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Echo Trimmer Repair - How to replace the Piston Ring

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@baddad5781
@baddad5781 4 жыл бұрын
You always make these repairs so easy to understand. You make me look like a small engine expert to my family. Thank you.
@jonathanrodriguez1185
@jonathanrodriguez1185 4 жыл бұрын
I really like how detailed your video was. But in my opinion, if you’re only aiming for the piston ring, just take off spark plug wire, the top cover, the intake (leave intake off to the side with wires and hoses still connected) and you should be able to pull the head right off with the coil and exhaust still on. Switch out the ring, lube, and reverse. No need to separate the engine from the assembly. But that’s just how I do it.
@mikeclement5383
@mikeclement5383 2 жыл бұрын
Also how I do it.
@glennfarrar3107
@glennfarrar3107 2 жыл бұрын
How do you compress rings to get them in?
@mikeclement5383
@mikeclement5383 2 жыл бұрын
@@glennfarrar3107 I used a piece of plastic from a bleach container. Cut a strip, wrapped it around the ring, pulled tight by tabs I made. Just bending the ends of the plastic at approximately 90 degrees. Then you can keep pressure on it so it slides in. Oil it up real good. I like assembly lube.
@glennfarrar3107
@glennfarrar3107 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeclement5383 thanks, my piston ring clamp is to big so this idea will help, also just been told about "pegs in ring grooves". Once again thanks
@glennfarrar3107
@glennfarrar3107 2 жыл бұрын
Which side does the arrow on top of piston face?
@gokartmadness3047
@gokartmadness3047 5 жыл бұрын
7:41 it’s like a baby piston got born when it slid out lol
@rustychrome
@rustychrome 7 жыл бұрын
While a well made and thorough video. Aside from draining all the fuel for safety and less mess, I found you only need to remove the plastic shield, unscrew the carb and leave it hanging. Pop off the spark plug wire, then the 2 screws to remove the cylinder to have access to the piston. I don't even remove the muffler or spark plug.
@davidn7310
@davidn7310 6 жыл бұрын
Confirm your finding! I have to admit Echo is very well design and simple for maintenance. No wonder they sell millions of these trimmer around the world!
@KrKrypton
@KrKrypton 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't even remove the carb. Carb and exhaust still attached. The plug I pulled just so that I can test for resistance in the rotating assembly, make sure the bearings are good and I lubed it sufficiently.
@Jim-ie6uf
@Jim-ie6uf 5 жыл бұрын
Good tip!
@DennisNarayan
@DennisNarayan 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for such a detailed explanation. I followed your steps nd was able to repair my brush cutter by muself...luckily, parts were available at my local store. God bless you guys 😊
@BedazzledChanclas
@BedazzledChanclas 3 жыл бұрын
That lil piston is so cute man 🥺
@Lightworks1111
@Lightworks1111 4 жыл бұрын
What a great video. Clear and professional. Step by step. Thanks!
@arturos.l.2248
@arturos.l.2248 7 ай бұрын
Replacing a piston ring on an Echo weedeater involves several steps. Keep in mind that it's a detailed process, and if you're not comfortable with small engine repair, it's advisable to seek professional help. Here's a general guide: Safety first: Ensure the weedeater is turned off, and disconnect the spark plug to prevent accidental starts. Disassembly: Remove the engine cover, spark plug, and muffler. This will give you access to the cylinder. Remove the cylinder: Loosen and remove the bolts securing the cylinder to the engine. Gently lift the cylinder away, exposing the piston. Remove the old piston ring: Carefully take out the old piston ring. You may need to use a small pick or screwdriver to help lift it out. Clean the piston and cylinder: Wipe the piston and cylinder clean from any debris or carbon buildup. Make sure both surfaces are smooth. Install the new piston ring: Carefully slide the new piston ring onto the piston. Pay attention to the orientation specified by the manufacturer. Check and lubricate: Ensure all parts are securely fastened. Add a small amount of 2-stroke engine oil to the cylinder and piston to lubricate them. Reassemble: Put the cylinder back in place and secure it with the bolts. Reattach the engine cover, spark plug, and muffler. Test: Reconnect the spark plug, start the weedeater, and check for proper operation. Listen for any unusual sounds or vibrations. If you're unsure or uncomfortable with any step, it's recommended to consult the user manual for your specific model or seek assistance from a professional technician.
