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Fixing Smash Character’s Movesets

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Jaren

Jaren

Күн бұрын

Today I attempt to fix the movesets of Smash characters that desperately need it. But.....there's a lot of characters. I might need to make this a series. Speaking of which, if your main didn't get fixed in this one suggest them and how you would fix them down below in the comments. Also while you're here, subscribe.....come on, it'll be fun I promise.
#smashbros #smashbrosultimate #nintendo #nintendoswitch

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@gloriabellon6948
@gloriabellon6948 3 ай бұрын
why this video has not views at all? it's a amazing video. you deserve more subscribers man.
@Jare1315
@Jare1315 3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, that means a lot! We’ll get there!
@budgethewudge
@budgethewudge 3 ай бұрын
THATS WHAT IM SAYING THIS IS GREAT
@Azureblue25
@Azureblue25 3 ай бұрын
The more of us that click the like button & subscribe/watch his videos, it should help him out.
@Jare1315
@Jare1315 3 ай бұрын
@@Azureblue25 please do 😂
@Azureblue25
@Azureblue25 3 ай бұрын
@@Jare1315 Luckily I already did all of that yesterday. 😊
@micahwong1410
@micahwong1410 3 ай бұрын
I think that Mario shouldn’t have the Ice Flower and instead give that to Luigi, to show how Luigi is the more liked but less used character (like the Ice Flower)!
@Vanillasanjiro
@Vanillasanjiro 3 ай бұрын
Plus Luigi in smash 4 had an ice flower for one of its moves!
@jaco8822
@jaco8822 3 ай бұрын
have luigi be able to get the ice flower via the same gimmick mario has, but have his default be thunderhand from the mario and luigi games.
@theuluko
@theuluko 3 ай бұрын
Luigi need a thunderbolt because of the mario&luigi games.
@Mahdi12
@Mahdi12 3 ай бұрын
Ganon and Sonic is definitely top priority when it comes to fixing movesets.
@Sjono
@Sjono 3 ай бұрын
3:57 Giving Mario a random power up for his *neutral B?* For the love of Kirby, think about those implications
@reecemeadows4754
@reecemeadows4754 3 ай бұрын
Bro hasn’t blinked once like is he good 😂
@Jare1315
@Jare1315 3 ай бұрын
Legend has it, he still has his eyes open til this very day…
@juanpablo.a
@juanpablo.a 3 ай бұрын
fr lmaoo whats up with that
@BowserGetsGrounded
@BowserGetsGrounded 3 ай бұрын
I think the reason of why older smash bros character have the same move sets is because Sakurai considers them as fighting game characters and doesn't want to change them too much.
@Magic_Ice
@Magic_Ice 3 ай бұрын
I believe that but another reason is that designing a fighting game character is very difficult and adding or removing a move could completely change how a character plays. This amount of time and work would be at the expense of new characters and with a series so focused on the roster, cutting characters is met with disappointment at best and feverish backlash at worst. So making new characters always made more sense than redesigning old ones.
@BowserGetsGrounded
@BowserGetsGrounded 3 ай бұрын
@@Magic_Ice you do make a good point. 🤔 but I think changing 2 or 4 moves should be fine
@LG555
@LG555 3 ай бұрын
​@@BowserGetsGroundedbut then we shouldn't change tho more iconic moves like mario fireball. If something needs changing with Mario, it's down- and side-B.
@Bruh..........
@Bruh.......... 3 ай бұрын
​@@Magic_Icemake sense but please rework fucking sonic moveset 💀
@juneru2
@juneru2 3 ай бұрын
Yeah but this ain't a traditional fighting game, it'sa cross-over party game and these characters have had the same moves for decades now. These characters are from franchises with HUNDREDS of games to pull moves from, characters like Mario, Pikachu, Kirby etc. weren't created _for_ Smash Bros. like Ryu is for Street Fighter.
@dagoodboy6424
@dagoodboy6424 3 ай бұрын
I always thought mario should spike ppl by jumping on them.
