its so weird to me that pre-dlc spirits refuse to have the characters using the default alt for spirit battles, it makes some of them really weird as the default skin wouldve been the most fitting alt to go with them

I agree with Gooey being the black alt. Gooey is a very dark blue and Kirby's blue alt doesn't fit that. Plus, Gooey's a Dark Matter, so it just lines up.

One spirit I'd fix is the Pac-Man Ghosts, because they're all represented by a different character and don't look similar at all (including Pac-Man himself representing one for some reason??), but there are 4 Kirby alts that look EXACTLY like each Ghost's original design, so I don't understand why it is the way it is now.

I just want to mention that the only reason the Ribbon Girl spirit battle was changed was because she NEVER had a battle before the ARMs DLC. She was only craftable before. But I guess they decided to add Spring Man and Ribbon Girl to the board in order to have the full cast.

I'd also have the Kirbys in the Ghast spirit battle spam dash attack, because it turns Kirby into a fireball

Goro Akechi’s spirit battle should really use Joker with… you know, the alt that is obviously referencing Akechi’s colour scheme

For Flash Man's spirit, the Timer item is used to represent his weapon, the Time Stopper...even though Shadow the Hedgehog stops opponents in place for a brief moment after slowing them down in Ultimate, which is a much better match for the Time Stopper than the Timer.

If DLC fighters adjusted base game spirits, then the White Piranha Plant should be used instead of Pac-Man for the Nipper Plant spirit battle.

Shadow should just be a Default Joker that spams Neutral B.

the reason the spirits you listed are not in their default costumes are because they appear in World of Light, I belive that spirits that only appear on the spirit board can use the charecters default. it makes sense lore-wise why charecters can't appear with their default costumes in WOL

Ignoring the Geno Mii Costume since it was added later, Sheik was still a pretty lousy way to represent Geno in his Spirit Battle. I personally think the best possible option would have been Mega Man in his brown alt

Eggman's spirit should've been on Midgar with Scrap Brain playing. That would give the sense that you're fighting on his home turf.

One other one I’d personally fix is fawful, i feel like it would be much better to face a giant kirby in his dark alt, who will spawn after you defeat bowser in his blue alt (who will turn giant after taking a lot of damage)

For the Blooper spirit, I would love to change the Inklings running away from you to fighting you. No way they avoid you in the Mario platformers, they are the bane of my existence in water levels. Edit: Blooper is not in the vid sadly

It straight up angers me that the toad spirit uses a mii with the toad suit and the super mushroom hat even though there is a literally toad hat.

I made a spirit battle for every boss in SMO :) Madame Broodal: Peach in red alt with a large golden PAC Man Topper: Luigi in normal colors Harriet: Daisy in blue alt and the only items are explosives Rango: Yellow mega man that spans neutral special Spewart: Donkey Kong with white alt and poison floor Knuckletoc: Kirby in blue alt with an invisible little mac who only uses neutral B with icy floor Torkdrift: White ROB with the blow vacuum item Mechawiggler: Purple Yoshi with super scope in reference to the tanks used to fight the mechawiggler Mollusque-Lanceur: Purple inkling who mostly uses up+B but can use other moves Cookatiel: Falco with red alt with a lava floor Ruined Dragon: Ridley in default colors with electric floor Bowser: Bowser with a lava floor Mechabroodal: Large ROB with green/brown alt with 3 small red falcos, with only explosives and the ROB is distracted by explosives

The idea of having (almost) no one in the base custom is only applied to spirits that appear in the (rightfully ignored) story mode, were lore says that they are "clones" so they have to have a different custom

Just so you know, the reason why Mallow is Robin is because Mallow is the mage of the team, able to use various elements for attacks. So you're kinda right that Kirby is closer to the look and Robin is closer to the function

For the ‘kid’ spirit, you could also have peaches/daisies spamming forward smash with the golf club!

