I think I speak for a lot of us consumers (not all) when I say we only care somewhat about climate change or don't care at all. I can see environmental pollution as a bigger issue, but knowing a product I'm buying is "100% recycled" doesn't make me want to buy it any more (makes me less likely to with food packaging). I wouldn't want to buy something just to feel like I'm "helping the environment" but compromising on what I'm actually looking for with the product and paying higher prices. The best outcome would be for businesses to maintain or improve the quality and prices of their items, while also finding newer ways to promote environmental sustainability. That way consumers won't have to settle for less and would demand more environmentally-safe alternatives.

If you don't stop killing life , life will kill you all

Yeah I smiled when he said that... failure is completely normal and part of any good development process, so good on him for embracing it and for trying again after each failure until he gets what he's looking for.

He said “new solutions”

I all in reusing waste byproduct but, why don't they make dishes using the skin???

Nothing new about fish skin leathers. Historically very common.

As long as we continue a commodity obsessed society products like this are not the solution. Fish leather cuts down on waste, but it does nothing to prevent overfishing and will increase the demand for fishing.

@KZfaq Commenter In the documentary they clearly say it's used for sushi.

@KZfaq Commenter Troll fail.

It is already fertiliser,they are wasting energy on transport and manufacture to sell it more easily- sickening

@KZfaq Commenter exactly what you said, they got it from a sushi shop. The main conditions of them processing the fish skins is that the skins must came from a place where the meat is consime, not from a place where people specifically bred the fish for leather.

Yeah except the fishes are acooped from the bottom of the ocean by factory-ships, which dump back up to 90% (ninety!!) of the animals they catch back in the ocean, mostly dead after sorting. It's this a good thing? Do you know there will be no more fish in like 2050 if we continue like this? Stop eating industrial fish from the ocean for starters

There are also fish skin snacks in many Asian countries

Wait how can it be "potato chip" if its made from fish skin?

@@imaginefinding the shape of it is reminiscent of potato chips but yeah it’s just fish skin

What do you mean it’s merely tasty? It’s HEAVENLY!!! Especially spicy salted egg fish skins! 🤤🤤🤤

White people are spoiled with boneless and skinless meats like it’s not a waste

Actually some supplements do process the scales for the collagen for the anti-aging effect. And I have seen some fish scales fried and turned into an appetiser dish (can’t recall which show I saw this from, probably Bizarre Foods). And I’ve tried certain fish bones too (eg: unagi spine, or long braised fishes like canned fish).

You know what might really shock you? I'd estimate that half of the chicken skin in the U.S. is thrown away. Rural, poor, or Southern communities have recipes specifically for skin-on chicken, but the vast majority of chicken products sold are completely skinned. I grew up eating it, so when I started going to friend's houses and especially when I went off to college, it really surprised me to see that even on the rare occasion that folks were served skin-on chicken, most would peel it off before they ate it.

You eat the gills?

@@lynbabysusu "anti-aging" is bullshit tho

@@RochelleHasTooManyHobbies I mean, typically it's just rubbery nothing-calories, and it rarely if ever seems even edible

Where?

@@iamandrewj most of Asian countries it’s edible so why waste it even some western countries don’t ate fish head

A lot of fish skins are not enjoyable or edible, some are

@@ag4103 Salmon skin is enjoyable after being fried though. Considering that is what makes up the majority of Ictyos' raw materials, it is such a sad waste of a food source, especially before this whole fish leather business began.

You should make a business. Fry the leftover skin. It's a popular snack in Easter part of asia

As pointless as bioplastics. if they farmed them they would definitely use the meat for something (cat food for example). They only use food waste because it's cheaper for them.

@@GorgyCL You're missing the point because the point of the fish leather was to take food waste that would be just thrown away, and turn it into something useful. They make sure the place that they're taking from isnt just farming hides so that food waste doesnt go to waste.

@@Macc985 Again, it wouldn't go to waste if farmed. If this thing picks up they'll surely start farming just for the markup of a special kind of leather.

@@GorgyCL No my point is that they are taking food waste that would be wasted in the first place and taking it and turing it i to something useful. The point of the fish leather was to recycle the fish skins and just farming it would completely ruin the point.

@@GorgyCL its not primarily a cost issue. They started this business to eliminate a waste product. If you allow for farming youll just have more of the same problem they are trying to help resolve. We dont need more mass farming. We need to utilize whats already being produced on a mass scale and prevent that waste from entering our environment.

