Fix this mistake to make box building easy!

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DIY Audio Guy

DIY Audio Guy

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In this video I show you a very simple design change that will help you avoid common mistakes and make it easer to assemble your subwoofer box.
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@richeygoldberg8549
@richeygoldberg8549 Жыл бұрын
This is how I've built boxes since the 90s. This is some of the best box building advice I've seen on KZfaq.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Everything just fits better.
@jamesblake3090
@jamesblake3090 Ай бұрын
I was short on time before a build and wondered if there was a version of advice to watch, without all the sidetracking extra commentary that makes a 5 minute tip into a feature length film. None to worry if it's thought of as too fast to comprehend, that's what pause and rewind is for. However additional content is rewarding, just not for those pressed for time. And yes, it's known that the forward button or advancing the video is helpful, but then it's guessing where to forward to without missing information unknown. So then it's back to the "slow-show". That said, I'm a huge fan, and have used tips by this guy for a while, and have been in cabinet building since 1985. So while I have a good knowledge base, anyone can still learn tips and new things always. I humbly post this, with great and honest gratitude
@InLoveWithBass1990
@InLoveWithBass1990 3 ай бұрын
Man, I just wanted to take a second to thank you and the other audio guys that go into detail about these type of things for us diy guys. I do all my audio myself and I never would have learned as much as I have without guys like you. So I appreciate all the time and effort you have spent giving us all the info you have. You do great work man, and you definitely know what your doing so I just wanted to point that out and give you a "pat on the back". Thanks man
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate that.
@alangerhard7118
@alangerhard7118 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Building different boxes and trying different things is what it's all about. Making it easier and faster makes it more fun.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
I agree.
@michaelyoung7911
@michaelyoung7911 Жыл бұрын
This was very helpful 🤯 . My only build I had to do all the crazy adjusting to make my cuts 🤦‍♂️. Well now I know, thanks!
@stuskustomshop
@stuskustomshop Жыл бұрын
Absolutely great topic! One thing I will add from my experience; I always design the face that contains the port as a single piece (that’s to say the port wall end is not exposed on the outside of the box.). The reason this takes priority for me is that I use a jigsaw to rough cut the opening for assembly, then a router with a flush trim bit to finish the hole once assembled. This allows for the use of a round over on the port mouth as a final step, and prevents awkwardness from nails or screws when making the pass as they’re always on the face and the bit’s bearing doesn’t have to ride over them. 😉
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Pro tip for sure!
@shawnsanderson3695
@shawnsanderson3695 Жыл бұрын
I'm definitely going to start doing that now
@psyphonyxaudio
@psyphonyxaudio Жыл бұрын
Audio Manufacturing Lean Processing. This is great detailing for this process per project. Fantastic topic!
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@arthurbreault2949
@arthurbreault2949 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this info I'm going to attempt to make a box for two twelves you had a lot of great tips I wouldn't of not thought off being a newbie to box making thank you
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@halrichard1969
@halrichard1969 8 ай бұрын
One of your better beginner Vids. Thanks.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 7 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@dnate697
@dnate697 6 ай бұрын
Again, loved this Video.
@twinkyunouwantmycreamfilli8297
@twinkyunouwantmycreamfilli8297 Жыл бұрын
Lol, this one brings back memories. My first real sub i bought i believe i built 3 enclosures for it in the span of a year and a half. The 3rd enclosure i built was majorly based on this very reason. Building boxes with new tweeks is pretty fun also, though. Im about ready to build my current sub's 3rd box soon. At least i want to.
@CMBassEnclosures
@CMBassEnclosures Жыл бұрын
Solid advice! 👍👍
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky Жыл бұрын
Kids, in whatever you do remember to measure twice then cut once. Measure twice then cut once.
@shawnsanderson3695
@shawnsanderson3695 Жыл бұрын
Fun to watch the explanation. It's good to see you're hooking up those jus5 getting into building
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@wilsonrawlin8547
@wilsonrawlin8547 Жыл бұрын
EXECELLENT TUTORIAL! If you don't have a cut guide tool or table saw. Clamp a finished piece 2X4 or other very straight board, straight edge, etc. along your cut line so the circular saw base plate slide down it and the blade cuts perfectly straight from start to finish.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
A straight scrap of MDF or plywood also works. Anything straight.
