pacts have Russia signed and broken when it comes to Eastern Europe?
@eric55406
@eric55406 8 ай бұрын
Budapest Memorandum, ahem...
@termitreter6545
@termitreter6545 7 ай бұрын
​@@Too-Odd Thats a hilarious reversion of reality. Putin is habituationally threatening the west with nuclear distraction since 2008, started the biggest recent war in europe, yet somehow the west, who had been going so easy on russia (see ressource trade and high tech exports) supposedly kept the cold war on. Not to mention, "Ukrainian coup". I guess the parliament voting against teh president and the president resignating is a bit too complicated for some fascist sympathizer like you?
@brennnessel6789
@brennnessel6789 6 ай бұрын
​@@Too-Oddrussia broke the Helsinki accords.
@brennnessel6789
@brennnessel6789 6 ай бұрын
​@@Too-OddAnd when it comes to the Budapest Memorandum, it was broken by Russia through its economic war and the unilateral sanctions against Ukraine in 2013. Which led to the Euro Maidan. The signatories, Great Britain and the USA, have kept to the letter of their treaty commitment through their support. Which was completely foreseeable. Incidentally, China has made similar promises to Ukraine, including military aid. But it is known to be just as dishonest as Russia
@brennnessel6789
@brennnessel6789 6 ай бұрын
@@Too-Odd No idea what you mean. It's really blatant how proponents of war lie their way out of all kinds of treaties. If you have the nerve, you can read the judgment of the European Court of Human Rights on the admittedly confusing Internet platform of the European Parliament. The case of the Netherlands and Ukraine against Russia. Which is why Russia was kicked out of the European Parliament and declared a state sponsor of terror. All crimes are listed separately in the judgment.
@kerontherun
@kerontherun 11 ай бұрын
as an ukrainian leftist, it makes me... well, mostly facepalm at this point. it's good that there're people out there who can see putin's regime for what it is
@thfkmnIII
@thfkmnIII 11 ай бұрын
Left in Ukraine is definitely not the same as left in the US (and the rest of western Europe that can't seem to get off America's despite talking shit all the time)
@nicolaslatorre810
@nicolaslatorre810 11 ай бұрын
Zelenksky and his fascist regime puppets of the imperialist west aren't a solution
@BennyGeserit
@BennyGeserit 11 ай бұрын
I completely agree and if such a regime were to attack our Canada I would hope and pray we would react with at least half of the bravery, courage and love of place Ukraine has shown.
@GrindEU
@GrindEU 11 ай бұрын
as an Ukrainian leftist, you're either dead or somewhere else, but definitely not in ukraine
@michaelsalmon9832
@michaelsalmon9832 11 ай бұрын
Good luck to your country on its new status as ground zero for the restart of European neoliberalism, im sure your new series of right wing corrupt nationalist governments will be infinitely better than the other corrupt nationalist government out east
@DeviousDumplin
@DeviousDumplin Жыл бұрын
Here's your daily reminder that Noam Chomsky denied the Cambodian genocide and carried out a letter writing campaign to convince newspapers to ignore reports about the genocide. He also denied the Srebrenica massacre and called the death camps 'humanitarian camps.' Chomsky is awful, and the fact that neither of these outrages affected his reputation on the Left is truly damning.
@jacqdanieles
@jacqdanieles Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@Jonas_M_M
@Jonas_M_M Жыл бұрын
This makes me sick. One thing is to have no clue about the facts, another is to fabricate ones to suit your agenda, and denying the victims justice in the process!
@MaggieKeizai
@MaggieKeizai Жыл бұрын
His many demonstrated false citations are another damning thing about him. He deserves to be pilloried. His Cambodian genocide denial knocked him out of the realm of respectability for about 15 years, but in the 90s it was all forgotten about and people started listening to him again. Chomsky is a total villain.
@SamDeeksRelovedGuitars
@SamDeeksRelovedGuitars Жыл бұрын
@@MaggieKeizai I think in the same way John Pilger has turned out to be...
@SeruraRenge11
@SeruraRenge11 Жыл бұрын
Chomsky has always been one one mindset, one that you'll find in lots of western socialists and is easy to boil down: America = bad, and therefore anyone that opposes America = good
@ArtfulDodger566
@ArtfulDodger566 Жыл бұрын
Its simple. They are principally anti american not anti imperialist. Thier approach to geopolitics is the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
@SurzhenkoAndrii
@SurzhenkoAndrii Жыл бұрын
Sometimes better to become an ally with your enemy, rather than with the enemy of your enemy.
@legion999
@legion999 Жыл бұрын
Yup, which makes them liars and worse.
@Seraphus87
@Seraphus87 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes the enemy of my enemy can still go have fun with himself.
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
This! They just wanted the US to be sufficiently undermined so that they could take over. And when this was done toward Soviet imperialism, they were supporting an ideological ally. So win win for them back then. How the modern left rhetorically justifies their support for an almost fascist modern Russia, I still don't understand. That part is just weird all around.
@youtubewatcher2
@youtubewatcher2 Жыл бұрын
The German variant with Sahra Wagenknecht and Alice Schwarzer makes this abundantly clear. Sahra has become a hero among some far right AfD types.
@aisteniko4982
@aisteniko4982 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for your analysis. Im Lithuanian. We understand what it is russian occupation.
@iainbaker6916
@iainbaker6916 6 ай бұрын
One of the problems with American intellectuals is that they seem to think everything other nations do is in some way a response to something the US has done. They appear to forget that other nations are quite capable of doing things entirely on their own.
@jamesline5103
@jamesline5103 6 ай бұрын
You have hit the nail on the head. Despite often claiming to be open minded internationalists, a lot of these people are very parochial and naval gazing in their outlook.
@LimboJimbo
@LimboJimbo Ай бұрын
This is something the American left and right have in common: It's inconceivable to them that the USA are not the main reason or reason at all for something good (political right) or bad (political left) happening in the world.
@chrisstrawn4108
@chrisstrawn4108 23 күн бұрын
That's not exactly the problem. The issue is they feel ONLY the US practices imperialism. So other countries either get a pass for their actions via an excuse ("Russian security concerns") or are not viewed as being imperialist (i.e., China) which itself excuses their actions.
@Nathan-jh1ho
@Nathan-jh1ho 8 күн бұрын
The Anti-American crowd in America are more American centric than American exceptionalists
@john82490
@john82490 Жыл бұрын
When Russia is saying NATO threatens them, they are not talking about the Russian Federation, they are talking about the Russian Empire.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler Жыл бұрын
That's a good distinction - although I think this sentence become obviously true when we say "existential threat". NATO is only an existential threat to Russia conceived as an empire.
@JadeoftheGlade
@JadeoftheGlade Жыл бұрын
Exactly. For many in Russia, there is a clear and unbroken continuity between the Russian Empire the Soviet Union and the Russian federation. They're all just Russia in the minds of these people. Sometimes it has more territory sometimes it has less. But any territory ever had is rightfully Russian.
@KitagumaIgen
@KitagumaIgen Жыл бұрын
@@VladVexler , there's an even cleaner, closer shave to make: a group of well-working dynamic democracies with poplular power-transitions in the former Soviet space is a threat to the current Russian monarchy. Russia doesn't even need to have imperial ambitions to have its monarchy threatened by democracies. Great video!
@a5cent
@a5cent Жыл бұрын
I agree with this, but I think it should be phrased better. NATO threatens nothing except Russian imperialist and expansionist AMBITIONS. Russia can be as imperialistic as it wants, just not at the expense of its neighbors, who (as sovereign nations) have the right to choose their own path and what international agreements they sign.
@sillysad3198
@sillysad3198 Жыл бұрын
it does not matter what russians are saying. NATO never threatened russia, because it was created to CONSERVE russia! NATO's primary goal is to RESTRAIN genuine antirussian developments in the west (military-wise)
@TheFireGiver
@TheFireGiver Жыл бұрын
I am left of center and I have really appreciated the clarity the war has given to politics. It shows who is serious on the left and who is a clown. If you are so worried about the west that you condone imperialism as long as it isnt western imperialism then you arent a serious person and can be safely ignored. If you take Russias imperialism seriously then i can take you seriously even if we may disagree on specific politics.
@dro355
@dro355 Жыл бұрын
This! The hypocrisy of Africans and Asians in particular when criticising American colonialism is just nuts. If you’re anti-colonial / imperial then you MUST logically be agains the war. Not to mention that in 2002 in Rome Putin specifically supported Ukrainians security decision autonomy
@DogeickBateman
@DogeickBateman Жыл бұрын
@@dro355 Never ask a CCP shill what the Chinese were doing in Tibet, Xinjiang, Manchuria or Vietnam. Surely couldn't have been.... imperialism 😆
@nurmihusa7780
@nurmihusa7780 Жыл бұрын
Yep.
@NoHairMan
@NoHairMan Жыл бұрын
100% agree. Well said.
@grmpEqweer
@grmpEqweer Жыл бұрын
​@@dro355 ...In '02, I'm guessing he felt the need to appear harmless. You know, to avoid buildup of defenses against the imperialist war he was dreaming of, one day. Just a guess.
@Upsideround
@Upsideround 9 ай бұрын
This seems like blaming the victim. " you are the victim of abuse because you looked at your attacker with a skeptical eye" Vlad you articulate things in a way I wish I could.
@luckytiger5551
@luckytiger5551 5 ай бұрын
There is no NATO expansion to the East. There is only former Soviet member states escape to the West. People vote with their feet.
@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13
@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. Chomsky and others refuse to ask, “Why do Ukranians and others want to join NATO? The EU?” They know the answer already and it’s inconvenient for them.
@IndelibleNihilist
@IndelibleNihilist Жыл бұрын
Not sure why Russia invaded Ukraine is such a difficult fact for some people to understand. Thank you Vlad, brilliant as always ❤
@filiperosa7496
@filiperosa7496 Жыл бұрын
Is easy, but is not simple to just support NATO, I'm not Russian, but if NATO get stronger with Ukraine is just worse for basically half of the world freedom
@andreasschmidt5857
@andreasschmidt5857 Жыл бұрын
@@filiperosa7496 Why would it be worse for 'half of the world freedom' if a defensive military alliance gets bigger by new members joining it to have security guarantees against aggressors? This makes no sense.
@dallysinghson5569
@dallysinghson5569 Жыл бұрын
NATO removing freedoms, eh??? The most free countries in the world are in NATO. There is nothing inherent in NATO to set up authoritarianism...
@davidarchibald50
@davidarchibald50 Жыл бұрын
Vlad i suspect from this post is a ruzzian troll.
@filiperosa7496
@filiperosa7496 Жыл бұрын
@@andreasschmidt5857 they don't let anyone join and use their military to gain economic advantages of the third world, some countries in Africa are forced by pure miliary presence to sell resources to EU, they don't have freedom
@ForelliBoy
@ForelliBoy Жыл бұрын
"The US 'empire' is good AND bad. And we need it to be good in Ukraine" - The bluntest and most profound use of nuance in the whole discussion. Thank you.