I used to work at a grocery store that had a sushi guy, he used to throw away the salmon skins untill he started giving them to me. I used to eat fried salmon skin as regular lunch, its one of the things I miss most from that job lol.

Agreed. I love trout skin.

Love the carp fish leather

this is the first thing i thought of, fried salmon skin is fantastic, especially as a side to rice

Yeah, it's a common practice here in Brazil to eat fried fish skins as a side dish in sushi restaurants. I thought it was more common worldwide. Btw, I aways grill salmon steaks with skin.

Exactly what i was thinking! Their choosing to make this New idea seem revolutionary and genius, when in fact its just another way of manufacturing, and by the looks of the size of fish skin, it probably takes even more time, effort and machines/chemicals than regular cow hide

@@alexsyld5410 that's how most of these "environmentalist" companies work

Chrome tanned leather is really nice shit, but it's certainly not the only type of leather there is, in fact I'm not even sure if it's the most common type considering how many other processes and types of leather there are on the market.

Yes, the comparison he made was completely stupid.

Yep, seemed kind of suspicious to me that the ecological benefits were basically limited to choice of tanning agents and dyes, along keeping a small amount of methane out of the atmosphere from skin decomposition. By no means is this a bad thing, but they're really overselling the environmental aspect of fish skins while disparaging cow leather for reasons that have nothing to do with the source animal

Company name? Do they sell this products online? It is wesome this exists.

The larger size makes more sense.

What company is this? I'm Aussie too and would love to support that WA company

Do you sell?

sounds like my wild barramundi leather wallet iv used daily for 10 years. the barramundi is caught by my mate froggy up in the Kimberley

It is, perhaps a better way to promote the product without making people feel gross is by calling it “Marine” Leather which the video used once, and instead of naming the fish by their common english terms they should use the scientific names to sound fancier... like cyprinid instead of carp

That would solve the Asian carp invasive fish in the us

Will it still smell like fish though 🤔 😂

@@feartheghostinme675 1:50 They wash it in concentrated solutions to remove the smell, so don’t worry

Yeah I mean throwing out fish skin doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me. These guys found a good way to make money though!

We used it for shoes etc. During the second WW, in Denmark, Germany took all our cow hides.

@@gertbamse1 Bastards.

Hello from the USA! I just wanted to say that a lot of times here in Texas most people straight up discard the fish skin. I am a fisherman and know a ton of people who actually just take the fillet and throw away the rest. Its never sat right with me because as a latino we eat all of the fish. So i think this is will solve an issue if implemented here.

Fish leather has been a thing since humans.

This is a very niche market being supplied by a very niche manufactory. The market for fish leather is really really small. It's glued on to cow hide, almost exclusively, to give regular leather a fish look, meaning it is actually worse for the environment than just using beef-cow hides lmao

@@grarglejobber7941: I found it inspiring. Let me be inspired.

If you don't stop killing life , life will kill you all

Eh, I find it to be even fishier than the original fish it came from, the brands I have had at least, too fishy for me, makes me gag.

Great snack with cold beer

@@rdizzy1 some of those companies don't clean off the residual fish fats, making it fishier than the actual fish. I clean off everything from my fish skins before I deep fry them. Some fish scales are edible too. Scales on fish like salmon, crappie, sunfish, and smelt.

The carcasses too. I used to work at a store where we filleted all the fish ourselves and we had hundreds of pounds of fish skin and carcasses. We had a marina tho that we would go to and feed all the local fish tho. Big goliath grouper. Tarpon. Snapper. Sharks. They always ate every little bit.

If you don't stop killing life , life will kill you all

Ask your local dog rescue if they want them! We get byproduct from our local butcher and other places and our dogs love it.

If you don't stop killing life , life will kill you all

Better still, eat the skins. Perfectly good food and it’s ridiculous that it’s wasted. If we want leather, the Portuguese have it nailed. They make it out of cork. It gets used in Italy to produce high quality upholstery.

@@CitizenAyellowblue yes I didn't realise until today that it could be eaten (and enjoyed)!

These types of leathers could (hopefully will) reduce the killing of other animals like snake or aligators, plus it's taking a by-product of an existing process (fish caught and processed for food).

@@Tao_Tology Gator is farmed and eaten just like the fish. The snake I don't know about.

@@SageandStoneHomestead 'is farmed and eaten' And is under more threat. Having another way, and a cheaper way, to make this product helps protect other species.

