The Push For A Biden Replacement Becomes Real

The Push For A Biden Replacement Becomes Real | 538 Politics Podcast

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Ай бұрын

The ground has started to shift beneath President Joe Biden's feet. Between Tuesday and Wednesday, multiple Democratic lawmakers raised questions about his viability as a candidate in 2024 and weighed in on who might replace him should he step aside.
In this installment of the 538 Politics podcast, Galen Druke speaks with Senior Elections Analyst Geoffrey Skelley about the latest data on how voters are reacting to Biden's debate performance and what could happen next.
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@matthewbeat Ай бұрын

It's not his AGE. It's his cognitive abilities.

@TheMageesa Ай бұрын

Yeah, Bernie's 82 but still chuggin' along.

@ryrythefryguy4645 Ай бұрын

it is both.

@ADPalF 29 күн бұрын

It's both. Even a fit, active, and present eighty year old's health can landslide down within half a year at that age. Electing someone that old will always be a risk.

@irenafarm 29 күн бұрын

I think his brain is fine. I went back and looked at a bunch of public appearances from last year. Something physical happened in September. His entire manner changes. If you READ his speeches they are the same. If you WATCH his body language, he picked up that shuffling walk, vague gestures, and persistent cough. His voice gets raspy and uncertain sounding. October 8 is when Special Investigator Hur cornered Biden for that 7 hour long deposition. We may owe that dude an apology, btw. The way he presented his concerns was still unacceptable but he wasn’t wrong, it seems. He also focused incorrectly on cognitive function. Something is _physically_ burdening Biden and sapping his focus and energy. At least, that’s how it’s going to seem until Biden himself proves otherwise by getting out and doing multiple neutral or hostile interviews.

@bryanismyname7583 28 күн бұрын

If we're honest, Trump has trouble sometimes, too. Mixing up names and places, going off on tangents about sharks, etc. He didn't do that at the debate so much, likely due to the mic being shut off much of the time. So, it's not like Biden is the only one who has declined somewhat as he has aged. But that isn't getting reported as much, due to the way Biden came off in the debate.

@garychartier8365 Ай бұрын

"No one wanted to challenge Biden in the primaries." Except that we'll really never know if this was the case because the White House went to such trouble to make sure that challengers weren't allowed on the ballot or that primaries didn't take place at all.

@singed8853 Ай бұрын

Right. The whole process was essentially rigged and the dnc used its power to pressure candidates not to run.

@bernlin2000 Ай бұрын

And I thought the 2020 primary was a mess...at least it existed. And where are all those candidates at NOW? They were talking about Biden's age even then, but most of them seem pretty quiet now (besides Tulsi) on whether Biden is even less qualified due to his age...after all, age only goes in one direction.

@ChristmasLights2 Ай бұрын

RFK did.

@jayscott921 Ай бұрын

Biden hasn't pressured anyone not to run... There have actually been several Democratic nominees who have remained in the race until the last month... The majority of potential nominees, for example Gavin Newsom, stayed out of the Primary because they have faith in Biden's ability to do his job with the evidence of the job he's done... It's ridiculous, at this hour to demand he drop out. One reason being any future nominee won't be allowed on the ballot and you would have to write that nominee in... The only people screaming about Biden dropping out are, so called progressives and MAGA...

@jayscott921 Ай бұрын

@@ChristmasLights2 RFK did what? He hasn't been able to get on several ballots...

@marcbelisle5685 Ай бұрын

I get that the optics of going around Harris would be toxic. But “it’s her turn” is the kind of thinking that got us here. The purpose of a party is to elevate the best person to win elections, not to hold jobs for the person with the most power waiting in line the longest. The thinking at this point should be to find the person, who could be a total dark horse, who can win the national election by the largest margin by the end of the convention. And maybe that is Harris. But maybe it’s not.

@1237barca Ай бұрын

Let the republicans can pick the democrats candidate, they seem the only ones able to diagnose obvious dementia

@Ember-Rayne Ай бұрын

Black women will sit home en masse if they do that. Pretty sure of it based on my conversations.

@1237barca Ай бұрын

@@Ember-Rayne not an issue. We can ballot harvest. They don’t need to leave home. We can do a mass ground campaign and offer ppl some sort of incentive to sign off on the ballot we fill out for them

@TheKraken5360 Ай бұрын

@@Ember-RayneHere’s a crazy idea. Make the nominee Michelle Obama. I think she’s legitimately popular, and you wouldn’t piss off black women voters.

@carbonbomb4774 Ай бұрын

@Ember-Rayne black women don't move elections, white women do. Check who lives in the suburbs cause it's not black women.v

@rettif9 29 күн бұрын

Harris didn't do well in 2020. She is not the presumptive best choice. She was about to drop out when Biden offered her VP. An open convention would provide a national forum that would be well covered in all media. Let the delegates narrow the choice to 6-8 candidates, then give each one an hour to articulate their vision for the next term. In this time of instant communication I would think that polling could be implemented that would at least give the delegates a sense of the publics preferred choice. It doesn't have to be influence pedaling in back-room deals. Democrats don't need another Dukakis.

@atticusandwinifred3274 28 күн бұрын

I think Kamala would do great, she’s grown a lot in the past 4 years, but I think the best road is for her to become the president now then have an open convention and let the delegates chose a candidate. It’ll most likely be her but at least there will be some sort of primary election. .

@greenluxi 28 күн бұрын

@@atticusandwinifred3274Kamala is toxically connected to all of Biden’s worst policies and she’s unable to pull the working class black vote back. She’s seen as unlikable even in her own community, I’m black and a woman and talk about this all the time with other black women. Most black voters are singularly occupy with the goal of keeping Trump out. Our community has no emotional attachment to Kamala, the only way it becomes a problem is if the media makes it one. She can be easily replaced in the context of black voters. The same dem pundits telling you this would be a big deal are the same ones that don’t understand why the dem party has been bleeding black support up to this point. They don’t understand the community, so don’t listen to them, go right to black voters poll them on how much they care about dropping Kamala, I bet most won’t care if it means Trump is out.

@superspartan999 28 күн бұрын

Most compelling reasons I’ve seen to support a Harris presidency is that a) she’s the only one who can legally access the campaign funds that were raised for the Biden Harris ticket and b) the contrast of running a felon against a prosecutor would make ad writing and debates SO easy. Otherwise yeah - she’s not super exciting, and I disagree with her on a lot of issues. But she’s with it, young enough, competent, and experienced. The bar is in hell… and she at least clears it I guess haha

@Listman11 28 күн бұрын

The Democrats made their bed. Now they have to pay the price.

@rossgoldberg5201 26 күн бұрын

The far-right and the far-left made their bed. Now they have to pay the price.

@07Flash11MRC 26 күн бұрын

@@rossgoldberg5201 What "far left"? Lmao, you clearly have no knowledge about politics.

@ImaTroper 26 күн бұрын

@@rossgoldberg5201lmao bothsideium grade cope

@anem0nia Ай бұрын

Open convention would hype leople up it would be chaotic in a good way

@rachels.8051 Ай бұрын

Is that even possible if they want to be on the ballot in Ohio though?

@neillogan8540 Ай бұрын

@@rachels.8051to be fair, no democrat is winning Ohio anyways

@rachels.8051 Ай бұрын

@@neillogan8540 I’m from Indiana and the hatred for Donald Trump is enough that I think introducing almost literally ANY other option has a fair shot of working.

@irenafarm 29 күн бұрын

Even just transferring the nomination to a newly sworn in Madam President Harris would be hype as hell.

