Fixing A Generator That Won't Start

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Thanks for watching. This Powermate Generator was sitting for a very long time, and now it won't start. The problem turned out to be something I've not seen in a long time.

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@Tyler_brennan
@Tyler_brennan 2 жыл бұрын
It's been awhile since you did a generator. And yesterday I got a compression and spark checker so I can start fixing small engines!
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
very nice, yes, I wanted to focus on mowers for these last 2 months.
@TecumsehRulesbcserk
@TecumsehRulesbcserk 2 жыл бұрын
One thing you need to understand about Tecumseh engines is that they absolutely hate being abused, and they’ll show that at you. Believe they’re great engines, most of the time they fail because it is the consumers fault for not maintaining it.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
thank you Smallengineworld BCSERK, you make a good point.
@zagatozele
@zagatozele 2 жыл бұрын
I saved a Tecumseh 8hp right before death
@Donald__Trumpet
@Donald__Trumpet 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve successfully killed one tecumseh engine, and I can’t count how many Briggs and Stratton I’ve blown up
@jayasmrmore3687
@jayasmrmore3687 2 жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel btw did you take the generator to an electric shop? When are you doing update video
@johnmckee7937
@johnmckee7937 2 жыл бұрын
Great video again! Showing the actual difference between good and bad fuel excellent. Second was OHV adjustment explained very clearly. Third was compression tester use. This example was nice because it showed low compression and next step. Very interesting case, I'm not convinced there isn't more damage somewhere.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
Great point!
@johnmckee7937
@johnmckee7937 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing stuck valve .
@watermanone7567
@watermanone7567 2 жыл бұрын
The low compression of 65 lbs. may be due the engine having a compression release for easy starting. My guess is that you only have a fuel issue now after fixing the rocker arm. I always fix my own equipment probably due have a small engine shop. I get tired of fixing junk mowers, one guy brought me six junk mowers this spring to fix. He is a land lord and won't buy good mowers for his tennants to use. Thanks for the video.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
yes sir, you already know the situation
@7eis
@7eis 2 жыл бұрын
You could definitely hear some valve train trouble on the first pulls. I wasn't worried about compression either, usually just go by feel if it's a no-start issue and proceed to try and get spark and manually squit it some fuel
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
you have a bette ear than me.
@7eis
@7eis 2 жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel I'm sure if you go back you will hear the clanking. Maybe it just comes across better on video. Sometimes the pull start mechanism will rub and make noises or you can hear a rusty/gummed up flywheel hit, will usually have much higher drag then.
@derrineckelmann3523
@derrineckelmann3523 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos keep me interested in finding free small engine items that people throw away and see if I can repair them with you knowledgable videos . Im really liking the hobby of fixing them up and maybe flip them for a profit one day !
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear it.
@JustAnotherGuyInTheComments
@JustAnotherGuyInTheComments 2 жыл бұрын
If you value your time at above $15 an hour, I don’t recommend it. Ask me how I know.
@RussellBooth1977
@RussellBooth1977 2 жыл бұрын
I have repaired generators in my time as an electrical fitter/mechanic so I would repair it myself. My brother bought my brother a couple of discontinued AEG units & one of them has a faulty RCD (residual current device) on it & the Simple fix is to replace it !
@benrobles752
@benrobles752 2 жыл бұрын
Chomping at the bit for part two!
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
thank you Ben Robles.
@clayhx5575
@clayhx5575 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a similar thing happen to my Honda generator, the exhaust valve seized open and the rocker fell off. That had me worried that the engine had blown up, but a little disassembly (and penetrating oil) got it back working.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
nice diagnostic work!
@clayhx5575
@clayhx5575 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, the worst part was having to remove half of the generator sheeting, support brackets and heat shields to gain access to the valve cover.
@joeortiz3455
@joeortiz3455 2 жыл бұрын
Thats very right HG that exhaust valve stem ain't broke don't Fitz it!
