I love how over a hundred year cycle we have come full circle to appliances that connect to a lightbulb socket

Interesting device. Nice that it uses short on/off mains cycle to change operating mode rather then having to set up a account in the cloud to control it.

Glad that fixing the broken track didn't make it go kaboom. I once fixed a broken track on a walkm... portable cassete player/recorder and radio (wasn't Sony) and the thing didn't work. I had also repaired several other tracks due to battery corrosion, but this one was away from the damaged zone and appeared to have been cut with something sharp. Sure enough, everything worked flawlessly after I disconnected it.

CS and GND are swapped on the datasheet because of the 1 and 2 being swapped. GND is pin 1, CS is pin 2

Brown Black Gold = 1R (10 x 0.1), Gold = 5%, Black = Wirewound

The chip was primarily used in multi-colour lights. The output is connected to a white LED and a yellow-ish LED. Then you can adjust the colour temperature.

Definitely interesting. I've seen lamp fixtures with fans, but never lamps themselves. So technically, it'd make the device "The Fannylighter" (or "The Fannyluminator") :)

Interesting device, especially if the fan could also be made to rotate in the opposite direction, as to illuminate and extract soldering fumes in a workbench.

Thanks for always taking the time to reverse engineer and explain these consumer electronics. I love it when you find new, ingenious circuitry or chips, and I know I'm not alone when I say that I've learned a lot from your videos over the years.

That chip would equally have a nice application in larger ceiling fans with lighting. Normally two wall toggle switches are used to control each function, but in a household room with only one wall switch (2 conductor wire with ground), it could make the operation more practical instead of needing a remote control or reaching for the string light/fan switch. In such a mains to mains connection with a few relays could retrofit existing installations.

When i was twelve, we had a bathroom light that was an enormous shaped bulb that had an heating element inside it. The idea was that it slightly heated the bathroom, whilst you were in the bath. But i was in the bath one day when it exploded. My (much to my embarrasment) big brother lifted me out of the bath, as every surface, as well as the soap, was covered in glass shards i had a narrow escape as i got hit on my left inner thigh, which burnt but didn't cut and missed anything important. They are no longer manufactured as far as i know. This was about 1966

I always thought that, when people complain about the heat inefficiency of lights- if you live somewhere that needs heating, you are actually using 100% of the energy (and thought that adding a fan could help circulate the heat). Didn't know they were actually a thing, even if that's not the intention.

Back when things used to have a warranty and worth fixing, we would make tons of money in the shop by fixing manufacturing defects like that open track.

we've gone full circle to the early 1900's, connecting appliances to the light sockets :D

Thank you for the ages that video took you, most impairment. Informative. Crazy that the control track was broken. No resulting explosions or fire when you fixed it, but then you can't have everything. 🙂

Another interesting video, Big C! I couldn’t wait to see what reaction that bridge would cause. Seemed an obvious fault, but one never knows.

Excellent quality control as usual.

I love the fact that Clive can cut your electricity bill in half, just by snipping a resistor!

"Over-volted." I'm going to start using that. "Can't deal with it today, I'm already over-volted."

I still can't stop appreciating the fact you warn us when the light's coming back on.

That was an interesting little evaluation and repair video, Clive. Cheers. You're right about the BLDC fans, they are cheap to make, lightweight for all sorts of applications and don't use much power.

Very neat fan-light! Thanks for taking the time to figure it out, and fix it. The Bright Power chip is neat because it emulates a traditional three-way lamp control. Could see some applications for that myself!

As soon as your uncovered the back side picture my eyes went straight to the error in the circuit...like a magnet or something :) This is a pretty neat little fan/light!

A great video to shine a light for your many fans 👍

I liked it so much ,I bought one! Slightly different pcb layout and different LED control chip DP9503AB but still has parallel resistors between CS and Grd pins but both SMD and both 1R80. Removed one, now 12W light with fan. Thanks Clive

12:10 Anyone else see it? Look at the pin numbering lol! "2-1-3-4" Don't think that is standard. When they made the datasheet, someone inadvertently swapped the pins in the diagram. Makes complete sense when you flip the two pins as then the ground is tied to the local star-point to provide a stable 0V reference, which is a really good idea since you don't want noise screwing with the feedback network. Edit: Not the only one to see it from other comments here, but it would make things confusing for sure.

Connecting wires inside the ceiling is traditional in my country and others, often upgraded to a dedicated connection outlet . But mounting a lamp specific bracket (or entire lamp) is also common .

That’s some clever capability on what is ostensibly a rather mundane device. The way of switching between the light and fan is pretty ingenious and handy (avoids having to go to the device to make the selection). Nice work reverse engineering it as well.

I truly enjoy your work! Thank you from the US!

Thank you Clive, love your videos.