@olnbgy4444 29 күн бұрын

It would take attention off trump and his campaign , that will be good .

@alandworsky8926 Ай бұрын

It cannot be Harris. She is not compelling as a candidate.

@Enderwaveslay Ай бұрын

You must be referring to Mr Trump for sure!😊

@jakefrost8017 29 күн бұрын

A Woman of Color isn't? Is it 2024 or the 1800's?! 😫

@naomieyles210 29 күн бұрын

Kamala Harris was previously District Attorney and Attorney General, seems like a perfect person to take on Trump.

@Jmamelia 29 күн бұрын

@@naomieyles210she was unpopular in California as attorney general and as senator. I lived there. She also was not elected. She was chosen by Biden after he put his foot in his mouth and pledged to a point of black woman as his running mate. JFC...

@irenafarm 29 күн бұрын

Look, we’re going to vote for anyone but Trump. If Trump’s opponent is a listeria-laced ham sandwich, the ham sandwich will win. If we insist that Biden stay in, it will be President Harris anyway within a few months. The thing that Biden’s battling seems to be PHYSICAL. I fear he’ll experience a severe fall or stroke out right in public if he keeps trying to push himself. Something happened in September. It’s getting worse. It’s fine. This is something we expected when we elected the 78 year old guy. Harris is fine. If Biden passes the torch, she can ride the “First Woman President” hype all the way through a victory in November. We don’t have to cling to a failing old man. We don’t have to elect a spoiled ham sandwich. Kamala is right there.

@stt5v2002 Ай бұрын

Given that the debate was the most shocking political earthquake of my lifetime (age 50), I think you should not consider polls before that.

@rickbrenner6079 Ай бұрын

I’m 50 yrs old, too, and feel the same. While Biden has exhibited (on camera) multiple incidences presenting with symptoms of dementia over the last two years, this debate was different from those previous incidences. Those other times could be “spun” as Biden just having a “senior moment” because they, generally, were brief camera shots. The debate, however, was the first time Biden’s dementia was fully showcased in all of its cringe ugliness, as that split-screen camera was on Biden every second of that whole debate, and viewed by millions of Americans either live on TV or on KZfaq the next day. When we think of a politician having “a bad debate performance” we tend to think of a candidate who is simply not arguing their points very well, not having any slick remarks or memorable “comebacks”, and not articulating their opponent’s weaknesses very well. We typically DON’T think of “a bad debate performance” as being incapable of completing a coherent sentence, spewing responses that devolve into gibberish, while exhibiting a thousand yard stare whenever it’s their opponents turn to answer questions. This wasn’t “a bad debate performance”. It was “a debate performance by a bad candidate.”

@1eastked Ай бұрын

Dude this guy was dead in 2020 look at the reporting and what other democrats were saying at the time! Democrats have screwed with every nominee since Obama wake up

@lindsayg4296 Ай бұрын

@@rickbrenner6079 Well said. Biden's thousand yard stare and bizarre mental behavior was a disgrace. It's sad because mental decline isn't funny but the leader of the free world so at least be able to make a coherent sentence without reading off a teleprompter.... unreal.

@royzlatanestevez9843 29 күн бұрын

@@rickbrenner6079 Absolutely this. This was not a "bad debate performance". It was a whole different game, a whole different universe, at which it was bad.

@bryanismyname7583 28 күн бұрын

@@rickbrenner6079 : People have seen this differently over the last couple of years. I have seen him in multiple settings giving clear and energetic speeches and doing a lot of events with the unions and meetings that are available readily to watch on KZfaq, unedited. In those events he has been absolutely fine. Many of them have been long events, too. If you pay attention to those, you see a competent, capable person who may cough a little or fumble a word or so trying not to stutter. But otherwise, fine. The debate performance was a very different thing entirely. That was more halting and fumbling than I have ever seen from him. And then after the debate, he was back to doing energetic events again. So, a person who has paid close attention can legitimately see the debate as a "bad night" but also see that Biden isn't in a state of dementia. Opponents have been saying he has dementia since 2019. I don't think it's dementia, but I do think there's something going on there on some level.

@brianmulholland2467 Ай бұрын

The idea that you can't bypass Harris because she's a black woman is ridiculous. She's terrible. Everyone knows she's terrible. Just pick someone who will appeal to independents and light -red Republicans because Trump can't win if you give those groups a serious alternative. It doesn't have to be a big name person. Jared Polis of Colorado would be perfect. He would absolutely dominate the political center. But Klobuchar or Whitmer would be fine. Once the person is in the race and are big news, they'll go from unknown to very well known in a heartbeat. You don't even need the war chest. The sheer newsworthiness of it will make that person famous. Harris would be a better choice than Biden...but not by much because everyone knows she's terrible. So pick someone not terrible. That's how low the bar is in this race. You can be a C- pick and dominate this race.

@dmcmac9619 Ай бұрын

She not black. She's east indian

@kb_100 Ай бұрын

You can be certain that Democratic elites will choose the option that makes beating Trump as difficult as possible.

@VincentFulco Ай бұрын

it would be the death of identity politics if they went around her. best thing to happen in years

@josephfilm73 29 күн бұрын

The idea is to let Biden decide. He stays in, there is nothing they can do. For now, he has said he will not go and that's the end of it.

@Pasta_Pirate 29 күн бұрын

100% I strongly believe Michigan Governor Gretch Whitmer is the democrats best chance she is slightly less known than Newsom or Kamala but has a better track record and is loved by her state. The name recognition isn't really consequential as after she's selected she'll instantly get more than enough, you just need someone to put on the platform that appeals and neither Kamala or Gavin seem likely to do so, in comparison someone who is likely to actually appeal to most the country after she gets some airtime sounds like a god-send. In betting markets she's already just after kamala and has great polling with people that know of her.

@MrClark46902 Ай бұрын

The problem with someone close to Biden is that she is going to be asked over and over about when she knew Biden was in such bad shape. An outside Governor can claim he didn't know either

@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md Ай бұрын

Good point. I think Newsom is the most viable. He's ready and able.

@MrClark46902 Ай бұрын

@@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md you are probably correct

@insiderinside1905 Ай бұрын

no they have no good options. it has to be kamala because otherwise all the money has to go back to the donors. and they have to act in warp speed because there are various state ballot deadlines. if they miss that deadline NO democrat will be on the OHIO ballot (for example). And the “luminaries” at the View have said you can’t just throw over kamala for a white male like gavin. but on the other hand kamala is a nit wit. she dropped out with no support and because she got into politics on her back. she’s the border czar? how good is the border these days? The democratic machine/cnn/msnbc are badly damage for being biden shills. can that machine lie enough to pull kanala over the finish line? if america lets them do that again maybe they deserve a haris presidency. but harris proved that michelle obama could strep in and not have to do anything anyway. so maybe harris/obama could work.

@bryanismyname7583 Ай бұрын

I don't think so. Reporting has shown that for most of the time, Biden is fine and in good shape every day. I would not be surprised if Harris and others were blindsided by his debate performance. I have seen Biden in many events, several interviews and the like over the last year where he is perfectly fine. And I have little reason to believe that Biden has the kind of seeming meltdown that he had at the debate very often. So, I don't think anyone could blame Harris for asking Biden to step down, which is presumably where you're going with that line of thinking.