@EzRay11
@EzRay11 2 жыл бұрын
I’m very interested in this one. I have a 1982 Honda generator, points, condenser and coil under the steel flywheel, with a no spark issue that has almost beat me. I had it running once for about 10 minutes. Just once! Ordered an Oregon ignition module, still no spark. The coil is now dead. I’m currently trying to locate another coil. Frustrating to say the least. Thought about taking it to my local shop but just can’t let this one win. Looking forward to the follow up video. Cheers
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
thank you Ez Ray, hope you have luck finding the parts you need.
@butler386
@butler386 2 жыл бұрын
Very naughty little engine. However, this will be a very good learning experience for me. Looking forward to the next video. Thanks for the videos.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
thank you D Butler.
@ethanmiller3935
@ethanmiller3935 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!! I would try to work on it myself. I actually worked on your generators little brother, a Coleman powermate sport 1850, with a 3.5 horse flat head briggs not that long ago.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
nice, I hope that repair, went well, thank you Ethan Miller.
@ethanmiller3935
@ethanmiller3935 2 жыл бұрын
Your welcome. It did go well, thanks!!
@sparky1044
@sparky1044 2 жыл бұрын
A couple years back, I broke a snowblower to a shop for my brother in law. They wanted $600 to fix the electric starter and stuck transmission. I have been working on everybody's equipment since. I'm in the same boat as you for a generator though, not sure what I'm doing all the time with electricity. 😐
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing your experience Yard Dawg.
@rickthelian2215
@rickthelian2215 2 жыл бұрын
You have to many friends 😀😀😀 Old fuel is good to use for cleaning parts. Let’s hope it starts freely once carburettor is cleaned and put on.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
thank you Rick Thelian.
@mrskulf
@mrskulf 2 жыл бұрын
Give us 30m videos, 1h videos, 24h videos, we love it
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
it takes me, 10-12 hours to make a 15 minute video. if you do the math, it wouldn't be able to get enough time, to keep my schedule, and would have to mark bi-monthly videos instead.
@mrskulf
@mrskulf 2 жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel Feel free to give us less edited videos if you feel like so, we're all up for your good work and more content is always apreciated, thank you very much :)
@electroddxful
@electroddxful 2 жыл бұрын
Great diagnose 👍🙏👍🙏
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍
@martint766
@martint766 2 жыл бұрын
Good video I liked it. Informative.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@alexandercosta1777
@alexandercosta1777 2 жыл бұрын
Don let engines get to you lol, you got this your the engine whisperer lol.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
lol... thank you Alexander Costa.
@christophermarshall5765
@christophermarshall5765 2 жыл бұрын
I fix my own. The one I had given needed a new carby. It runs fine now.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
nice job
@christophermarshall5765
@christophermarshall5765 2 жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel thanks.
@jeffcox2446
@jeffcox2446 2 жыл бұрын
Great video your the best keep them coming
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@jameshedrick605
@jameshedrick605 2 жыл бұрын
I will always check the oil in my generator before I start it. Even if it does have the low oil shut down on it. I had that same issue with my old riding mower with the 17hp Tecumseh Enduro
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
thank you James Hedrick
@every_thing_wood1251
@every_thing_wood1251 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I have an echo pb580t and I cant get it to start. Cleaned out the carb already. Checked it all. Everything is good. It begins to catch, but doesnt start up. What's going on? Please help
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
consider replacing the plug, because that's what I do, when I have a stubborn starting issue, if that doesn't work, I would look into replacing the carb.
@ramseys20
@ramseys20 Жыл бұрын
Hi I have the same lawn mower the problem With my is the clutch when it get hot the pto stop working do you know how to calibrate or do I need to replace it Clutch GT1-TI 01 oruga brand thank you
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
I'd replace it.
@7eis
@7eis 2 жыл бұрын
If you've got an affiliate link for that carb stud socket, would seem appropriate for this video description.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
you got it, I'll put it in the description, thanks for watching for stuff like that.
