Fither: *Puts Shido in C tier* "Damn brat I'll sue!"

"Middle aged and older men tend to have the best links" - aren't most of the writing staff around that age? Would make sense

I laughed when I realised he put both Kanji and Yusuke in S tier-who both happen to be voiced by Matthew Mercer. I swear he always plays his roles perfectly.

>Koromaru not in SS tier BRUH

"i'm straight, in case you couldn't tell" said by someone too deep in his bernadachi voice acting it's a bit too convincing

There is no better phrase that describes Sojiro Sakura than, "Aged like fine wine."

*As long as Adachi is not lower than S Tier*

"Be old or be dying, that was the secret to being a good social link on Persona 3" *Yes.*

I think the reason why the middle aged social links work better than some of the teens is because the writers aren't young teens running around school saving the world. They probably understand the adults better and naturally they can write interesting stuff with them.

*overused Akihiko quote here*

Hot take: Akechi's nonsense made him a better character than he was before the betrayal

The power of my gay is not strong enough for this one.

Now we need the best party Personas Tier List Design.

Everytime door kun gets a good spot i become really happy

If Junpei isn't AT LEAST A+ I'm downvoting this. edit: yeah you ok

>Persona 2 boys arent on the tier list I got told that Fither got pantsed in Junior High and never recovered. Wonder what that's all about.

if Igor isn't S tier, I am transferring all of my student loan debt to you

I love you just for putting Yusuke in the highest rank. He really deserves it. Thank you!

I rate Yosuke really highly because his high points are amazing, he's SIMILAR to both Narukami and Adachi but not in any particular direction. P4A, he's basically the protag. Though Junpei does have a stronger arc, so they may be around even, or Junpei just edging the win. I would bump Shido up, he's literally a prime minister candidate, of course he has that much reach, on top of that him trying to temporarily kill himself for one last gamble to win is amazing. Yeah, Akechi is a special case where he's infinitely interesting but maybe not for the best reasons.

Big respect for not crapping on Kenji, he was the first social link I maxed in the first Persona game I ever played and let me tell ya, hearing him tell P3MC that _he's always gonna be my friend_ really hit me where it hurts knowing how the game ends. Same with Keisuke promising not to let anything happen to P3MC while he's still alive.... shit, same with Junpei asking if we'll always be friends.... oh god, this game..................

I think the appeal of older men SL/C is that, in these games you're a second year student, or a junior in high school. You're just barely reaching the cusp of adulthood and you have to deal with all these things, both small and large scale. Meeting these regular-ass guys, who've been through things you as the protag haven't, but still willing to give their time to talk to you and forge a bond I think acts as a breath of fresh air

I'm really glad Minato was that high up he's my favorite but people overlook him cuz they usually play P4/P5 before P3/don't understand the ending/or haven't played it. it really hurts for me so I'm glad you enjoyed his 2009 edginess

The takeaway? Fither likes old men

Hooray, someone else who appreciates Naoki! I love how his social link provides extra closure to the early storyline with Saki. And his story is a surprisingly realistic look into the nature of dealing with personal grief. Also in general you have great taste!! Especially with all the older guys, Akihito, Kanji, and Yusuke.

what I like about namatame is that he subverts a lot of tropes that go with characters with a "messiah complex" most of these characters are usually depicted as egotistical/overconfident. Namatame is almost the polar opposite, in terms of personality anyway. Fairly self-conscious/depressed and is a guy down on his luck. He takes on the act of trying to "save" people cause he genuinely feels like it's his only way to make a difference in people's lives. As you said, he gets caught up in a web of complexities that he was never given a proper guide for. By the end of persona 4, he is twisted by the goal he set himself up for. Even after he probably knew something was wrong. I genuinely do feel like he would've been a hero/party member/confidant if he was approached early on in the story.

i never realized just how much the P3 second awakenings help the story. they really should bring those back.

My thoughts exactly on Nozomi. Fat

I like Ken more as a premise than a person. I played 5, then 3, then 4 but had had 4's cast spoiled by various countdowns and VE's over the years. 3's cast was only half spoiled, Ken was among the characters I had no idea about. I am more or less indifferent to him as a person but I appreciate the fact that there is a younger child party memeber in a game so dominated by teenagers. I get that they are high school games and I'm not saying the amount of teens is bad, it just makes Ken stand out as more unique. And that diversity is also helped by Aegis and Koromaru too. (Koro best animal party member)