@ADPalF 29 күн бұрын

@@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md He really isn't a strong choice in an electoral college. Middle America won't want a smug coastal elite governor from a state that cable news has been painting the main cities in a terrible light for years now. Californians might not realize it, but much of the country has a very negative opinion of them and that negativity is not just from republicans.

@bryanismyname7583 Ай бұрын

Having the podcast about the British election is ironic for the Fourth of July, isn't it?

@rafstrayhorn5772 Ай бұрын

Only if you think America is the center of the universe

@dwaynepeters4520 Ай бұрын

@@rafstrayhorn5772 Or if you think America fought a war of independence against Britain that's celebrated on the Fourth of July

@nomadpurple6154 Ай бұрын

A pre-recorded one doesn't make sense, since by around 1am GMT (5pm Pacific) the outcome will likely be known.

@thebclpoonilli3098 29 күн бұрын

@@rafstrayhorn5772 only 50% of it, the other center is across the multiverse in a danny deveto clone made for an amusement park game.

@ghostridersinthesky21 29 күн бұрын

@@rafstrayhorn5772This guy doesn’t know American history. The joke went straight over his head

@ollywright Ай бұрын

Within 10 minutes of the debate starting it was abundantly clear that Biden would not remain the candidate. Everything since is people catching up with that reality.

@zed739 Ай бұрын

It was actually completely clear four years ago, they just ignored it and pushed an incompetent old man into the office anyway. It was better than the alternative incompetent old man because the alternative incompetent old man brags about his bigotry and greed instead of hiding it. And, is orange

@abbottmd Ай бұрын

Drudge has already removed all Biden headlines, and it is all Kamala now.

@peterrobinson1041 Ай бұрын

not for sure borh reagan and truman had extreme issues

@JR-pr8jb Ай бұрын

"Abundantly clear" means "I'm all in for MAGA."

@rickyspanish4792 Ай бұрын

Yep. Basically within 10 seconds, I'd say. Big oof..

@Zenny1220 Ай бұрын

This is bigger than Joe Biden’s ego. Step aside sir.

@jazzyg5831 Ай бұрын

PROJECT 2025 & its consequences are of far greater concern "than Joe Biden’s ego." VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO IS RUNNING.

@1237barca Ай бұрын

Nothing is bigger than joes ego. I’m super impressed republicans somehow knew he had dementia back in 2020, even though there were no obvious signs

@patricaowens Ай бұрын

@@1237barcaGO BACK AND LOOK AT HIM.

@patricaowens Ай бұрын

@@1237barcaWe saw him,take a look and you’ll see it too.

@1237barca Ай бұрын

@@patricaowens there were no signs. He got the most votes in history. Nobody could have known. Except republicans. Must be evil Christian magic.

@CBT5777 Ай бұрын

We beat Medicare.

@graemethompson6705 Ай бұрын

I'm in the U.K, and I'm wondering whether you guys are messing up your elections, more than I'm thinking about mine.

@stephaniewoods6797 Ай бұрын

Britian is a mess too and the people don't deserve what is happening. I hope cooler heads prevail and I know Joe Biden will be back in the White House.

@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md Ай бұрын

Let's see if we can swap-out ol' comatose Joe for somebody fresher. Good luck on your election and I hope the Labour Party drops it's militarist stance.

@graemethompson6705 29 күн бұрын

@@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md Thanks buddy, hope you have a great 4th July, and celebrate the USA never having to have a king who is above the law!

@sharinaross1865 29 күн бұрын

Are you a native or immigrant

@TheMancYank 29 күн бұрын

Labor or Labour suck dude. Don’t do it.

@shaunrobson4278 29 күн бұрын

Is it possible that White House Press Secretary, Karine Jean-Pierre, is channelling the Michael Palin part in Monty Python's "Dead Parrot Sketch" ?

@irenafarm 29 күн бұрын

When she put her head down on the podium I thought, “Oh dear me. It’s Joever.” 😂

@traviscutler9912 29 күн бұрын

The Public: we don't want Biden, we never really did Kamala: Hold my beer.........

@fighterck6241 Ай бұрын

21:15 We're in the social media era, and nothing is the way it used to be. The drama of an open convention could be just what the Dems need to take the attention of the nation and focus it on the issues that they want to focua on. I believe that, if done well, it could draw the attention of the voters who haven't been paying attention and finally get some momentum behind their chosen candidate. The Republicans have been doing unconventional things for well over a decade now, and it has gained them immerse power despite only winning the popular vote once. It's time we take risks and not just try to orchestrate the safest route. And I think that the delegates would most likely end up choosing Harris anyway. The delegates are all very engaged with politics and the risks involved with choosing someone other than Harris. They know about the campaign finance rules. They understand the optics of teying to push aside Harris. And most will want the continuity of keeping Biden's VP and chosen successor. So letting an open convention play out has little risk of a surprise outcome in reality unless some contender decides to make it contentious which would likely hurt their own prospects in the future. I think that he would come out of the convention with a headwind that just handing her the nomination would not give her. The biggest thing is that they cannot be caught, again, trying to put their thumbs on the scale. They need to at least trust the delegatea in a manner that they've failed to truat thw voters in their own party in 2016. This could be the reset that they need to change their narrative. Many people are of a mind to oppose Trump once again. They just need a reason to believe that it will be worthwhile.

@TheMageesa Ай бұрын

This is such good reasoning, I doubt the DNC would do it. But I'd love to be surprised! Make Raskin the nominee and it's *chefs kiss*

@ooogyman 29 күн бұрын

Thank you for writing this! All this talk about "it's too late" is using logic from the 1960's. We live in a social media world, you can generate national name recognition in a week. Once the presumptive Democratic nominee makes their keynote at the DNC and stays in the news cycle until Election Day, name recognition will be a non-issue.

@Pasta_Pirate 29 күн бұрын

@@TheMageesa Raskin seems very unlikely, whats your opinion on Gretchen Whitmer she is on all the betting sites the 5th most likely option after Newsom, Biden, Harris & Michelle and seems like a genuinely competent likeable candidate, it would also likely play better than skipping Harris for a man among women. How I see it Gavin is too easily attacked as many believe he's made a mess of california, Michelle genuinely doesnt want to run for president, and Harris just has failed to become likeable and has very little upside potential. Hence imho Whitmer makes the most sense but I'm curious what others think

@Jmamelia 29 күн бұрын

@@Pasta_Pirate💯

@steveyoung9687 Ай бұрын

You forgot the video again?

@IanZainea1990 Ай бұрын

Probably cost

@gene4094 Ай бұрын

Thank you for the polls, as we desperately need to see where the Biden’s awful performance affects the next election.

@bubblebobble9654 29 күн бұрын

My money is a decision by next Wednesday. They can't do it over the long weekend but need to have it wrapped up to recover the story line before the end of next week's news cycle

@irenafarm 29 күн бұрын

Next Friday will be two weeks since the debate. It will be after the NATO summit in DC next week. I’m honestly really nervous about Biden’s ability to negotiate as needed to keep the NATO partners engaged and reassured that the US isn’t going to be run by a madman by this time next year.

@victordennett Ай бұрын

Chaos is a ladder, Galen.

@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md Ай бұрын

Which means?

@victordennett Ай бұрын

@@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md LOL It's a Game of Thrones reference to Galen saying chaos might be good!

@kb_100 Ай бұрын

Littlefinger lives!

@patrickday4206 Ай бұрын

We finally beat Medicare time to bring our troops home and corn pop. It's like watching people run for president of the retirement association.

@HokieD1993 Ай бұрын

😂

@emc1784 Ай бұрын

😅

@keithbennett4004 Ай бұрын

Hilarious!

