The AVR in this video is an Onkyo TX-NR509. However, the procedures apply to most Onkyo and Pioneer AV receivers
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@ollieox918111 ай бұрын
Okay, let's get this straight: you unplug everything, remove the top to show all the naked electronics, you find this one doo-hinky, and heat it up with a heat gun - right? I'm calling bullsh*t. Just another crank upload looking for attention and hits. But, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I have this exact problem. Worst case is I'm no worse off than I was before. Still think your solution is bullsh*t but I'll give it a try. EDIT: I take it all back. I was wrong. I did it as you showed here - but heated the doo-hinky for a minute or so. And now it works just fine. I'm indebted to you, sir. You just saved me a couple thousand dollars. Thank you.
@neighorizon-419011 ай бұрын
LOL
@TristanVash3811 ай бұрын
@@neighorizon-4190 Bro this guy went shitballs on you and then gave you the keys to his car. I mean, damn! LOL....I just want to know who hurt him in the past. Thank you for setting him on a path of healing!
@failingup49079 ай бұрын
@@TristanVash38 Give him credit for admitting he was wrong. I love seeing posts like his.. Its called humility.. More people need that.
@TristanVash389 ай бұрын
@@failingup4907 I gave an appropriate response while referencing a path of healing (The first half of the comment is not humility, it is unproportionately harsh, while the second half is as we agree on, humility and humbled). I would hope this isn't his response to subjects he is less than familiar with across the board. If it is, that is where my reference of a path of healing comes into play. I apologize if my comment above from a couple months ago offended you and I hope you have a good rest of your day and peace to you and your family and friends.
@failingup49079 ай бұрын
@@TristanVash38 Didn't offend me at all. Saw his mistake and apologized. Some don't apologize.
@perkulant46296 ай бұрын
To anyone who does this, take care of heating up the electrolytic caps nearby. They like to pop when they get too warm. Love seeing these simple fixes, have fixed loads of devices this way in the past. Good job!
@rolandobell523112 күн бұрын
Last Friday, Aug. 9, 2024, I bought at FB marketplace a Yamaha rx-1030 for only $50 when the seller told me if it didn't work he will refund my money back. Today, Sunday, I was still having a trouble fixing this receiver. I bought different cords rca, hdmi, optical but to no avail I'm almost throw this beast. I called the seller earlier and I told him that this receiver didn't work and he refunded my money back... Later in the afternoon, I search here in KZfaq how to fix receiver with no sound and voila! I just brush the top board then it works!!! Thank you so so so much!!!
@Saul-ps9fu9 күн бұрын
Then you call back the seller and return the fifty bucks? Shame on him right?
@PiotrWGdansk11 күн бұрын
Thank you! 30 seconds with 300°C hot air helped my Onkyo NR609 to work again!!! Great diagnosis and manual! Awesome job, thank you! /Piotr from Poland
@kees-hp6yd Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this. Your clear video helped me to try and fix the sound issue I had with my Onkyo TX-NR515 A/V Receiver. For the last couple of weeks the sound only came up after switching the receiver off and on again several times. After heating up the DSP chip, the sound comes up immediately again, already for four days now!
@neighorizon-4190 Жыл бұрын
Glad that it helps
@michael-4k4000 Жыл бұрын
Pour honey on the board lol, I like a sweet sound lol
@chillonreceptioncenter84018 ай бұрын
12-12-23 Christmas Miracle... heated it once for 20 seconds and nothing. Let it all cool and tried again for 35 seconds. That did the trick. I wanted to find some flux but got impatient. Thanks
@neighorizon-41908 ай бұрын
Happy Holidays!
@refactoringg Жыл бұрын
So funny story, my uncle tried to fix my ONKYO htr390 and there was no luck, except I kept it running for quite a while until it got very hot, and it somehow reflowed! Gonna try this again!
@neighorizon-4190 Жыл бұрын
It's most likely to be "thermal expansion" that makes the contacts.
@refactoringg Жыл бұрын
@@neighorizon-4190 probably
@LandenBMS Жыл бұрын
I have a sherwood with the same symptoms and the same type of chip. I'll give this a go, thanks!