It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.

Didn't you ever hear of eel skin wallets?

Probably backed with something a bit tougher... as a crafter, all I can see are inlays, overlays, a new hatband, etc...

Youve never fished have you? Fish skin is by no means thin and weak....

@@eftheusempire Compared to cow hides, they are very thin and weak.

yep, snacks using salmon skin are a bit pricy in my country. not a waste at all

The skin is the best bit of a well cooked piece of fish.

@@fakhri21 They are pricey in every country. Ironic considering they probably pay next to nothing for their raw materials. I saw an ad recently for salmon skin they wanted $60 a pound.

Same It's crazy how a sushi restaurant doesn't have the idea to just deep fry the skin into chips and serve it as another dish. Lack of vision.

@@Oooo-bi7bi ikr (i know right) it's really good 😉

hahaha get it? scalable? scales? ahaha

@@juntingiee2602🚪

yeah u can do the same with pork skin (chicharon)

@@Pacman2403 yeah i think it's called pork rinds in USA? we have it in Scandinavia as well

@@Pacman2403 mhm chicharon is very delicious I dip it in vinegar yum

@@fourdoorsmorehoes yea pork rinds, crackling. couple names depending on location. delicious. i recomend halitbut skin. skin the halibut, trying to remove a lot of meat as possible . then boil for 1m then place on rack in oven low fan at 150 for maybe 1-2hours u want a dry consistency. then u fry them in a fryer. and they puff right up like a huge cheeto. by boiling the skin it removes most of the fat and fishy flavour. and enjoy for a cool party snack with a dipping sauce.

the earth doesn’t let it go to waste. It’ll decay and decompose and soil will use the nutrients for life

Congrats .

I'm convinced that the big investors and analysts are trying to scare us to keep us poor and ignorant to the market.. because its steady doing good after all the jobless and market crash talks

Congrats and wishing you the best .

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Capitalism creates the waste with a commodity obsessed culture. You have to end capitalism if you want humanity to have a shot at surviving more than a century from now. Its basic science.

Now with fish farms popping everywhere we should really encourage fish farming and stay a little away from the oceans, we already made enough damage to them. Don't you think?

@@rhoula never!!! It.can handle it! Has for years! So what if species are going extinct?!? People need to eat wild caught fish because the farmed fish, while tasting the same, are inferior! And of course I'm screwing with you. We need more farmed fish. The oceans need to recover. The planet as a whole needs to...

@@brandonk6479 we produce enough food right now to feed everyone on earth. We dont need more farming. We need less capitalism. The reason we do not distribute the food to starving people is there is no profit incentive. How did we as a society get tricked into thinking paper money was worth more than entire communities of living beings?

Same here. The only fish we skinned was catfish. Larger fish were filetted, so we didn't eat that skin. But everything else was de-scaled and went into the frying pan.

@@yepiratesworkshop7997 😅😅😅😅 i eat even the shark skin,

@@BlackMamba-lt8oe That stuff's like sand paper! But I know it is used for leather. Back in the 1970s I had a pair of cowboy boots that were made of sharkskin. Tonly Lama Boot Co. I bought 'em at Shepler's in Wichita, Kansas. Those things lasted years longer than the combat boots Uncle Sam gave me.

@@yepiratesworkshop7997 yes bro sand paper 😅😅😅😅

Not all fish skins tatse good but salmon skin is yum yes

There is a lot of snake in my country, we don’t mind you take it 😂😂

Snake with human head

Both fish leather and snake leather are worse for the environment than beef-cow leather.

So instead of using fish hide leather, we use other type of leather that goes to landfill, and the fish hide goes to landfill... That's two times the amount of hide going to landfill

I don't know, man. I've been to traditional tanneries and they're awful. Ictyos' facilities seem way cleaner and I'd take fish smell over boiled hides and chemical fumes every day of the week

Imagine if a buss full of blind lesbians crashed into that place. It'd be total mass confusion.

still better than ladies in their periods 😅😅😅😅, smell like blue cheese

now adays u dont get leather, they sell faux leather and say its real leather

@@BlackMamba-lt8oe Not if you buy the leather as is and make something with it. I go to the leather store and its real. Fake stuff is pressed leather and you can tell from just feeling it. Fabrics are the same way... can't fool the touch of the real stuff.

@@ShiningSakura yes bro but shopkeeper are using fake. leather and claming its real leather.