@Lou_Mansfield Ай бұрын

the best part was their debating their golf handicaps. because voters really needed to know that before filing in their ballot

@jazzyg5831 Ай бұрын

Hey Patrick, why don't you run? Let's see if you can do what Joe did in 3.5 yrs to bring us out of a pandemic, increase jobs, lower unemployment; Chips Act, got the drug companies to negotiate with Medicare to lower the cost of insulin to $35/per month, supported & walked with the united auto workers and the package they negotiated with the companies they work for, only promises to increase taxes on those making more than 450K a year. VS. the beast who accomplished 0 in four years except giving the richest ppl in our country a 2 trillion $ tax break.

@jackm4457 Ай бұрын

Predicting anything or even trying to make odds is impossible. We're dealing with something that is unprecedented. Speculatioin is irrelevant since the decision to run or not is up to one man alone. The closest parallel in my lifetime is when Sen Thomas Eagleton was removed from the ticket in 1972, and that is not even 1% in significance to this. There's nothing to do but enjoy the summer ....thinking about it is so effin' depressing.

@clownhands Ай бұрын

Ms Harris has to interview for the promotion. There will be outside candidates. Welcome to the major leagues

@irenafarm 29 күн бұрын

She did a whole presidential campaign, as well as already competing against most of those folks in 2020. If Biden resigns, Kamala is President. That’s what the Constitution says. As far as the nomination, she’s already been nominated on the ticket with Biden. On top of that, in November, she’ll have been President for four months. If the Democrats say, “Okay we elected Kamala as second in command and she’s President now but we made a mistake so please America can you vote for this other candidate who isn’t President? Also it seems weird to see people announce rules out of the blue like y’all can manifest changes to the Constitution.

@LM-47 Ай бұрын

No to Harris! No! No! No!!!!

@irenafarm 29 күн бұрын

Why? If the only choice against Trump is a literal moldy turnip, I’m picking the turnip. I wouldn’t even hesitate. Vice President Harris has been part of an extremely effective governance team for over three years. That’s not nothing. She’s also got a pleasant yet forceful presence and a solid grip on policy. And, she’s not 158 years old. I will freely admit that she’s somewhat of a disaster as a speaker unless she’s on a favorite topic. That’s not ideal but _gesturing at our current President who has a speech impediment._ Is she weird? Yep. Neurodivergent people are part of society and it’s time that people accepted that there’s different ways to think and communicate. Two of the other people who are often named as future POTUS candidates are also neurospicy.

@LM-47 28 күн бұрын

@@irenafarm I didn't say I would vote for Trump over her. But she doesn't have 'it'. Meaning she has zero charisma

@jonsmith6331 28 күн бұрын

Ah yes “we are only good at predicting things if they are predicable” is basically what these guys say. “Predictions work when there is historical precedent”. It’s too bad that significant historical events are fundamentally unpredictable. 2024 people still don’t get Taleb.

@MrTripleAgamer 23 күн бұрын

Will the (anti)racists keep to their values even if it looks like they will lose? Or will they face facts that character, experience, and skill matter when facing reality? The DEI question facing many organizations right now.

@numbersindia5312 Ай бұрын

Harris is extremely unpopular, she will lose easily

@kb_100 Ай бұрын

I cannot imagine crowds getting excited about Kamala Harris.

@user-uj6tc4pj1x 29 күн бұрын

Maybe you're right, but she polls better than everyone else. Personal feelings aren't as great a guide to popularity as polls. That said, you might see changes if events put her into debates with some of these alternatives, or even Trump's VP nominee. If she knocked his block off, more might approve a bout with Trump.

@naomieyles210 29 күн бұрын

@@kb_100 I cannot imagine crowds being excited about two old men who want to be POTUS in their 80s.

@irenafarm 29 күн бұрын

Y’all greatly underestimate the hype that the first Madam President would create. Americans are novophilates to an extreme. The newest thing is always the best thing. They’d hesitate over electing a female President for the first time, but they’ll be delighted to discover that it’s happening without their having to take responsibility for the decision. That’s assuming that Biden resigns as well as handing off his delegates to Kamala. Don’t forget that around 60% of voters are completely disengaged. If Biden resigns, a whole lot of Americans will say, “Oh! Well, I guess he’s old. Oh, that means we have a female President now! That’s nice.” Then they’ll completely forget by next week. In late October, those folks will be surprised that it’s an election year, and look at their choices. “Trump? Wtf, I thought he was in jail after Jan 6! Okay who’s the other one? “Oh! That’s right, Biden retired and we got a woman President. “Seems like everything is fine. I’m not voting for the guy in jail! Seriously wtf Republicans?”

@suzanne6441 28 күн бұрын

He may as well stay in if it has to be Harris. Here we could turn this nightmare into opportunity but we will throw it away again because of people feeling it's about them personally. I'm a woman, I want a woman to be president but I wouldn't stay home instead of voting for man. I voted for Obama instead of Hillary because I felt he was the better candidate - because it's bigger than a person's skin color and genitals for Pete's sake. Women won't have a right left if Trump wins. We might not be able to vote again.

@dfdla Ай бұрын

According to your model it is a 50/50 race on July 3. Yeah, right. Nate Silver has it 65/35 favoring Trump. Who is right?

@JackAShepherd 28 күн бұрын

You are not aware that this, 538, *is* Nate Silver...??? And that you appear to've made up these statistics?

@kane_lives 28 күн бұрын

@@JackAShepherd Silver left 538 over a year ago in May 2023.

@dfdla 28 күн бұрын

@@JackAShepherd You are not aware that 538 website was sold to ABC News in April 2023 and Nate Silver left the site?

@doubtingT911 28 күн бұрын

Stay calm. Biden is “sharp as attack”.

@mrp1326 29 күн бұрын

From the excitement in all the media outlets looks like democratic primaries are already taking place, but not in public. We will just learn about the end results.

@GoofusPlays Ай бұрын

Trump up 6 points in the latest NYTimes/Siena LV poll... it's joever

@christopherjohn9869 Ай бұрын

Yes and Hillary had a 77 percent chance of defeating Trump in 2016 on election day according to polls compiled by the 538. Polls are Bull$%&T

@cryptjoi9194 Ай бұрын

😂🤣

@HokieD1993 Ай бұрын

NY Times? Uhhh

@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md Ай бұрын

Not if the Democratic party pulls this off. They jettison Joe and they get all their 2020 votes back.

@BOLDBANGER Ай бұрын

@@HokieD1993 and pretty much every other poll. how's that echo chamber?

@GoofusPlays Ай бұрын

Wall Street Journal poll JUST came out also showing Trump up 6 points.

@GoofusPlays Ай бұрын

So much for the NYTimes poll being an outlier...

@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md Ай бұрын

Just wait until we get our new nominee. It's going to be 2020 all over again.

@JR-pr8jb Ай бұрын

What would you expect from Murdoch?

@bernlin2000 Ай бұрын

@@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md Lol...if it's Harris (which is almost guaranteed to be the case, unless she's willing to cut a deal to step down, along with Biden) than it will be a lot closer to 2016 than 2020...which means whatever woman they try to throw at Trump will be chewed up again lol. I think Biden's win in 2020 proved that Hillary wasn't totally wrong...there is definitely a streak of sexism in the US, even in 2024. Harris is definitely inferior to Hillary, so I don't see her taking off at all.

@Jmamelia 29 күн бұрын

And that blends the MUCH BIGGER leads in SWING STATES!