@renstein8210
@renstein8210 Жыл бұрын
The US is currently involved in combat operations in Ukraine AND pretty much the entirety of the Ukrainian government is on US/Western financial support.
@StelzCat
@StelzCat Жыл бұрын
The US empire has gone bad like a spoiled steak. It need a fresh blood and will stop at nothing to get it.
@0816M3RC
@0816M3RC Жыл бұрын
​@@renstein8210 No we are not actually involved in combat operations in Ukraine.
@renstein8210
@renstein8210 Жыл бұрын
@@0816M3RC Yes, yes you are. The United States provides a lot of intelligence for Ukrainian operations. Satellite imagery, Global Hawk surveillance of the Black Sea, AWACS coverage of the air space over all of the territory of Ukraine. These are combat operations.
@samg.5165
@samg.5165 Жыл бұрын
@@renstein8210 In what alternate universe is this combat? Does that mean radio operators and intelligence analysts have combat experience? Does that mean the Western and Eastern blocs were actually in a hot war until 1991? If you were talking about the handful of Western special forces in Ukraine (who were probably not directly involved in combat operations) you might have had a leg to stand on, but this is just nonsense.
@insertgoodchannelnamehere
@insertgoodchannelnamehere 11 ай бұрын
Putin: "I am a far right religious autocrat attempting imperialist expansions of my empire." Tankies: "omggg hes literally Lenin 2!!!!!"
@TarasZakharchenko
@TarasZakharchenko 11 ай бұрын
Lenin at least had ideology. Modern Russia has too few things to offer. All they are offering to the public is "we are great, we won great patriotic war, obey us", a big dose of whataboutism, and ruined mental health of the nation.
@thejason755
@thejason755 11 ай бұрын
Got it in one
@Qvadratus.
@Qvadratus. 11 ай бұрын
far right? how far? lmao even if he was Lenin himself they would still support their bankster owners and their capitalist imperialist endeavors.
@curses6166
@curses6166 11 ай бұрын
"Empire" would be cool if he wasn't just worried about NATO. He also simps for Israel.
@DingDingTheYoutubeBuddy
@DingDingTheYoutubeBuddy 10 ай бұрын
Cut out the "far right religous" part and that about sums up Lenin tbh
@evanb4189
@evanb4189 6 ай бұрын
Russia explicitly promised not to invade Ukraine if they surrendered nukes (Budapest Memo). So anyone who criticized NATO expansion should be harder on Russia.
@ivanbastos4963
@ivanbastos4963 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, because they were supposed to remain neutral. And wanted to remain neutral, or at least the people did, before the maidan coup in 2014. Only after a US backed coup put in place a right-wing pro-US government did Ukraine restart talks of joining NATO. And if you don't think there was a coup you're simply uninformed and buying into western propaganda. In 1962 when they found Soviet Nukes near their coast, in cuba, the US and USSR almost went to war. Rightfully because of security concerns from the US. Ironically they had been doing the same to the Soviet Union in Turkey. So you're telling me it's legitimate for Cuba to be a security concern to the US and Ukraine isn't a legitimate security concern to Russia? Talk about double standarts
@jimkluska253
@jimkluska253 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely correct!!! Yet to these commies who enjoy capitalism ( they are all very rich) want the middle class to disappear. They should move to Russia post haste
@krisvq
@krisvq Жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting this together Vlad. I am quite frustrated with Chomsky and the like. Eastern European countries do not 'belong' to Russia, let alone Putin. We want NATO guaranteed safety and Putin can showe his arbitraty wishes up where those belong. I've been confused by these people's idea that Putin has to be given something. Given what? My country isn't a cookie that is to be given to anybody. What a ludicrous misreading of the circumstances.
@DarkestAlice
@DarkestAlice Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I wish I could give you a 1000 likes instead of 1. 🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦
@geoffreyschofield8539
@geoffreyschofield8539 Жыл бұрын
Amen, Slava Ukraine!
@nielskorpel8860
@nielskorpel8860 Жыл бұрын
Countries aren't poker chips.
@artmcteagle
@artmcteagle Жыл бұрын
These leftists somehow believe that the Baltic States, Eastern Europe (including Ukraine) have no agency of their own, no sovereignty, that they are merely US pawns. How wrong they are!
@yl9154
@yl9154 Жыл бұрын
"I've been confused by these people's idea that Putin has to be given something. Given what? My country isn't a cookie that is to be given to anybody." - This is one of the best comments I have read on this issue. And, in a sense, "Chomsky and the like" have a very imperialistic stance, as if it was, like you wrote, up to the US to "give" countries to Russia. That is fundamentally imperialistic. So these guys, always decrying US "imperialism", are in effect proposing that the US, not the Ukrainians, decides the faith of Ukraine. That is imperialism. Interesting...
@dougmorrow746
@dougmorrow746 Жыл бұрын
It's like a rapist demanding the right to keep raping his neighbors, and that any attempt to stop him was an infringement on his rights of free expression.
@vikkipollock5402
@vikkipollock5402 Жыл бұрын
That’s how I see it too. Infuriating
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 Жыл бұрын
Imagine that supporters of that rapist in your country started criticizing the “anti-rape west” and questioning whether rape wasn’t deserved in some cases. And when you cancelled their speaking engagement to your group or organization, they complained they were being cancelled, de-platformed, and silenced.
@tbk2010
@tbk2010 Жыл бұрын
And that's coming from people who like to (sometimes rightly) complain about victim-blaming.
@mihailsobolev1969
@mihailsobolev1969 11 ай бұрын
"russian interests" - goddammit how ridiculous it sounds! Interests of a criminal, interests of a rapist, interests of a terrorist, interests of a slave master, etc. Criminals interests DO NOT COUNT.
@zhaunju
@zhaunju 5 ай бұрын
But they do and the West do nothing serious to stop them.
@ivanbastos4963
@ivanbastos4963 2 ай бұрын
So you're telling me you actually believe a hole country of tens of millions of people are all criminals, rapists, terrorists and slave owners... And I'm sure you've never actually talked or even been near anyone from russia... but you systematically de-humanize a whole ethnicity with the information you get, which I'm sure comes from the mainstream western media... And also claim THEY are the ones who are indoctrinated and brainwashed by propaganda.... Riiiiiiiight
@hardywatkins7737
@hardywatkins7737 11 ай бұрын
I think by insisting that NATO not accept applications from those countries that lie inbetween Russia and Western Europe he is ignoring the right of those countries to choose for themselves who they wish to ally with and what defence pact they wish to belong to .. in essence to insist that they remain defenceless and vulnerable to his own ambitions. - i.e that he doesn't want NATO defending them because he wants them for himself.
@benghiskahn3673
@benghiskahn3673 5 ай бұрын
EXACTLY. Russia starts from a a position that its neighbours in the near west are NOT sovereign. They are just Russian satellites that have had their strings cut. The fact that these non-sovreign satellites have joined a non-aggression defense pact in NATO is akin to a lawnmower or a flower bed deciding move to a different yard. How can your property decide to no longer be your property anymore? Its nonsensical but its the way the Kremlin thinks.
@TByrom
@TByrom Жыл бұрын
Hey Vlad, THANK YOU FOR THIS!!! I’m a politically active US secular progressive and find myself fighting against both sides of the aisle. Your introductory analysis and commentary on the maddening reality of my and out erstwhile progressive allies and activists is both informative and genuinely comforting to me. Thanks, dear kind Vlad.
@pertedin4924
@pertedin4924 Жыл бұрын
Since I live in a (formerly) neutral country, I get upset every time someone suggests that NATO expansion is a devious American plot to surround/contain/threat Russia. The Swedish position (and it is sound) has always been that all nations - not least the small and neutral ones - have an absolute right to choose their own national security policy, i.e. to join NATO or not. NATO has never forced anyone to join - but someone may have felt compelled to join because of the Kremlin's actions. Chomsky's arguments are not only one-eyed US-centric, they also imply that no country has the ability and/or knowledge to determine its own security policy, which borders on intellectual dishonesty.
@SamAronow
@SamAronow Жыл бұрын
Chomsky's position is that countries are _only_ self-interested if and when they are _opposed_ to the West.
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 Жыл бұрын
They don't believe you. They don't think you even have your own opinion.
@TheArrowedKnee
@TheArrowedKnee Жыл бұрын
As a leftist myself, that's the one thing that bothers me most about about these kind of leftists' arguments. Everything is so US centric, to the degree that they are incapable of thinking that things might be unrelated to the US. And the Russo-Ukrainian war for the most part doesen't really have anything to do with the US. And addition to that, because US imperialism is apparently the root of all evil in the world, we should support Russian or even Chinese imperialism instead. No, imperialism is bad no matter what.
@colbunkmust
@colbunkmust Жыл бұрын
"Chomsky's arguments are not only one-eyed US-centric, they also imply that no country has the ability and/or knowledge to determine its own security policy, which borders on intellectual dishonesty." He's working off of Cold War era political "Realism" which divides the world into a polarized spheres of influence by the leading super-powers. It's a perspective grossly out of touch with reality and completely ignores the idea of national sovereignty.
@bilic8094
@bilic8094 Жыл бұрын
Well maybe Russia wouldn't of thought like that if Nato stuck to it's Motto of defensive alliance but as we seen on many occasions Nato was an offensive alliance.
@TypausZuendorf
@TypausZuendorf 11 ай бұрын
None of these people are misguided. They all know what Putin is doing but being Anti-America is more important than defining the innocent or upholding international law. That is the One thing Putin managed to do perfectly, to imply that America is in any way or form responsible for his actions.
@sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517
@sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517 11 ай бұрын
"upholding international law" Which the US is the biggest violator hahaha... the koolaid on this channel is strong.
@mazamatov
@mazamatov 11 ай бұрын
You don't have to be anti American or even anti Putin to see that the over-arching conflict is Russia defending herself like she has in centuries past.
@michaelsalmon9832
@michaelsalmon9832 11 ай бұрын
1990s catastrophe, millions dead in former eastern bloc: supported by US policy and American NGOs 1996 fraudulent Russian election : American policy makers and private oligarchs openly brag about rigging Russian elections to ensure catastrophic Yeltsin stays in power 2000: yeltsins protege, Putin, wins election, his ascension is openly celebrated by the west 2000s: Putin begins to push back against Russian oligarchs like khodorkhovsky, who profited off of the misery of the 90s : west starts to turn against him Color revolutions, supported by US state department funded NGO the National Endowment for Democracy, puts western-aligned, corrupt neoliberals in power in former soviet republics like Ukraine, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan and others 2014: Ukrainian nationalists overthrow president and install pro western government, with open backing by the US and American state NGOs like the NED 2014: Russians in eastern ukraine revolt, fearing reprisals, are equipped by Russia, war in donbass begins with tens of thousands Ukrainians dead, nationalist Ukrainians want to prolong and extend war until total victory, Minsk protocols signed instead by west and Russia 2019 : zelensky elected on a platform of neutrality and reconciliation between Russian east and nationalist west. Immediately received pushback from nationalists, quickly acquiesces to them, desire for ukraine to join nato is written into ukraines constitution, it is unable to be ignored or rejected by an elected official 2021: joe Biden is elected, accelerates efforts to support Ukraine and Russians fear that Ukrainian entry into nato is inevitable 2022: Russian invasion Now tell me that america has nothing to do with it
@CallmeTrimtab
@CallmeTrimtab 11 ай бұрын
@@sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517 Most sane invasion supporter.
