Fixing what YouTube couldn’t. - ThioJoe Spammer Purge
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KZfaq’s spam problem has gotten out of hand… And it’s up to the community once again to do what KZfaq can’t. Thankfully, the community has delivered…
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
0:45 How KZfaq filters Spam
2:19 The Solution
3:25 How it works
5:24 Using it on LTT Videos
7:30 Users have a role to play!
8:23 LTT's Plan..
9:16 Why didn't KZfaq do this?
11:04 Outro
@ThioJoe 2 жыл бұрын
Hugely appreciate it 👍 I just got so fed up with the spammers I decided to pull a thanos and do it myself ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@Gagging_Gagster 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
@Complexity03 2 жыл бұрын
Was trying to find a comment from you on here, then I see it and it says "42 seconds ago"
@shervin. 2 жыл бұрын
You are doing god's work
@basshead. 2 жыл бұрын
i was here
@GoodGooseThingit 2 жыл бұрын
You did a great job at creating it!
@talravid8518 2 жыл бұрын
Two weeks later, KZfaq : "We've detected a Mass Report Raids and we Decided to Remove the Report Button"
@zders2569 2 жыл бұрын
It's too political, so they totally should! (Assuming it increases there Profits)
@zunriya 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@peterw1534 2 жыл бұрын
Ha! That's hilarious. I could totally see that happening..
@sultanofsick 2 жыл бұрын
Only if the mass reporting raids disagree with their agenda.
@sol_in.victus 2 жыл бұрын
or it'll just be like instagram and be completely useless
@Whopcap 2 жыл бұрын
ThioJoe is the one who lived long enough to see himself become the Hero
@whannabi 2 жыл бұрын
Let's hope he doesn't live long enough to see himself become a bad guy
@0x00Fyou 2 жыл бұрын
@@simtelefon I can't believe how many people fell for the "Changing the oil in your PC" video. Literally can't believe how many people thought their PC's had literal oil inside of them.
@Lou-yf1jo 2 жыл бұрын
modern people bullied the comedian and now made him boring.
@0x00Fyou 2 жыл бұрын
@@simtelefon It also didn't help the fact that people were bullying because they thought he stole Jacksfilm's YIAY format when he was doing those "Reading your comments" videos first, before Jack came out wit his first Jackask episode.
@dmarsub Жыл бұрын
@@simtelefon ahead of his time? Lol that basic humor exist since the dawn of the internet.
@dynxmit3official920 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq as a company has seriously gown down the drain over the years.
@NotEnvyyKing 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, their quality really went down a lot.
@stellviahohenheim 2 жыл бұрын
But at the same time they're a growing monopoly
@sta5011 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Its corporate bullshit now
@joebanks3698 Жыл бұрын
KZfaq is owned by Google
@captain4865 Жыл бұрын
Lazy asf people
@JarrodsTech 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back to another episode of "KZfaqrs: Fine, I'll do it myself."
@handlemonium 2 жыл бұрын
😏
@jungervin8765 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq only caring about the censorship.
@Skyflairl2p 2 жыл бұрын
@@jungervin8765 hurt feelings are louder than victims of scam after all! Mostly because its so easy (seemingly easier than ever) to have your feelings hurt nowadays.
@user-ij8bz5sn2b 2 жыл бұрын
Here to watch to comment above mine get deleted in an hour or so. Let's get a live action test of the system :D
@TheRealFoxFire 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-ij8bz5sn2b waiting with you
@ogshotcallerz 2 жыл бұрын
I love when people take an idea, implement it, and are considerably more successful than a large corporate group.
@danieltanuwijaya7675 2 жыл бұрын
@Mitzuko And here it is.
@athe5217 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry guys, I'll report it, no need to thank me
@shravan1005 2 жыл бұрын
@Mitzuko oh my fucking god
@ogshotcallerz 2 жыл бұрын
What the…
@Yami_Industries 2 жыл бұрын
Well yeah of course people facing a problem first hand are able to develop a way to solve the problem better than a corporation who doesn't face the problem first hand
@samihamchev9528 2 жыл бұрын
Now that Jacksepticeye and Cr1tikal have done videos about this huge problem, we should share this video with as many people as possible and let them know that the community already has a solution
@liriodendronlasianthus 2 жыл бұрын
Somebody start a thread on Twitter? That seems like the only place they check and listen to.
@samihamchev9528 2 жыл бұрын
@@liriodendronlasianthus I already tweeted about it but so far nothing
@stellviahohenheim 2 жыл бұрын
If Google doesn't want spam on their website it'll be gone a long time ago think about it
@SEEYAIAYE 2 жыл бұрын
@OneFortyFour They'll only care if the spammers are taking the money away from them.
@thefatpikachuchannel7672 Жыл бұрын
Charlie made a video about it? Can you send me a link to it?
@UltimaJC 2 жыл бұрын
I'm old enough to remember ThioJoe's troll videos. He's lived long enough to become the hero.
@abhijeetas7886 2 жыл бұрын
he indeed did. i remember making my internet faster than light after making a fire hazard at house as a kid with laughable internet speed
@theoutcastvirus2792 2 жыл бұрын
Pro tip for Linus: You don't have to create multiple accounts to get past the api call limit: All you have to do is to create more API keys to get more API calls for your main account.
@Skywalker8510 2 жыл бұрын
does replying to a comment push it higher up?
@theoutcastvirus2792 2 жыл бұрын
@@Skywalker8510 maybe? But thanks for replying anyways!