@Jim-ie6uf
@Jim-ie6uf 2 жыл бұрын
Harbor freight
@mr1pearl
@mr1pearl 2 жыл бұрын
Such a tease 😆 I know you probably have this thing up and running but I would shoot some Marvel Mystery Oil in the cylinder to free up those rings I swear by that stuff ! Can't wait for the next one 👍
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
oh yeah, you might be right about the piston rings
@EzRay11
@EzRay11 2 жыл бұрын
Question. How did you know they installed the wrong plug? That’s not something I would have picked up on. Cheers
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
oh, it's because he and I have the same race car, which we've had for the past 20 years, so I've seen this plug, more times than I can count. The way I knew, the plug, wasn't important to the diagnostic so I didn't mention it.
@cptyler150
@cptyler150 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great video but you can make a longer video up to an hour that would be more than sufficient and ok with me
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
lol.. to make a 1 hour video, it would take me about 60 hours, of work. with that sort of work, I wouldn't be able to support my other channel.
@rogerstlaurent8704
@rogerstlaurent8704 2 жыл бұрын
personally i would try and repair it myself it would be a lot cheaper than bring it to a repair shop just by watching your great video that Generator if it was at my place and to get it running again the correct way it would easy be $ 700.00 to $ 800.00 to repair it and the other thing you know that generator is going to be a come back even at your best repair and you think you got it right oh yeah Mr Home owner is not going to be happy when it faileds to start or put out electricity
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
thank yo Roger St. Laurent.
@Honestmoneyfirst
@Honestmoneyfirst 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried ECHO Red Armor? It made my old 2011 ECHO 416t run way better than any other 2stroke oil. My 2022 ECHO PAS225 runs red armor and performs better than the oil that came with the unit (ECHO POWERBLEND GOLD) and the powerblend somehow made a gel like substance when mixed with fresh fuel.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
no I haven't but a lot of people swear by it.
@stephenrobinson7945
@stephenrobinson7945 2 жыл бұрын
My generator is like this, except for the B&S engine. I haven't started it in a while. So I figure I need to clean the carb and the bowl. It will run with starting fluid. I just haven't got brave enough to pull the bowl. I have less than 20 hours on the thing, so it's basically brand new.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
hope you take a look sometime, a generator is no good, if you can't get it started. thank you Stephen Robinson.
@stephenrobinson7945
@stephenrobinson7945 2 жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel I think due to the time it's sat idle the old gas either needs to be flushed out or the bowl cleaned.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
I think you're right.
@nitroman365
@nitroman365 2 жыл бұрын
Compression relief on the cam is making the compression test skewed. 65 is good on this.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
thank you nitroman365
@gradientgamer5480
@gradientgamer5480 2 жыл бұрын
Have u been tasked to fix a Standby (Natural Gas) ones?
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
not yet, but I would really like to.
@tiger5551
@tiger5551 2 жыл бұрын
What I do to check spark, while it’s not very smart is to just hold the plug and have someone to pull the engine, if I get shocked I know that the ignition works
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
that does work
@Jlawns
@Jlawns 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Briggs engine on a craftsman lawn mower it needed a valve lash adjustment and after I did it it generously backfires while starting and it has not started yet I did try to do it without the spacer
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
can I ask which "Spacer" are you referring to?
@Jlawns
@Jlawns 2 жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel I was talking about the tool you use for spacing the valve lashes
@Jlawns
@Jlawns 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry if it wasn’t clear I was using talk text
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
oh I see, yes, it's a shim but spacer also works well too.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
it's not a problem, I just need to make sure I understood the question, It sounds like the valve adjustment might have been off? did you put the piston on TDC or did you adjust it by having one of the valves in the down position?
@robertmailhos8159
@robertmailhos8159 2 жыл бұрын
Well atleast you got it to fire off that is step up
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
yes, that was more, then what it was doing, when I first got it.
@robertmailhos8159
@robertmailhos8159 2 жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel okay thanks for letting me know about that matter young man 😎👍
@hotchihuahua1546
@hotchihuahua1546 2 жыл бұрын
Marvel Mystery oil will help loosen those rings and lube your valves & seats .
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
yes I think you're right.