@peterbailey-jq7pe
@peterbailey-jq7pe 11 ай бұрын
International law 1.01 is what ever the UNSC agrees it is , Biden and Putin held 3 summits , they both resolved to go to war ,if they didn't get what wanted ,no matter what the cost , or profit as the US oil and gas sector can attest , the US Russian trade in nuclear fuel continues unabated ,not as much as it was in the run up to the war though , wake up and smell the daisies
@joaodecarvalho7012
@joaodecarvalho7012 11 ай бұрын
Lex Fridman asked Chomsky about what's going on in Putin's head, and Chomsky said he doesn't have much interest in it.
@r.h.f.6073
@r.h.f.6073 Жыл бұрын
as an actual anti-imperialist western leftist: thank you for saying it. witnessing some of the people i have respected for a decade give these atrocious takes on Ukraine has been so disheartening.
@BlyatimirPootin
@BlyatimirPootin Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@Ukraineaissance2014
@Ukraineaissance2014 Жыл бұрын
Chomsky has been doing it for years. Look up his milosevic antics. I basically ignore the whole anti war (when its the west) left. Same reason i never liked Corbyn, hes balls deep on this stuff.
@milo-qh7cv
@milo-qh7cv Жыл бұрын
well you might wake up and realize leftists are most of the time as bad as death plague.
@antonbeloborodov5130
@antonbeloborodov5130 Жыл бұрын
They are agents of KGB and now Russia. This is great time to see them coming out from closet. Moscow giving them such orders to tell the naked propaganda.
@robertduluth8994
@robertduluth8994 Жыл бұрын
@@Ukraineaissance2014you are pro war? Because one guy is annoying? 😂 your standards are laughable
@seanmcdonald4686
@seanmcdonald4686 Жыл бұрын
Jeffery Sachs: “We created what we’re facing today.” American exceptionalism to the point where Mr. Sachs forgets that Putin and Russia attacked Ukraine, not the US.
@tonytravels2494
@tonytravels2494 Жыл бұрын
That twisted intellect will find a way to blame it on the USA - mark my words.
@NestNext
@NestNext Жыл бұрын
lol you missed the point my friend
@seanmcdonald4686
@seanmcdonald4686 Жыл бұрын
@@NestNext No friend, you missed the point. It’s the usage of the royal “we” repeatedly when referring to war that is telling. Individuals don’t go to war with each other. Nations do. Unless I missed something huge, Sachs is an American, and America is not at war with Russia. Watch some more interviews with him, he does it repeatedly, it wasn’t a one-off utterance. That he so fluidly and thoughtlessly says “we” instead of “they” indicates a lot about his world view. Thanks for wasting 4 minutes of my day, buddy.
@NestNext
@NestNext Жыл бұрын
@@seanmcdonald4686 it took you 4 minutes to say the same nonsense you said in one sentance earlier. When he says we he is reffering to the NATO militarisation that pushed Russia in a corner and forced it to react, an issue that was raised by numerous politicians scholars and bureocrats even before ru invaded ukr, for gods sake even joe biden warned about NATO expansion not to mention Wiliam Burns.
@seanmcdonald4686
@seanmcdonald4686 Жыл бұрын
These American leftists, especially Sachs, obviously consider the war to be between the US and Russia, with Ukraine as a junior partner on the American side. They feel that the decision to cut off the flow of weapons into Ukraine is really a lever that the Americans should pull to induce “peace talks.” They want to hamstring the Ukrainian military to the point where recovering any of occupied Ukraine would become impossible. They don’t feel that Ukraine has the right to manifest the future that they see for themselves. They don’t see Ukraine fighting for Ukraine with weapons purchased by Ukraine. They see America creating Ukrainian debt. To be fair to these brilliant dinosaurs, US foreign policy should always be scrutinized closely, but that does not mean that the US can’t be a valuable ally. Americans have a tendency to view other countries as secondary in ANY situation, and the language they use indicates to me that these Americans are no different. They just can’t imagine that the outcome of the Russo-Ukrainian War could be determined primarily by Ukraine, not the US.
@williamblackwell2978
@williamblackwell2978 11 ай бұрын
Haven’t any of these ‘intellectual’ folks ever read a Russian history book? Have they not heard Putler say that the worst thing in history was the breakup of the USSR ? That he wants to recreate the Russian Empire? Have they not heard of Sudetenland? The only way peace will come is if the Ruskis vacate the Ukrainian land they stole. Temporarily 😂. Slava Ukraini. Just stumbled on your show last week and I am finding very educational. Thanks and mind your health!
@remcovanek2
@remcovanek2 2 ай бұрын
Fact 1: Putin has boosted NATO expansion. Fact2: Putin has boosted NATO. Genius!
@djparn007
@djparn007 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Vlad, for a clear-eyed reminder of what Putin really is.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler Жыл бұрын
Thank YOU.
@0Cico0
@0Cico0 Жыл бұрын
Some people would have no problem if Central and Eastern Europe became Moscow's vassals again. It's shocking how easy it is for someone to trade human lives, especially when the ocean is protecting you.
@nicohendriks3278
@nicohendriks3278 Жыл бұрын
It is sadly not only limited to American leftwingers.
@theholodomorisnttaughtinam2796
@theholodomorisnttaughtinam2796 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention these are people that (supposedly) supported “Decolonization” or “opposed” Apartheid in South Africa… So much for the right to self determination, right?
@ericp1139
@ericp1139 Жыл бұрын
Not Americas problem. Spend that money in Hawaii and stop NATO world domination.
@ericp1139
@ericp1139 Жыл бұрын
@@theholodomorisnttaughtinam2796the US should get out of Africa too.
@sambones1092
@sambones1092 Жыл бұрын
​@@ericp1139Kremlin bot
@paanikki
@paanikki 11 ай бұрын
After Finland made the decision to join NATO, Russia continued moving all available troops and equipment from the 5 military bases near the Finnish border to Ukraine. Russia has also moved the 2 airborne brigades from Kaliningrad. These actions should be enough for anyone to understand Russia does not REALLY consider NATO to pose a threat to Russian national security. The left wing ideological tradition of seeing western imperialism as the core problem is very familiar to me. For Hundreds of years, western imperialism has done a lot of harm in the world. Putin's propaganda is skillfully using this to their advantage, portraying Russia as a victim of western imperialism. As a Finnish leftist, I am against ALL imperialism. There are no moral grounds whatsoever to support Russian imperialism while you are against western imperialism.
@user-ez4qv3rp4g
@user-ez4qv3rp4g 2 ай бұрын
A very good point.
@allergy5634
@allergy5634 5 ай бұрын
As a Brit and a staunch leftist, these people remind me very much of a prime minister my country had during the rise of another expansionist dictator…
@thereallocke8065
@thereallocke8065 Жыл бұрын
I hate how they dont give the same consideration to Ukraine for their national security or political destiny. In the end it's just saying that might makes right as long as the might isnt American
@nutyyyy
@nutyyyy Жыл бұрын
Which is extra hilarious given how much more powerful the US and NATO is than Russia.
@derunfassbarebielecki
@derunfassbarebielecki Жыл бұрын
These are Soviet alligned leftists. They are just a mindless horde, which only serves the Kremlin and their current leader. They might have been once ideologically left, but over the years this faded away into the same Soviet dependencies, which plagued the eastern bloc until it collapsed. Thinking for themselves is considered treason, questioning the Kremlin is a treason, so they remain quiet, even if they know deep inside, that the Kremlin is the biggest spreader of fascist propaganda. I had once a chat with such wannabe leftist, I told them that the Nr1 source for right wing propaganda is Russian state TV and they still were convinced, that Putin has no control over it and America is the issue for Russia spreading right wing propaganda.
@renstein8210
@renstein8210 Жыл бұрын
Ditto for the people of Crimea.
@0816M3RC
@0816M3RC Жыл бұрын
​@@renstein8210 You mean the invaders squatting on stolen land?
@renstein8210
@renstein8210 Жыл бұрын
@@0816M3RC The Ukrainians? Squatting on land (Crimea) that they have no right to? I agree.
@itsjustthemo
@itsjustthemo Жыл бұрын
Speaking as a Pole, if ANY person in politics on either left or right did not express or feel disgust in regards to what's going on eastwards, their political career would be gone in a day or less. It saddens me to hear how some on the American left see this war. The stereotype of historically illiterate US lives on
@petercameron2137
@petercameron2137 Жыл бұрын
I'd say most Americans are globally illertate, being so far from everyone else. History is not nessicarily a shared experience.
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 Жыл бұрын
Not just the American left. In the UK the mainstream left was led by a guy who literally regurgitated RT's script on Ukraine
@lochnessspeedwerkz6557
@lochnessspeedwerkz6557 Жыл бұрын
Wait till you get a load of the American right! I welcome the leftists that have cavalier attitudes on the war. It lets me know who the disingenuous money grubbing moles are and not to trust anything they say. A good example is Tulsi gabbard, I knew she was a mole years ago due to the talking points she constantly pushed. They were far to alike with lines coming from the kremlin.
@lobokop69
@lobokop69 Жыл бұрын
we have some morons, thou. I bet Korwin-Mikke still has his mouth full of praises for Putin.
@tbk2010
@tbk2010 Жыл бұрын
Amazing how most apologists for russian imperialistic tendencies never had to suffer under russian imperialism.
@caroline4323
@caroline4323 11 ай бұрын
I´ve just listened to this over and over... A few days ago I bumped into some Mearsheimer+ others debate and I was shocked how many people in the discussion below were praising him. It got me really upset, angry. Chomsky, Mearsheimer- all blinded but their anti US politics stance miss out on the reality of the people and countries living in the vicinity of Russia, the unpredictable bad neighbour of ours. You managed to go through this topic so well. One by one, all the facets. Thank you.
@Too-Odd
@Too-Odd 11 ай бұрын
Since the end of WWII or even the end of the Cold War, the United States and its NATO allies have invaded far more countries than Russia.
@thinktwice-me7ie
@thinktwice-me7ie 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Vlad, for your outstanding work and this wonderful content. I can´t tell you how frustrated I am by our socialdemocratic chancellor Scholz procrastinating every bit of help for Ucraine pretending it´s all about peace and the worlds safety. I can´t tell you how lonely I feel among my leftist German friends buying completely into Putins narrative and Russian propaganda concerning Ucraine. Will we ever return to facts or are we left with angry beliefs and stop giving a damn about facts forever?