@bkrgls
@bkrgls Жыл бұрын
Tracks saws are awesome too. I use my track saw for the long cuts and my table saw for the short cuts because I dont have a place to set up a spot for my table saw to be permanent. And i still prefer the screw and glue method with clamps. I use the SPAX MDF screws. You don't have to predrill any holes, but you still have to be careful of screw placement. Even though they are narrower than drywall screws, they can still cause the wood to split if they are too close to the edge of the adjoining piece. And another thing to consider and it doesn't matter what type of saw that you're using. You have to keep in mind of which side of the line is going to be cut. You can easily come up short by the thickness of the blade if you're not careful. If you're super motivated, you can use a 4 ft level and a circular saw to make good str8 cuts. Once you get the measurements down for the distance from the edge of the 4ft level to the cut side of your blade...you're good to go. Just make sure to clamp down the 4ft level before you start cutting. 😁😆✌🏾
@cinorom3803
@cinorom3803 Жыл бұрын
Excellent points. 20 years ago, I've made some atrocities. Having to fill gaps with silicone. And just bad looking enclosures.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
I have been there!
@arnicus208
@arnicus208 Жыл бұрын
I recommend using glue and screws no matter how long you’ve been making enclosures for high pressure applications. Over time, screws will hold more securely than using an air nailer due to the added surface area of the screw’s thread and how they lock into the wood’s fiber.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
For big builds with powerful subs, yes. Plus use a lot of internal support, braces, battens, etc.... For a pair of 10s or 12s under 1k watts. Glue and brad nails with some bracing is fine.
@jeremynelson8496
@jeremynelson8496 Жыл бұрын
Wood glue is significantly stronger than the wood itself. Screws or nails are just there to hold the wood until the glue dries. I think screws will give the most fudge factor if your cuts aren't prefect though.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
@@jeremynelson8496 I agree.
@jordanburrill7182
@jordanburrill7182 6 ай бұрын
Yes! Even cured glue can move and degrade over time - especially with constant vibration (joint stress).
@jordanburrill7182
@jordanburrill7182 6 ай бұрын
@@jeremynelson8496 True. Except glue can degrade over time. I've seen this happen. Add constant vibration and ...
@codyh5232
@codyh5232 Жыл бұрын
First box I ever made I used a circular saw freehand. I think about 20% of that box was wood filler by the time I was done. Edit: Oh I also didn't predrill a single hole.. MDF does not like that
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Sounds like my first box.
@bailey2517
@bailey2517 Жыл бұрын
This makes me feel slightly better about my first box 😂😂 cuz that box was horrendous too lmao
@Alexlivingloud
@Alexlivingloud 7 ай бұрын
@@bailey2517same. I used caulking to seal those big gaps lol.😂
@bailey2517
@bailey2517 7 ай бұрын
@@Alexlivingloud I used a wobbly portable table saw, and some of my measurements were way off. I used sand paper to get all the edges trimmed down and I probably spent like 2 hours sanding. My hands ached do bad 😂😭
@MrTubeman123456
@MrTubeman123456 Ай бұрын
Ive made a few speaker boxes and bass cabinet but the whole time i thought i was the only one doing it i almost thought it was rediculous just buy something but its fun if u have decent tools and some knowlage so now i nothing against it its a hobby for some and a bussiness for others but good video 👍
@alexortner2982
@alexortner2982 Жыл бұрын
I bought the Kreg edge guide it helped but buying the WEN 6.5" track saw made a huge improvement and really stepped up my cuts. When comparing the price the WEN was not all that much more than the guide itself with way better results.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Ryobi has a cordless one now, if I get a track saw I'll probably go that route since I already have batteries.
@alexortner2982
@alexortner2982 Жыл бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy I use I use Ryobi cordless tools as well. I have a dust vacuum so when that is connected to the WEN track saw there is no advantage to being without a cord. If you want to keep dust to a minimum the WEN track saw and Mikita vacuum work amazing together.