@effinog
@effinog 2 ай бұрын
Thanks. Excellent and clear instruction video. There is no need to torque the cylinder screws down? Subscribed.
@Isaac-47517
@Isaac-47517 2 ай бұрын
what is the ohm spec tolerance of the coil? What is the piston ring tolerance up to the point where crank pulse is too weak to push and pull fuel from the carb? And, will not replacing the head gasket , if it has visible wear just at the bolt holes, after pulling the head lower the crank pressure such that hard starting or no starting occurs?
@seabass22
@seabass22 4 жыл бұрын
So much easier than the Troy bilt I worked on. Had to pretty much disassemble the entire thing to fix the pull rope. I just use it for the pole saw and have an echo trimmer. I’ll be buying another echo when the time comes. Or going electric.
@adrianbadea1179
@adrianbadea1179 4 жыл бұрын
You forget to clean the piston.. I'm always clean the piston head and groove.. Next time use a piston groove cleaner... And clean the cylinder as well.. Good job 👍
@twinx2982
@twinx2982 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I get a gasket for 125l husqvarna weedeater not carb gasket
@chanhducphung2826
@chanhducphung2826 7 жыл бұрын
Thank so much for your nice details video
@ket451
@ket451 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so so much I've been trying to take the clutch off for too long now
@dntlss
@dntlss 4 жыл бұрын
I am restoring a old weedeater right now and the engine is actually in really good shape, i thought about putting a new set of rings, when i went to price them they wanted 35 dollars for them,lol, not gonna happen, they should be 15 dollars for the pair if that, im trying to find alternative or maybe a different brand, no rush at all on it,just a little fun project.
@kevinbyrne4538
@kevinbyrne4538 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done, sir. (I just wish that you'd started the engine at the end of the video.)
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 Жыл бұрын
Well done and not a waste of time Thank You’ll
@noidle22
@noidle22 3 жыл бұрын
Why the hell would you remove the flywheel and starter pawl to change a piston ring? On that note, if you're not changing the cylinder, you don't even need to take anything off. Just undo the two head bolts and remove everything at once. Also you didn't torque the head bolts upon reassembly nor mention that this needs to be done. Seems like a vital piece of information that was missed. For anyone who wants to know, Echo's spec for these bolts are 60-85in/lb.
@ejlsa18
@ejlsa18 8 ай бұрын
Thankyou for the torque specs!😃
@bell-architects
@bell-architects 27 күн бұрын
Is it a workable solution to just do the ring without changing the piston head? Struggling to find our Kawasaki piston…
@raulcampos441
@raulcampos441 4 жыл бұрын
I have problem with my srm 210 a lot of smoke comes out changing the ring will solve the problem thanks for. the video
@Isaac-47517
@Isaac-47517 Ай бұрын
installed new ring and cylinder gasket and still only pulls 45psi for pas 225. the ring takes a bit of effort to seat, about like whats in the video... but maybe the upper portion of head is egged?
@reidsmith3002
@reidsmith3002 6 жыл бұрын
It must be nice to be able to remain so called during this process. I'd be throwing wrenches and sockets at walls probably
@JNLink80
@JNLink80 5 жыл бұрын
Along with saying every curse word known to man.
@seabass22
@seabass22 4 жыл бұрын
This isn’t bad at all. It’s a better design than most!
@dntlss
@dntlss 4 жыл бұрын
@@seabass22 Not really sure what they meant by those comments,there is nothing to taking this thing apart and putting it back together,guess they have never taken a Auto trans apart,lol
@seabass22
@seabass22 4 жыл бұрын
dntlss I haven’t taken an auto trans apart either lol.