@YOVOZOL
@YOVOZOL Жыл бұрын
Well done! The most ironic thing I see about some "anti-colonial" American intellectuals blaming the USA for the current war in Ukraine is that it never occurs to them that Eastern Europeans (including Ukrainians) might have minds of their own, and a long history with Russian aggression that gives them reasons to get as far away from Russia's sphere of influence as possible. It's soooo USA-centric it frustrates me so much. God I hope the alt-left doesn't start collaborating with the alt-right on US foreign policy on this matter 🤦‍♂️
@Turtle1631991
@Turtle1631991 Жыл бұрын
Coming from central europe and what used to be soviet occupied Czechoslovakia I habe no words to express gow angry that makes me. Vlad has good video about how even anti-Putin russians suffer from.this imperialist worldview and I think much of the same is true for these people. Fact of the matter is that all of the new NATO members were falling over each otger to get in EXACTLT because of russia
@Michael-uw1rc
@Michael-uw1rc Жыл бұрын
Yep, agree. Of course, the current situation in former Eastern Bloc countries is complicated in many ways but the analysis Vlad has criticised in this video is miles off the mark. These commentators have no idea about what is going on. Odd that Hungary is part of Nato but Orban is good mates with Putin for example, yet Poland is dead against Putin but otherwise aligns with Hingary against much of EU. Reality is always much more complicated than is portrayed in many media outlets.
@RainerMichelle
@RainerMichelle Жыл бұрын
@@Michael-uw1rc reality is not that complicated, Orban is a corrupt politician, he does not give a shit about Putin or the EU, he is milking both for his own personal ! gains, he will be removed hopefully if the Hungarian people are getting their act together eventually
@Ukraineaissance2014
@Ukraineaissance2014 Жыл бұрын
Everything east of Germany is russia to them
@-xirx-
@-xirx- Жыл бұрын
R.I.P Dawn Sturgess. Please google her.
@lucasvignolireis8181
@lucasvignolireis8181 Жыл бұрын
much appreciated, being from the left myself i'm beyond horrorized about this, thanks
@VladVexler
@VladVexler Жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Much of the left gets it completely of course.
@viktorkorol477
@viktorkorol477 Жыл бұрын
All tragedies of twenties century happened because of total misunderstanding of actual Jungian nature of Russia
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
Hey, it happens. A ton of movements are completely coopeted by posers who want to surf that movement to the top. As cooptations go, this is was not even that successful. Not that sizeable of a chunk of the left fell for this. I think that this is entirely solvable. We exclude the people who have proven themselves to be covert pro-imperialists and we move forward. At least now we know who is who.
@AndreasDelleske
@AndreasDelleske Жыл бұрын
@@VladVexlerI would say I get it but my reasons are several at once, it's complicated. One could say, enough is enough. The underwear poisoner carries a loong tradtion of insanity and psychopathy. He governs by Stockholm syndrome and for some reason he still believes he can get away with it.
@lucasvignolireis8181
@lucasvignolireis8181 Жыл бұрын
@@VladVexler i get that most of this is some kind of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" mentality, doesn't matter the nature of him. And it seems people aren't able to understand that while we sure should not accept the current state of affairs, it could be much worse. I'm brazilian, and people here are too far off the european reality, so the left here often has a simplistic "all that makes the world more multipolar" must be good defense of appeasing russia. One problem is the language and geographical barrier, if people here were exposed to content in portuguese from people that are affected by the war, or excellent content like you it would be way easier for them to understand.
@larzkruber822
@larzkruber822 11 ай бұрын
I still try to find this mysterious document that says: "Not an inch to the east..." Who signed it? Where are the documents? The bots like to say it, but never give any details
@HOI4notsoproplayer
@HOI4notsoproplayer 5 ай бұрын
But...but they exist but i just cant link things because youtube 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
@jaykiller4510
@jaykiller4510 2 ай бұрын
I remeber there was an agrwement and there was some sort of paper work to my knowledge.
@kingofthend
@kingofthend 11 ай бұрын
The thing that annoys me most about people like chomsky is how they always talk down from their high moral horse while denying literal genocides.
@t-lexx8838
@t-lexx8838 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Have become increasingly frustrated with the idea out there that ‘Because America bad, Russia good’. Geopolitics is not a Disney movie with one clear villain for all situations. You have explained that with much more patience and intelligence than I possess.
@michaelh878
@michaelh878 Жыл бұрын
Thinking that Russia beating America in this proxy war will be a good thing doesn't mean you think Russia is good.
@tomthetinker1024
@tomthetinker1024 Жыл бұрын
America is very bad and evil. Most of the stuff we have done - Ike Indonesia - 99.9% of Americans don’t even know happened. We have a very good CIA, they are very good at their job.
@Qba86
@Qba86 Жыл бұрын
As a Polish leftist I can confirm. It's extermely rare to find anyone supporting or making excuses for Kremlin on the left in Poland. It doesn't matter if the left in question is social-democratic, democratic socialist or anarcho-syndicalistic etc. Alt-right is basically the only political group with significant pro-Kremlin leaning. This may be in part for historical reasons. In Poland, like in many other places in Eastern Europe, leftist movements were, at their very inception, aimed at fighting Russian authoritarianism and imperialism, while the nationalistic right was perfectly content with licking tzars' boots.
@Qba86
@Qba86 Жыл бұрын
@@TheKeendark Yes it does. We have a left-wing coalition in the parliment (made up mailnly of social democrats, with some democratic socialists and soclibs mixed in). While it doesn't get nearly as many votes as I'd like, this is mainly due to the fact, that the political scene is dominated by two right-wing parties (nationalistic right, and liberal center-right). In the meantime, number of people identifying as left-wing in Poland is steadily growing, especially among the younger generation. Many of them simply vote for liberal center-right as the "lesser evil". As is often the case, our political class is generally more right-leaning and conservative than the society itself. However, if you look at grassroots activism, the left is surprisingly strong in Poland.
@dubokailegala
@dubokailegala Жыл бұрын
Polish left = anywhere else right
@Qba86
@Qba86 Жыл бұрын
@@dubokailegala Libs in Poland often get labeled as "left", while mainstream, moderate left gets labeled as "commies". Thats true, and it's annoying as hell. But as I said before, we *do* have actual left, which would be considered mainstream left in the West, but in Poland it is considered "extreme" for some reason.
@anotherdimension8140
@anotherdimension8140 Жыл бұрын
None of these tankies ever want to speak with people who've had first hand experience of ruzzian authoritarianism. (I speak as a British centre-leftist here.)
@angis888
@angis888 Жыл бұрын
its interesting. thats a tendency with alt-right in many places. they believe Russia is like some "conservative Christian bastion"...where is in reality, I myself from Lithuania, I would NEVER even think to describe Russia as "Christian conservative bastion" 😅 almost opposite of that.
@guillermodelapuerta5243
@guillermodelapuerta5243 9 ай бұрын
1.00. "We said not an inch to the East. That was a NATO guarantee in 1990. " That was NOT a NATO guarantee, that was a comment that James Baker made to Gorbachev that no foreign troops would be deployed in East Germany not about the enlargement of NATO. At the time, the Warsaw Pact still existed and the NATO enlargement was literally impossible. Gorbachev never met with NATO and NATO never made that promise. By the way, a guarantee in International Law is only a Treaty signed by a president. As for NATO it must be signed by all members.And that never happened. The whole story about the NATO enlargement is an urban legend.
@mathiasbartl903
@mathiasbartl903 4 ай бұрын
Oh no there is an actual treaty, that there is no NATO presence in East Germany. But that only applies to East Germany.
@laralsofia
@laralsofia 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!!! I figured it out myself but you added elements new too me, you put in a contest, the narrative flows effortlessly like a symphony of words; it isso clear and well explained. If you have written a book I must buy it!!
@ScrapKing73
@ScrapKing73 Жыл бұрын
I’m very left-wing, and have even run for the Green Party. But I’ve lost all respect for these left-wing thinkers during this conflict. This video is right on target.
@mysterioanonymous3206
@mysterioanonymous3206 Жыл бұрын
Same. I saw that Chomsky (who contributed much value to public discourse over the years) video and was absolutely shocked. Just shocked. I still can't believe what I heard. Definitely a significant dent on his legacy....
@peterkramar6555
@peterkramar6555 Жыл бұрын
My dream is to become a climate change activist. But first I'll need my own private jet but give me some street cred.
@pa6370
@pa6370 Жыл бұрын
@@peterkramar6555 Don't do an I do, do as I proselytise! Ain't that the truth...
@oldbloke135
@oldbloke135 Жыл бұрын
A lot of these people are old men. They thought the end of the Cold War was the end of the threat. They refuse to understand that since 1991, Russia has changed from an autocracy into a kleptocracy. As "honest" left wingers, they will NEVER understand Putin's mind. They just can't comprehend infinite evil greed.
@djangofett4879
@djangofett4879 Жыл бұрын
​@@mysterioanonymous3206 chomsky gets a pass since he is 100 billion years old
@RichardHuffman
@RichardHuffman Жыл бұрын
The way Poland essentially browbeat NATO until they were admitted deserves comment all on its own. As you pointed out, the former Warsaw Pact largely wanted into NATO because they knew EXACTLY what Russia is like.
@vikkipollock5402
@vikkipollock5402 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Ukrainians have been begging to join NATO and EU because they have an insane neighbour russia!
@Lorenz1973
@Lorenz1973 Жыл бұрын
Walesa also did talk with Yeltsin about Poland joining NATO, and Yeltsin was okay with it. Yeltsin did understand that Poland is East of (West) Germany, the formerly last NATO country. And that conversation was after the often cited 1990 discussion about “NATO expansion” related to the German reunification… those earlier conversations were only attended by Americans, Russians and Germans - so they couldn’t make any binding promises about any other European country but Germany.
@renstein8210
@renstein8210 Жыл бұрын
@@Lorenz1973 Yeltsin was a very pro Western leader. Of course he was okay with Poland in Nato. He also was okay with the aggressive form of capitalism the west wanted in Russia and allowed it to happen. This is why Putin happened. One can argue that the decade of the 90s in Russia was an attempt by the west to completely exploit Russia. It was also a demographic disaster for Russia with the average life span for men falling under 60. This is why Putin happened.
@geoffreyschofield8539
@geoffreyschofield8539 Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@Turtle1631991
@Turtle1631991 Жыл бұрын
Warshaw pact has the unique distinction of being "defensive" allience that invaded itself TWICE
@dzonydzas4964
@dzonydzas4964 8 ай бұрын
Polish left wasn't fooled. Polish right wasn't fooled as well. I was luckily born in a country that sees Russia for what it really is.
@Notsogoodguitarguy
@Notsogoodguitarguy 5 ай бұрын
I think one thing people are kind of missing is that these leftists aren't historians. Wolff is an "economist" (and those are heavy quotes), Chomsky is a linguist, Jeffrey Sachs is an economist as well, Cornel West is a philosopher. Most of these people don't actually have that deep of a historical understanding. It's kind of like your critique of Kraut's video on Ilyin. They don't actually know that much (I mean, they know more than most), but they have enough knowledge to delude themselves into thinking they understand more than they actually do. I was also bought into most of the pro-Russia narrative, until I started digging into things. And every subject that I've dug into - for example, the bombing of Yugoslavia by NATO, the NATO expansion, the Cuban missile crisis, etc. aren't really as clear cut western aggression and expansionism as the "popular" narrative describes. Now I never take things outright for granted until I've done some research on the subject, even at a very basic level.