@hiz-n-lowz1577 Жыл бұрын
did it work?
@LandenBMS Жыл бұрын
No.
@colinneish5654 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir, life without music is not an option, sorted in 30 secs like u said
@neighorizon-4190 Жыл бұрын
Enjoy!
@t2johan7 ай бұрын
Same her, fixed mine. Took 2 minutes of heating😂But then sound was back, hopefully it holds for a while. I heated mine A LOT, everything was really hot so maybe dont be to scarred to heat a bit more than 30 sec. 2 min on step 1 with a standard heatgun👍🏻
@thesuperconnor67902 ай бұрын
Good idea is to use tin foil screwed up to cover the area you don't want heating, so you can heat it more, also add some passive heat sinks. Not tried any of this yet mind, but I've repaired over devices with similar methods, such as games consoles, graphics cards etc.
@aleksandarlazovic34777 ай бұрын
Thanks man, I've just fixed the same problem on my tx 8050 with hair dryer.
@wimbruins36523 ай бұрын
Hi, Ihave the same one (tx-8050). But iam not sure which chip to heat. Can you please help me out here?
@wimbruins36523 ай бұрын
Found it. It is on the flipside of the board. I disconnected the board and turned it. I found the chip, heated it up but no result. A couple of tries didn't work for me😢
@KSeet Жыл бұрын
Hi, my 616 usually works fine but after using it for maybe an hour or two, the sound starts to distort to a very low volume. Sometimes changing to stereo and not using a DTS or Dolby Digital brings back some sound to the main speakers. Sometimes, changing to zone 2 or 3 also works. But then mostly the sound doesn't really come back properly. It may be very soft and very underpowered. Can your method work? Thanks.
@neighorizon-4190 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like related to the DAC
@KSeet Жыл бұрын
@@neighorizon-4190 OK. If only I can fix it. I don't have the expertise. Thanks.
@HomlezzStonerzzАй бұрын
Awesome Video! Do you happen to have a way to troubleshoot a RCA RT2870r?
@trevorbrown56168 ай бұрын
Brilliant worked first time. Thank you
@MrTech6267 ай бұрын
Hey thank you so much this actually work and believe me I had my doubts
@joewhittenbury62345 ай бұрын
I have an Onkyo 609 i used the hairdryer and my hair is dry but still no sound
@neighorizon-41905 ай бұрын
The temperature of hair dryer may not be sufficient to soften the underfill material. However, I don't think that it worth the investment of a new hot gun, unless you have some other usage as well.
@fredsvv4 ай бұрын
I have problems with my Onkyo tx-nr838 with no eARC sound. When I connect something on the receiver it works well. But when the sound needs to come back from the HDMI eARC that's no sound. Do you know how to fix it?
@norbertrode6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. I have the same problem with my Onkyo TX-NR609. No sound and the speakers were not displayed on the front. I did the fix as you outlined and it started working again. I was very happy to not have to buy a new receiver. However when I put the case back on and put the receiver back on the shelf the problem has reappeared. I tried the same fix again, this time making it a bit hotter and pushing down on the chip until it cooled. It did not work this time though. The problem does seem to be the connectors on the DTS chip, as it worked initally, but maybe mine to too far gone. Do you have any other suggestions?
@neighorizon-41906 ай бұрын
There are a couple of hundreds BGA joints. If only a few of them failed, this cure should help. However, you may have too many disconnections, which causes the cure didn't last long.
@norbertrode6 ай бұрын
@@neighorizon-4190 Thanks for the reply. I have tried again and it seems to work while it is still hot from the heat gun, but then stops working again when it cools down. I will try and source a new circuit board, but as you said previously it may be expensive. Maybe a second hand receiver is a better option.
@MrChrisRPАй бұрын
@@norbertrode It sounds like maybe a failed cap you caused to fail with the heat, now. Worth a test and look. That's what would happen if it was a failed one.
@mib2000020 күн бұрын
OI have a Onkyo TX NR757 and out of nowhere I get a blinking standby light and it wont turn on at all and sometimes it will just come on by itself and then go back to the blinking standby light
@jonesbasf26 күн бұрын
Thank you for this! It saved my amp. So glad to not have to be getting a new one and junking this one.