I think it would be funny if the Happy Mask Salesman was just Mario in his purple alt (since he has a Mario mask on his bag)

I would change the Pauline spirit battle to be in omega 75m instead of normal 75m because that stage sucks and makes the battle terrible

You forgot to mention Rex got a mii fighter costume that could be used in his spirit battle

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The thing that always bothered me was the fact that Kyogre and Groudon can rank up to their primal form but mega Rayquaza was a no go

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Glad that the icon himself, Strollin Stu, is slowly becoming more and more important in the Odyssey Central lore

Geno is from space so the stage choice indeed makes sense

It's about time for some of these

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I think the reason Waluigi is fought on Peach's Castle is because of the bumper, which is one of the hazards in Waluigi's Pinball course. Gooey is dark blue so I think dark Kirby actually fits better than light blue Kirby. It might even be a nod to Gooey's relation to Dark Matter.

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What has me surprised is that Blaze the Cat's spirit isn't a Lucina mod, or even a subtype where it's a spirit for Sir Percival- Laura Bailey voiced both Lucina and Blaze.

Request: Making a Spirit battle for every boss from Cuphead (not including the DLC bosses when they come out).

Oh my goodness Odyssey Central posted a new video my day has gotten 25% more better.

One that I feel needs a change is the Smoky Progg cause outside the Stage it makes no sense at all Mario as a fighter makes no sense given it's a frog like creature so give it a K Rool or Ivysaur for the fighter. Making it occasionally be metal I mean its immune to poison but it literally emits poison gas from its body as it walks so change it to a Poison floor or fog (to represent the smoke). Also its boost as a spirit to give the player Urina (idk how to spell it) makes no sense when again Poison based stuff is a mechanic in the game. And if the issue is that it's the first spirit in the game... then put a Mario spirit first and just put the Smoky Progg a bit later

Fun fact in the instruction manual for dreamland two or three I forgot with one you do actually see gooey as a black blob instead of a blue one

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9:04 Petey Piranha has a normal spirit but you need to enhance nipper plant.

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Wouldn't one of the Belmonts be better for the Hammer Bros spirit because of the Axe? I mean it travels in the same arc as it, it goes through blocks, and is closer to a hammer than Yoshis egg.

Odyssey is my favorite Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Spirit youtuber

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I would actually change the Iron Golem to a white Donkey Kong, to better represent the fact that Iron Golems are physical brutes

Actually, the ghast being metallic/artificial has some lore significance. In an official book that officially confirmed a bunch of theories to be true (such as the creeper having a TNT inside of it and being plant like) also directly shows us that a ghast is made of redstone components. This is straight up an official source of lore too btw.

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Fun Idea: Giving a spirit battle to every playable character in Smash Ultimate

Another obvious change to make is to make the Aegislash spirit represented by Pyra/Mythra. They're literally the Aegis.

I think the reason why shadow isn't a black sonic is because the devs considered the possibility that a player could confuse the enemy with the assist trophy

For the Shadow spirit battle, I like to think the blue Sonic is supposed to reference how Shadow and Sonic were originally supposed to be equals. Also before they decided to start using the default alts.

11:44 there is a theory that the ghast is a robot, but i think they just did that for the color

Loved the video dude! Are you considering making one making a no-no Sans Undertale spirit?

“Strollin’ Bozo” really got me and I don’t know why.

The shadow spirit is the one that I was confused because they should have use the black alt for sonic I glad you fix that

Fun fact: in rex’s old Spirit battle the floor was fire do you need a fire resistant spirit to beat the spirit battle Correct me if I’m wrong

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Bruh, i went to bed last night and you had 98.5k subs, and now you have 98.6?! Good job my dude!

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When dry bones doesn’t even get a spirit LMAO

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I like mask seller battle because it's like he corrupted Link and order it to battle, if deku link was playable it will make sense for me too.

Would one of the larger videos be ranking all moons? For whatever reason i get the feeling that one would take a while

I agree with everything honestly. But I got the Piranha Plant screaming had me dead for about 5 minutes😂.

1:26 “Dry Bones for Smash!”

1:49 Wario’s Bike doesn’t get a Spirit, but fucking Wii Fit poses do. Get it together, Nintendo.