@dntlss
@dntlss 4 жыл бұрын
@@seabass22 Check this out,this is a older one, the new ones have twice as many parts, ha ha ha ha www.scribd.com/doc/73686489/AOD-Transmission-Schematic
@anrivera1975
@anrivera1975 Жыл бұрын
Need help with an issue inhave with my husqvarna trimmer 128ld. I changed the cylinder and piston, i also calibrate the magnets in the flywheel, I have a conpression of 100psi, new spark plug(sparks good), new carb, new fuel lines. It wont start. Any ideas?
@dailydoseofcancer5517
@dailydoseofcancer5517 6 жыл бұрын
*let's get started*
@miguelramos2213
@miguelramos2213 Жыл бұрын
Great video !!!! Thank you 😎
@davidswarbrick9645
@davidswarbrick9645 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please give me the number off the piston ring so I can get one and thanks 👍 for your help
@DennisNarayan
@DennisNarayan 3 жыл бұрын
At first I ws scared to open the piston section of the engine ... as i needed to change the seal, replace gaskets, clean the pistonhead and engine head where spark plug sits... my brush cutter lost its compression and switched off itself. But now its running like new 😊😊
@markharris4260
@markharris4260 Жыл бұрын
Either I missed it or , you didn't clean the piston gap where the new ring goes ? Was it already clean ? No carbon fouling ? Why take it all apart if your not going to replace the crankcase seals ? You can gap the magneto with the crankcase still bolted to the clutch cover and you didn't check yhe exhaust screen for carbon fouling ? Not being a smart butt or anything just curious ? Also why remove the carburetor at all ?
@northseacowboy
@northseacowboy 2 жыл бұрын
Very clear and helpful. Thanks
@henrikjonsson4340
@henrikjonsson4340 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I wonder one thing about the piston-ring. Does it have to be loosen 100% or 80% to work properly? Is it also a scratch-mark where on the piston where the ring can not move pass left or right of the scratch-mark with the opening of the piston ring, does it stop circulate at the piston at the scratch-mark? How can you see if the piston-ring is bad or wornout?
@yomomma2401
@yomomma2401 4 жыл бұрын
Can u tell me what piston rings I need for a srm-210 echo. Or the cheapest replacement for the machine
@RGIIIBOXING
@RGIIIBOXING 3 жыл бұрын
Every one always wants the cheapest...reaserch the part based off your manual part numbers" sure you don't want to over spend on parts"...but you don't want to buy a part that could brake inside the head" and cause damage" That piston ring is the life of the 25.4cc Engine..Then the carburetor" if you don't have compression or lack there of" The until want run correctly" all because of the best known word to man ( Cheap )...Your Oil/ lubrication mix with 89% octane to produce your 50 to 1 Ratio" The screen inside the exhaust port" The gasket / Filter inside the housing for the carburetor" ..I know a few people that use the Pass/ SHC 266 For the last 10/15 yrs...And that trimmer sounds like a Yamaha dirt bike...Cool! ***🏆***
@ezequielmaldonado5547
@ezequielmaldonado5547 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know how much will it cost to put a new cylinder and piston kit on my echo 225 weed eater...parts n labor .. thank you .. Ezequiel
@renalynrayah9660
@renalynrayah9660 11 ай бұрын
What size ur piston and piston ring
@eddymofo3359
@eddymofo3359 7 жыл бұрын
Nice work m8
@pennykeeley6042
@pennykeeley6042 7 жыл бұрын
You did show how to remove the broken part of the shaft.
@zoltizolti3165
@zoltizolti3165 2 жыл бұрын
possible update trimmer echo 16 cc cilinder to 22 cc or 30 cc ??
@jonnysnipes3123
@jonnysnipes3123 4 жыл бұрын
Will an srm 225 piston fit in an srm 210?
@filippoorlando1548
@filippoorlando1548 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think so
@luckyduck4307
@luckyduck4307 5 жыл бұрын
sowhat happens when the piston will notline upand go backin chamber correctly without forcing it. Im upthe creek
@raheemmyrie2342
@raheemmyrie2342 2 жыл бұрын
I have one I want to fix it
@David-st8te
@David-st8te 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Look easy take all apart. I won’t be able to put everything back. I leave it to the professional OR buy a new one cheaper than get it repair. Lol.