@neighorizon-419025 күн бұрын
👍
@ianmarkhammes20717 ай бұрын
Also helps when you turn the speaker switch on. Thanks for the tip.
@Kijoki10 ай бұрын
Thanks this worked for me. Unfortunately I think I heated it for too long as the front buttons are no longer responding nor is it working with the remote 😢
@neighorizon-419010 ай бұрын
Very likely your heating area is too large and affected the micro controller. Have you check the connector ? make sure to secure the connections.
@Jojo619732 ай бұрын
I have 3 onkyo.2 txnr646 and one tx nr 509. No sound with same issue. Contacted onkyo for any kind of help ,and replied no more support for these defected units.For me when i will afford to buy a new receiver ,sure no onkyo or pioneer.
@troyrobinson494919 күн бұрын
How do I get the best sound out of my subwoofer sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't
@TB-td6fx5 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video😊 Now my TX-NR709 works again.😃👍
@arthurlim55586 күн бұрын
I have onkyo TX-NR609 all channel is working well but center channel noise and low sound, any advice
@neighorizon-41905 күн бұрын
Probably broken amp. Require quite some skill to repair.
@VA13NTA10 ай бұрын
Worked for me! Thank you
@sebastiaanbos93579 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, works like a charm on a nr414. Another thing I noticed was that before the fix the Ethernet port was not working. Afterwards it worked again.
@bikingviking12237 ай бұрын
Those are the exact problems that I have. And despite several heating attempts of varying lengths of the dts chip, unfortunately no improvements. Is your Onkyo receiver still working?
@jahmezis4511 ай бұрын
What if my speakers are showing but there's no sound? Also I've been trying to run all my sound through Bluetooth which connects but no sound
@racktech63845 ай бұрын
I have the same issue. I see the speaker icon on the display but no sound.
@michael-4k4000 Жыл бұрын
Have an RZ-50 and was working fine for 6 months, today i am getting ZERO soun. Help?
@neighorizon-4190 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but there are too many reasons that could cause no sound. Have you contact tech support?
@johncunningham4902 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for that very informative video. I have a TEAC AG-D8900 AV Receiver which I've had for 35 years or so. Suddenly the sound has been cutting out. At first I could get it back by just tapping on the side of the unit. Now however it is totally off. It is like the mute is on all the time, yet there's no way to "un-mute" it. Would you have any recommendations? It has been an excellent receiver after all these years. Thank you for any input you might have! John.
@neighorizon-4190 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but I'm not familiar with that receiver. Sounds like it's also related to the sound processor.
@gordthor5351 Жыл бұрын
@johncunningham4902 If you can tap on the side of the unit and it starts working, that can only be a bad connection somewhere. Typically bad solder joints, which will need to be resoldered. Look for the tell tale sign of broken solder joints (a cracked ring around the joint).
@Gift_ofgod345 ай бұрын
Whats the point of hearing it if you want it to cool down.
@xkitejunkie4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! This worked great for me!!
@perkulant46296 ай бұрын
Nice song at the end, what’s it called?
@failingup49079 ай бұрын
My Pioneer SC-97 just started doing this about a month ago. Currently , no sound. I might have to try this. Must be a manufacturing defect on these HDMI boards. I just ordered a New Sony AZ5000es.. So we'll see what happens.
@neighorizon-41909 ай бұрын
Yes, it's the BGA package used that causes the problem. Most other receivers use quad pin package.
@12SiNNeD129 ай бұрын
Worked for me.
@gordthor5351 Жыл бұрын
You should do an update video to show that such a "fix" has lasted.
@neighorizon-4190 Жыл бұрын
It's definitely not a permanent fix, but mine is still working. The idea is to reflow the underfill polymer (100-150C) and press down the IC to make better contacts of solder balls. Maintain the pressure until it cools down.
@michaelc8215 ай бұрын
How does he know its common? Didn't see him carrying out any tests with a suitable test equipments.
@neighorizon-41905 ай бұрын
The DAC is the key element in the digital to analogue (sound) path. It is almost obvious if there is no sound out of all channels. In the case, that only a few channels fail, the faulty parts might be related to the amplifications.