Brilliantly modified Clive I’m quite impressed with the fan lamp thanks 😊

As soon as I saw the bridge rectifier I couldn't help shouting out ElectroBoom style, "FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER!!!"

Thanks for the many, many videos that I've watched and enjoyed.

NEW & IMPROVED Fan with Light - a *CLIVE Shipped with Every one.* : } BRAVO!

Did you notice on the data sheet that the CS and GND pins have the numbers swapped on the package outline. The GND pin is numbered 1 but is in the 2 position. So maybe that is the cause of the confusing wiring and datasheet

what a interesting light. ive started seeing stuff like this as of recently. even some just a fan that screws into a socket in some cases i see these being nice for really restrained places were even smallest ceiling fan wont fit though.

Looks like an interesting light, especially with the fan function as that would help with the current warm weather that you get in a typical UK summer! I'd personally tame the light down to 10W as shown in the video if using in a smaller room - if using in a larger room, or if a good amount of light was required, I'd use it full tilt at its 25W. After all, 25W on this will give way, way more light than a 25W tungsten lamp, a 28W halogen lamp, or even a 23W CFL.

Funny....I've been seeing these randomly pop up on KZfaq even one from Bell and Howell as of late but the one from Bell and Howell are so far the best ones I've seen

Very interesting. Thank you Clive . ✌💚🇬🇧

❤ brilliant 👏 and a good result acknowledges your genius status Clive ❤

I love the way you break things open and discover ways to make them work better or in this case - as designed. I have to wonder if the broken trace was intentional. I also wonder if the higher wattage used by the lights is meant to make them burn out faster.

I love 3 phase brushless motor fans. They tend to work a lot better, be more reliable, quieter, and project airflow a lot better. I am a big fan (pun very much intended). It is easier to have them on smaller fans, but i hope to see them more often. It is nice that it is a sensored motor too. people often prefer sensor-less ESCs, but i believe they can be a lot simpler with a simple hall effect sensor. so I tend to like sensored ESCs more, even if they have 2 or 3 hall sensors.

This unit are rare here and looks useful for small room

For some reason I've always had bad luck with anything that uses switch toggling for controls. I just chalked it up to lacking the mental capacity and/or physically dexterity to make the tthings work, but based on this single example in one video I will now simply assert that they were all made with faulty tracks 😂

I really loved this one. And definitely well worth while.

I wonder if that would make a decent ring light around a macro camera? Obviously a little removal of unneeded parts would be required, but if it is both even enough light distribution, and cheap enough, that might be a worthwhile thing to do.

Ahhh... the "Fannyblaster". In pink, of course.

That BrightPower chip is the same thing used in the "cold white/warm white" lightbulbs you can get at Q&B.

Thanks Clive 👍🇮🇪🙏🏻

That looks great… might go look for one or two

Congrats on your new king.

Phillips has a series of "automatic" dimmer LED lamps. They have 3 light levels. Low, with warm color. Medium with warmer color and High with normal color. The level is changed by turning the lamp off/on. I guess that chip was designed for that kind of application.

Quite funny that the Edison fixing screws off using a Bayonet motion.

Hi, luv your videos mate keep them comming! take care

Good show may man, bravo

These would actually be really nice in the garage. Especially this time of year when it gets stupid hot out there

Another fantastic and enlightening video. 😐👍

Well, that was fantastically enlightening. 😁

Fan-tastic video Thanks for sharing

Awesome video again, Clive - I'd have loved to see your actions and hear your thoughts processes as you Reverse Engineered it.

What an odd product, but I can see how it could be kind of a nice thing to have around. Maybe for one of those desk lamps with the articulating arm.

That's a curious botch, there, for sure. Never seen a broken trace before. All kinds of other stuff but a broken trace is a first. :) Thanks for sharing.

Very nice it does swing a lot on the end of the light flex in the ceiling 🙂

I think part of the reason why a lot of people in the UK still stick to inches is that they seem to think the alternative is to measure everything in millimetres, when in fact most of the civilised world uses _centimetres_ for "medium-sized" stuff (which is why the ruler is marked in cm, not mm).

That's an interesting fan. I might have to look at those.

Same logic as the multi-color temp LED systems - you turn the mains on and off (wall switch usually) and it steps through the modes. As long as you go back on before the time out, it will be in the next mode. most of those are cool - warm - combined as three steps, some have a half power mode as well.

Interesting chip but I noticed from the datasheet that the trigger voltage is about 170V peak (=120VAC) which makes me think it would be unreliable on US voltage. On the other hand that might be dependent on the voltage on the HV pin via a voltage divider. Although it doesn't say how much current it can sink, the data pins can handle up to 30V through a 500 ohm resistance which suggests 60mA so it should be possible to drive a relay directly. Now if only they were available...