@mugjunk
@mugjunk Жыл бұрын
When Noam Chomsky and Henry Kissinger are expressing the exact same opinions you know something is very wrong.
@cascadianseagull
@cascadianseagull Жыл бұрын
I wasn't aware Kissinger is still alive. I'm glad Biden never invited that POS to the WH
@seed_drill7135
@seed_drill7135 Жыл бұрын
That they are still alive, being one.
@peterkarlsson2568
@peterkarlsson2568 Жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@gerrelldrawhorn8975
@gerrelldrawhorn8975 Жыл бұрын
There was a wonderful cartoon in an alternative magazine put out by the satirical Church of the Subgenus that showed how the world political system was actually not one of left and right...but a loop where the far-left and the far-right became one and the same. I think it had Lyndon Larouche in there at the junction...but I think now we'd have many of the same figures on the loop at that point. I first thought about that cartoon (which I should have saved) when I recall General Flynn sitting with the Green Party candidate for President at a fancy Moscow dinner back in about 2015. And who be sharing their table...Vladimir Putin and the heads of Russia Today!
@AndrewBlucher
@AndrewBlucher Жыл бұрын
​@@gerrelldrawhorn8975The idea of a loop goes back a long way. I first encountered it in the '70's, and it probably wasn't new then.
@billy2807
@billy2807 Жыл бұрын
There are many personalities I used to enjoy listening to and thinking "with" who fell into this trap. It's been frustrating, disappointing, and in some cases heartbreaking. I feel a bit better, understanding more thoroughly where they're coming from. Thank you for that, Vlad. Also - loving the overhead camera angle, boss. Great editing, great pace - this is one of your best, and worth waiting for - thank you! (Lots of love, talk soon ;) )
@KevinUchihaOG
@KevinUchihaOG Жыл бұрын
Thankfully all political/social commentators i watch regularly are pro-ukraine. But i have been disapointed by quite a few people that i liked but didnt watch all the time.
@karabenomar
@karabenomar Жыл бұрын
It is heartbreaking to hear people you know to have love and compassion within them say the most outrageous dehumanizing things without batting an eyelash. I am with you, don't despair
@igotes
@igotes Жыл бұрын
Russell Brand (who I was never a big fan of, but had some respect for him) seems to have turned into an anti-West conspiracy theory nutter, which is sad.
@billy2807
@billy2807 Жыл бұрын
@igotes he is one of the people I liked, and lost, until this video. He and I aren't BACK...but at least I can see where he's coming from - inaccurate assumptions and broken logic and all. And I can forgive him. Like he cares. :D
@tiggytheimpaler5483
@tiggytheimpaler5483 11 ай бұрын
Noam Chomsky being wrong, what a shock
@annoyingcommentator1582
@annoyingcommentator1582 6 ай бұрын
I think everything non-physics related Einstein said (of the things he actually said) were quite silly, too (or took him a lifetime to get.) Chomsky revolutionized so many fields (IT, Linguistics, Psychology...) but also spreads crackpot ideas about so much more than the things he helps us better understand. Genius does not magically make you know things, have moral intentions or let you see things disspassionately. That is just how it is. If you have "intellectual heroes", you are probably not very intellectual. People need to give these people less weight.
@kuldigszemnieks-kr1nu
@kuldigszemnieks-kr1nu 5 ай бұрын
Yeah all his arguments can be summed up in america bad.
@therealspeedwagon1451
@therealspeedwagon1451 4 ай бұрын
@@annoyingcommentator1582that’s why intelligence =/= wisdom. You can be wise but not necessarily intelligent, and likewise you can be intelligent but not wise. Albert Einstein was both of those, Noam Chomsky is not. Chomsky is just a Dollar Store Karl Marx.
@ivanbastos4963
@ivanbastos4963 2 ай бұрын
I'd love to see you actually try to refute any of what he claimed
@vidyasreeram2587
@vidyasreeram2587 Ай бұрын
It boggles my mind how some people actually take Noam 'gendocide denier' Chomsky seriously.
@erniebuchinski3614
@erniebuchinski3614 11 ай бұрын
I grew up in the US, but have lived in Helsinki, Finland for nearly 30 years. My politics are centrist and I have no axe to grind. Living in a country that has long been threatened by first the USSR and now Russia, I'd like to invite all of the ivory tower Western leftists, who have no idea what it's like to live under the threat of tyrants (real ones, and not their imagined ones), to not pontificate about things which they don't understand.
@DrBurdock
@DrBurdock 11 ай бұрын
i think Finalnd was called 'pink' for not being entirely red but cooperating with the USSR after the end of the 2nd world war. From the economical point of view that benefited Finland greatly.
@jtothed8575
@jtothed8575 11 ай бұрын
Finland was a part of Russia..
@Iverson605
@Iverson605 11 ай бұрын
Finland fought along with Nazi's...
@stefanmilojkovic
@stefanmilojkovic 11 ай бұрын
Like a Cuban who is afraid of USA
@Too-Odd
@Too-Odd 11 ай бұрын
@@stefanmilojkovic Cuban, Mexican, El Salvadoran, Venezuelan, Nicaraguan, Guatemalan, Honduran, Chilean, Columbian, Panamanian, and even Canadian.
@kevinbeaumont8750
@kevinbeaumont8750 Жыл бұрын
It's also sickening to watch the NATO countries' timidity when it comes to supplying Ukraine with the proper weapons not only to defend itself, but also to defeat Russia and take back all the territories occupied since 2014. Analytically weak, and cruel.
@EEX97623
@EEX97623 Жыл бұрын
The Baltics, Nordics, Poland have zero illusions about Russia.
@WhizzRichardThompson
@WhizzRichardThompson Жыл бұрын
​@@EEX97623That's because they live right next door to fascist Russia.
@StelzCat
@StelzCat Жыл бұрын
@@WhizzRichardThompson that's because they all want their own piece of it.
@Crusnikusum
@Crusnikusum Жыл бұрын
​@StelzCat we want Russia to stay in Russia, don't spread like cancer cell or sth...
@Crusnikusum
@Crusnikusum Жыл бұрын
​@@StelzCatfunny how Russian propagandists always attribute Russian imperialist ambition to oponents at the time, be it USA, NATO, Poland, Ukraine... as if Russia was such a peaceful nation 😂
@terjeoseberg990
@terjeoseberg990 Жыл бұрын
It was never about NATO expansion. That was about Russian expansion. NATO expansion prevents Russian expansion, which interferes with Putin’s aspirations.
@the0ne809
@the0ne809 Жыл бұрын
Putin himself wrote like 15 page long essay about Ukraine being part of Russia in 2021 but somehow, the brainless leftists online believe that it was about NATO, US imperialism, biolabs, or some nazis in Ukraine. I say that as someone who is politically on the left spectrum but I don't share some of their views on foreign policy. Many of their foreign policy takes seem to be aim for people with the brain of a child.
@todd1770
@todd1770 Жыл бұрын
😅😅😅😅 just rubbish
@OzzyBloke
@OzzyBloke Жыл бұрын
Lol
@FazeParticles
@FazeParticles Жыл бұрын
Yet NATO expanded before Russia
@terjeoseberg990
@terjeoseberg990 Жыл бұрын
@@FazeParticles, Yeah. Countries that were afraid of being invaded by Russia joined NATO. Ukraine should have joined. Then they wouldn’t have been invaded.
@tommydoeschile
@tommydoeschile 5 ай бұрын
How I didn´t find your channel before is a mystery, but my God, you can have the insight of a saint, love your content. You have the inside perspective that the Western alt-left and hard Right need to hear.
@barracuda7018
@barracuda7018 2 ай бұрын
Chomsky is dying with cognitive abilities dramatically decreased...
@hackbrettschorsch6855
@hackbrettschorsch6855 Жыл бұрын
Love how those Anti-Imperialists have no problem with completely disregarding any agency for Ukraine.
@isaacbrown4506
@isaacbrown4506 11 ай бұрын
Bruh, we saw 5 waves of Russia invading other countries 😂 that's why they started seeking NATO membership
@p382742937423y4
@p382742937423y4 6 ай бұрын
Bruh....
@stefansekulic7903
@stefansekulic7903 6 ай бұрын
Well yeh,they started a war in Moldova and Georgia in the early 90s using the same pretext as in Ukraine today, there are Russian minorities in the Baltic states which could be used as an excuse to reoccupy those countries, which is why they joined NATO in the first place.
@ignatzmeyer1978
@ignatzmeyer1978 11 ай бұрын
I would add one important factor here: anti-war/anti-militarism The Left, especially in Europe, dreams of a world without armies and weapons. This was also a popular position, since the end of the Cold War and the Warsaw Pact the sense of need for military defense decreased in the public. The war in Ukraine showed, that it can be good to have a proper military defense and that it can be a good thing to defend the own country. These are things that most of the political left despises.
@Cuzthatwouldbeweird
@Cuzthatwouldbeweird 6 ай бұрын
As a European I hear this every day. But it is ridiculous. It's actually a tool of socialist communist extremists aimed at promoting a peaceful utopia only to take control and create a communist dictatorship
@distiking
@distiking 6 ай бұрын
Old thread, but i disagree with having strong military as a good thing. The reason there is war in ukraine is the existence of authoritarian states. We have lost our chance after the 2nd world war. When only the us had the nukes this would be easy to democratise the soviet union. We wouldn't have problems with china, North Korea and iran today. Democracies don't want and don't need to spend 30% of gdp to be safe. Democracies don't have wars with Democracies. It is always dictatorship vs dictatorship or dictatorship vs Democracies. This is why the most important requirement to become a NATO member is democracy, and this is why russia was refused. This is the reason why Democracies don't need to spend large amounts of gdp for defence. If our leaders did the right thing at the right time we would be spending 0.2% of gdp for defence instead of required 2% right now, we wouldn't have wars and russia with their natural resources would be in the world top economies, if not the top.
@ignatzmeyer1978
@ignatzmeyer1978 6 ай бұрын
@@distiking In theory it would be great to have only stable democracies with a minimal need for armed forces. But since there are authoritarian and dictatorship countries out there, it would be stupid for the democracies to neglect it's military.
@user-ul9dv2iv9s
@user-ul9dv2iv9s 5 ай бұрын
Noam Chomsky disappeared mid 2023 and has not commented on it since. His model was based on the neutrality of the Finns. This crashed once Finland and Sweden announced their intention to join NATO. Soon after Noam addressed a respectful Finnish audience. J He lectured, he berated, he wagged his finger at them. They politely clapped. Chomsky slunk away not to be heard from again until the Hamas atrocity several months later.
@maciejkaczorowski1272
@maciejkaczorowski1272 4 ай бұрын
Do you have source
@user-ul9dv2iv9s
@user-ul9dv2iv9s 4 ай бұрын
@@maciejkaczorowski1272 could you be more specific?
@maciejkaczorowski1272
@maciejkaczorowski1272 4 ай бұрын
I mean do u have sorce in article about it or video
@user-ul9dv2iv9s
@user-ul9dv2iv9s 4 ай бұрын
Type in Noam chomsky: Russian-Ukraine war, Finland and Sweden joining NATO That should do it. About a year ago.