@sharona46158 ай бұрын
We have the same receiver and we were able to fix the sound. Thank you!!
@ashneelkumar777 Жыл бұрын
Greetings, I have an old TX-SR603 model that turns ON but no sound. This model does not have HDMI inputs and the board inside doesn't seem to have the particular chip. So I'm unable to do this simple fix as shown on video. Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated. Great video.
@michaelzeinert2074 Жыл бұрын
I have an older kenwood kr-v9030 and everything works great, but it has very low volume. Do you have any idea what to look for ? Should i try cleaning the pots ? Thank you
@manwiththeplan2156 ай бұрын
I have a denon avr-s910w that has no sound from zone 1 but zone 2 has sound ive been trying to figure this out all day any suggestions 🤔
@neighorizon-41906 ай бұрын
Muted? anyway, it should be along the analog path.
@amaldeep118210 ай бұрын
My onkyo set is stuck on " NOW INITIALISING" on the screen . What should I do. Please reply
@neighorizon-419010 ай бұрын
Firmware problem? not quite sure.
@jdmfl3111 ай бұрын
My Onkyo has a zone 2 which works but all my other speakers don't I believe I heard a clicking noise like an internal switch switching before it all stopped working except zone 2 speakers. My question is, Is this the same problem you are referring to?
@neighorizon-419011 ай бұрын
No. Should be related to the amp protection mode.
@jdmfl3111 ай бұрын
@@neighorizon-4190 can it be fixed with heat?
@neighorizon-419011 ай бұрын
@@jdmfl31 No, it's probably due to overheating:-} Cause could be quite complicated from power supply to amp failures. Have you checked for any shortage at the speaker binding posts? unplug all the speaker connections and reconnect carefully to avoid any kind of shortages.
@jdmfl3111 ай бұрын
@@neighorizon-4190 why does zone 2 still work it's super loud but it doesn't have any kind of dsp it's just plain stereo. Are there 2 amps in the receiver?
@neighorizon-419011 ай бұрын
Does Zone 2 share one of the power output or through RCA's ?@@jdmfl31
@ignacioezcurra254211 ай бұрын
I have an onkyo 616 that switches on but it doesn't do any sound at all from any input, not even the wireless.I have an onkyo 616 that switches on but it doesn't do any sound at all from any input, not even the wireless. Will this work?
@neighorizon-419011 ай бұрын
Yes, very likely. Do you see the speaker map on the front display?
@neighorizon-419011 ай бұрын
Yes
@Gummi3003 ай бұрын
@@neighorizon-4190 I have a Marantz SR7005, no picture, no sound and no speaker map on display...any ideas?
@behnaz59 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2.1 pioneer system. When I play a song the subwoofer doesn't work. I need every time to set speakers in the amp menu to make subwoofer works and after turning the amp off and then on it doesn't work again. Can you help?
@neighorizon-4190 Жыл бұрын
It seems that the setting was not saved after each change. It may also be related to the listening mode such as "direct music" or "pure direct".
@behnaz59 Жыл бұрын
@@neighorizon-4190 I also checked all the listening modes and no sound comes out of subwoofer
@devrimboz430214 күн бұрын
i have onkyo 309, since 7 years, , i open and have to wait , because it works 5minutes later, interestingly.
@craigkovatch7564 Жыл бұрын
I have an TX-NR609 with an already warranty-replaced DSP chip. I recently lost my sound, but I still get the speaker indicators on the front of the unit. Do you think it's still worth trying to reflow the DSP?
@neighorizon-4190 Жыл бұрын
You could give it a try, even just heat up a little bit (thermal expansion) and see the effects.
@craigkovatch7564 Жыл бұрын
Turns out it was a config issue! Thanks for the reply tho. I basically just toggled every setting on the TV and suddenly had sound again.
@baynoli16 ай бұрын
hi I have 609 also, with same issue no sound, as I observed the board where there are a lot of power transistors are really fired up its untouchble even there was no load. Is this normal for onkyo? Tks, will it work using a hair dryer..😅 Cheers
@craigkovatch75646 ай бұрын
My issue was solved by getting rid of my optical cable and using ARC on the HDMI instead, which I didn’t even realize excited lol
@KF-Studio-One Жыл бұрын
Thx for the video! I hab the same problem and i fixed it with your tips. I've made a couple of tests with the temperature of the chip. The chip needs to be at 30° celcius to switch on. It will heat up by himself when you switch on the receiver, but it takes 5min. Then restart the receiver and everything is ok. Its the same at pioneer.