@davesnothere8859
@davesnothere8859 Жыл бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy the ryobi uses a different track than other tracksaw. The wen is standard so if you rob a bank you can upgrade and already have the track. the tracksaw changed the quality of my wood working and I have one of the several thousand dollar table saw. they are amaizing.
@charliefrancis6438
@charliefrancis6438 Жыл бұрын
Never used any of these tools but have been cutting wood for 30 years, yes some come out a little off but you put that into your design, it’s all good dude
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
You have never used a table saw?
@twinkyunouwantmycreamfilli8297
@twinkyunouwantmycreamfilli8297 Жыл бұрын
As long as those mistakes were engineered into the plans its all good. Lol
@greenbassboosts8872
@greenbassboosts8872 Жыл бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy I've never used one. It'd be good, but most saws I could get I can't see how I'd cut a 4x8 plywood with them
@donjaun540
@donjaun540 Жыл бұрын
Very nice video.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@CrystalClearSQL
@CrystalClearSQL Жыл бұрын
Good tips.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@eddieornelas9631
@eddieornelas9631 Жыл бұрын
Your awesome man thank you,
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@hqdefault
@hqdefault 5 ай бұрын
5:56 All the boxes I've done have that problem 😅😅
@tristonmccalip9238
@tristonmccalip9238 Жыл бұрын
My new favorite KZfaqr
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
You are far to kind.
@personaljesus269
@personaljesus269 Жыл бұрын
I need that jig for my circular saw!
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
They also have a track saw style jig: amzn.to/3YkV1Mt
@binsiddiqui3354
@binsiddiqui3354 5 ай бұрын
Assuming the financials of this channel, Sir ! You actually deserve more than this 🎉 A fan From Pakistan 🇵🇰
@shawnsanderson3695
@shawnsanderson3695 Жыл бұрын
I'd be so happy to have that table saw in my work space
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 11 ай бұрын
It's a great table saw, the dust collection is absolute crap. Hopefully I'll never engage the safety feature.
@Al_pacchino007
@Al_pacchino007 9 ай бұрын
Awesome computer software
@willardpearson
@willardpearson 6 ай бұрын
You can also allow more bass to sealed boxes over ported boxes. Again speakers last longer in sealed boxes then ported boxes. Do the test for yourself you will see more bass output in the sealed boxes.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 6 ай бұрын
If your claim is true then nobody would ever run ported boxes.
@mathiasmeade1309
@mathiasmeade1309 Ай бұрын
I'm getting ready to build a box for 2 12s and I already plan on inverting them. Should I port the enclosure or is that unnecessary?
@valorantorion1588
@valorantorion1588 Жыл бұрын
Literally built that exact box yesterday
@jordanburrill7182
@jordanburrill7182 6 ай бұрын
I use a folding (hinged), 6'×10' support table (which supports the entire 4×8 sheet). And a rigid saw guide, having an intergrated saw support and high volume dust collector. This is less cumbersome than a tablesaw (even with an extended table). Very fast and easy to set up! I only use a tablesaw and sliding tablesaw sled for smaller panel pieces. Another handy tool are sets of labeled spacer strip pieces, in common stock widths - zero measuring!
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 6 ай бұрын
That is a nice set up!
@donyates749
@donyates749 5 күн бұрын
What skar box is best for 12 vxf @ 2 olm. Thanks for sharing, i learned
@KalLanPIDT
@KalLanPIDT 4 ай бұрын
4:55 that left brace is very close to the port opening on the inside. This can create a choke point and the tune will be off. You wanna have ATLEAST the width of the port of free space in front of the port opening, preferably more to be sure.
@theinsaneunknown
@theinsaneunknown Жыл бұрын
Router and a flush trim bit is how I fix my mistakes, but it all takes extra time!
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Yep.