@TheJustinJ
@TheJustinJ 2 ай бұрын
Finland joining NATO was the nail in the coffin for any idea to the contrary of reality. Putin initiated obscene aggression against Ukraine, killing over one million people in the process, because Ukraine was swinging to a pro-wester way of thinking. His war provoked Finland and Sweden to immediately join NATO. These facts are self evident. Blow hard retar|)s cant argue their nonsense when the entire world has seen this.
@gerokron3412
@gerokron3412 Жыл бұрын
What blows my mind is the arrogance to picture the free will of the people of eastern Europe to join NATO in the 90ies as "NATO-expansion". For these countries joining NATO is a direct result of the occupation and surpression by Soviet Russia for more than 40 years. Russia - and the Putin-friendly political forces in the West - complain about that because they´re still not accepting the indipendence of eastern Europe. They think that is is fair enough that Russia can force eastern Europe to bend to it´s will, which is utterly ridiculous.
@Jonas_M_M
@Jonas_M_M Жыл бұрын
The USSR's collapse was a triumph over imperialism, first and foremost, a victory for nationalism, second, and, at last, though least, a sign of capitalism's success.
@bilic8094
@bilic8094 Жыл бұрын
Try putting a Russian base in Mexico and see how the US would react.
@picklejuice4638
@picklejuice4638 Жыл бұрын
@@bilic8094 Your analogy would be perfect if not for the fact that russia constantly threatens to nuke the whole west
@bb9a
@bb9a Жыл бұрын
​@bilic8094 why would Mexico accept that?
@picklejuice4638
@picklejuice4638 Жыл бұрын
@@bilic8094 Also it would make even more sense if Mexico felt threatened by USA and the will of the people were to have russian bases
@Miiabooish
@Miiabooish Жыл бұрын
As a Finnish leftie, I have grown to loathe Chomsky over the last couple of years. AND for his Ukraine takes as well.
@iamaloafofbread8926
@iamaloafofbread8926 Жыл бұрын
Forgive him. He is going through dementia, like Biden, but unlike Him, Biden is supplying Ukraine with arms, aid, and logistical support.
@arimoff
@arimoff Жыл бұрын
Leftism is a mental disorder
@AGHathaway
@AGHathaway Жыл бұрын
Same! He has absolutely gone off the rails! It's really sad.
@viktor8552
@viktor8552 Жыл бұрын
Weird how someone can be profoundly based and also profoundly mistaken.
@anguscampbell3020
@anguscampbell3020 Жыл бұрын
@@AGHathaway He was always off the rails, he refuses to acknowledge the Bosnian Genocide as a genocide and often defends Cambodia Genocide. The man is a tankie, his theories on Manufactured Consent border on conspiracy theory. Anything the west does is bad and therefore any dictator no matter how vile, must be a force for good.
@albertjolly904
@albertjolly904 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your , in the best sense even reasoning. Through a tricky set of circumstances. You're commenting on Chomsky And others in the American left made me smile in its kind critique. All the best, and greetings from Helsinki/Helsingfors.
@grud8495
@grud8495 11 ай бұрын
As a western European I have a lot of hatred for the US. However I can also acknowledge when they do good things. The US came and saved us in the second world war, and that has not been forgotten. The US is now also helping Ukraine's fight for survival, and that too I praise and respect. The world is neither black nor white, but only shades of grey. In this instance, Russia is the darkest of greys and must be countered.
@lerascurls
@lerascurls 10 ай бұрын
As an East Coast American, I have a lot of hatred for smug Europeans. The British fended for themselves in WWII prior to US involvement so I have to acknowledge this and today Europeans make excellent espresso. The world is not black and white, only shades of coffee beans. Russia is the darkest of beans.
@YujiroHanma682
@YujiroHanma682 8 ай бұрын
How is it that a random KZfaq comment has more sense than Hasan Piker?
@ThePetergate
@ThePetergate Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Vlad. As someone who agrees with much of the Progressive Left, I've been extremely frustrated over the last many months by some of the things they've said about the war. Particularly Ukraine's 'refusal to negotiate', as if that's the cause of the conflict, and that if only there was a treaty that would be the end of it.
@hurmur9528
@hurmur9528 Жыл бұрын
Yes if only Zelensky would negotiate the war he and NATO provoked according to those clowns. Upside down world from the so called progressive left. One single thing I think is important to do as a leftist and that is to be against invasions by fascists on a democratic nation fighting for its life. It is kind of a bare minimum.
@Smithsj82
@Smithsj82 Жыл бұрын
No magical treaty will end the war. When the Ukrainians state, “this war started in Crimea, and it will end in Crimea” they are dead serious. Everyone thinks if NATO stops supplying weapons, the war will end. NOTE! I have been in and out of Ukraine for going on 9 years now and own a home there. The Ukrainians will not accept any treaty giving one inch of ground to Russia. They will fight with sticks and stones first. 😢
@mihaidumitrescu1325
@mihaidumitrescu1325 Жыл бұрын
The question is: to negociate... what? The Russians do not respect any treaty (Budapest 94, Istambul 99 & Minsk Agreements). The fact that Russia (through Putin) expect that countries respect "oral promises" but they do not respect "signed treaties" for me is mindblowing!
@user-nl6zv6hz6x
@user-nl6zv6hz6x Жыл бұрын
@@mihaidumitrescu1325 Russia is not a "side" in Minsk agreements. Russia is an observer, like Germany and France. What is wrong with you, do you really not check what you write at all. OSCE resolutions are advisory in nature and their price is the same as that of verbal promises.
@mihaidumitrescu1325
@mihaidumitrescu1325 Жыл бұрын
@@user-nl6zv6hz6x that is totally totally incorrect. I will tell you "what is wrong" with me. We all know the "little green men" were, infact, Russian troups that were acting under the command of Putin. What does Russian mean? Paid by the Russian Government and under the orders of the President. How was the President in charge? By giving money to Wagner (he said that) and by presenting him with orders (Wagner themselves recognize Putin as supreme leader) Minsk Agreements: 1. 10. Withdrawal of all foreign armed formations, military equipment, as well as mercenaries from the territory of Ukraine under monitoring of the OSCE. Disarmament of all illegal group 2. 1. Immediate and comprehensive ceasefire in certain areas of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine and its strict implementation as of 15 February 2015, 12am local time. 3. 2. Withdrawal of all heavy weapons by both sides by equal distances in order to create a security zone of at least 50km wide from each other for the artillery systems of caliber of 100 and more, a security zone of 70km wide for MLRS and 140km wide for MLRS Tornado-S, Uragan, Smerch and Tactical Missile Systems (Tochka, Tochka U) If Russia does not see itself as "part in conflict" (which is weird, because the DPLR & LPR are, indeed, following Putin's order and follow aggressive war besides their teritory at this moment), Russia should have withdrawed her forces AT LEAST with article 10, which says: "Withdrawal of ALL foreign forces". What is there more to talk? On the issue of Moldova: www.peaceagreements.org/viewmasterdocument/1604 there is THIS document signed by the Russian state. There is no justification for Russia to not abide it ;) Way more powerful than "Baker's promise", don't you think?
@michaelburggraf2822
@michaelburggraf2822 Жыл бұрын
Dear Vlad, as someone deeming himself tending to the political left I'm deeply grateful for your careful and thorough piece of analysis. Thank you so much for your work. Kind Regards from Germany.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler Жыл бұрын
Regards back! Of course a lot of leftists get this, including in the West.
@lsd8497
@lsd8497 Жыл бұрын
​@@VladVexlerYour analysis ignores the human factor : the "macho" president fishing shirtless in Siberia, flying in a Sukhoy, slaying a dragon, aso, is now... sexually impotent. Alina Kabaeva is 31 years younger and the "macho man" who's secretly or subconsciously terrified he is mortal, needed a big victory to deliver to his much younger mistress/wife. Maybe a psychologist or psychiatrist could tell us more. As for the NATO promises, less than a year before Gorbachev died, he personally answered Russia TV saying there was never any NATO promise regarding a possible expansion. Furthermore, the Warsaw Pact was still formally in ace at that time. But all in all, the parallels with Hitler in the 30s are absolutely striking and I don't see any solution to this except war with NATO. I suspect Putin's hidden plan was from the very beginning this and not Ukraine.
@aiolos000
@aiolos000 Жыл бұрын
the problem isn't the left, or the right. The problem is when ideology blinds reality checks in any part of the political spectum
@AfricanLionBat
@AfricanLionBat Жыл бұрын
​@@VladVexlerthis was fantastic. Liked, subscribed, and hit that bell. Thank you for this.
@GetFochD
@GetFochD Жыл бұрын
​@@VladVexleryes the same lefties that do everything to make the rich richer and privatise everything
@Lou.B
@Lou.B 3 сағат бұрын
Very thought provoking - and well done!
@JosipMiller
@JosipMiller Ай бұрын
I worked on Germany 25 years ago. There was a team of nice Polish guys working near us. For some reason one of them change mood in a second thinking for some reason that I am a Russian. I quickly explained that I am a Croat and in that moment he apologized and we shook hands. In Croatia we also love Polish people and do not trust Putin's regime. Anyway, some people are deluded by overwhelming Russian tsarist propaganda. Polish people know best that nobody was better off under Russian rule.
@russetmantle1
@russetmantle1 Жыл бұрын
An absolutely superb video. Thank you so much. It was a really clear-sighted exploration of how people who begin from the premise that all empires are terrible, then move to the position that the US is the only world empire today, end up deducing that the US must be at least partly wrong at all times, and give tyrants like Putin far too much of the benefit of the doubt as a result. There is psychology at work here which is important to understand.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler Жыл бұрын
Hello dear you and thank you!
@1574me
@1574me Жыл бұрын
I think there's another aspect to the psychology here too. They feel special for being able to identify the subtle US imperialism that people often miss, and as a result they can't look at old-school, straight-ahead annex-your-neighbor imperialism without having to add a layer to it that only they can see.
@Nostripe361
@Nostripe361 Жыл бұрын
@@1574meyeah. That is something all conspiracy theories have. The idea that they are special and oh so smart for figuring out the true meaning that the “average” person is just to dumb or deluded to see. Add that with the popularity of bashing on America for everything on the modern internet
@zetristan4525
@zetristan4525 Жыл бұрын
"Both sides" have made horrible errors behind the scenes. But people think they must pick one side to blame. Ukrainians are paying with their lives, limbs, eyesight, trauma for this "double-sided betrayal". 🇺🇦💔
@puretone4970
@puretone4970 Жыл бұрын
I think a major part of the psychology is the fear of nuclear war. They all talk about nuclear war a lot. Actually, I would say that it is their primary concern, to the point that they are more concerned about alleviating their fear of nuclear war than they are about the safety and well being of Ukrainians.
@CaroAbebe
@CaroAbebe Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Vlad! The inability of so many Americans, even of American intellectuals, to see anything from a non-US centric point of view never ceases to amaze me. Be well, and lots of love from Austria!