@neighorizon-4190 Жыл бұрын
Glad that it worked for you
@ofp60248 ай бұрын
Hi, I have TX-SR508 and it has same sound issue but dsp chip in my avr is not bga version, what to do now? Please help
@neighorizon-41908 ай бұрын
It could be that the chip is toasted, as they run very hot.
@ofp60248 ай бұрын
@@neighorizon-4190 so do i need to replace it ?
@neighorizon-41908 ай бұрын
The main board is quite expensive. I think that you would rather buy a new receiver.
@ofp60248 ай бұрын
@@neighorizon-4190 can't we change the ic
@neighorizon-41908 ай бұрын
Yes, you can, if you have the proper tools to do the job.
@kajmi25 Жыл бұрын
I have video and audio cutouts with pioneer av receiver. Could this be the problem too? Im using hdmi cable for 4k hdr. 1-2 seconds lost during watching movies than everything comes back again. This can happen sometimes 1-2 times in an hour or more.
@neighorizon-4190 Жыл бұрын
Could be. However, I would also check the source and the cabling first, for instance, change a source player, an HDMI cable, or a different input on the receiver.
@kajmi25 Жыл бұрын
@@neighorizon-4190 i bought a new cable, tried other hdmi ports, also youtube in browser does the same thing if connected thru av to tv.
@kajmi25 Жыл бұрын
@@neighorizon-4190 i have Pioneer VSX932 7.2 av receiver.
@neighorizon-4190 Жыл бұрын
@@kajmi25 Then it should be related to either the audio or video DAC. I'm not familiar with the VSX932 though.
@sebastianolsson Жыл бұрын
Worked for me, used a hair dryer for 1 minute since i dont have a heat Gun
@neighorizon-4190 Жыл бұрын
Glad that it helps
@menocorde9 ай бұрын
That's great luck I tried it with a hair dryer also with no luck, however, after trying it with an actual heat gun, it worked.
@nobinsaputra2497 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible without disassembling the receiver? I have same problem with my pioneer vsx-323-k. Only pro logic and neo6 via analog input is working. After 1-2 hours use, hdmi audio working but with some distortion and no audio after that
@davelowets8 ай бұрын
No
@MrChrisRPАй бұрын
If it is going to trash anyway, but you're inclined to try something before so: Leave it plugged in and turned on running for a whille, then blow a hair dryer in the top vents for a bit to see if anything changes.
@nobinsaputra2497Ай бұрын
@@MrChrisRP well, i already throw that receiver away. I bought an onkyo tx-nr717 and it was perfect.
@MrChrisRPАй бұрын
@@nobinsaputra2497 Enjoy!
@kgbcorvette8 ай бұрын
Cute dog!!
@neighorizon-41908 ай бұрын
Yes, she can smell and identify where the problem is located 🙂
@rozrewolwerowanyrewolwer391 Жыл бұрын
You're great! It helped ;D
@neighorizon-4190 Жыл бұрын
Enjoy!
@baldwinwong56187 ай бұрын
Glad to hear you are successful, but I am not 😢
@rozrewolwerowanyrewolwer3917 ай бұрын
@@baldwinwong5618 heat it longer, when I had this problem second time, I heated too short and had to repeat it.
@ThePowerfox18 Жыл бұрын
Aux is not giving sound as well. Can it still be a hdmi chip fault?
@neighorizon-4190 Жыл бұрын
Not sure whether the analog AUX is remixed for multi-channel replay. If not, then it's related to the volume IC or the amp section.
@ThePowerfox18 Жыл бұрын
@@neighorizon-4190 thanks for the info 👍
@andrewstambaugh24011 ай бұрын
On my 708, even the analog/rca input runs through that. The speakers won't click on unless that chip tells them to.