@PastorChrisRN 28 күн бұрын

Biden could be his own October Surprise if he has a likely but unexpected medical event closer to the election.

@jbailey1435 Ай бұрын

If Biden steps down then his replacement has to go through the same ordeals that any nominee has to go through.

@HokieD1993 Ай бұрын

Yep, so Kamala maybe steps in for optics, but the convention elects the actual nominee

@Charles-Darwin Ай бұрын

For only 4 months. You might then say "buht the campaign monies", I would say that doesn't matter either bc why do you need all of it for just 4 months? you need 1/64th that amount for that timeframe. If they put a formidable and inspiring candidate up, then you would already have the majority appeal (no, not cringy, dnc stooge Kamala)

@user-xu6bv7yh2j Ай бұрын

@@HokieD1993 Not is he resigns - then Harris is sworn in as POTUS

@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md Ай бұрын

You mean AIPAC approval?

@bryanismyname7583 Ай бұрын

There is a process in the bylaws of the party if a nominee doesn't accept. Redoing the primary process is not an option, because that literally takes months to do. Even if you said we should have every state do a primary on the exact same day to choose a new nominee, a lot of planning has to happen, and it would be very expensive to do that, too. Every state would have to make new ballots and hire staff to oversee everything. It's just not practical. Biden won most of the delegates and should be able to voluntarily release them with the endorsement of his VP to take his place. That's the simplest way to do it, and really the fairest way. The voters chose the Biden/Harris ticket and this way the ticket moves forward but without Biden.

@worldadventuretravel Ай бұрын

*We could be in the 7th year of a Bernie Sanders administration but American voters are so uninformed here we are instead.*

@1ll1c1t Ай бұрын

It was the democrats that passed over Bernie.. They screwed him over at every chance. Two elections in a row they did that. So this will make three election cycles where something shady happened when it comes to the democrat primary.

@doesntno 29 күн бұрын

Not only that but the dnc actively sabotaged his campaign twice.

@frisbeedan8905 29 күн бұрын

Imagine how much better of a world we would be living in

@bobburrows992 28 күн бұрын

Bernie would have been a disaster!

@1ll1c1t 28 күн бұрын

@@bobburrows992 we pretty much got bernie

@geoffgjof Ай бұрын

Timing has nothing to do with it. It's all about the money. If Biden drops out, and she doesn't replace him, all the donor money isn't able to be used for whoever else becomes the nominee. 😂

@jayscott921 Ай бұрын

The next nominee wouldn't be on the ballot in many states... The idea of a replacement is ridiculous on so many counts...

@twentyarms Ай бұрын

It makes it more complicated, but far from impossible. Either democrats believe our democracy hinges on this election, or they don't. Running such a weak candidate as Biden would suggest that they do not in fact believe this. Full disclosure: I'm to the Left of the Democratic party. I wouldn't vote for Joe Biden due to the horrors of Gaza, but I could be convinced to vote for a different candidate

@jeremyjackson7429 Ай бұрын

Timing does have something to do with this. The potato should have dropped out a year ago . . . then we wouldn't be stuck with Kamala as the only alternative.

@user-xu6bv7yh2j Ай бұрын

He resigns - Harris is sworn in as POTUS - she picks Obama as VP - they win

@fighterck6241 Ай бұрын

@@user-xu6bv7yh2jDo you seriously think that that would work in the social media era?

@earlaustin6025 28 күн бұрын

Marshmallows orange marshmallows lmao😅😅😅😅

@AH-ml4vi 28 күн бұрын

Chaos? Could they not have a healthy level headed debate and show to American people how a healthy democracy can perform. This could be achieved simply by candidates treating each other with respect and excepting defeat with respect. Show American Democrats are a party of intelligent reasonable people, not individuals fighting against each other.

@juno-6 Ай бұрын

Couldn't they have like....figured this out NOT SO CLOSE TO THE ELECTION?

@livenhfree Ай бұрын

Sure. But let's not get greedy.

@Brian-ro7st Ай бұрын

They’ve known for years. They’d hoped they could hide it.

@1ll1c1t Ай бұрын

The thought the dumb people (us in their eyes) wouldn't figure out they were lying so that the unelected people could continue running the white house.

@malirk Ай бұрын

@@Brian-ro7st Biden hasn't been like this for years. He had issues in 2020 but there has been a big decline.

@1ll1c1t Ай бұрын

Ill try again... They thought the dumb people (us in their eyes) wouldn't figure out they were lying about joe being non compos mentis which would allow the unelected people could continue running the white house. Deleting this doesn't change the fact that its true

@tjtj7161 29 күн бұрын

I'm for a replacement. Democrats need to take chances at this point, they have nothing to lose. I keep seeing polls that others would lose too, but I think those polls don't consider the American public getting to know that new person and how much a different Vice President could excite the base.

@irenafarm 29 күн бұрын

Also there’s a huge swathe of voters who are checked out entirely, and the President resigning would capture the public attention for days and days. Retiring for health reasons would generate tons of sympathy and people will be super hype over the novelty of being able to say Madam President for the first time.

@kristenquade7507 28 күн бұрын

Can there be a poll that captures people who, after the debate, have decided now not to vote for either candidate? There might be many who, in good conscience, won’t vote for Trump but also just can’t vote for Biden (due to feeling like it’s elder abuse to do so).

@clifftanch Ай бұрын

My question is why did 538 decide on the mean, and not, say, the median?

@AlAndalusiIbnRagnar Ай бұрын

That is why they are supposed to host a Democratic debate and have others run against Joe Biden as democrats just in case if the first option fails. Common sense, plus why is everybody afraid to run against the guy ? Where are the Democrats that can say they can do better ?

@user-xu6bv7yh2j Ай бұрын

They are waiting for Biden to step aside

@HokieD1993 Ай бұрын

Good question. It's pretty obvious now he would have been defeated in a dem primary. So protecting him hurts the party

@K-OnTheCase Ай бұрын

@@AlAndalusiIbnRagnar all the Democrats $$$ is pledged to Joe, so he controls the war chest. He would have to give it up or pass it on. (if he even has the ability to do this?) He’s not going to go quietly into the “good night”

@JR-pr8jb Ай бұрын

Yes, which other Dem superstar saved us from the greatest danger of all time, then went on to be a great first-term President despite no support from non-voting so-called progressives? I'm very happy with Biden, and Kamala as his successor.

@rickyspanish4792 Ай бұрын

@@JR-pr8jb to be fair, Trump was so unpopular that a carton of milk would have won that one; and yes, Biden has been a great president, but considering his decline, he's not realistically going to pull this off again.

@markpenfield5314 Ай бұрын

Are you kidding. Clyburn okaying a mini primary. Give us a chance to vote for a human with real old school democratic feel. Blue landslide, I say go for it. Harris Whitmer Besher etc etc etc

@europa_bambaataa 29 күн бұрын

It's weird how many people will say this on a voice only podcast

@RavenousFallen 29 күн бұрын

If it's one of the original candidates before Biden stepped in like Elizabeth Warren or Andrew Yang then I would support a replacement.

@michaelhenneman5600 Ай бұрын

I think Biden should step aside, it would be unfortunate for Biden to resign, though he should, the unfortunate side effect from that is Harris would be the first woman president, I personally don't think she's qualified or up to the job! There are far more qualified women out there that should carry that torch!!!