11:40 in an official mincraft guide book the Ghast is explained to be a robot, so I think it might be a suuuuuper deep cut. Might be a stretch though and they just wanted some variation lol

One change I’d make is change the Lucina for a Byleth in the Mòrag spirit since Byleth's weapon resembles Mòrag's weapon the closest! Also, play the Xenoblade games, they’re truly incredible games

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I can understand your issue with the defaults being better, but I think the reason Sakurai went with changing palettes a lot was to link with World of Light's lore on spirits and the clones. I personally didn't mind that decisions since I do like details that make things more fleshed and planned out, but I can see where the issue lies. Side note, I love that game mode, despite what the fanbase says.

The Spirit Battle for The Odyssey is actually programmed wrong. The conditions list says it uses the "enemy is hard to launch" condition, but in the actual battle, the "easy to launch" effect is applied instead. This can be easily seen by the fact that the easy to launch effect makes the launch physics floatier, while the hard to launch effect makes the physics stiffer. It also increases the knockback the opponent (Jigglypuff) takes from set knockback moves like the first hit of Chrom's up B, and in Ultimate, set knockback moves ignore all knockback modifiers in the game EXCEPT the easy to launch effect in Spirit Battles. I think this actually breaks the Spirit Battle, as the other conditions are that Jigglypuff is giant and she shields often. If the hard to launch effect were applied properly, Jigglypuff would be a lot more resistant to knockback, so the easiest way to KO her within the time limit would likely be to break her shield, which as we all know KO's Jigglypuff instantly. Perhaps this represents the Odyssey getting damaged and crashing...idk but this seems to be how you were INTENDED to beat the Spirit Battle, but because they applied the wrong effect, Jigglypuff is trivially easy to KO normally.

Dang I got here quicker than I thought. :/ Also as someone who likes Spirits and wishes they could be better. I really like this video's idea. Can't wait to see it. :)

To be fair, gooey has attacks that resembles zero 2 and using the dark Kirby alt represents that.

01:24 dry bones for smash ?

i have an idea for the happy mask salesman (i havent played the entirety of mm yet so if i say something that doesnt make sense sorry but imma do my research) if you choose richter as he looks the closest but he doesnt attack much and would try to avoid the player but that would be dumb if it wasnt for also having young link there but how it works is you only need to kill the happy mask salesman as mm link would (probably) be screwed without him

I'm surprised the Tiki Tak Tribe spirit battle wasn't covered in this video. It resembles them to absolutely zero extent other than the music being from Country Returns. So here's what I thought of instead: Seven Mii fighters wearing a Skull Kid mask to match the tribal aesthetic of the Tikis' designs and some other outfit (haven't thought of which one yet). One of the first four will start with a Pokéball containing a Meloetta, and your left and right controls will reverse, nodding to how they use their music to hypnotize.

I think the reason that the Shadow spirit is represented by Sonic alt 3, is because Shadow did originate in Sonic Adventure 2, and since Sonic didn’t have his Soap Shoes in the game, but the Crystal rings on Sonic r actually a reference to what he wears in the first Adventure game, so I guess it kinda makes sense, but then again it’s weird they didn’t use the black alt

Mallow's trademark is his ability to use lightning based attacks. Kirby is shaped like him, but Robin has more lightning skills of different strengths, just as Mallow does. Mii Gunner as a stand in for Geno is fine enough since Geno is all about projectiles and never gets in close.

For the Andross one I think Old Manondorf fits perfectly I mean, Andross is very malevolent DK is not that. You do the math

Gooey being Black Kirby might be a reference to Gooey being part of the Dark Matter “Species” but even then I still agree they should have gone with blue Kirby Maybe it could start a blue Kirby and once you ko them a giant dark Kirby can appear to represent that but as it stands it’s just really weird

also the great idea of fixing any spirit i just got an idea so the spirit vs diancie i really want something is fixed so the main fighter is peach white color to match the same dress color and 4 tiny blue kirbys to make sure these 4 tiny blue kirbys match the same as the carbinks, also the main goal vs the spirit is beat the main fighter to win

Video idea: all mk8dx trick animations ranked, similar to the taunt rankings!

Can you please do a level by level episode on luncheon kingdom or wodden kingdom please :)

Why so much hate on rosalina?

for the happy masked salesmen i would make it a series battle where you fight characters based on the mask salesmens different maskss

Actually, the dark kirby alt is very dark blue to represent meta knight. (Read in very obnoxious nerd voice like in the bit about the bomb bomb spirit.)