@miguelquiroz7557
@miguelquiroz7557 Жыл бұрын
When you said even a skilled worker will have a wobble on a regular skills saw you ain't lying but it is possible good stuff bro just subed
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@terrymichalewicz1033
@terrymichalewicz1033 Ай бұрын
I could use some advice on building a 6x9 box with limited space available
@rickybbuffalo706
@rickybbuffalo706 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm a bass fanatic since I first entered a Mini Cooper loaded with four 15 Rockford Fosgate subwoofers. That was around 20 some years ago. Anyway, what would you recommend for a system that would shake the foundations of buildings?
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 11 ай бұрын
Lots of power and lots of cone area.
@joeydelmarsjr.646
@joeydelmarsjr.646 4 ай бұрын
nice video
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 4 ай бұрын
Thanks
@kevinwilkey2494
@kevinwilkey2494 6 ай бұрын
I am trying to build a double 10 audio pipe low bass subwoofer box how can you help me with measurement
@davidteague3849
@davidteague3849 Жыл бұрын
Use the cultist application. Lay out your panels to minimize fence changes and check them off as you go
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
👍
@mullinperformanceaudio5902
@mullinperformanceaudio5902 Жыл бұрын
While being a little gimmicky, I have been using flex seal on the inside of my box. Just spray along the inside the box and let it sit. A lot less messy than silicone that I always make a mess with.
@BassDad
@BassDad Жыл бұрын
Me too, really helps too. That stuff is amazing.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
I'm going to have to give that a try.
@massivehertz3869
@massivehertz3869 Жыл бұрын
That is a great idea, I hate using caulk. Thanks for the advice!
@One-Crazy-Cat
@One-Crazy-Cat Жыл бұрын
And it will hold a boat with 80 holes up in water. Lol.
@codyh5232
@codyh5232 Жыл бұрын
But does it increase flex? Seems like false advertisement lol.
@jasonwelborn1903
@jasonwelborn1903 Жыл бұрын
Hey brother...your videos are very informative and helpful...thank you for the content...anyway you would be willing to mock up a dual sub enclosure with a slotted port in the center...subs and port front firing...thanks for the consideration
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
bit.ly/3IwIJLb
@Echo3_
@Echo3_ 3 ай бұрын
it's not preachy if you're right. you're good bro! thank you for the help!
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 3 ай бұрын
Good point
@shaunheckerman6974
@shaunheckerman6974 6 ай бұрын
Has anyone ever noticed how this guy looks like Captain Spaulding?
@walterbkeen
@walterbkeen 9 ай бұрын
Own both a Bosch contractor saw, and the Kreg Rip Cut. Use them both as follows. The Kreg Rip Cut is actually much better to break down larger sheet stock than a Contractor Table Saw. And also much safer. Once the 4x8 sheet is broken down. the table saw takes over with the smaller cuts. Contractor Table Saws, and Cabinet Saws are not the same...
@woofer2121
@woofer2121 Жыл бұрын
I thought the mistake was not putting the port in the middle for 2 woofers. The pressure will be uneven.
@matthewokusu5971
@matthewokusu5971 8 ай бұрын
I'm in Ghana and I want to learn how to make line arrays speakers. Any program online available?
@MrDanielknew
@MrDanielknew Жыл бұрын
Hey have you ever tested different depths behind the woofer in an enclosure but still using same internal volume. Basically using a rectangular box and placing the driver on different panels. I’ve heard claims of increasing back pressure and also claims that it won’t change.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Conventional wisdom is that it does not make any difference, I don't know if anyone's ever actually tested that conventional wisdom.
@dreieinhalbeck
@dreieinhalbeck Жыл бұрын
Another Tip for easier box building that I learned the hard way: don't create complex shapes with triangles and wird angles. I did it and it cost me an extra 15 hrs. compared to an easy layout. In my case it was Wörth it since I absolutely wanted a sub that distributes bass evenly im my entire room ( tried it with another sub and ideal position was in a corner with 18° angled sideways and 11° angled upwards.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@dreieinhalbeck
@dreieinhalbeck Жыл бұрын
I should probably clarify: I've got a roof slope in my room that works like a horn, thats why the angle was chosen so precisely, as to maximize the horn effect. The sideway tilt is there because on the other side of the room there is a big wardrobe vwith a bookshelf (with books) that acts as a bass trap. I could have just put the sub to the opposite site of the wardrobe, however, for a single sub using a corner is better to fill my room. For 99.9% of people out there, going to such lengths is NOT necessary. It's just the layout of my room that allows me to take advantage of such a complex box design.