@user-xu6bv7yh2j Ай бұрын

Having a first woman POTUS is a huge deal - even if its jst for 3 months - the ceiling will be shattered

@jakefrost8017 29 күн бұрын

If Joe can let Kamala have that title. It would ruin the Trump hats with 47 on them! 😂

@irenafarm 29 күн бұрын

@@jakefrost8017HAHAHAHA OMG YOU’RE RIGHT. I think people vastly underestimate the potential hype generated by the first Madam President. As far as qualifications? Biden’s team has been mentoring her for 3 years. She was a Senator before that. We survived Trump’s toxic incompetence. We can survive someone with good intentions who actually has WAY more governance experience than Obama did.

@troar237 Ай бұрын

It was real two years ago, stop pretending you know better

@parthhanda7618 Ай бұрын

Where is the video?

@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md Ай бұрын

Who needs a video? Was he showing charts, graphs and other visual displays?

@Giantcrabz 29 күн бұрын

WE TOLD YOU SO

@jderoma4382 Ай бұрын

The other issue is campaign financing. I believe only Kamala would be able to access current funds. Otherwise it would mean starting from scratch. I believe that is the biggest practical reason she will be the nominee. I also agree about the significant discord within the Dem Party if she isn't chosen. With regard to the effect of chaos, Republicans handle it much better than Dems. I think chaos would be more deleterious for Dems. Look no further than the Gaza issue or trans rights.

@user-xu6bv7yh2j Ай бұрын

If Silicon Valley opens wallets for Newsom - it would be ok - best case scenario is this - Biden resigns, Harris is sworn in as POTUS - she picks Obama (either one) as her VP - open convention - she wins all the delegates - beats Trump, makes history, saves AMerica

@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md Ай бұрын

Your points about Harris are good ones, but it's iffy. If they can manage to retain the funding, and spin the optics, they might realize there are more viable options than Harris. A hard and clumsy decision, but it depends on if they are playing to win. If Harris is nominated, Democratic poll numbers automatically go up 5% points.

@user-xu6bv7yh2j Ай бұрын

@@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md If Biden makes Harris POTUS - then have an open convention - if Newsom or someone else wins more delegates then her - then so be it - but the Dems will still have the first woman POTUS even if it's only for 3 months - still history making - also, if Harris picks one of the Obamas then its over - we win!

@fighterck6241 Ай бұрын

That's because conservatives are focused on a very small group of core issues, and they don't care who they have to vote for to get them. There is no type of chaos that takes their eyes away from winning at all costs. The left and center... even with our existential fates at stake, there are some who'd be willing to risk it just to prove a point.

@patricaowens Ай бұрын

⁠@@fighterck6241Please tell me what existential risk you will be taking.NOBODY can tell me without making something up.

@fenderblue9485 Ай бұрын

Talk about Project 2025 and how american lives are going to change.

@stephaniewoods6797 Ай бұрын

Biden is going to talk about it more, Kamala needs to tie Project 2025 and the Abortion debacle together, and get those surrogates out there! And candidates STOP RUNNING AWAY FROM BIDEN! The GOP his hanging with that criminal and rapists, so I don't see why a good man can't have the back of his party that he has worked so hard to bring up.

@malirk Ай бұрын

Let's fix the Joe Biden issue and get someone who can beat Trump.

@IP0Monsturd Ай бұрын

Sex changes for everybody?

@realCyng Ай бұрын

They'll be a lot freer and more prosperous. It'll be great!

@EndlessFilmLimited Ай бұрын

@@realCyng It would is literally calling for arresting American citizens...

@leonardgnani7886 26 күн бұрын

Imagine if the Robert Hur interview were to emerge as an October surprise, should Biden remain in the race.

@VincentFulco Ай бұрын

this is going to be the spin of all spins when they decide to eliminate / go around V.P. Harris at the same time...

@goodwolf152 Ай бұрын

20:43 This is specious and entirely presumptive. Elaine Kamarck just did an extensive rundown with Ezra Klein on this very topic, and she insists that this is actually not that difficult, that there are a LOT of people within the party, in leadership and otherwise, who know exactly how to do this and would be able to carry it out without any particular confusion or delay. She concedes it would look messy and most pundits wouldn't be able to explain to the public everything that's going on, but she has supreme confidence that this is not beyond the capacity of the current party members to execute perfectly competently. And she would know, being as she is the foremost expert in the world on this country's presidential nomination system, and has herself been a high level advisor on numerous presidential campaigns.

@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md Ай бұрын

Excellent comment. Judging from the current state of the D.N.C., what would be the most obvious hurdles to get over?

@TheMageesa Ай бұрын

@@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md Getting on the ballot in GA with a Republican Governor.

@goodwolf152 29 күн бұрын

@@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md Biden stepping down, really. That’s the only piece of this that’s actually really hard. If he simply refuses to step down, that’s the end of this whole conversation. Per Elaine Kamarck, it would appear everything else would more or less happen according to procedure, which yes, DOES have plenty of established precedent and is not some mysterious art permanently lost to history.

@Dragonpaddler Ай бұрын

He has been a great politician. But it is time to do the right thing for the country and not what his wife wants (The White House)

@joebuck714 Ай бұрын

How do you know that Jill wants him to stay?

@gooser__43 Ай бұрын

Yes, Biden acquired multimillionaire wealth on government salaries!

@comradeeverclear4063 Ай бұрын

50 years of do nothing politics and corruption. Yep. Great politician for sure. The right thing for the country is to make sure a corrupt democrat like him. Kamala, Newsome, and Big Mike Obama NEVER HOLD OFFICE AGAIN.

@StephenBelcher-sr3zk 26 күн бұрын

I’ve got a photographic memory and I M not a button presser either uncle Joe❤

@maxmcgloin Ай бұрын

No one with any ambition to take over the nomination is going to do anything but be loyal. No matter what they are thinking, they will toe the line. But if Joe had a "bad night" he has let it become a bad week by still not giving any tough one-on-one interviews. There comes a time when you must put your country ahead of your own ambition.

@davidricart1395 Ай бұрын

the Giant Douche versus Turd Sandwich meme will get a lot of run this year

@IP0Monsturd Ай бұрын

It’s Trump V Biden. Not Obama v Biden.

@mattb8968 29 күн бұрын

I love the podcast! I always like to watch on KZfaq because I get to see people’s faces but have no problem with audio only on the podcast app. Would be helpful if the thumbnail had like and “audio only” icon

@seattlekarim964 Ай бұрын

I'll offer my vote to whichever candidate drops out.

@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md Ай бұрын

Biden says he'll click "like" on your comment if you first delete it. Thanks.

@soko1450 Ай бұрын

I’m worried more about the cognitive abilities of the people who still think he has what it takes to function as a Walmart greeter, let alone president.

@HokieD1993 Ай бұрын

He still passed a lot of key legislation (chips, infrastructure, etc) and is presiding over a thriving economy by most measures. So presumably his cognitive abilities aren't bad enough to be unproductive in office.

@jazzyg5831 Ай бұрын

and 45 passed the MOCA test which he raves about. NOT THE MENSA< THE MOCA!!!!!😂(MAN, WOMAN, PERSON CAMERA, TV)REMEMBER THAT GUY? He BRAGGED ABOUT TAKING IT!. MY mum God rest her soul, took that test to get into an independent assisted living facility.