@Jare1315
@Jare1315 3 ай бұрын
I like that a lot actually
@Toxipool
@Toxipool 3 ай бұрын
High quality KZfaqr with less than 100 subscribers? The math isn't adding up here
@nintendofan7218
@nintendofan7218 3 ай бұрын
Look again…
@dagimmic774
@dagimmic774 3 ай бұрын
Honestly I feel like Simon needs to be fixed, I get he and richter are supposed to be echos but honestly I feel like Simon doesn’t feel like Simon it feels like Simon is wearing a richter skin. Some things I would change is: Down tilt- he could never do the slide make it like a crouching whip attack Up Special- have it be a whip grapple like byleth since that is something he can do in SC4 obviously I had some more ideas with this to make it more unique but I don’t wanna make this to long. Final smash- literally Simon cannot do grand cross in the main games, I personally think they should have made it his hype attack from judgment or something similar but seriously that’s just lazy.
@juneru2
@juneru2 3 ай бұрын
About time I've seen a video about this! I'd be so happy if the next Smash re-worked all the characters moves, even if it means a much smaller roster than Ultimate has. Veteran characters deserve updated moves to better reflect the vast amount of games they're in, and many characters have virtually had the same movesets for DECADES now. Maybe they could even give every character more moves (like aerial Smash attacks) so characters have even MORE variety!
@EpicPandaPat
@EpicPandaPat 3 ай бұрын
This reminds me of my old content, humble beginnings with simple editing. I 100% definitely know that you'll get better and better and make way better content then you are know. Earned a sub.
@Mymy_64
@Mymy_64 3 ай бұрын
6:10 Honestly it make sense to have his abilities be based around the Poltergust(most likely the G-00 model). His Down B would be Burst where you can push people away like Mario's F.L.U.D.D.(But with less distance), Up B would probably be the same, Neutral's the vacuum that just brings opponents closer(you can't damage them though), and his Final Smash would stay the same.
@lorenzo77dascenzo70
@lorenzo77dascenzo70 3 ай бұрын
15:13 for my opinion we can change down b in a flight of ganon
@jonadams2741
@jonadams2741 3 ай бұрын
10 outta 10 great video I think the only way for this to happen if a new team takes over Super Smash Bros as lets be honest if Sora Limited can't get their CPU's to work I think updating movesets might be an impossible task at this point Sora Limited aka Sakurai and his team has proven they can't even make proper Single Player modes like Adventure modes so sadly the only way for this to happen is if HAL or MercySteam to work on the next Super Smash then I can see this possible. Once again good video keep up the content
@RoninCatholic
@RoninCatholic 3 ай бұрын
In general, the earlier a character was added to Smash, the less series material there was to pull from to inspire a moveset (95% of Pit's mechanical complexity has been experienced in games Sakurai directed, not his original 8-bit duology; Star Fox characters had never been active out of their vehicles during gameplay until after Melee was developed), the less confident and experienced the Smash team was with being able to depict unusual movesets (in Smash 64 three characters have a B move that's just "strong melee hit" - Jigglypuff, Captain Falcon, and Donkey Kong - everyone else has a projectile. Only two characters have non-recovery moves on their Up+B - Jigglypuff and Yoshi, with Ness's being a strangely technical recovery and a projectile. Most characters' Down+B are area of effect "get off me" tools - bombs, whirlwinds, earthquakes, shields, lightning bolt), and so on. Captain Falcon's moveset was mostly a result of him being an easy character to rig to the existing generic muscle guy polygons from Dragon King, then Ganondorf's moveset in Melee was the result of HIS model being easy to slap onto Captain Falcon's rig. With more time to cook, we probably would have wound up with Captain Falcon actually USING that gun holstered on his hip like Fox does instead of the iconic Falcon Punch, and with Ganondorf's moveset being edited more from Captain Falcon's into something comprehensive and actually relating to his character. Most characters introduced in Brawl and later "feel" like themselves perfectly fine.