@blakepulliam3205
@blakepulliam3205 Жыл бұрын
I work at cabinet shop and Thank God for a panel saw.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Those are handy!
@NirvanaWoodWorksbyJanie
@NirvanaWoodWorksbyJanie Жыл бұрын
Super interesting! Perfect timing as well since I'm going to build a portable bluetooth speaker here soon. On that note, do you have a video explaining what kind of drivers would be best suitable for the type or size of enclosure you're using and what size of drivers you should use, i.e what size of speakers, tweeters, midrange, full range, woofers or subwoofers? If not buying/using a kit? Thanks for the video. Super helpful!!
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
I do not, it would probably take a big long series of videos to flush all that out.
@NirvanaWoodWorksbyJanie
@NirvanaWoodWorksbyJanie Жыл бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy ahh, makes sense. Thanks and HNY to you and yours 😊
@madhawadhamsika5421
@madhawadhamsika5421 Жыл бұрын
dear friend need a help with a 10"x6.5"'x18" box. what is the suitable sub speaker size and amount for this, plz advise
@SoManyChildren
@SoManyChildren 10 ай бұрын
When you cut on a straight line you start by 5” in and drop the saw blade down on the line and back cut then you have a straight cut
@themafia3119
@themafia3119 Жыл бұрын
What's the best subwoofer box build programme to use?
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
This: parts-express.sjv.io/do4Bg7 or This: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r8B-mLxzvq22e58.html
@mattb7895
@mattb7895 Жыл бұрын
Also, if you have to reset your fence, use a piece that's already cut to size and place it against the blade and move the fence till the wood is touching the blade and fence.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
🧠💪
@texanpride1979
@texanpride1979 Жыл бұрын
Do design for people that want to build their own enclosure?
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
bit.ly/3IwIJLb
@izakjoubert1959
@izakjoubert1959 6 ай бұрын
Good day, may I ask if I can use a damping material in a speakerbox. It is a foam substance and I put in the back to bounce the sound off. It does have a full sound and not a tin sound. What do you recommend, the speakers are small and not to big to use in my vehicle. I don't like mounting them in my vehicle, they are set in places that they can't move around.
@shawnsanderson3695
@shawnsanderson3695 Жыл бұрын
On those smaller Box builds you should be able to consider the height measurement 1st since most of the pieces We'll be that same measurement. Basically just making 1 or Is to full Length rips
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Yep
@BassDad
@BassDad Жыл бұрын
Welcome back!
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years.
@BassDad
@BassDad Жыл бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy alright LL
@trecedaves3159
@trecedaves3159 Жыл бұрын
Little tip not related to cuts, down load a good box calculator. I see tons and tons of mistakes form hand drawn plans for your tune. The calculator you can make small or large changes to get your tune were you want it before ever making a cut. Kicker has a good one I personally use the ct sounds one. Both are free.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@1ohmwrecker
@1ohmwrecker Жыл бұрын
Good thing about the side port boxes is you can make a more narrow (less wide) box to fit a bigger box in the trunk. I could only fit a 4.5cf box in mine. It's front subs and port. But I think if I went w side port, I coulda fit a 5.0cf box?🤷‍♂️
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Good point.
@Fooshj
@Fooshj Жыл бұрын
Hey mate, love your vids, I'm looking into building a sub box and I have a questions regarding Amplifier placement, I notice alot of the designs out there on the internet look like designs for passive speakers. If I were to add a plate amp to the Sub Box itself, do I need to take into account how much volume it takes up inside the box and adjust the box size accordingly? I've also considered a fake wall in the back to preserve the volume of the box however the box size is becoming impractical. 18" Driver and a dayton SPA1000 plate amp.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Yes, TOIDS DIY recommends partitioning off the enclosure so that the amp is in a separate chamber.