@Jmamelia 29 күн бұрын

@@HokieD1993He has a stable of handlers. The same handlers that put together the debate terms. 😮

@irenafarm 29 күн бұрын

Biden’s issue appears to be physical, not cognitive. The debate night babbling seemed to be a special occasion powered by overdoing the cough syrup. I do think he’s not got the stamina to support the intense stress levels that go with the job. I also think this went south only recently. Biden last summer was still biking and whatnot. By October, he’d acquired that raspy voice and cough and shuffling gait. I wonder about Long Covid. I have that. Sometimes I am able to hike and get perfect scores on statistics quizzes. And some days I can’t hardly walk to fix a sandwich. There’s sudden brain fog associated with that, too. The brain fog is super weird. It’s like trying to swim through molasses. Regardless, we need to see him out there and instead, it seems like they’re hiding him. That’s not good.

@JJJRRRJJJ Ай бұрын

I invested in Kamala at 13%. Now shes at 48% and I’m up $1,400 lol

@pebre79 Ай бұрын

No, dems want to lose the down tickets lol

@christopherchilton-smith6482 Ай бұрын

The Lich has a good track record so I'm voting for him.

@irenafarm 29 күн бұрын

If he’s a Lich,, doesn’t that make his staff, necromancers? That’s pretty metal.

@dmcmac9619 Ай бұрын

Hard to believe Trump and Biden are the same age.

@ryrythefryguy4645 Ай бұрын

they arent. biden is 3 years older

@irenafarm 29 күн бұрын

Trump’s brain is 10 years older, while Biden’s body has aged about 10 years in 9 months.

@Daniel-ju3ku Ай бұрын

You guys sound neutral. I could not tell bias, one way or the other. Well done

@m.j.c.6969 Ай бұрын

"Neural"??? Did you mean neutral Shit-for-brains? 😂

@rickyspanish4792 Ай бұрын

agree, good podcast

@Futhi.Johnson 27 күн бұрын

If he drops out of the campaign..it follows he must leave the presidency as well

@pozelenore880 28 күн бұрын

IF YOU WERE ANGRY and a hasty divorce lost your best man, emptied hope from your children, and you be old and lonely every night, just pretending he is still your lover with his heartbeat all night ... swear you smell him still in the morning .... THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU LOSE A PERSON. DONT THROW FOLKS AWAY .... lets hang on to JaBiden a moment longer.

@brysonwest93 Ай бұрын

How about Harris/Biden? She gets a seasoned advisor. Joe gets to stay in Washington.

@dono64 Ай бұрын

@@brysonwest93 , never going to happen, Kamala Harris polls even lower than Joe Biden if that’s possible

@user-xu6bv7yh2j Ай бұрын

Harris/Obama is the only way

@irenafarm 29 күн бұрын

How about no? Kamala has TWICE as much high level governance experience as Obama did when he was inaugurated. In fact, she’s done more different types of government work than either Biden or Obama ever did. Biden and Harris probably picked a short list of VP candidates in 2020. It’s sitting in a cabinet that’s marked _“In Case of 25th Amendment, Break Glass.”_ Biden needs to go home and rest, then maybe do a Member Berries tour with Obama to hype the new generation.

@Prototheria 26 күн бұрын

@@user-xu6bv7yh2j Why not Biden/Obama just for the lulz because it's obvious at this point that neither party is serious about fielding a viable and worthy leader. That said, I'd LOVE to see Harris run the train on trump in a debate.

@devonlindsay3879 Ай бұрын

Why wasn't mitch removed When his body and mind freeze on camera? Why aren't you talking about loser, because of his constant dementia glitches, becoming president

@malirk Ай бұрын

Mitch's term ends in 2027. Republicans will pull a Dianne Feinstein on Mitch before replacing him. Keeping the elderly serving to maintain party lines is elder abuse.

@IP0Monsturd Ай бұрын

Still butthurt Hillary lost?

@janefairall579 Ай бұрын

He is not running for re election in 2025.

@ryrythefryguy4645 Ай бұрын

your whataboutism is showing. most people with a brain would say that no old person with serious cognitive decline should have their hands on the nuclear button.

@irenafarm 29 күн бұрын

I mean, it’s kind of a relief to have a few days off endless Trump toxicity. If Biden resigns and Kamala takes the Oval Office, we’ll have a few days of fun hype and then we can focus on “wtf what Trump did” again.

@christine7475 29 күн бұрын

Unless your polls include trump, Biden, rfk, stein, west, write in, and will not vote for anyone’s they are not even close to being accurate. So sick of the flawed polls that only have trump and Biden. But then you know better - so if they only show the two your polls are crap.

@Maxkraft19 29 күн бұрын

I think people over estimate the ability for Democrats to choose a candidate at the convention.

@MapleYum Ай бұрын

I find the insinuations that’s he’s senile by insiders to be distasteful. What I saw was a tired, older man getting frustrated by a lying lunatic. No shame in being old and wise, but it’s good to know when to pass the baton to someone better equipped for the moment. I’m sure it feels unfair.

@rachels.8051 Ай бұрын

I think it’s unfortunate, but the debate probably brought into sharp focus what could’ve been more easily written off as minor mistakes earlier. It seems it’s time to step aside. He’s been an excellent president, but his legacy will be forever ruined if Trump is elected.

@kb_100 Ай бұрын

@@rachels.8051funding a genocide doesn't make an excellent president

@whatwhat745 Ай бұрын

Let it go Joe

@immortalblue7315 28 күн бұрын

Funny how the guy who said people were over reacting by saying Biden woukd drop out is now saying Biden may drop out. These people flip flop more than a tumble weed in Arizona

@Prototheria 26 күн бұрын

These certainly are dynamic times.

@immortalblue7315 28 күн бұрын

Guys obviously didnt see Bidens North Carolina speach.

@aetheronautsomnid5261 Ай бұрын

Kamala is universally disliked. Do not do this

@vinista256 Ай бұрын

She has 4 months to win people over. And even those who “don’t like” her will admit, at this point, that she is cognitively more with-it than Biden.

@Shineon83 Ай бұрын

Including by AAs ( other than AA women over 55)

@Peanutfiendsblog Ай бұрын

Don't be racist.

@user-xu6bv7yh2j Ай бұрын

Harris as POTUS, Obama as VP - they would win

@K-OnTheCase Ай бұрын

@@user-xu6bv7yh2jUgh… eye roll 🙄. Take a look at the economy under Obama. Do people even research or understand politics anymore?

@jackkazinsky290 Ай бұрын

what I notice is no video, please fix this

@mac5237 Ай бұрын

I think I saw the squirrel demon blink a few times

@captainmurphy4720 28 күн бұрын

FUN LISTENING TO PARTISAN DEMOCRAT MEDIA FRET.

@richardsansbury7453 28 күн бұрын

Dems need to back the nominee. Whoever it is.

@gshenaut Ай бұрын

NYT is not an unbiased source on this story. In any case, it's up to Joe. I will respect his decision, either way.

@runningray Ай бұрын

Notice all of the stories about Biden dropping out begin in the conservative eco system. The Republicans are terrified of Biden. They know they will lose to him. The only way they see a victory is if they get the Dem's to tell Biden to drop out.

@1237barca Ай бұрын

So surprising and impressive that republicans somehow knew Joe had dementia back in 2020, despite their being no signs…

@user-xu6bv7yh2j Ай бұрын

Obama is talking to the big donors - they are picking the new candidate - didn't anyone watch Succession?

@andyunchained4393 26 күн бұрын

Looks like hunter while he failed a drug test in the Navy then proceeded 2 sleep with his brothers widow....