@Gummi3003 ай бұрын
I have a Marantz SR7005 with no picture or sound and no speaker map, going to give this a try, I have nothing to loose
@MrHyd3.10 ай бұрын
I try this technique whit my onkyo 609 and no work
@jellybeanjellybean-tn2lm7 ай бұрын
Can we get a circuit board like that?
@neighorizon-41907 ай бұрын
I think so, but it easily cost a few hundreds of dollars.
@antoniovasco8316 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@johnd4697 Жыл бұрын
thanks i gonna try it tommorow
@izzzzzz69 ай бұрын
I would like to see someone prove this by applying pressure, otherwise you may just be temporarily reviving tired capacitors to fix the issue for a short while.
@menocorde9 ай бұрын
I did apply pressure to the chip without success, not much though, just what the finger would allow me to, I tried heating it with a hair drier, it didn't work. after getting a proper heat gun, it did work, however, the subwoofer pre out still not working.
@analizaalday739711 ай бұрын
Sir im pilipino my onkyo txsr 702 no sound but have display still in speaker set up.thnks sir
@neighorizon-419011 ай бұрын
Have you tried the RCA output?
@sandyidk8676 ай бұрын
My onkyo HT-390 once worked with all the 5 attached boxes. But now only works with three of them. I'm not technical at all so have no clue what to change. Also, since using the sound system on my TV, steaming services like prime video and Netflix movies with dolby 5.1 don't work... So really no use of using the system. Which is just a waste... Can't find anywhere why this is an issue and if it can be resolved
@milhouse53Ай бұрын
What if i use a hair dryer?
@neighorizon-4190Ай бұрын
You can give it a try. on high heat
@rgruenhaus Жыл бұрын
No Flux needed?
@neighorizon-4190 Жыл бұрын
No. I don't think that it reached reflow temperature
@mefistole5 ай бұрын
grazie funziona!!!!
@qordian3684 Жыл бұрын
Stil working?
@neighorizon-4190 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@rasalerajesh Жыл бұрын
@@neighorizon-4190 I have rz820, due to storm last night my onkyo sound is not coming. everything else is working fine .. its just NO SOUND. Service center mentioned something about amplifier to change.. Does this chip heating fixes the issues? or can we replace the board or the chip ??
@neighorizon-4190 Жыл бұрын
Not sure about the problem. Normally related to the power supply. Unlikely to be the amplifier, as it should be show some error codes if the amplifier is not function properly.@@rasalerajesh
@cloudguru123 Жыл бұрын
@@neighorizon-4190 i tried dimmer+power button, then tone button to see the debug mode.. none shows ??? I see alphabatical number.. service guy on phone says amplifier might needs repalcement. Do you know how to find part number and where i can buy it ?
@justindk4718Ай бұрын
Wow, this actually worked…used a Dyson 😂😂
@neighorizon-4190Ай бұрын
👍
@davelowets8 ай бұрын
I hate BGA chips... they are a poor design. There's NO way (except for using X-Ray equipment, to physically inspect that the solder process is going well when the board comes out of the reflow oven during manufacturing, and adjust the process if it looks shady. There could be a solder paste/stencil issue, an alignment issue from the pick and place machine, heater section out in the reflow oven, wrong temp, and so on, and a person will NOT easily carch the issue and fix the problem when they can't even see the problem to begin with. The other irritating thing about the design of these chips is a heat issue. The chip is hotter towards the center of the chip, and ends up warping the middle of the board underneath the center of the chip into a cup shape, and that ends up pulling on the solder balls in the center of it, and either creates cold solder joints, or pulls the solder balls right off the copper circuit pads underneath from the board flexing from heating and cooling. The edges of the chip stay cool enough so that the solder balls under it remain adhered, and the chip stays put, but it's under the very center few square centimeters of the chip where it gets hot enough to cause the board to cup from the heat, and the solder balls get hot enough to get to a semi-liquid state, and the joints pull apart or end up "cold" and high-resistance after they cool.
@rafaeloriel26107 ай бұрын
It is brand new and you need to open the chassis already? What a piece of junk!!!! lol
@o0Donuts0o5 ай бұрын
It’s a 515 which is VERY old. Probably older than you based on the your comment and putting LOL at the end.