Fitting VW Beetle Aftermarket Fan Shroud and Tin and MST Serpentine Belt Kit Install.

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4 жыл бұрын

Today we will be addressing aftermarket tin for the aircooled Volkswagen engines and what to look for when trying to get them to fit. Once they are fitting better, we will be installing the alternator and MST serpentine belt system.
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@mcdanielsmotorwerks423 4 жыл бұрын

Nice job, If I have a stock fan shroud with heater flaps I have always wired them open here in FL when I lived out west in Oregon I made damn sure they operated properly. Many people will tell you they are always needed but..... Ive been doing it 30+ years and my engines last and don't have overheating issues. call me we can talk about the pro's and cons for hours! 🤣

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Volkswagen Fetish I agree, they have their place especially in colder climates. Here in FL, not so much imo. You and I can talk for hours about anything, one of the reasons I love you man.

@bedlamite42 2 жыл бұрын

Up here in the frozen tundra, I use a T handle choke cable for the flaps, and open them as soon as the oil temp comes up.

@kyridgejumper 3 ай бұрын

First video finding out it’s a 60 not a 58. And the camera died unexpectedly. Great video

@VWJawbreaker 3 ай бұрын

I was going off what I was told vs running the vin.

@HapticGarage 4 жыл бұрын

Great minds think alike! Thanks for the shoutout, it's always great to welcome new people. I like the aluminum you used to avoid messing up the chrome plating. And that torque spec... I've had some lug bolts that met that standard. Thanks again for the mentions- looking forward to the carb setup!

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Couldn’t believe I was in the process of debating recording it when you posted your video lol Hopefully you’ll get more subs and views though this.

@2GuysandaBug 4 жыл бұрын

I love the attention to detail. That is hard to do sometimes when you just want to get her back on the road. Nice work.

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

I agree! It’s easy to put stuff together and be done but I’m noticing more and more how things don’t fit together properly. All of these little things add up to better cooking for the engine.

@davemurton736 4 ай бұрын

Enjoyed that, not really into the shiny, and was always told ‘Chrome won’t get you Home’ 😂 but it looks OK 👍 hopefully you’ll do a carbs and linkage video 😊

@VWJawbreaker 4 ай бұрын

I’m glad you enjoyed the video. Doesn’t matter if it’s painted or chrome, if the shroud and the rest of the tins aren’t correct, you’ll run hotter. There is a video on the dual ITC carbs for this engine.

@Volkswagenplanet 4 жыл бұрын

Good ol aftermarket parts. Got to love them. Great video as always. I'm glad to see you have the drive to keep making videos. Keep up the great work. Take care and stay safe.

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Gotta love aftermarket stuff lol So far I’m still plugging along. Time will tell what happens. Stay safe buddy.

@Krasimir_BG 4 жыл бұрын

Can you make a video on how you install the Dual Carbs linkange and all !

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Krasimir Georgiev covering that next week! Stay tuned 👍

@Krasimir_BG 4 жыл бұрын

VWJAWBREAKER Thank you so Much !

@mileageunknown8910 4 жыл бұрын

Great info! I must admit I never paid that much attention to the shroud fitment details! I will moving forward for sure! Great vid as always!

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

It’s amazing how different the stock vs aftermarket stuff fits.... something always need to be tweaked somehow. Stay safe and healthy my friend.

@teonthevwwhisperer7316 4 жыл бұрын

Looks wicked can't wait to hear it roar with that exhaust it should sound awesome jawbreaker looks fantastic

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Hopefully it’ll crack off soon!

@VWRICH23 4 жыл бұрын

👍👍 it looks super sharp

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

@VeeDubP8 4 жыл бұрын

Clean build brother!! I think I may have had a set of flaps at one point in time... They were tied open with zip ties.... I got all new after 36hp style fan and shrouds... That was such a pain!! I did mine all black, it showed every slip, scratch graze & tool drop... Touch up paint fixed that!! Now all that hard work is covered in road grime & oil!! Keep up the great work brother!!

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

For those of us who drive our cars vs trailer them to shows, they do get dirty quickly! I appreciate you always being here buddy. Stay safe and healthy 👍

@greglogan73 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion.... I bought the dual 34 ICT'S, and I'm looking forward to using them, hopefully soon...

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Greg Logan stay tuned to next weeks video then! 😁

@Doubleodude 4 жыл бұрын

I saw the same video. He did a great job.

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

He’s amazing man, even in person. Super cool guy.

@RobStapleton 4 жыл бұрын

That bead roll on the fan shroud and the head tin not lining up would drive me crazy... I'd have to rebuild it. lol (I'm OCD like that 😁) Great job on making it work!

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Oh it’s driving me nuts but I don’t have your fab skills either lol

@deanrobinson3717 4 жыл бұрын

Gary, cracking job that. I love the shiny stuff, Noah says hi 👋

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Dean Robinson you can keep that shiny stuff, too much polishing for me 😂 Hi Noah! ✌️

@kevinhamling1963 4 жыл бұрын

Hey man Kevin here from Australia. Engine is looking amazingly shiny. Anyhoo stay safe and stay well. ✌ Peace

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

It’s too shiny for me 😂 Good to hear from you, hope you’re safe and well bud!