@AaronTuring 29 күн бұрын

if you miss Nate Silver on this podcast, he's really good in this interview, talking about how Biden is too old and he could be replaced kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o5-YjdCo1Z3bdmQ.html

@Lulu767 Ай бұрын

I’m voting for Joe since he’s a king now he can cancel the election and just stay in office. Can’t be punished for anything he does when he’s in office.😂

@jackrice2770 Ай бұрын

King Biden seems a better choice than King Trump, no?

@Lulu767 Ай бұрын

@@jackrice2770 lol I agree😂😂😂

@vinista256 Ай бұрын

Unfortunately, the Supreme Court said THEY would be the judge of whether a President was immune or not in ambiguous cases, meaning Republican Presidents will be deemed immune and Democrats not.

@elizabethbrown8833 Ай бұрын

Is that why he called his son Barron? @@jackrice2770

@elizabethbrown8833 Ай бұрын

@@vinista256what happened to We the People

@joshrRealAmerican Ай бұрын

Whoever they choose will divide even more.

@1237barca Ай бұрын

The DNC needs to replace Joe. To save democracy.

@JuanSanchez-tu3dc Ай бұрын

I nominate Jamie Dimon.

@jackied962 Ай бұрын

hell yeah

@FireEverLiving Ай бұрын

That'd certainly be an interesting pick. He'd be the most skilled president since Eisenhower, and he can probably beat Trump. Are Democratic leaders actually considering him?

@EntertaningAmerica 29 күн бұрын

@@FireEverLivingthe party leadership is stupid and doesn’t listen to its voters because they are out of touch. It had the opportunity of a generation during/after Obama and blew it. Both parties honestly need to be dismantled… and it seems the Republicans already have in favor of Trump.

@immortalblue7315 28 күн бұрын

How couod Harris be the nominee if she didnt win any dekegstes in the Primary? This is a Joke.

@Ember-Rayne Ай бұрын

He should step down entirely. Kamala can beat trump, but she needs to be the incumbent president and she needs a few months of running things and everything continuing on without catastrophe.

@rachels.8051 Ай бұрын

I think that’s the best option.

@irenafarm 29 күн бұрын

It’s sensible and in line with institutional norms. As a bonus, there will be some fun hype over our first Madam President.

@VicStoneSCT Ай бұрын

I think Pete Buttigieg is the most effective communicator in the Democratic party and would mop the floor with Trump.

@irenafarm 29 күн бұрын

I agree. I like him as VP. But I guarantee that Biden and Harris have a short list already picked since day 1 of the term, “just in case.” I’m sure it will be fine. The important thing is to make the transition ASAP and get on the campaign trail.

@iluvlafs Ай бұрын

If Joe steps aside, who would be at the top of the ticket, and could they beat Trump?

@user-xu6bv7yh2j Ай бұрын

The donors will decide - Obama will tell Joe - the money will decide - if they choose Harris they get to keep war chest - is Harris is POTUS and she picks Obama as VP - they would win and make history and save America

@m.j.c.6969 Ай бұрын

Kamala and perhaps if we play it right!

@TheKraken5360 Ай бұрын

Kamala, and probably not.

@irenafarm 29 күн бұрын

Biden needs to retire entirely. That gives us Madam President Harris immediately. The hype will be insane. Assuming she doesn’t absolutely light the White House on fire, she’ll beat Trump easily. Just imagine you’re someone who hasn’t paid much attention and in late October you realize it’s an election year. In the Republican column: 78 year old, grumpy, angry Trump. “Wtf. I thought he was in jail! Wtf Republicans.” On the Dem side: the first Madam President, youngish, vibrant, supported by Obama and Biden and whoever her VP is. That’s not even a choice.

@DrugzMunny Ай бұрын

Some new polls are in the field to determine which other candidates can beat Trump in a general. There is only one candidate that can. An Ipsos/Reuters poll says Michelle Obama beats Trump by 11 points. Every other candidate is losing against Trump, aside from one poll that says Trump and Biden are even (in the popular vote, which means Biden would very likely lose the electoral college). It's basically Michelle Obama or nothing. I very seriously hope that Biden and Michelle both take the obvious course of action and let Michelle be the next Democratic nominee. Democrats basically need to win the popular vote by about +3.5 or +4 in order to barely win the electoral college, and only one person can do that.

@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md Ай бұрын

No. Wrong. The list of Democrats that would beat trump is long; Warren. Newsom, Whitehouse, Swalwell, Sanders (I), Whitmer, Schiff

@TheMageesa Ай бұрын

Nah that's too third-worldy to have the wife of a previous president assume office. That was Hillary's curse, and she had actual experience.

@rachels.8051 Ай бұрын

The polls aren’t really useful because most of the other possible candidates don’t have enough name ID yet. But replacing Biden would be huge news and there would be a concerted effort to elect the Democratic candidate. Trump is a known entity and is deeply disliked. We put forward someone and introduce them to the country. A lot of Americans would be thrilled to have another option.

@bernlin2000 Ай бұрын

Michelle Obama is not a politician lol...liberals are huffing glue in these polls, apparently. And she's made it very clear she has NO interest in being president, and she likely would have preferred her husband to be a one-term president if it had been her choice. People really have no idea Michelle's understanding of politics...I've never gotten the impression that she finds it particularly invigorating (unlike Jill Biden, apparently, who really seems to be enjoying the attention right now).

@irenafarm 29 күн бұрын

Why on earth would we replace the actual Vice President with someone who’s spent most of the last eight years chilling in Hawaii? Mrs. Obama has said unequivocally that she wants nothing more to do with politics.

@K-OnTheCase Ай бұрын

How sad is it that the conversation & politics has deteriorated to the point where people would vote for a party vs the politician who is the most competent (regardless of his/her party) . SMH America 🇺🇸 has lost her way. Ruled now by corruption and large corporations. I don’t think this is what our founding fathers intended. 😢

@whatwhat745 Ай бұрын

I can get behind Kamala or a ham sandwich, let's go! Vote blue over orange

@patrickday4206 Ай бұрын

what about voting for corn pop???

@AlohaBlockchain 29 күн бұрын

Trump is praying Biden remains the nominee.

@irenafarm 29 күн бұрын

I saw a video where he was blustering about Kamala being “worse.” Since he always lies, that means he’s scared of her.

@Listman11 28 күн бұрын

@@irenafarmno one is scared of her. Correction, the Democrats are afraid.

@AlohaBlockchain 26 күн бұрын

@@irenafarm Either way, Trump is the next president.

@AlohaBlockchain 13 күн бұрын

@@irenafarm I assume he wanted that video released. Harris will still lose by a wide margin, but less so than Biden.

@mastercabbage 27 күн бұрын

>British politics > relevant to Americans Pick one.

@bendaud4563 Ай бұрын

Oh my God! From the frying pan into the fire. From Biden to Kamala??? GOD SAVE US!

@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md Ай бұрын

What, exactly, is your objection to Harris? Yeah, she tends to meander in interviews, sometimes, but she was the attorney general of California. Give her a chance to put her game face on.

@JR-pr8jb Ай бұрын

Racist MAGA never liked Biden or Kamala, did you?

@fighterck6241 Ай бұрын

Jesus f Christ, we can't just have everything you want. If Biden goes, she's the Vice President, it makes the most sense. Are people going to hold the rest of the country hostage until we pick some "perfect" candidate. Because there is none. Even Bernie would have issues right now. Trump should not even be viable given his policy proposals, but he isn't because noone in the media or anywhere else will ever focus on him at all. It's like the fix is in to make him president so that the billionaire class can have their eternal hegemony over the world.