@kraut_did_work
@kraut_did_work 3 ай бұрын
Some things are good to allright but i dont see a quick up/down tilt with mario changing his entire outfit, becouse it would be so fast it wouldnt really be visible or anoying. Neutral B of luigi would be to simialar to his grab dont see the difference. Bowser having King K. Rools up B would be kinda allright, if implimented right. Toatally with you on the toad idea. I wasnt buyed on the yoshi part until helicopter yoshi, it might be good or i just like the idea. You also want dk to fail by taking away side B it seems. Didnt thought i would make such a long text, i am german incase many words are written wrong.
@BossMan_.
@BossMan_. 3 ай бұрын
I see where you are coming from for a lot of these. Although I think the thought behind Luigi Neutral B was to work similar to Wario Neutral B. He would deal damage over time like Wario does, just without the healing. Or maybe I misunderstood what he meant. But overall I think you make some valid points.
@Jare1315
@Jare1315 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I didn’t think about the costume changes 😂. Valid points though
@kraut_did_work
@kraut_did_work 3 ай бұрын
@@BossMan_. when you grab some body you can deal damage like wario neutral B but with out healing so it would be very simular
@mrtrashulis1097
@mrtrashulis1097 3 ай бұрын
Dude finally we need more Jaren (as in the name) representation in todays society!
@warrenbradford2597
@warrenbradford2597 5 күн бұрын
BrawlFan1 and The Duke of Dorks have done their takes on changing some of the Smash Bros characters movesets. I especially strongly agree with Duke on that Diddy Kong should use both of his coconut guns and used them in more of his attacks instead of just being his neutral B.
@XMan2001X
@XMan2001X 3 ай бұрын
15:38 YES! You get it! A Link To The Past is where he got his trident, and I want to see more of THAT for him! Hyrule Warriors got that right, and it lets him now through enemy forces like grass! Giving him the trident in Smash would improve him greatly! I love you, sir.
@Jare1315
@Jare1315 3 ай бұрын
I love you too ❤
@Azureblue25
@Azureblue25 3 ай бұрын
I would like to see your ideas on how to fix Kirby, Rosalina & Luma & Sora’s movesets.
@TramiNguyen-oi3kp
@TramiNguyen-oi3kp 3 ай бұрын
Kirby is my favorite Super Smash Brothers character!
@MattJF21
@MattJF21 3 ай бұрын
Nah bro don't be ashamed for playing hero. You can play whoever you want. I main Pyra/Mythra and the ppl who know don't rlly care
@RoninCatholic
@RoninCatholic 3 ай бұрын
Hero is my favorite in Ultimate, Roy is my favorite in Melee, Link is my favorite in 64.
@deoxysoverlord8710
@deoxysoverlord8710 3 ай бұрын
I love this video! You're starting small, and I wanna support you! You've earned a subscription.
@Jare1315
@Jare1315 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@verse_astro_toad
@verse_astro_toad 3 ай бұрын
im always getting recommended small youtubers but there videos are so good, like this one, im gonna sub
@Jare1315
@Jare1315 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub 👍
@verse_astro_toad
@verse_astro_toad 3 ай бұрын
np :)
@Wuffix
@Wuffix 3 ай бұрын
bowsers up-b is a refrence to the koopalings going in their shell & moving when you hit them i think itd be p stupid to make it a clown car when the koopalings always have one in smash warios side-b is a refrence to his iconic warioware bike(& hes considered a warioware character in smash) so i dont think itd make sense to change it donkey kongs final smash is a refrence to donkey kong jungle beat(the best dk game), donkey kong country returns & donkey kong tropical freeze, i think itd be weird to change it from an iconic multi-game refrence to a single appearance
@Eichhirnchen
@Eichhirnchen 3 ай бұрын
You should fix Kirby
@jonadams2741
@jonadams2741 3 ай бұрын
Kirby's forward tilt should be replaced by Chop Barrage and Up B replaced by either Rising Break or Hi Jump
@fatherofthepigeons2854
@fatherofthepigeons2854 20 күн бұрын
Feel like Mario's moveset should be reworked and then give Dr. mario his old moveset.