@TheCalvinSkinner
@TheCalvinSkinner Жыл бұрын
GRADE A advise! thanks
@IloveRoblox215
@IloveRoblox215 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I really appreciate you taking the time to make video’s like this one. I am in the process of putting together a stereo system and wanted to give building the box for the two subwoofers that I own. The box they’re in now is to shallow making the subwoofers to not seat. I also want the box to be the proper size for the particular subs that I have. Having said that I have two questions if you don’t mind giving me your advice I would really appreciate it. Now I have two JL Audio 10w6v3’s what wood do you recommend I use and do you recommend a sealed box or ported? Again any recommendations and advice to help me out with my journey I’d highly appreciate. Thanks
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
If you can afford JL then I recommend that you have a local shop build a custom box.
@IloveRoblox215
@IloveRoblox215 Жыл бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy I can afford to have a shop make it but I have been into car Audio since before I could even drive watching my older brothers. Now I’m 36 and building a box is something I have really been wanting to do for quite some time now. But thanks for your advice!
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
@@IloveRoblox215 I totally get that. Best advice is to download winisd and do it all from scratch.
@psycho-nutkase9233
@psycho-nutkase9233 Жыл бұрын
The Trick to a circular saw straight cut by free hand is to move at a moderate fast pace while cutting. I do how ever use a metal ruler clamped for a guide if I'm cutting to do a top off line on say fence gate. 🙃
@kyoz1984
@kyoz1984 Жыл бұрын
Planning on building a box for 2 Visaton FR8s to fit into a model tank. The space im working with is very tight, and the boxes will only be 1 1/2x the size of the speakers. Is there any benefits to port them? Or will I sealed box be easier?
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
It is hard to get loud and low bass out of a speaker that small, and out of a small enclosure. A port will help, but small boxes require very long ports. So either go sealed or look into using a passive radiator.
@richardgordon9649
@richardgordon9649 Жыл бұрын
If you are going to make many boxes and want to do this on a regular basis, the track saw is the way to go leaps and bounds above a table saw. And by far most accurate if you can measure with a tape measure. No man handling the sheets just lay the track from the track saw on the sheet and cut with the saw. Festool and Makita both make great saws and the tracks are interchangeable too. Work smarter not harder!
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
A track saw is a good idea.
@jero1820
@jero1820 7 ай бұрын
Measure once. Cut several times. Meaning creep up on your perfect cut. Than you’ll have the perfect cut.
@neatt3815
@neatt3815 Жыл бұрын
I should really get myself a circular saw all I've ever used is a jigsaw 😂
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
That might make life a lot easier.
@bogosikereng5963
@bogosikereng5963 Жыл бұрын
What software do you use to design the subwoofer boxes
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
WinISD and Sketchup
@thomascampbell8064
@thomascampbell8064 Жыл бұрын
I've built about 50 boxes with a circular saw . He is right in a speaker box is much more precise if you can cut within a 1/32nd you have to cut another board . It's really closer to 1/40 th on an inch for tolerance. PL glue is your friend, it's cheap .
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
I have never used PL, I know some people swear by it.
@a807511
@a807511 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't use silicone to seal boxes. Wood glue or wood construction adhesive only. Silicone sealants have solvents that offgas as it cures. The solvent fumes can soften the varnish on your coils when they get hot and cause premature failure. You can use it, but wait a full day or more to put your subs in the box after building/sealing it. Then blow it out good first.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Good point! I should have mentioned that in the video. You absolutely need to let the silicone cure so you don't mess up your speakers.
@wally7856
@wally7856 Жыл бұрын
PL Premium construction adhesive (regular 3x) is all I use to build boxes (and I build a lot of them). It expands as it cures to fill joints airtight (so has to be clamped or brad nailed to hold the boards in place or else the expansion will move them out of alignment). Your cuts can all be 1/8" (or larger) off and it'll bridge that gap no problem as it is very thick, solves all sorts of cutting sins. Use lots so you get good squeeze out on every joint and you'll be airtight. Don't clean up the squeeze out right away, you'll make a BIG mess. Instead, leave it and wait about 6-8 hours for it to set up but still not fully hard and then you can easily scrape the squeeze out off CLEANLY with a scraper or chisel or even a 2" drywall putty knife. If you get the timing right you'll have very clean looking joints. Don't wait too long or it'll become quite difficult to remove once it fully hardens. PL premium also creates as an incredibly strong joint after fully cured as it is a polyurethane adhesive. I build touring subwoofer boxes that are only held together by PL Premium, no screws or any other fasteners and these are 260 lb+ boxes that get tossed around on and off the truck after every show and they hold up no problem. Oh ya, wear gloves or your hands will be black for a week.
