exactly.

so answer since 7 years. sad to say but they hate you. :(

martincho8002 the atmos owner manual says half above and half below

I feel this is the eternal question for us women. I was raised in the religion that it shout sit exactly on thw hip bone, that is, having the bone right in the middle of the hip belt. In real life, however, hip belts just don't remain there (nothing to do with brands, I think). I have sort of wide hips and a narrow waist: it just slides up as I walk. I gave up years ago, and now I aim for *on top of* the bone from the outset. Side note: I've always been instructed by male mountaineers... bummer.

I'm late to the party, yet here's my two cents for anyone still reading for advice. Rest the belt where it feels most comfortable. For me, it's more natural to rest the pack on top of my hips; none of the weight is carried on my shoulders there. However, I have a bit of a lower tummy pouch from cysts and polyps (sorry for TMI) and I feel like it just squeezes even more of my gut down. So I settled and put it about 1/3 of the way. Lol, this way the belt snatches up my tummy and I just carry a little bit of weight on my shoulders.

+mark markovic where are u? they are all over Germany!

There everywhere in Denmark.

Lots of retailers in the UK too

Jon Copas Amazon, Ebay, ...

Find a good discussion group for backpacking. This is a good one -- caminodesantiago.me. Leave a post with your height and weight and ask what size backpack people have used who are your same size. The good packs -- Deuter and Osprey among others -- will be adjustable so you can fine-tune yours, as long as you get the right size to start with.

DeMar Southard people who are the exact same height and weight can and will have different torso sizes. Best way is always has been always will be measure your torso length how somebody help you with a soft tape measure and measure your torso length. Then when you go backpack shopping you look at what the Torso length is. Most all backpacks will state a torso fit range. Find one that has your torso range.

I am 164, 63 kilos, and i also feel that the hipbelt is a bit big, they show it is adjustable by pushing a part inside but when i try it it just does not move. Can i have someone help me please? From osprey customer service? I am very worried especially for my back. I even carried it with a lot less weight on a hike and it was so difficult. I just think i have not adjusted it correctly. if the hipbelt is adjustable and the torso... But i dont know what the issue is. Waiting for a kind reply

Mark Turner use a fabric measuring tape. It’s soft. You can find it at craft and sewing stores or sections at your local grocery store. It’s a few dollars.

I know my response is very late, however, I just got an Osprey pack and sized down. I had to hyper extend the back @3:31 about an inch from the last marking, but it fits great now! Unless you need the volume from the larger pack, I'd size down to cut weight.

Find an osprey proshop if you have one near you.

Joel Cedric Best to measure your torso to find out what is right for you. Plenty of Videos on KZfaq explaining how to have your torso measured. According to some trustworthy online websites: if your torso falls somewhere between 16-18.5" then you will need to go with the S/M size, and 18.5 and beyond then you'll need to go with the M/L size

It depends on the backpack and the length of your torso. Small for one pack may be a diff measurement than a small for another. Good luck!

Im 5’7” too 32 waist. My torso measured 18 inches. I could get either S/M or M/L

For the record I have that same pack, in a Large. I'm 6'3" and have a probably pretty long torso.

uctt24 REI

+Katie Hansen They didn't do that for me when I wanted it and asked for it yesterday. I don't think they know how.

That's odd. I had it done at two different ones so maybe you got a dud salesperson... Dunno.

I bought a Deuter at REI. The salesperson took all the time I needed to find the right pack and make sure it fit. For backpacks and boots especially, you need expert advice and someone who is willing to take whatever time is necessary to make sure you are buying the right equipment.

Not with me😢

Yes. REI takes the time to fit you. IF YOU ASK

They did with me

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Nathan Zaremskiy Not disappointed at pointlessness, how quaint

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Tomas Dolejs C7 vertebra

if on the trail and see this, just walk up to them and push face back so they feel comfortable.. always stop and push faces in on trail. I guarantee you will finish trail before you see the end, my friend. Happy Trails !!!

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