@czms922
@czms922 3 ай бұрын
Any change to sonics move set would be positive atp
@themightykingjosiah8810
@themightykingjosiah8810 3 ай бұрын
You literally just gave Bowser a custom fire move he already had in sm4sh
@Jare1315
@Jare1315 3 ай бұрын
Oh, I guess I did 😂. Kinda forgot custom moves existed for a second my bad
@themightykingjosiah8810
@themightykingjosiah8810 3 ай бұрын
@Jare1315 No you're good, I just thought it was funny
@gloriabellon6948
@gloriabellon6948 3 ай бұрын
you look like uncle dane
@J-vd9pe
@J-vd9pe 3 ай бұрын
For some like Mario, if they change the moveset for some one like Mario, the fans would have Nintendo's head. For fighters like Dark Samus, yes it would be good if they change their move sets.
@_Tygon_
@_Tygon_ 3 ай бұрын
Amazing ideas here. Subscribed!
@WDB2005
@WDB2005 2 ай бұрын
In my opinion, Nintendo if they make a new console and choose to import Ultimate for the switch (IMO that's the best option) they should upgrade character movesets like Mario, Ganondorf, Donkey Kong and Sonic (the biggest musts) and maybe add more stuff to characters like Luigi and others and basically keep adding onto Smash Ultimate. Of course they can also add more stages, Mii costumes, a couple of DLC characters and some music soundtracks and spirits as well.
@Jare1315
@Jare1315 2 ай бұрын
Yeah that would be sick. Or they pull a Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and bring everything back and add some character changes, around 10 new characters, and give us an adventure mode
@WDB2005
@WDB2005 2 ай бұрын
@@Jare1315 Yeah and if they wanted they could upgrade a few assist trophies to fighters and add new assist trophies I just hope one of the new characters is from Sonic, which speaking of Sonic my major complaint is that he just isn't characterized correctly for the most part, he's missing expressions and just better taunt lines which should've kept the ones for Brawl. And Mario, I feel like his current moveset is good for the most part, although a few moves should be implemented (Cappy as a grab, The ground n' pound move which should be his down air and possibly adding his cape into his up air so its used at the end and maybe be able to move the nozzle for FLUDD) Donkey Kong should have his coconut guns and barrels Ganondorf should literally have swords implemented in more of his basic attacks and his major specials (everything that isn't the choke move) should be swapped
@WDB2005
@WDB2005 2 ай бұрын
@@Jare1315 and Mii costumes? I'd personally love to see Master Chief get one (cause I'm sure Nintendo won't add Halo as a rep with him not appearing on consoles)
@UndertakerU2ber
@UndertakerU2ber 3 ай бұрын
Your video editing is really good and your ideas/analysis are on point, but your commentary is very "dry" in tone. I wouldn't say that you should be inauthentic and "wacky" like mainstream e-celebs commonly are, but I think you should try to tap into how excited you _feel_ about your ideas and let that shine when you talk to us on your mic.
@DJBurns-jq8mn
@DJBurns-jq8mn 3 ай бұрын
Wtf is it with everyone obsessing over replacing movesets with moves from the newer games? We don't need Mario to use his power-ups for his moves, Cappy is completely fine as a change, I welcome that but the rest of his moveset doesn't need to be changed, there's a reason why he barely got changes to begin with. And Luigi getting a full Luigi's Mansion moveset is stupid as he is literally a copy of Mario that was developed into his own character so changing what he is in Smash to that degree undermines who Luigi is, just give him the ability to blow or suck up enemies and items with the Polturgust for his grabs to repersent all the Luigi's Mansion games and your good. DK doesn't need anything changed execpt for him having the ability to roll certain items when he gets them like barrels to reference the og DK or even do the same to allies in team battles like we see in the Donkey Kong Country games. You get the idea, the characters that deserve a moveset change are Sonic (obviously, though I'd say just combine the 2 spindashes into 1 move and have him do a small boost like Banjo's wounde-ring but faster, weaker and no invincibility and the Sonic Eagle for forward air), Ganondorf (change his up b to his float from OoT and his neutral b a slow purple energy ball that acts like his attack also from OoT) and all the echo/clone characters execpt for Ken and 1 of the Links (otherwise just have them as a costume alt that gives them a twist to moves like Daisy pulling out a Shyguy instead of Toad and sports balls instead of turnips).