@unvergebeneid
@unvergebeneid Жыл бұрын
Truly. America-centrism is the air Americans breathe and move through. It's always there and very hard to notice without making a conscious effort. And I won't deny that the same is true for a Western-centric perspective more general in Europe as well but that doesn't make it any less bizarre when viewing it from the outside.
@EnglishAbundance
@EnglishAbundance Жыл бұрын
Many non-Americans are just as American-centric. That’s why Russian propaganda about what led to the war works in places like India, China etc.
@KateryReminiec9399
@KateryReminiec9399 Жыл бұрын
What about the Republican right& their constant denial of accepting money from the Oligarchs to undermine American Democracy?
@kkpenney444
@kkpenney444 Жыл бұрын
@@unvergebeneid And yet look at how not a small portion of the world blames the US not only for this war but the majority of the world's ills. You'll have to excuse us for often taking these accusations centrally and seriously. America is always damned if we do and damned if we don't. Trust me, the vast majority of us would love to completely withdraw from the world that loves to hate us above all other true evils.
@gerrelldrawhorn8975
@gerrelldrawhorn8975 Жыл бұрын
​@@kkpenney444I agree, but one has to look at who are doing the criticism and how they benefit from what they are asking. When asking for aid, what's the grift. A business contract...is it required to have a family member of a well situated politician or military officer as 51% shareholder (without putting any investment forward). Or is aUS intervention removing their opportunity to strip land and the property of some group who has done better through hard work (and, yes, culturally based ideas of cross family alliances).
@machinesworking
@machinesworking 11 ай бұрын
This is a solid breakdown. I think it's actually really valid to look into Russian/Soviet KGB/FSB operations as another reason for the lefts (and now the rights), near conspiratorial thoughts on US foreign policy that have led to them always blaming the USA for global destabilization. There are concrete examples of how the left was driven to hate their own country more than mafia/dictatorships, and we are seeing that in the right these days for nearly the same reasons. It's super "controversial" to talk about though, because it doesn't paint either extreme in either party as being that stable. The right is even more dangerous when it comes to Ukraine right now for example, because the extremists are literally in office attempting to block aid to Ukraine.
@yidiandianpang
@yidiandianpang 4 күн бұрын
Russia doesn't want countries to be in NATO because it's harder to invade them if they are. Not much more than that .
@willhudson5625
@willhudson5625 Жыл бұрын
Really great insights Vlad! The thing that most impresses me with your work is how coherently constructed it is. Every time you bring in a new piece of analysis it's like I realize I was only looking at a small part of the painting and you pointed out another part. Keep up the great work!
@VladVexler
@VladVexler Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@bluestone9857
@bluestone9857 Жыл бұрын
This is part of the reason that I think people like Vaush, who has been openly pro Ukrainian, has been one of the best leftist figures on the internet.
@ow124-k3z
@ow124-k3z Жыл бұрын
Praise to the Karkhiv Kid Finder
@PjRjHj
@PjRjHj Жыл бұрын
I'll have to give Vaush another look
@soccom8341576
@soccom8341576 Жыл бұрын
The left are inherently confused and utilitarian - whatever seems more popular, will be what they morph into, causing great destruction while they do.
@jorgbuhler4521
@jorgbuhler4521 11 ай бұрын
"Russian security concerns" "Russia surrounded" "Sense of mission" "Russian destiny" All this makes only sense if we regard Russians as a superior race and they deserve better than such low lives as Ukrainians, Georgians, Chechens etc. - so these nations were invaded by Russia for a reason. Russia has a tradition of invading neighbors for "security concerns". Let' start in Soviet times: 1939 Finland 1953 East Germany 1956 Hungary 1968 Czechoslovakia 1980 Afghanistan Post-Soviet, when Putin came to power in the end of the 90ies: Chechnya, Georgia, Syria, Ukraine Most of these nations were Russian allies before they were attacked, however they were in danger of "drifting away" from the Russian sphere of influence. Each one of these "special military operations" led to a permanent military presence of Russian troops which only came to an end when the USSR collapsed in 1991. The other nations on the list (post-Soviet invasions) still have Russians soldiers on their territory.
@thechugganaut
@thechugganaut 5 ай бұрын
This is outstanding Vlad
@franug
@franug Жыл бұрын
I completely agree that those analysts suffer from the typical American narcissism of thinking only from the US' POV. Being from a country that actually suffered from the end stick of that imperialism (Chile), it angers me to think they see all other countries as mere victims, as if neither their population nor their states are capable of any reaction against (or for) that US' policy, now or in the past. So, it is not only intelectually poor to analyze international relationships like that, it's also laughable they see themselves as "contrarians" when, in fact, they're just as American as the Tea Party Republicans
@hannat6406
@hannat6406 Жыл бұрын
This really struck a nerve with me. So many Americans treat Ukrainians like we are not real people with real experiences, views and opinions but victims of us propaganda and don't think for ourselves. And I also see very clearly how attitude of some leftists is affected by the typical patriarchal victim image: we are constantly denied the right to feel anger or being supportive of our army. We have to be this sad sad whining in the corner, waiting to be saved victims. Otherwise, we are immediately painted as villains. Just as conservatives would claim that every woman, who actively seeks justice after being assaulted, is setting a man up. Not so different after all.
@pansepot1490
@pansepot1490 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Other commentators I follow have observed that these American leftists suffer of the same imperialist superiority complex they condemn. They deny agency and right to self determination to all countries that are not the US or Russia.
@pax6833
@pax6833 Жыл бұрын
American diabolists refuse to accept other people have agency. The narrative they sell affords people like Pinochet and other right wing authoritarian goons no culpability in their own crimes.
@goodpants1812
@goodpants1812 Жыл бұрын
American speaking up for my fellow countrymen; I find it disheartening (and a little frustrating) that people seem to see this as 'typical' for us when from here it only seems to be such for those of us who are reliably being the loudest about our politics. We're a large and very diverse nation. Neither Tucker Carlson nor Richard Wolf can claim to speak for us.
@yl9154
@yl9154 Жыл бұрын
@@hannat6406 I think your comment only applies to a politicized segment of the population, namely the MAGA right and more ideological left. I am not American, but pretty close, and I think that outside the above camps, most Americans look at Ukrainians as anything but anyone's puppets. In other words, as a people with a very strong will, identity and mind of their own. I mean, people compare Zelensky to Churchill. Sending you a churchillian "V" (for Victory) while at it! :-)
@lazarebedukadze7244
@lazarebedukadze7244 Жыл бұрын
As a Georgian I can say that he speaks very well for most of eastern Europe. You are a very intelligent man.
@ddmtsa
@ddmtsa 11 ай бұрын
ინთელიჯენტ კი არა შენნაირი გამოყლევებულია. გიხაროდენ :)
@lazarebedukadze7244
@lazarebedukadze7244 11 ай бұрын
@@ddmtsa რა არ მოგეწონა? :დდდ ანალიზი გააკეთა სიტუაციის ძალიან კარგად და თუ რამე სხვას ფიქრობ, შეგიძლია, გამოხატო აზრი და არ გადახვიდე პირდაპირ შეურაცხყოფაზე :დდდ
@ddmtsa
@ddmtsa 11 ай бұрын
ბოდიში მომითხოვია! ჩვეულებრივი დასავლური პროპაგანდაა, რომლის მსხვერპლი ხარ შენც და მთელი აღმოსავლეთ ევროპაც, რომელსაც კომენტარში ახსენებ.@@lazarebedukadze7244
@therealspeedwagon1451
@therealspeedwagon1451 4 ай бұрын
People like to forget that, compared to the Warsaw Pact, NATO is a benevolent godsend. In the Warsaw Pact, there was no say in internal or foreign policy. All countries were essentially simply vassals of the Soviet Union even if they were de facto independent. Any attempt at breaking away, any attempt at reform and actual democracy, was seen as an attack on the Soviet Union and were seen as “fascist uprisings” and were crushed by tanks. This is literally where the word “tankie” comes from.
@rsmac11
@rsmac11 11 ай бұрын
I love this. I'm an American moderate - UK university educated, military officer, walking cliche. One of the things that has always frustrated me is when people fail to call out the many flavors of "American Exceptionalism." On the Right, the concept is obvious (and silly), America is uniquely amazing and wonderful and we don't need to listen to or learn from other countries or nations because we are just so amazing. But people often fail to take note of the leg's mirror "American Exceptionalism." The concept that the U.S. is so wickedly powerful that it is single-handedly controlling and dominating the entire world. We are either the greatest heroes or the worst villains, and it's somehow harmful to the American psyche to contemplate that we are merely...fine...okay...mediocre. We do some things well, we do others poorly. We have, as a country, made some very positive contributions to humanity. We've also made some terrible mistakes. Most of what we've done though is middling. We give ourselves too much credit in too many ways. I've been privileged to live throughout th eworld, and experience a variety of cultures and forms of government. I've even lived in Crimea and Ukraine (spent about six months in Kharkiv & Yalta). The idea that the Ukrainian people are just mindless pawns in a game of US Imperialism is patronizing and condescending. You can acknowledge the self-interest that the United States has in participating indirectly in the conflict, without undermining the autonomy and agency of the Ukrainian people.
@_TeaMaster
@_TeaMaster Жыл бұрын
Please, the "Anti-Imperialist Left" was never against imperialism. It was consistently and from the very beginning pro-imperialism as long as it was anti-western
@gawkthimm6030
@gawkthimm6030 Жыл бұрын
not all of us, some of us are just you run of the mill nordic far-left democratic eco-socialist, protesting against our wars in the middle east but also Kremlin war-criminals
@EminencePhront
@EminencePhront Жыл бұрын
Hear hear.
@crmatheny
@crmatheny Жыл бұрын
Not meeeeeee (o_-) (and I'm a middle-aged anti-imperialist leftist)
@TTTT-oc4eb
@TTTT-oc4eb Жыл бұрын
@@EminencePhront Perhaps more pro-absolutely-anything as long as it is anti-western and especially anti-USA. If these guys had had been in power in 1939-1940, we would all been speaking German now. "Talking" with Putin is no different than talking with the Austrian corporal.
@tilda140
@tilda140 Жыл бұрын
Prove it
@Murderousbob1
@Murderousbob1 Жыл бұрын
Wow, you've stepped up your game in this video Vlad. The camera angles, the editing. Great job. And of course great content as always.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler Жыл бұрын
Thanks for being here!
@mnorth1351
@mnorth1351 Жыл бұрын
Indeed, it is very good. One piece of constructive criticism, posted here so Vlad might see it: the audio mix makes it hard to hear what Vlad is saying at some points, when there is a video clip (with sound) playing in the background. I think making Vlad's track louder with respect to background audio would fix it.