@johnhopson6661
@johnhopson6661 Жыл бұрын
I see a lot of people using plywood in videos now , I’ve always used MDF , but I’m in California so not much moisture in the air , is there some new data about Mdf vs plywood? Or is it still a preference or is it just a southern thing like Florida where the humidity is high the wood stays together?
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
It think it is just a style/preference thing and plywood is trendy now. BUT! Very few people are using real Baltic Birch. You can't just walk into Home Depot and buy that stuff.
@electricslide8469
@electricslide8469 11 ай бұрын
Noob question... do I subtract the volume of a pvc port from the volume of the enclosure the same as subtracting the displacement of the driver?
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 11 ай бұрын
Yes! Make sure you use the outside diameter of the PVC.
@electricslide8469
@electricslide8469 11 ай бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy thank you!
@toniserenvert7919
@toniserenvert7919 3 ай бұрын
There is always an option to give the needed measures of each part to someone who works with tablesaws😊.
@A6Legit
@A6Legit Жыл бұрын
Gotta love shop time when it's 30°F
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Yep.
@st170ish
@st170ish Жыл бұрын
Its better than 120°F like summer here
@lillnemo1
@lillnemo1 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Which program did you use for designing the 3d?
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
SketchUp
@dcuccia
@dcuccia Жыл бұрын
Great tips! @6:50 to be that guy - if you care, it's sili-cone (the goo), not sili-con (the crystal material/element).
@thomasstott527
@thomasstott527 Жыл бұрын
box face and back should always cap encloser making the box strong for woofers... that is great advise... but.... port should always be on the same side as woofer....for best acoustic coupling... but the side is the next best choice... but take the extra time and try and put in on the front where the woofer is mounted...
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
👍
@GerritTjaardAMarinus
@GerritTjaardAMarinus Жыл бұрын
Show this video first when a shop cuts your wood !! 👍👍👍
@BrandonBuckaudioanarchy
@BrandonBuckaudioanarchy Жыл бұрын
I don't disagree that the fewer number of cut setups possible is a good idea but I wouldn't prioritize it over structural integrity. For instance, on a double baffle. The inner baffle should always be an inside board, such that the sides, top and bottom attach to its end. Then the second baffle layer should overlay that such that it creates a herring boned joint on all sides of the double baffle. This creates a much stronger joint partly because it increases the surface area of the joint and partly because it creates both sheer and tensile stress on the joinery. When I build an enclosure, the top and bottom (or front and back) will be the same size and every other panel in the build will be the same dimension in one direction. And with center ports, you'll have two of each panel in both dimensions. And there are more advantages to center ported enclosures. The center port creates a brace in the center of the enclosure, which is very important, but I see a lot of guys building enclosures with two subs in them and the port is all the way to one end or the other. You're throwing away a free center brace when you do that and, if you lose a sub while playing, it doesn't put as much stress on the one that's still playing. If you have straight cuts and good wood glue there is NEVER a reason for caulk of any kind. But if you must, silicone is just about the worst thing you can use. Silicone sticks to nothing... not even itself. If you need caulk, use painters caulk. It doesn't stink, it's much easier to clean up and it actually bonds to wood. And last, if you're using MDF, don't use screws. I won't even use them on plywood but it is especially important to avoid them with MDF because they will split the wood and weaken it. And the only way to avoid this splitting is to predrill the holes so large that the threads don't engage the material. I've built everything from simple computer speakers to 40kW SPL builds and I never use screws in the end of a panel. Also, keep any fastener 2" from the end of a panel. I know it seems like you're doing good by putting them all the way to the corner but all that really does is split the material in two directions. This comes from a manufacturer's instruction on MDF, not from my personal experience but only because I happened to read it in 1990 or so when I built my first enclosure from MDF. Before then we used particle board, which isn't fun to work with at all, lol.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Great advice.