@JohnWilliams-rl3rl
@JohnWilliams-rl3rl 7 жыл бұрын
I followed all the steps and it still won't start. Getting good spark, used a in line spark tester. My compression gauge is reading 30, but I don't think it is correct. I put my finger over the spark plug hole and felt like it was enough to push my finger off. I tried starter fluid also and couldn't get it to start. Could a plugged exhaust cause it not to start? I may need to take it apart and see if I assembled it wrong. I am just worried about putting to much money into it , because it will be cheaper to replace. It is an Echo SRM-210 over 10 years old. Any suggestions?
@FixDotCom
@FixDotCom 7 жыл бұрын
If all of your electrical components check out okay. It sounds like you may have fuel delivery problems. This would mean that you would either have to rebuild the carburetor, tune it up or replace it. We do have videos on these repairs on our KZfaq channel. Here are the links to them:kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iMyqrbea0dfbn2Q.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o9SiibWSr82mknU.html
@shibilymohamedali
@shibilymohamedali 4 жыл бұрын
Good presentation 😊👍
@amilkarcamacho6084
@amilkarcamacho6084 6 жыл бұрын
You don't have to detach the engine from the frame only for a piston ring replacement. With the plier that's how you break a clutch and a recoil paul ratchet. There's pistons stops and and tools to do that without risk. This is a job that takes just 15 min.
@omarcisneros9309
@omarcisneros9309 7 жыл бұрын
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@thankyou1771
@thankyou1771 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Kawasaki brush cutter and I replaced the piston and rings and did not have to remove the clutch or the cover why was that necessary in this video
@philstat100
@philstat100 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@robert-mx3gi
@robert-mx3gi 6 жыл бұрын
need help got a Titan-TTL530GBC it as a spark compression is good and replaced the carb fuel lines but it will not fire up only thing i can see if when you look through exhaust side piston as scratch's on it please help thanks
@ntokozolwazimkhonza7744
@ntokozolwazimkhonza7744 Жыл бұрын
Good morning good morning sir help how to fix corporate
@JasonSmith-qx3zh
@JasonSmith-qx3zh 7 жыл бұрын
whats going on when you feel the piston hitting the spark plug . Remove the spark plug and it then it pull smooth this happen after cleaning the carb after it would only run in full choke??
@FixDotCom
@FixDotCom 7 жыл бұрын
Rebuilding the carburetor shouldn't have caused any of your problem. I've seen this happen when the repair person replaced the plug and the new plug has a longer electrode or if the needle valve is stuck open and fills the cylinder with gas.
@seabass22
@seabass22 4 жыл бұрын
Fix.com I know this is old but I have a trimmer that did what you said. Filled with gas and locked up. Right after I put a cheap replacement carb on. Is it better to rebuild the carbs? Can’t remember but believe I robbed a different carb off another one I had lying around afterwards and it runs fine. Would replacing piston ring get some power back possibly?
@ericericeric1469
@ericericeric1469 5 жыл бұрын
Good video!
@im-that-guy-pal
@im-that-guy-pal Жыл бұрын
You don't have to take everything apart to do the job.
@kennethhamilton8924
@kennethhamilton8924 Жыл бұрын
that is true did it myself took about 20 mins
@jaylongonzalez4062
@jaylongonzalez4062 Жыл бұрын
I think I’ll just buy a new weed eater. Thanks.
@tmoney8203
@tmoney8203 4 жыл бұрын
Good vid, keep it up
@the497jepthal
@the497jepthal 8 жыл бұрын
Replacing the piston ring makes a great video but my experience is that the trimmer still will not run. Whatever destroyed the first piston ring also destroyed the piston and the cylinder and replacing the ring will not fix the problem.. Give the trimmer a big heave and get a new one.
@EvolveandHeal
@EvolveandHeal 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, very detailed. Thanks!
@tonym6920
@tonym6920 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, j have that exact trimmer, lol. Not a repair for the faint of heart though. Just curious, what type of screwdrivers did you use. I know the screws are not normal Philips. Thanks!