​ @Black Mamba .... not a bro by the way just a lady who is a master level cosplayer who has worked with leather and fabric long enough to know these things..... If you get your two fingers and literally feel it between your fingers back and forth top to bottom, smell the leather for that undenyable leather smell from the tanning process chemicals/veg tanning, give it a little stretch to see how it reacts, as well as look at it at the side profile and underside you will be able to tell fake from real... this includes bonded leather. check for the natural ways it stretches along the armpit areas vs other parts.... yes leather stretches differently depending on where it is located on the animal. If it is fake it will always stretch the same no matter which direction/location you pull from if you are buying full or half of an animal. Higher quality leathers are usually smaller and more uniform making it slightly more tricky to see this, but there are still the same indicators. If you know how leather feels, looks, and behaves when manipulated you will not be fooled. You cannot fully fake leather no matter if parts of it are real and parts are not. Anyone with experience with real 100% leather for a long time will know this.... Fake leather reacts differently than real leather no matter how close they try to imitate it, it will not act like true leather under certain circumstances. If you know these things you can spot a fake. Sorry your shopkeepers are doing that where you live, but where I live that's not the case.

It would be similar to the decomposition of other leathers. That is to say that it would be better for the environment than things like vegan leathers- a.k.a. plastic and synthetic materials but not as good as something like wool or untreated cotton. Edited for spelling

90% of all leather goods made around the world are made using chrome-tanning, for a bunch of legitimate reasons. Specialty goods do exist and there is a market for them - a very expensive market at that - but to say there is a huge desire for it is kind of grandiose. Source: am a leathercrafter who loves that there is a niche and very expensive market to sell to. Want me to make you a sheath with fish skin glued on it? It'd be worse for the environment than just a regular sheath but it'll be made using restaurant waste so you can at least feel a few smuggies and tell your friends how you are saving the world when they ask about your sheath lmao

Wow that's strange!

My dog eats leftovers fish skin without a problem. If its fried or crisply baked I will even it it myself, It's also a good source of "fish oils" omega 3 etc...

Mmmmm fried salmon🤤

Bang on , I feel like the environmental impact of researching for 3 years then building and maintaining a factory far outweighs the end product. Swapping one issue for another Imagine if they had to build another 10000 factories around the world to process fish leather, feel like that’s taking a step backward

Yes!

Interesting idea.

I wish you a bright future my friend :)

With the number of billionaires in this world, nobody should be going to bed hungry. What the hell do they do with all that money -- worship it?

the time and labor to yield such a minuscule amount of fish meat would not be ideal, I'm more than positive they would have took that step if it was doable.

You're a punny guy

U drop dis: 👑

burying fish heads in your back yard congratulations perhaps if you did anything for those grocery stores and restaurants to incentivize them to not throw them out or provided a way to deal with it directly through your own input that would be more productive than asking a KZfaq video why they cant do something their company is not designed for and sends recyclable waste elsewhere for as an already existing solution

another commenter put it perfectly "the time and labor to yield such a minuscule amount of fish meat would not be ideal" it is not profitable and nothing in this world is done without money behind it

@@TheTctoocold There is nothing that I can do for the grocery stores because they are contractually obligated to dispose of the food. It would require enforcement (as I mentioned above) to alter this. This is a vanity project that could be used to better effect such as natural fertilizer. Take the frozen blocks and put them in chippers or mix them into animal feed. Some cities have made it so that if food is still edible it has to be donated or like I suggested they are forced to truck it to composting/animal feed centers. Typically though grocery stores are required to not only toss but destroy the food beforehand making it inedible. I used to work in a large chain (but still considered a smaller store) and witnessed how much is tossed daily, roughy enough to fill a semi-trailer before it was compacted. This was perfectly good food, still in expiration codes, but due to contracts, it had to be destroyed.

Did you watch the video? They only take skin from fish that is eaten

Good luck convincing many people to eat it... Gross to many Westerners.

Probably more enviromentally friendly to us them as fertilizer too.

Freeze them and put them in the garden later. Works wonders.

If it’s fried I think it is the most tasty part.

If I live there, I would have open Fish Skin Restaurant.. 😁😁Its free material.

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Imagine,, spicy fired skin with Beers,, dammm.. With vodka, dammm,, with whisky and friends,, dammm. Sitting by the river side,, dammmm. Why were I not born in that part of the world..