@bubot17 4 жыл бұрын

nice info on the aftermarket tins, i'm about to get one myself

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Make sure you check out Haptic garage’s video as well, he covers a lot more than I did.

@kevinhamling1963 4 жыл бұрын

@@VWJawbreaker i saw the Haptic video yesterday. He covered the topic of engine tins perfectly. ✌

@BeemerBob73 4 жыл бұрын

Another great video...I do think its time you released some swag though. I'd be down for a t shirt and sticker.

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I’ve been thinking the same lately regarding T-shirts, I have stickers just need to get more printed. Thanks for the feedback and helping pushing me the right direction.

@benkrom2737 Жыл бұрын

Old German mechanic told me those thermostats are only to heat engine and in winter and don't even work till temp is at 25⁰ outside. What happens is all the linkage gets dirty and gets stuck closed and engine overheats because flaps are stuck closed. Said take them out and never use and I live in New England. Never had a problem.

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

There’s definitely a lot of controversy on this topic. I’ve never had an issue either 🤷‍♂️

@KSFWG 4 жыл бұрын

That chrome shroud will sure look good splattered with oil and caked with dust a year from now... lol just kidding a bit with ya... Would like to see it a year or so from now. :) Looks nice though !!

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

KSFWG that’s why none of my engines have chrome.... or any chrome on the bug for that matter. Aaron said the black ones are on massive backorder so he got the chrome one for now. Once it fires up for the break in and I do a once over, change the oil and adjust the valves it’s his to keep clean.

@cringram1003 3 ай бұрын

Drill holes in your chrome lol. JB weld use your head not time your pie hole.

@VWJawbreaker 3 ай бұрын

Confused on what you’re even taking about…

@terryprevatt 4 жыл бұрын

Nice shirt!

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Terry Prevatt 😁 Gotta support my buddy’s!

@jimlester5003 4 жыл бұрын

Looks great Gary. I agree about the chrome. Been there. Drove me crazy. What carb kit are you going with? I'll be going to duals when the trike comes off the road when the snow flies. Your vid are always full of info, craziness and fun. Stay cool on those 4000 degree days. Enjoy, Jim

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jim! I’m still trying to find that balance of info and my personality and sarcasm.... I’ve honestly kept the sarcasm dialed back quite a bit lol This engine will have the dual 34 ICT’s on it. Next video we’ll go over setting them up, linkage, etc.

@jimlester5003 4 жыл бұрын

Can there ever be enough sarcasm? Looking forward to the carb setup video. Have a great weekend!

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Jim Lester that’s a great point but most people can’t handle my extreme sarcasm lol Take care buddy and engine your day.

@michaeltetzner5847 26 күн бұрын

Hi, Gary, again very nice and informative video ! At the moment, I am also battling with one of these aftermarket shrouds, same as your, just not chrome but plain black. Have the same issues as you with fitment, also had to trim it to get it to sit kind of properly... Have one question there though : you can trim the bottom of the shroud where it contacts the case, to get it to sit lower, but isn't how high or low the shroud sits, in the end determine by the alternator/fan assembly ? I worry that if I trim the shroud enough to get it to sit properly on the case and cylnider shrouds, the opening for the fan and the boltholes won't line up anymore.

@VWJawbreaker 26 күн бұрын

@@michaeltetzner5847 glad you enjoyed the video. You are correct, the fan will determine where the shroud sits. It’s best to mock things up as a complete assembly and go from there. You may need to trim the lower part that sits against the case of the alternator doesn’t sit flush with the stand. It’s trial and error.

@SladesVWBeetle 4 жыл бұрын

Aftermarket parts can be a pain. I found that out with a rear apron. 🙄 You did a great job working with it brother!!

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Most definitely! Thanks, I appreciate you brother!

@royworks28 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome motor,little to shiny for me. Definitely nice though

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

It should be a great runner. Too shiny for me too, but it’s what this guy wants.

@aaronchilds2568 4 жыл бұрын

I'm probably going to be painting the fan shroud with the tins I waited over a month for a black one that never shipped. So I just got the chrome one so I could get the motor done.

@Its_about_that_time Ай бұрын

Where did you get the fan shroud mine didn't come with an accelerator cable hole

@VWJawbreaker Ай бұрын

I don’t know where he bought this one from, sorry.

@VWLifeVW 4 жыл бұрын

those aftermarket ones can sometime take some extra time to make fit

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Have a few hours into those tins and it’s not perfect.

@toddmichaeljaniszewski 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I have a nightmare one I've been dealing with. I got so fed up that I pulled out one from a 72 and I'm going to clean it up and paint it and ditch the aftermarket one.

@VWLifeVW 4 жыл бұрын

@@toddmichaeljaniszewski that's usually a good call. Finding a nice clean straight original one is usually the way I go

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Toddmichael Janiszewski don’t blame you one bit!