I have one of these but mine has a small remote control as well, with the remote you can change the light to cool white, natural, & warm white + also dim the light the remote also allows you to change the fan speed 3 settings & also a timer for the fan 1 2 or 4hrs, other than that it's basically the same as the one in the video.

I knew that I had seen that type of resistor before. The bandings are Brown = 1, Black = 0, Gold = 0.1 (multiplier), Gold = 5% (tolerance), Black = non-inductive (biflar wound WW). They are used in inductive sensitive circuits Edit. Someone said it below 🙂

It a 4 band color with the last band is use to state something different about the resistor. Brown, black, gold and gold are use only to determine the resistance.

Thats sound nice bro 😊

Awesome Video big clive

Ha, interesting: a miniature ceiling fan! Yeah, I've seen oscillating mini-ceiling-fans without lights in the Philippines, but this is a little dial back to the traditional type because of the light, although still very small in comparison, so yeah, that's why it's so interesting!

I have seen one which probably uses this chip. The short switching cycle toggles between cold-white, slightly-warm-white and warm-white.

I saw something on ebay that is similar and has a remote. And another one with RGB and other features. I pictured Clive with a feather boa!

Those plastic fans ... I got a dimplex heater with one which fell off and caught fire on the element almost, shocking

Nice a fan related video you should make more fans videos

Today, I was inspecting the circuit diagram of a low-integration-level integrated circuit, the 74LS469. It's marked obsolete but it has almost exactly the traits that I need for a design of mine. [It's a low-power-consumption (L) Schottski (S) transistor-to-transistor-logic (TTL) tristate-output eight-stages presettable, clearable, cascadable up/down counter; I'd rather have the much less power-hungry, higher-speed (H) CMOS (C) 74HC469 version]. It was manufactured by several major semiconductor factories in the '80's and '90's. A fact that makes me wonder how that circuit diagram had passed the quality inspection: two of the lines were driven by opposing input signals that would have conflicted and eventually damaged the circuit, whereas nearby logic gates would have been left unconnected, floating inputs. Was that the reason it is obsolete now? Were those errors "copy diagram" ones but the original sent to production was faultless? Anyway, I've found that there is a similar one, the 74F779, that responds to a similar description: a tristate-output eight-stages presettable, clearable, cascadable up/down counter, in bipolar TTL technology. But, unexpectedly, its data input pins double as outputs, so it could not serve the exact function I was looking for (an incrementable/decrementable, multiplexable parallel transmitter/register to bridge two buses just one way). Everytime I find another such counter, it has features I do not like or lacks some that I need. Oh, well.

Yeah, very weird, that capacitor on the KP219x VCC pin is normally fed from a diode on feedback winding, that would reduce/turn off the constant current trickle internally in chip, thereby increasing efficiency and reduce waste heat in switch regulator.

Hi, I’ve been wondering if it would be possible for you to explain to all of us who are not electronic-engineers the different terms of power factor / kVa and such… Thanks a lot for very educational and entertaining videos!

From your modifications, it looks like the chip pins 1 and 2 might be backwards on the diagram.

I'd love to see a real close up microscope shot of that defect. Curious if you've found an etching issue in the wild.

Merci.

I bought one of these light fans expecting the PCB to be the same but it's not quite, e.g. The transformer near the LED connector and the chip near the mains input have swapped places. LED driver is an SIC9536BD

Now all we need is an assessment of the weight and vibration, complete with long-term test connected to a hanging pendant set.

Interesting video. What was the power meter you used after the rebuild (with 2 terminals for the flying lead)

That's was good fanservice. 😅

Very interesting

nice ruler🙂

Anyone else thinking about getting some of these, a pack of hepa filter paper and you'd have a hepa filter light fixture in every room.. From personal experience hepa paper does improve air quality quite noticeably.

*Can we take a moment to appreciate how much work he puts into these videos for us 😍*

The mains connection (when direct wired) should be in the celing, as that's where the junction box lives.

I wonder if that powerful fan would make the fixture dangle around if it were mounted on one of the E27 dangling cords. Would be nice to provide airflow through the room!

Another great video Clive. These fan lights are very common in Philippines at the market to illuminate produce while keeping the flys away. Would the fan motor run in reverse if the black and red wires were swapped at the molex plug?

Interesting product, I think I'd like one, but in my house I don't have any ceiling mounted bare light sockets that don't either have a lamp shade around them, aren't angled perpendicular to the ceiling, don't have a cover that sits over them, or are part of a pendant light.

Interesting video Big Clive. I didn't catch the fan motors dc voltage rating.

In schematic for KP219X ( 10:34 ) chip numbering starts at 2 and then 1. Maybe this is the source of confusion?

Thank you for doing this Clive. this is exactly the kind of fan/light I've been looking for. Would you be so very very kind as to let me know from whence it came, pretty please? 😀

I like this.

These have been getting popular lately, specifically the Bell & Howell version