@DJBurns-jq8mn
@DJBurns-jq8mn 3 ай бұрын
Nothing against you as a person as it's your opinion but I just felt it needed to be said.
@AadamArshad-ic5gk
@AadamArshad-ic5gk 3 ай бұрын
Peach should be the worst character in Smash 6. That's my wish
@goofyjuice5710
@goofyjuice5710 3 ай бұрын
I think Luigi should also have references to the Mario and Luigi series. Like his electricity or dream powers.
@Jare1315
@Jare1315 3 ай бұрын
That would be sick!
@juliusjohansson-cl3gk
@juliusjohansson-cl3gk 3 ай бұрын
A how will the powerups work on a competetive level. Will it depend on how many stocks mario has?
@Jare1315
@Jare1315 3 ай бұрын
Probably on stocks, the more behind you are the better off you will get. I don’t really know what the best route to take with that move is tbh. As long as he uses his power ups in some way I’d be cool with that
@juliusjohansson-cl3gk
@juliusjohansson-cl3gk 3 ай бұрын
Okej got it👍 and you have really god ideas for movesets😊
@BossMan_.
@BossMan_. 3 ай бұрын
I imagine it'd be similar to Lucarios aura mechanic. He gets naturally stronger when loosing, but for mario it's his power ups getting strong and not all of him.
@hunterbeaune7626
@hunterbeaune7626 3 ай бұрын
0:05 artist?
@Mewtic2
@Mewtic2 3 ай бұрын
I disagree
@byronvonedmund
@byronvonedmund 3 ай бұрын
2:05 you just had to ruin your own video with this statement
@megax-lf3bn
@megax-lf3bn 3 ай бұрын
Capatin falcon shurld n b a gun that hes R.o.b meta kinght litte mac ryu nad ken
@DS_909
@DS_909 3 ай бұрын
Your not really considering game balance with some of these moves, because yea, at first, it wouldnt make sence for yoshi to have eggs bound to his up special until you take the time to realise that yoshi didnt need a recovory, and by giving yoshi whats essentially snake's up special, you could ruin the balance and counter play of yoshi. Also as a DK main, side special is a very important tool for DK simce it basically gives him a free stun, a spike, and a good way to break sheild, and replacing it with a mediocor at best projectile would make his gameplan worse. D.K. also is balanced with having a crappy revory since ot has so many ways to kill at an early percent. Mario should probably stay un-touched or atleast leave a gimmick out of his kit because mario is quite literally your introduction to smash bros, so having mario have a crazy and wild gimmick with random powerups would literally ruin the point of mario's entire existence while also removing an amazing ranged option for mario. Link was reworked in ultimatebso that his bomb worked more like tears of the kingdom while keeping younglink identical to the older link, but just having one link reference two games would be worthless and just homogonize reg link into a similar vein as doctor mario or toon link where they are refrencing only 1 game. Finally, with wario, having his neutral B and his side B be a move that advances the player forward would literally be the exact same thing that you complained about with sonic, but both moves would have a diferent coat of paint.
@BossMan_.
@BossMan_. 3 ай бұрын
Keep in mind we are all looking at this from a different perspective. I completely get what you are saying and when looking at the game competitively, you are probably right in what you say. However, not all fans of the game look at it competitively. Some are solely casual player and just wanna see newer games represented through the characters. And when looking at it from that perspective then yeah at least some stuff said in the video and great ideas. Logically, things like this won't actually be changed as they will likely look to more competitive aspects over casual.
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