@gee_emm
@gee_emm Жыл бұрын
@@mnorth1351Yes! Please lower all the music tracks and sound effects, so we can hear what you have to say! 🙏🏿
@lighthousesaunders7242
@lighthousesaunders7242 Жыл бұрын
That 45 degree helicopter off-camera view is distracting and, frankly, silly. This pretentious videography isn't how better content is made. Please drop it. I love your actual, sincere content, thank you.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler Жыл бұрын
@@lighthousesaunders7242sooooo - you are confused. Most people who love the Chat channel only discover it because of the main channel. The way KZfaq shares videos to people who really treasure them is if people who semi like them watch a bit too. This video is an extraordinary investment of time - given my health, it took weeks. It shows a great commitment to reach a wider audience with healthy content. There could be a world in which it’s not like this, but it’s not this one. As it is - 90% of my content pushes wildly against the algorithm. So! Think about it! And thank you hugely for appreciating this community. You a deeply welcome and it is a massive privilege to have you here. With gratitude.
@rabidcentrist
@rabidcentrist 2 ай бұрын
One after another, you are knocking it out of the park!
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@mindfulskills
@mindfulskills 6 ай бұрын
Vlad, I LOVE the way you show unequivocally that these American leftist intellectuals are completely WRONG on Ukraine, and yet do so respectfully, leaving room for future agreement on other issues. I wish more people could voice their opinions the way you do. This is better content than the vast majority of pundits on cable making millions. You should write a book in this voice.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@justmynickname
@justmynickname Жыл бұрын
Thank you from Poland. I'm fed up with idiotic political views on Russia from many western leftists. I am lefitis in Poland and I know what Russian imperialism is.
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin Жыл бұрын
I think it depends a lot on how close you are to Russia. In France you can take a loan from some russian bank and run for president. In India, people got to be convinced why the far-off war in Ukraine is worse than the far-off war in Yemen. And for a large minority of US conservatives, us over in Euroland are just another far-off theater.
@visualcomms
@visualcomms 11 ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pstnrJSrp9aZZY0.html
@jimiwilson1029
@jimiwilson1029 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. As an American leftist who also served as a Cold War and post-Cold War soldier, and who has friends in Ukraine, I have been so very disappointed by so much of the Western left and alt-left foolishness surrounding the Russo-Ukrainian War. Then again, I saw a lot of foolishness and parroting of Kremlin talking points long before the 2022 invasion, so I guess I shouldn't have been naïve about the ability of Putin to dazzle and misdirect so much of the Western left--which, as you sagely note, is American-centric in its critique of imperialism. I appreciate that you've raised so many of my own critiques of Western left pro-Kremlin apologetics, even more clearly elucidated in your video.
@BojanPeric-kq9et
@BojanPeric-kq9et Жыл бұрын
Have you supported sanctions against US for illegal aggression on Iraq and Syria? US troops are still in Syria without anyone's approval....
@imperialinquisition6006
@imperialinquisition6006 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@BojanPeric-kq9etAny country is free to sanction the US. Sanctions are not god ordained or Bipartisan. For example Western countries who disagree with Russia have sanctioned them(refused to trade). Countries which have closer relations have not. This is such a low IQ point.
@VatnikSlayer2799
@VatnikSlayer2799 Жыл бұрын
@@BojanPeric-kq9etThe United States didn’t invade Iraq and Syria and target civilians or attempt to annex them and make them part of the United States. How can you be this dumb and not know the difference?
@technoloverish
@technoloverish Жыл бұрын
I think the thing that misleads them into thinking that way is that the US is, in some ways, responsible for starting unwarranted foreign wars and such, so they don’t trust the US’s claimed reasoning for this intervention either. To me, the real leftist position should understand that yes, the US may be bit hypocritical here, yet we should still be willing to accept that imperialism is a global issue and that any reduction of it, even from fellow imperialist governments, is still a net positive
@2hotflavored666
@2hotflavored666 Жыл бұрын
​@@BojanPeric-kq9etUN approval not enough for you?
@MathMasterism
@MathMasterism 11 ай бұрын
Claiming America is exceptionally bad is still perpetuating American Exceptionalism.
@christinamuzzu6414
@christinamuzzu6414 10 ай бұрын
What a relief when the background music ends. Please leave it out or lower the volume a LOT. So hard to hear the words otherwise. Thank you!
@ArramzyChaos
@ArramzyChaos Жыл бұрын
As a leftist I have been incredibly frustrated by this. The thinnest possible silver lining is that the topic of Ukraine has become a very good Litmus test for so called leftists.
@halfalligator6518
@halfalligator6518 Жыл бұрын
Same here. There are similar contrarian fucks on the other side of the spectrum. This contrarian stuff kind of runs perpendicular to the left/right thing.
@mikedon5205
@mikedon5205 Жыл бұрын
Think they have spent so long rightfully blaming the west over Vietnam, Iraq, and more that when Russia is in the wrong they can't get away with blaming the west .. Kaliningrad has been surrounded by the EU and Nato for years and not one nato tank has even hinted at invading it .. Putin knows a nato invasion was never happening this was always about bringing ukraine back under putin control regardless of what Ukrainians wanted
@Vulcano7965
@Vulcano7965 Жыл бұрын
A real world test of international solidarity and many have flundered it HARD.
@michaelh878
@michaelh878 Жыл бұрын
@@Vulcano7965 The vast majority of the world is against America though.
@Jorbz150
@Jorbz150 11 ай бұрын
Chomsky is not a contrarian. If he was he would have said that Russia was justified. He explicitly condemned the invasion but literally believes there is no way for Ukraine to ultimately win.@@halfalligator6518
@fodsaks
@fodsaks Жыл бұрын
When anyone glibly calls this a 'proxy war', I always remind them that they are completely misremembering the early weeks after the invasion where NATO refused to send Ukraine so much as a bullet for fear of 'poking the bear'
@patrickryan7829
@patrickryan7829 Жыл бұрын
Plus the orange one used the carrot of aide for corruption.
@snuffeldjuret
@snuffeldjuret Жыл бұрын
and if anything, it is a proxy war between the us and china.
@daysjours
@daysjours Жыл бұрын
Ex-CIA Director Leon Panetta openly called this a proxy war. It´s on video. Look for it. I guess the former director of US intelligence is a dope.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler Жыл бұрын
I do call this a proxy war, but my usage of the term is neutral. This is a good proxy war where the proxy needs all the support it can get.
@katerinacervenkova5797
@katerinacervenkova5797 Жыл бұрын
​@@VladVexleryou have never been to a war, have you? You have never sent a son to a war, have you?
@davidmallia628
@davidmallia628 4 ай бұрын
The left lapping up to fascists. When the left goes to the extreme they circumb to, not moving to an opposing position 180 degrees away, but coming full circle, 360 degrees, to meet the far right, becoming one and the same.
@OO-tc3wx
@OO-tc3wx 11 ай бұрын
thank you for your video's Vlad Vexler... a breath of fresh air
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 11 ай бұрын
My pleasure and thank you!
@jankucera8180
@jankucera8180 Жыл бұрын
This really must be one of the most important videos you made, up to now. I am from Czechia. Most of your readers probably cannot imagine how bitter my feelings are every time I hear any of these intellectuals, like Mr Chomsky, but also some of my friends in the West, talk about some concessions that should be made to Putin... What I would respond to them is the following: If you are honest, then you should go and try to live under the Russian boot. In no time you would feel it kicking your head, if you behaved the way you are normally used to. Maybe an over-simplified view... but I still believe the point is valid. There is a reason why every "Eastern-European" nation, given a chance, tries to run away from Russia... It takes a great mind to show, WHY things are the way they are and which thoughts of these "Western left" people are wrong...
@skp8748
@skp8748 Жыл бұрын
Chomsky denies the Bosnian genocide
@michaelh878
@michaelh878 Жыл бұрын
If you love American foreign policy so much, why don't you go live in Libya, Iraq or Afganistan?
@jankucera8180
@jankucera8180 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelh878 I do not really see any connection between what I wrote and your question. Moreover, I have no idea know where your assumption comes from...
@frufruJ
@frufruJ Жыл бұрын
@@michaelh878 Typical whataboutism. This is exactly what Vlad said in the video - USAmerican imperialism is both good and bad. Russian one is only bad. The levels of bad are WAY different. Whataboutism has been the Russian/Soviet government's excuse for many decades. We used to tell this joke: Western journalist: "How many monthly salaries does an average Soviet worker need to be able to afford a car?" Soviet politician: "And you beat the black people!"
@frufruJ
@frufruJ Жыл бұрын
Ahoj, krajane! 👋When I hear prof. Chomsky, I hear the same condescension toward us as from Putin, or as Chamberlain in 1938. They would tell US what WE should do. It was OUR choice to join the NATO, FFS! We're an independent country, we can make our own decisions, and we're done being pushed around. The Brits (and the French, too, from what I've heard) tend to do that, look down on anyone from "the East" (not all of them; of course, this is a generalization). His, and that of the others in this video, patronizing way of talking about Ukraine reminds me of Munich. Sure, let Hitler have the Sudetenland, who cares about some bloody Czechoslovakia? Let Putin have Crimea, sure he'll stop there and not go any further...
@chill29394
@chill29394 Жыл бұрын
Maybe a next video could be "How Putin fooled the Western right"? It's interesting to see both far right and left being fooled by same people just with kinda different sets of ideas.
@dsef6548
@dsef6548 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Agreed
@simoncordingley3122
@simoncordingley3122 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I’m probably somewhere close to political centre, with some left and right leanings. I’m totally against the Russian invasion of Ukraine and see Putin as a thug. An intelligent and wily thug, but a thug nonetheless. I have some friends though who are so anti-Biden (I have no problem with that) that they are actually pro anyone who is perceived to be in opposition to him. This is very weird and anti-intellectual thinking, but it exists nonetheless.
@snuffeldjuret
@snuffeldjuret Жыл бұрын
I don't think there was any fooling going on there, tbh.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler Жыл бұрын
Good idea!!!!!
@tubthump
@tubthump Жыл бұрын
I pity the fool who can't see that the 2014 "Maidan revolution" was just another US regime-change operation and that notions of left-wing or right-wing politics are irrelevant
@transmogriff
@transmogriff 11 ай бұрын
Just a suggestion Vlad - the music at times makes it difficult to hear what you're saying in this and some of your other videos, maybe consider lowering the music volume slightly.
@DawnSTyler
@DawnSTyler 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for not lumping all the people on the left into one perspective on this issue.
@bonfoobl
@bonfoobl Жыл бұрын
Mr. Vexler, I really appreciate you modelling critical analysis that aspires to transcend tribalism, presents opposing views in good faith and reminds everyone to “invite everyone to the table.” You’re an island in a storm.
@Subher0
@Subher0 Жыл бұрын
16:41 Mic drop moment for me: "There is no nuclear risk-free way of standing up to Putin's imperialistic aggression." Nothing to add.
@user-mi2fp2wu1e
@user-mi2fp2wu1e 11 ай бұрын
This speaks volumes about your intellectual quality that you even look into the “NATO expansion” argument seriously and analysing. We here discard it altogether without a second thought.
@MrAlexkyra
@MrAlexkyra 4 ай бұрын
The frustrating thing about Chomsky's take is that he acts like Ukraine in general and Zelenskyy in particular, wanted a ceasefire with Russia more than it wanted military support, says this like its obvious but in fact there's no evidence of it. He's so determined to blame the US for the situation that he ignores what Ukrainians actually say and want.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 4 ай бұрын
I think that’s fair.
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