Will there be another part of this topic?

When choosing a character, most people use their default costume. Most of the spirits use alts to not confuse new players

I've said this once, and I'll say it again: Smash Ultimate is the perfect game for KZfaqrs, because a game which such a massive amount of content as this game is bound to have plenty of minor nitpick-able details within it for people to talk about in their videos.

The link in the Botw Zelda has the skyloft alt based off the old shirt at the start of botw I still think it makes more sense for his default outfit thi

No one: All Wii Fit Spirits: I’ve been free!

I think the reason why the pre dlc spirits didn’t use defaults is that they were made for WOL where the defaults are the main characters, so it wouldn’t make sense to free a character only to see them again being evil

the sonic alt in shadows battle is supposed to represent sonic himself. the reason they didnt choose the default option was because of the equipment sonic gets in the sonic adventure games one that looks really similar to his glowing wristband

@Odyssey Central Could you do A Video Making EVERY Bendy And The Ink Machine Spirit Battle For Smash Ultimate (that Also Includes Boris And The Dark Survival Bendy In Nightmare Run And Bendy And The Dark Revival?)

For the Happy Mask Salesman, the fight could be against purple Richter with small Meta Knight minions representing the masks.

The Reason Why The Nipper Plant Spirit Has The Super Mario Maker Stage Frozen In The Super Mario World Is Because They Appeared In Yoshi’s Island To Which Was Originally Released On The Same Console As Super Mario World.

Luigi officially now the best Eggplant Man

I feel like with the differences in Spirit Battles and Classic Mode for Minecraft it’s just so the content doesn’t feel too redundant? That’s my guess.

I think Sonic's appearance in the Shadow fight is a reference to Sonic Adventure as a whole; His blue alt. has blue wristbands, which are a reference to the Crystal Ring from Sonic Adventure.

If we're going to be changing Spirit Battles I'd like to mention that despite his Mii Costume coming back, Knuckles The Echidna *doesn't* have a spirit *at all.* So on top of giving the Tails Spirit his Mii Costume if purchased for the Spirit Battle I'd say we give Knuckles a Spirit Battle of his own with either Mario in his default costume (which would reference the rivalry both SEGA & Nintendo and their respective fanbases had in the process) or Roy/Ike (which references both Sir Gawain from Sonic and the Black Knight and Knuckles association with fire in some games) if you didn't own the costume like how if you didn't have the Cuphead Mii Costume it would be Mega Man instead. The stage would be either Palutena's Temple (which references Sky Sanctuary and it doesn't matter which form it's in) or Tortimer Island in either Ω or Battlefield form and the music would be Angel Island Zone. Now for a Spirit Battle I'd change. Tora and Poppi α. While it is nice that they picked someone who has glasses/goggles, *Jigglypuff* is the last character I would've picked. I would've gone with either a Yellow or Orange Luigi instead which references the numerous time Luigi has been depicted to tinker with machines (and also matches Tora's fur and orveralls) or an orange/yellow Kirby which references both Kirby Planet Robobot and the not so well known fact that Kirby is a genius with machines (he literally pilots the Robobot Armors without struggling with the controls and several of the Air Rides in Kirby Air Ride are more machine-like rather than Star-like) while Poppi is represented by a Mii Brawler in the Maid outfit while wearing a Lacy Headband in both her and Tora's Spirit Battles. I'm not sure I'd keep the other fighters in Poppi α's Spirit Battle considering one of the represents a late game form for Poppi and have her be a Mii Fighter in the Maid outfit while wearing a Lacy Headband represents both the weird ideas Tora's family has and Poppi's second form QT. But if she had to be represented in her α form specifically I'd go with the Bionic Suit while keeping the Dixie Kong's Hat instead, the Chibi Robo Outfit just doesn't look right but if the Mii Gunner did have to be used then I'd used the same outfit combo from before. The Maid outfit is available for all of the Mii Fighters so it would still work. Not sure what to do about Poppi's final form though.

It's a bit of a stretch but I think that the Sonic in the Shadow spirit is possibly meant to represent Maria? That would make it an even stranger choice, but it would explain the Light Blue alt