26:00 isn't the reason Shido and the main cast of p5 so deeply intertwined come from how they're all pieces in yaldybois game? Like that is straight up the reason/a big reveal, it's not coincidence, it's how the pieces of the (rigged) game play out (and due to the game being rigged, were going to play out this way). Sae even mentions that there is no way the phantom thieves got involved with Shido right after Kamoshida's palace (and thus continuing their work) and the daughter of wakaba and just all of that other "there is no other way to feasibly describe this bs as anything other than a coincidence" stuff via a simple coincidence. It's not that Shido has so much power that he can brainwash the populace, it's just that he is p5's version of p4's fog, a tool of the games respective god to fulfill what the people are unconsciously desiring. In p5 it's the security of not having to think for ones self, and p4 has the comfort of not needing to confront truth/others (or something of the sort).

Yosuke should be higher, he has the best bromance with the protagonist of all the series, and how they made ren so boring in the anime, ChadNarukami win all the way as the coolest protagonist.

akihiko is also my favorite thank you fither. sojiro was the only to survive the glasses snap.

Post-royal, watching you put Akechi between Teddy and Morgana with such... Security knocked the wind out of me

Akechi was less likable after his heel turn Adachi is the exact opposite IMHO

Honestly instead of Haru's father they should've made Haru's fiance the target. We see that Haru's dad isnt evil per se, just ignorant of what his employees and especially his daughter go through while he tries to make the most out of life. Haru's fiance tries to rape her in an alleyway. The easy arguement is that it would feel like too much of a retread of Kamoshida's palace, but just age up the fiance a couple years (about age 25-27), have him beg for sympathy by saying his dad died leaving him in charge of the company 2-3 years ago, and just have his employees get treated like shit by him. And then just have the issue of Haru's confidant be her taking over the company soon after her father chooses to retire or go into hiding due to the shit that's been going down recently, going as far as the fiance of his daughter dying. He'd come off as an asshole, sure, but Haru ends up needing to run a company before graduating high school either way.

Good opinions. I would genuinely have loved a gay relationship option with Yusuke in Royal. He makes a better couple with Joker than any of the girls.

Door-kun and Akinari are the most sick in the franchise, so sick in fact, that they died.

*Puts Kanji in S tier* You have my biggest respect

I love your Adachi voice.

I'm a simple woman with simple needs: Whenever i see my darling artsy boy Yusuke in the S tier and i cheer, then i cheer even more at seing my sweet young man Aki get the same recognition! You sure taste in good (and in these 2 cases: attractive) male characters, i'm glad P3's protagonist is on a high tier too!

Joker should get S tier cause he won Evo

Aged man social links all the way bois! But seriously, I would be ready to put Yoshida in S tier. There’s no way you can find a better confidant in P5.

Ryoji Mochizuki only got to B im going to commit a crime ps of course his relationship with the protag had kinda romantic vibes in the movie, he's not only the protags literal soulmate but also comes out as bi if you romance him in p3p

Yosuke is the best bro character

"I'd put her in the same tier as Mitsuru and Naoto somewhere in A tier" YOU PUT BEST GIRL NAOTO IN A TIER, NOT SS? Irredeemable, actually criminal.

As someone with glasses, I don't know how to feel about this.

This tier list is basically perfect especially S tier the 3 best boys

I only thought ikutski or whatever his name is was evil because he looked like that one Strega guy and I thought they were the same person.

Now that we have Zenkichi to add onto the "cool older men" pile, I'm really starting to wonder what it is about all the heroic-aligned adult men in this series that makes them all so cool to be around.

Ken being in B- hurts and so does Yosuke being in B but I respect it 😔 But at least Yusuke is in S tier, good boy

All of Shibuya: *exists* Kaneshiro: _It's free real estate_

That was the best description of Goro's appeal i've ever heard

The best bois and best traitor in S Thank you

Since you love yusuke all that much you should really read beastars (the anime is good but netflix keeps it in limbo for no reason at all.) Because legosi, the main character, is essentialy yusuke on steroids, a lovable oddball that everytime you see him doing something you can't help but smile, also beastars is a great series as a hole, full of great characters and the society of beastars is preety realistic, like the fact that carnivores can't eat meat because it's extremely ilegal, so they eat stuff that helps suplement meat like beans for iron and carboidrates for that fat they need, and this is only the surface, don't go with the bias many people have of: it's furry shit, then it must be fan service, because it's not.

Yeah, Kamoshida and Madarame are the best villains in P5. Kamoshida is someone I actually want to beat up and Madarame is different in how he’s villainous.

Morgana starts at C for Cat Tier, but then gets bumped up to B for Bus Tier. Then B- for B minUS. And C Tier ends up being "Needs Glasses to C Tier.