@FixDotCom
@FixDotCom 8 жыл бұрын
These screw are called Torx Screws. I believe this size for these bolts was a "T25". These Torx Drivers come in a variety of sizes.
@nunnaurbzznzzz1734
@nunnaurbzznzzz1734 3 жыл бұрын
@Joe Brone I got a T-27 bit and it won't even go into the T screw head. If your T-27 is worn, it may go into the T-25 screwhead. It may also bind up as the worn angle meets up with the splines in the T-25 screwhead. That may be why your T-27 fits a bit better.
@ntokozolwazimkhonza7744
@ntokozolwazimkhonza7744 Жыл бұрын
I think it we're supposed to go straight to the cylinder
@leelafarlett3535
@leelafarlett3535 6 жыл бұрын
Why did you put a new flywheel on it?
@FixDotCom
@FixDotCom 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Lee, the technician did not replace the flywheel. He did however reset the gap between the ignition module and the flywheel magnets. This should be done when you remove the flywheel.
@tier3rd375
@tier3rd375 3 жыл бұрын
It was a cut taken from an actual flywheel replacement video. When he got to the part of installing the flywheel, they used a cut from a video of him actually replacing the flywheel. Go to 5:45 of this video and you'll see it is the exact same clip m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aL6ogq2TzZ68goU.html
@PinprickSociety
@PinprickSociety 8 жыл бұрын
Is the carb isolator there to prevent the carburetor from getting too hot?
@FixDotCom
@FixDotCom 8 жыл бұрын
The isolator is there to help keep the carb and fuel cool.
@murphballstom4595
@murphballstom4595 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I might as well buy a new edger my goodness
@damonclayton4275
@damonclayton4275 2 жыл бұрын
My flywheel doesn’t pop off like that
@reidsmith3002
@reidsmith3002 6 жыл бұрын
How much does torque spec matter with these small engines?
@FixDotCom
@FixDotCom 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Reid, if you need to know what the torque specs are on the machine you are working on, I would suggest to go online and search for the manual for that specific model. Most of the time they will have the specs in them.
@zekemchenry2368
@zekemchenry2368 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! What size Torx are they?
@FixDotCom
@FixDotCom 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Zeke, thanks for your question. The size of Torx screw may differ on individual leaf blowers. If you send us your model number, I may be able to help you find the right size!
@nunnaurbzznzzz1734
@nunnaurbzznzzz1734 5 жыл бұрын
The 125L I have uses 25T. You will need a 2 inch bit or a 25T screwdriver.
@nunnaurbzznzzz1734
@nunnaurbzznzzz1734 3 жыл бұрын
@Joe Brone I got a T-27 bit and it won't even go into the T screw head. If your T-27 is worn, it may go into the T-25 screwhead. It may also bind up as the worn angle meets up with the splines in the T-25 screwhead. That may be why your T-27 fits a bit better.
@jonashworth7126
@jonashworth7126 7 жыл бұрын
Can someone please give some advice. I replaced the piston but when I put the screws back in to the case the piston doesn't move anymore. It only happens once I tighten one of the screws. What am I doing wrong and how can I fix it
@FixDotCom
@FixDotCom 7 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the screws your talking about are the ones that that hold the Head onto the crankcase. Right? If so, does the piston seem bound up or like it's hitting the top of the Head. if it is bound up does tightening both screws equally help the issue?
@jonashworth7126
@jonashworth7126 7 жыл бұрын
Fix.com Fix.com I already thought about trying that but no combination seems to help. I can screw one really tight and no problem but the other makes the piston not move once it is barely tight. If I keep both screws loose the piston makes a knocking sound on every 2nd stroke and that only happens when the spark plug is fully screwed in. If the spark plug is unscrewed it doesn't knock. The gasket is in good shape so I don't know what can fix it.
@FixDotCom
@FixDotCom 7 жыл бұрын
If the piston and rod are the same lengths as the old one I wouldn't think that to be the problem. There's certainly and issue with the head room for the piston whether it's the rod and piston length or the length of the spark plug. You say once the plug is removed the knocking noise stops. Does the motor turn freely with the plug removed? If so I wonder if the length of the plug is to long causing it to hit the piston. Did the plug get replaced recently?