@toddmichaeljaniszewski 4 жыл бұрын

@@VWLifeVW I've bought some complete old barely functional engines to have extra parts like this. I had never done the aftermarket 36HP style shrouds and since I wasn't running heat, I though I'd try one since they can have a clean look. But man, it was a nightmare from the moment I start fitting that. It all looked great during initial mock-up and such, but when it came to the real details of install it was just the one in the video, but I have far less skills (and patience) to deal with it.. i1.wp.com/zuczek1302.com/wp-content/uploads/2019_AS41_Build/Day16/AS41_Build_Day_16_8.jpg?resize=780%2C439&ssl=1

@jimmywilkinson9190 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Gary ! All or almost all the of the aftermarket stuff like the alt. pulley and the fan hub fall on ? I had a 63 bug when I was 15 and to get the gen pulley off I ended to have to barrow a puller to get that thing off. Now you ? about it at the parts house and their reply is = the key way hold it on . That is why they end up rattling the key way . What is a VW driver to do . I did find a German black pulley that I will need to beat it on the alt. shaft . but it was # 3 the chrome one and gold one I gave away---- trash

@VWJawbreaker 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah unfortunately most of the aftermarket stuff now days isn’t anywhere near as good as the original.... they produce quantity over quality. There are some good brands out there but they are far and few between.

@EmmettRacing 4 жыл бұрын

I need to pull the tins off my turbo motor now 😅😅

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Lol, doesn’t hurt to double check this aftermarket stuff!

@vintage76vipergreenBeetle 4 жыл бұрын

👍

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Vintage 76 vipergreen # Romeo hope things are well with you.

@christophersustayta5974 3 жыл бұрын

Is there a taller fan shroud to pull more cool air for the engines

@VWJawbreaker 3 жыл бұрын

They offer the stock fan shroud and then the 36hp shroud like this one.

@marck6703 2 жыл бұрын

Bernie Bergman fan shroud

@vintage76vipergreenBeetle 4 жыл бұрын

Scat fan shrouds, are better than Empi ones. I don't think they're on backorder either. Summit's sells them also.

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Vintage 76 vipergreen # Romeo good to know for the future. Thanks man 👍

@REVNUMANEWBERN 3 жыл бұрын

So when you wrenched it over that whiped off the assembly lube inside didn't it?

@VWJawbreaker 3 жыл бұрын

Do you mean when I turn the engine over by hand it wipes the assembly lube off? No, it does not.

@REVNUMANEWBERN 3 жыл бұрын

@@VWJawbreaker My spelling is skewed when sleepy LOL

@VWJawbreaker 3 жыл бұрын

@@REVNUMANEWBERN mine is always screwed lol

@robertdorr300 4 жыл бұрын

Was that a welded fan?

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Nope, just a new one. He’ll be fine with this being a just over stock engine.

@shawn9878 Жыл бұрын

Does the serpentine belt work as good as it looks ? Or stick with the V belt ? Nice work

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

It does work well, wears out less but imo it depends on the engine setup. Higher hp engines need a welded fan and a stock v belt setup.

@shawn9878 Жыл бұрын

@@VWJawbreaker iam building a 1776 mild Engle 100 cam for a beach buggy . Hope you guys are drying out down there

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

@@shawn9878 that’ll be a good easy runner. We faired very well compared to others!

@nealefrazer4247 4 жыл бұрын

36hp tins with doghouse will never obtain genuine because they were never made and Only option is aftermarket but some removal of metal for a snugg fit is required but rather have reasonable oil temps than the alternative..good post Jawbreaker ..

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Neale Frazer very well said and thank you!

@nealefrazer4247 4 жыл бұрын

@@VWJawbreaker No wuckers ya Floridian..

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

😂

@Misunderstoodboygenius 4 жыл бұрын

Hoover bit?

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

Misunderstoodboygenius he ordered it, just hasn’t come in yet. Going to break it in and then put it on when he removes the tins for paint.

@Misunderstoodboygenius 4 жыл бұрын

VWJAWBREAKER good! Didn’t want you to forget that :)

@VWJawbreaker 4 жыл бұрын

I appreciate you looking out for me!

@philipcable7518 2 жыл бұрын

Don't appologise for using rivets we use them plenty on aircraft.

@VWJawbreaker 2 жыл бұрын

That’s a great point! Although I’m sure the ones I used aren’t used on aircraft 😂

@TalonsNewAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

It’s pronounced ah-room-in-um…. Duh! 🤣 Was there any galvanic reaction over time between the aluminum piece and the fan cowling?

@VWJawbreaker 2 жыл бұрын

Haha! Nope, no corrosion that I’ve seen.

@groundup421 3 жыл бұрын

galvanic corrosion

@VWJawbreaker 3 жыл бұрын

Where at?

@groundup421 3 жыл бұрын

@@VWJawbreaker dissimilar metals in the shroud, ive always had problem when i use aluminum with steel. i like your videos im not that far from you in tampa.

@VWJawbreaker 3 жыл бұрын

@@groundup421 I’m familiar with what you’re talking about, have to really worry about that in marine world. I highly doubt there will be an issue in the fan shroud, but it’s a good point. Maybe we’ll run into each other at a show or something.