Loving the Tier list, now what would be interesting is ranking All the music from persona 2-5, it would be interesting to see (remixes like the smash one and the dancing games would be cool but ik thats a lot)

The best bro is hands down brosuke And Ryuji is also amazing

_Junpei more like Stupei amirite_

In Q2 Liz dresses Theo as a bucket of popcorn for the whole game

I love this list; my only alterations would be moving Koromaru and P3 Protag into S tier with the rest of the top bois

Kaneshiro should be a little higher cuz his place theme is god tier. Only behind Sae’s place theme

Mark is in a tier that cannot be seen by mortals

Fither praising Yusuke gives me life because Y u s u k e .

royal really redeems akechi/pancake-kun

I just realized that Mishima is literally the most important character in persona 5

The 3rd semester goro is A+ their to me

Opening my yuskuke nendoroid during this I can confirm he is best boi

I like Noaki, his social link is the first one I ever maxed out, and for some reason I just really like his social link.

SMT! NOW! also thanks for existing fither.

Hell yeah Akihiko and Yusuke in S tier

you put kanji in s tier. i trust you.

Akinari is an S tier. Best sick Persona boy.

Yusuke in S Tier Here, A like for you kind sir

Yeah you’re tastes in persona characters are extremely similar to mine. Aside from the fact that you rated Chie like mid tier in your other video, which I get she can be annoying in the spin-offs sometimes. Personally though I like her so much in the main game that any flanderization she received in the spin offs is null and void.

Surprisingly I relate to this tier a lot, especially with Adaji, Iwai, Mishima and Makoto/Minato)

Yusuke, kanji, and adachi in S tier is all I needed to see

*puts Kanji in S-tier* Damn straight son 😎👍 (kinda ironic to say but I don't care)

Fither is S tier

I play akihiko in p4a and cross tag just because he's one of my favorite video game characters of all time even though he's not great in those games. No matter how much he transforms into the yoga instructor from aggretsuko in the spinoffs he will always be best boy

Agree with everything on this list...except Akechi belongs in S tier.

LEAVE BEBE ALONE HE'S WHOLESOME

Bro, Ann in A and ryuji? A fellow man of culture

*Puts Yusuke at S-Tier* I see, your are a man of cultur as well. Also you put the Persona 5 Dads in A+ is great too, I like all three of them.

idk if its a hot take or not because i feel like junpei isnt a character i see discussed a lot compared to ken or shinji, but i just have a really hard time liking him? junpei has this whole thing where from the first mission through most of the game you see this resentment towards you grow, but unlike almost every other persona character, he has no social link and you have no way to talk to him about it or try to acknowledge his feelings to actually solve the problem. you just sort of wait for him to sort out his feelings himself even though its a problem that directly should have involved you. i havent played girl mode in a while, but as i recall even when he did get a social link it felt tacked on and didn't address a lot of what i would've liked it to? i don't hate junpei but he falls into this weird realm of "just a teammate" for me. like, this is a character i wouldn't mind working with, but what i've seen of who they are keeps me from really ever wanting to be friends with them. the main character has no hand in the things that make junpei hate him, and i dont want to deal with someone who decides they dislike based off of things i didn't have anything to do with. yes he grows and changes like most everyone in this series, but that doesn't erase the person he was and the way he acted before that.

Why is Kanji here, hes best girl

Kaneshiro is just Eric Cartman with a knife, but at least Cartman is a little interesting

33:57 Dude my thoughts exactly you could just ‘“feel” the gay vibes from those two ships

33:57 door-kun, you truly are Worthy of my grace

S tier should’ve been renamed “the emperors ft Adachi”

The only sin is not having Koromaru in an SSSSS+ tier, because he is the bestest of boys.

6:02 Naoki's social link is AMAZING! Too bad nobody did it, because they're missing a great realistic story about grieving.

For one that was missing, how would you rank Haru's fiance? Personally, as a villain, I would put him in B tier because, next to Kamoshida, he was one of the other villains (despite him being basically a mini-boss) that I legitimately hated.

His love of Yusuke speaks to me so much

Poor Bebe... He is at least B Tier.

where would you place Philemon

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Fither: Inaba Captions: emo bob

Hey, another Yusuke fan like me!

Huh, Thin Lizzy, nice. I'm a fan of "The Sun Goes Down" when it comes to them personally, but "The Boys are Back in Town" is always enjoyable to listen to.

I have listened to this as background noise when I'm falling asleep multiple times and I am about to do so once again