@danielm6507
@danielm6507 7 ай бұрын
Agreed! I plan on using dowels for mine.
@shawnmccalmon1052
@shawnmccalmon1052 Жыл бұрын
Hi I have 8 6" speakers I have 4 mid-range and 4 vice and I want a make one box to accommodate all the speakers for my home system can you send me a diagram and measurement to build one thank you
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
You will need an internal crossover network for that. Those can be complicated so I charge quite a bit to design them. I recommend that you join TOIDS DIY forum, they can help.
@SilmarilS79
@SilmarilS79 Жыл бұрын
Just clamp a bubble level as your guide for the skill saw...
@skorlano5661
@skorlano5661 Жыл бұрын
Best way to cut without a table saw is a circular handsaw with a rail, festool, makita or milwaukee, any of them
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Tracksaw
@chux11379
@chux11379 Жыл бұрын
You would be the greatest neighbor in the world especially bc I'm almost 50.#OldSchoolBump
@russellcrabtree5314
@russellcrabtree5314 Жыл бұрын
Do the bracing with the cutouts block airflow to the port? Does the bracing also conflict with the air pressure of the subwoofer when the air goes to and from the port?
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Not at all.
@russellcrabtree5314
@russellcrabtree5314 Жыл бұрын
That's weird. I'm a 25 year HVAC Journeyman and bracing like that would cause air restriction, but I guess the air behind the subwoofer doesn't get any friction from the bracing as air would in a sealed duct system. Hmm
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
@@russellcrabtree5314 it's a little different situation.
@russellcrabtree5314
@russellcrabtree5314 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm
@dahustus2442
@dahustus2442 3 ай бұрын
Just throwing this out there for anyone willing to help. I've been trying to decide on what system i want in my car. The main problem im having is deciding on what size sub i want. Im between 2 12s and 2 15s both running 600w rms. The question i mainly have is what size and tuning frequency i should go for if i want a box to play low and still be musical. Any help or advice would be very appreciated.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 3 ай бұрын
The box is going to be quite large. 4. Cubic feet, perhaps larger with a pair of 12s, even larger with a pair of 15s.
@dahustus2442
@dahustus2442 3 ай бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy Any advice on tuning frequency?
@gsxroyce256
@gsxroyce256 6 ай бұрын
I just aero ports to keep it simple for me
@pyschreaper8605
@pyschreaper8605 Жыл бұрын
is the software you used free??
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
They offer a free version.
@DCBChump
@DCBChump Жыл бұрын
Screws are not just for beginners. I've been building boxes for 25 years and I still use screws whenever possible.
@j4vl3r
@j4vl3r 4 ай бұрын
Siempre compro la madera cortada
@scarce911
@scarce911 Жыл бұрын
Some people ...... free air is sounding like an option right now
@poohwecampbell7799
@poohwecampbell7799 Жыл бұрын
Do make custom boxes ??? Please say you and have a way to order for me !!???
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
I do not, shipping is a big pain so I don't do it.
@trentonanderson720
@trentonanderson720 Жыл бұрын
Can you help me design a sub box?
@hypercaster
@hypercaster Жыл бұрын
hi, what software are you using on illustration?
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
SketchUp
@hypercaster
@hypercaster Жыл бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy Thanks 😊
@LeeLee-fi7mx
@LeeLee-fi7mx Жыл бұрын
I find the easiest and most accurate way to cut wood for an enclosure is to let my hardware store do it. Most hardware or lumber yards where you buy wood from offer cutting services with equipment far more precise than what a typical homeowner has. Sometimes there's no extra charge to make the cuts.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Both Home Depot and Lowes in my area will do two cuts with their panel saw free of charge. The accuracy is entirely a function of the employee running the saw.
@MannyGunzz
@MannyGunzz Жыл бұрын
Slow is best take your time... But enough glue and screws it will still work..
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