@jonashworth7126
@jonashworth7126 7 жыл бұрын
I found the problem. When i full secured the piston case the magneto would get pressed against the plastic spinning part causing it not to turn. Once I adjusted the magneto hiegth the noise stopped and it works now. The only problem is when I give it throttle its almost like its flooding itself and gas is getting ejected from the exhaust. I think somehow too much gas is getting into the space where combustion happens. It also shakes excessively.
@nunnaurbzznzzz1734
@nunnaurbzznzzz1734 5 жыл бұрын
@@jonashworth7126 You need to get the correct socket screwdriver to adjust the carb. Somehow one of the screws got moved so it is running rich.
@reidsmith3002
@reidsmith3002 6 жыл бұрын
How do you source gaskets?
@FixDotCom
@FixDotCom 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Reid, if a manufacturer no longer supplies a gasket you need, most auto parts suppliers do carry different thicknesses of gasket material.
@jonathanmolina3529
@jonathanmolina3529 4 жыл бұрын
How the fuck can you put the cylinder back with so ease and I'm fucking struggling here about to throw the whole damn thing to the floor because the damn cylinder doesn't want to go in
@NaturalSelection-gn3nn
@NaturalSelection-gn3nn 5 жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time he says “now remove”
@dntlss
@dntlss 4 жыл бұрын
If you like that expression go watch someone remove a heater core in a car,you will hear "now remove" at least a couple of hundred times.
@goranpavlovic9051
@goranpavlovic9051 11 ай бұрын
Echo best 😂
@user-tg3vw4pd7j
@user-tg3vw4pd7j Ай бұрын
Beats steal no bs valves to adjust and there lighter
@lil_casperr3922
@lil_casperr3922 4 жыл бұрын
At this point just buy a new trimmer 😂
@shibilymohamedali
@shibilymohamedali 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@tier3rd375
@tier3rd375 3 жыл бұрын
It's actually not that difficult to replace. The ring can't be more than $10 and a new trimmer cost $200. With enough time and patience it is a doable repair. Of course you need to have the right tools to do this job.
@georgeperkins4171
@georgeperkins4171 3 жыл бұрын
Most of that is unnecessary for just pistion and head removal.
@kennethhamilton8924
@kennethhamilton8924 Жыл бұрын
true
@adrianbadea1179
@adrianbadea1179 4 жыл бұрын
You forget to add some oil in the crankshaft chamber 😏
@conner5611
@conner5611 3 жыл бұрын
Not needed it'll get oil from the gas/oil mix
@mightymightymightyman199
@mightymightymightyman199 3 жыл бұрын
I too like to use assembly lube. Even in a 2 stroke. Not a lot, just a thin coat.
@20SkyWatcher09
@20SkyWatcher09 2 ай бұрын
Why is it always so easy for someone on KZfaq to do things? But when I go to try to do it exactly the way you show it in the video it ain't happening dog
@watermelonwatermelon6513
@watermelonwatermelon6513 2 жыл бұрын
15:32 Deez nuts
@alexmaravilla2268
@alexmaravilla2268 4 жыл бұрын
The WWS special
@minadavi2349
@minadavi2349 6 жыл бұрын
roshan
@siriouslyapple
@siriouslyapple 5 жыл бұрын
simple no way....I would not try doing this...I'd rather buy a new one lol
@BluntForceTrauma666
@BluntForceTrauma666 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, ummmm...I dunno about using a razor blade to scrape _ANY_ gasket sealing surface. Being too aggressive or having a slip-up could easily scratch the soft aluminum and pretty much render the entire repair effort pointless. Bad crankcase seals on a two-stroke are a _bitch_ to diagnose. Better to use a plastic scraper...
@jasoncorp1525
@jasoncorp1525 Жыл бұрын
My shindaiwa t242 weed whip has 2 piston rings one right under the other separated by an 1/8"gap
@melvinthemechanic
@melvinthemechanic 4 жыл бұрын
Deez nutz 😂
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