@farmbossmikey1350
@farmbossmikey1350 2 жыл бұрын
what cost the chainsaw chain move when starting it
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
either a bad clutch or the idle speed is too high
@farmbossmikey1350
@farmbossmikey1350 2 жыл бұрын
stihl 031 av May had a bad chach
@two-strokeworkshop1154
@two-strokeworkshop1154 Жыл бұрын
Do you still have that Toyota Supra and can you do another video on it
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
yes, not sure if I will.
@markharris4260
@markharris4260 Жыл бұрын
Stuck rings and valves not seating properly , pull cylinder head lap valves soak cylinder in marvel mystery oil for 24 hours new head gasket and valve cover gasket but be sure to set clearance on intake valve at 4 thousand and exhaust valve clearance at 6 thousand
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips!
@colesteffens5402
@colesteffens5402 2 жыл бұрын
You can take those carb studs out with a 4mm socket
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
oh nice, I didn't know that.
@ramadinsookhoo6141
@ramadinsookhoo6141 2 жыл бұрын
Hey bro cool video. I believe this was one of the most stressful engines that you've worked on. I probably would of given up on in and send it to the dump😅😅
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
you know you're right, I was getting stressed out, why nothing was working like it should have.
@ramadinsookhoo6141
@ramadinsookhoo6141 2 жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel when the owners don't do regular maintenance on their equipment it becomes very stressful for the technician to diagnose the problem which may result in having to go through the entire machine in order to repair it.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
you got that right.
@copperheaddesigns672
@copperheaddesigns672 2 жыл бұрын
late again aw man but good video
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
not a problem and thanks for being here, I appreciate it.
@williamsnow1531
@williamsnow1531 2 жыл бұрын
I would try to fix it myself since I like a challenge, but I also know when I’ve been defeated and then will bring it into somebody that knows more about the machine than I do.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
thank you William Snow.
@biggreenmachine6968
@biggreenmachine6968 Жыл бұрын
How did you know the spark plug was wrong?
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
because of the numbers on it, indicate its for a car engine, not a small engine. Beside I know the guy really well and he's car nut.
@dfields9511
@dfields9511 2 жыл бұрын
Ohh a Tecumseh Vector carb That enough to make me run away Those just replace them if you can find one on Amazon They only used them for a short time. @taryl fixes all. Has some video on carburetor
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
I really don't like this carb, it's very strange But in the next episode on it, I sort of figure it out .
@MegaEmmanuel09
@MegaEmmanuel09 2 жыл бұрын
3:05 Last time I tried that, they stole the whole generator 😔
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
that's a shame.
@donaldbower4097
@donaldbower4097 2 жыл бұрын
My first thought is valves
@donaldbower4097
@donaldbower4097 2 жыл бұрын
Simply because you have spark, but no fuel getting in to the combustion chamber. Either that or the engine is just shot due to a scored piston or cylinder wall.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
you were quicker than I was then, I was fiddling with it for a while .
@999thenewman
@999thenewman 2 жыл бұрын
Good enough for now. If the valves were lapped, it could improve overall engine power.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
true, but I would have to remove the head for that. thank you Shoe Slideshows.
@999thenewman
@999thenewman 2 жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel Well, you're already knee-deep in garage clean-out. Just don't think what'd it'd be like to go the extra mile, champ.
@7eis
@7eis 2 жыл бұрын
I may or may not have poured a bit of ATF down the valve stems on engines sitting a while. Come up with your own reasons why you'd do this. Like a saline injection but for engines that's been sitting forever.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
makes sense to me.
@orionwarren4244
@orionwarren4244 2 жыл бұрын
The reason there isn't more than 65psi compression at cranking is because of a decompression 'bump' feature on the cam. When it starts the 'bump' retracts and full compression is restored
@benjaminmills4773
@benjaminmills4773 2 жыл бұрын
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@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
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@Fishin_Fixin_things
@Fishin_Fixin_things Жыл бұрын
Your intro made me laugh.. Thats not that easy to do.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
it never is.
@pantherplatform
@pantherplatform 2 жыл бұрын
Watch your fingernails when starting generators with metal panels like this one. Almost ripped a nail off starting one of these. Who the hell engineers this crap?
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 жыл бұрын
I know, they can be very dangerous.
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