@Velkanis 2 жыл бұрын
hey glad im not the only one, here bump
@sparkyenergia 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if this actually works but its worth a try so, up you go little comment.
@Meatsweats_o_O 2 жыл бұрын
porkchop sandwiches
@AntVenom 2 жыл бұрын
I love seeing this app get the attention it deserves. Not all heroes wear capes.
@MalteSpieltYT 2 жыл бұрын
It really is quite awesome seeing the community come together!
@ayyteen 2 жыл бұрын
It’s an incredible first step, glad to see KZfaqrs like ThioJoe work on the scam bot problem. Kinda weird how Google isn’t doing it themselves though.
@JAofficialsubscribe 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, its great to see.
@philballanimations2912 2 жыл бұрын
Community strong
@Herobrine100x 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't expect you here
@DatBisa 2 жыл бұрын
As you went through it explaining, I already really liked how through this whole thing was as a moderation tool. But when you got around to the ability to scan foreign content and mass-report spam my jaw hit the floor at hyperlight speed. That's such an incredibly obvious, but just as easy to overlook inclusion into this kind of app that really elevates it from a "neat little community tool" (the type that large platfrom's APIs are usually spedifically made for), into a genuine weapon to actually fight the problem. Awesome to see that Thio thought that one step further and ended up creating such a powerful and versatile tool.
@therelaxedguy 2 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful - lots of my live streams have awful spam (and regular comments). Thank you so much
@lunar5355 2 жыл бұрын
👍 Just subscribed to your channel! Glad I saw your comment and checked you out!!
@therelaxedguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@lunar5355 oh thank you and I hope you will enjoy. Hopefully with less and less spam going forward :)
@JCel 10 ай бұрын
1 year later and I'm wondering how it is going. Would love to hear about that
@liemnguyenhuu7492 2 жыл бұрын
YT right now: "As planned. One day YT will be ran completely by the community, and all we have to do is collecting Ads revenue."
@durandle9226 2 жыл бұрын
yeah more a thing of they just don't care or at least no one with the permission to do anything about it cares
@pif5023 2 жыл бұрын
Damn this really irks me because I really believe companies are going in this direction whenever they can. They just push the problem to the customer and reap the profits.
@evangreavu9621 2 жыл бұрын
Was the script used on this video? The comment section is clean instead of every top comment having trash XXX spam
@Jacob_Overby 2 жыл бұрын
@@pif5023 seems like every company been a huge piece of shit lately
@NorbiPeti 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be fine with that personally. Just using PeerTube instead, so no ads or any bs.
@THEANATOLIEN 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq has been blessed with being able to annoy everyone on the platform except the advertisers as much as they can
@Theinatoriinator 2 жыл бұрын
@アイカナ BRUH literally the exact thing this video is designed to teach awareness and prevention about.
@kylo_mylo1088 2 жыл бұрын
The irony is painful
@drizitgaming 2 жыл бұрын
Time to run the script again.
@very025 2 жыл бұрын
@アイカナ LETS GOOOOO
@anonanonymous9670 2 жыл бұрын
@アイカナ OH CMON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Mr.man712 2 жыл бұрын
Just goes to show that one persons passion can beat a companys standards, be it in video games, cooking or software the rule still applies.
@stephenmusic69420 2 жыл бұрын
damn the thiojoe fake tech tips were hilarious when i was in middle school, weird and awesome to see him making an actually useful tool
@MakersMuse 2 жыл бұрын
The accusation of censorship is really annoying because we can't even restore the comments as creators, they just get blipped out of existence... YT is a total garbage pile these days
@christianwatt2924 2 жыл бұрын
doesn't seem to matter too lTT Linus just openly admitting censoring comments in this video and nobody seems to care
@tinto278 2 жыл бұрын
Support the truckies you soy boy pc
@Emforay 2 жыл бұрын
hate it when i'm writing a big tech help comment and it's gone. repost without any possibly questionable words, totally rephrased, still gone. don't even feel the desire anymore. comments aren't for discussion at this point, just for jokes
@tinto278 2 жыл бұрын
@@Emforay The people in the comments are not real people. Its all fake and people like you are just screaming into the void of cyberspace.
@nathanielletourneau9952 2 жыл бұрын
@@tinto278 you good buddy?
@AnglesSol 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq later: “There has been frequent mass reporting during the last moth, and thus we are removing the report option”
@stormcloudsabound 2 жыл бұрын
See you in 2023!
@StitchExperiment626 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, sounds like an actual move youtube could do...
@meow_meow_J 2 жыл бұрын
Please don’t jinx it
@Tekwyzard 2 жыл бұрын
Is that before or after noticing increasing numbers of folk using scripts like ThioJoe's then blocking their ability to work properly because they' decide they should be detected as bots or something? Instead of them just using all the resources and computing power they have themselves to do the job properly.
@DrakkarCalethiel 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds so out of whack and stupid that google might actually do it. Google likes doing out of the ordinary stuff no platform user will benefit from after all.
@ceci_sph 2 жыл бұрын
it’s so nice to go to comments in this video and them not being full of spammers replying:’) haven’t had that for more than a year
@ChristopherWoods 2 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely fabulous. Totally support and I will be running this periodically on videos where I notice influxes of spam comments to mass report. Far faster than reporting individually, which I've been doing for quite some time, and is particularly laborious!
@polymerizedrecords 2 жыл бұрын
Been subbed to ThioJoe since he changed his content to actual tech tips. He's the closest thing to a reformed villain we've got.
@aimanrahman5768 2 жыл бұрын
I still can't trust his videos
@BeeJay120 2 жыл бұрын
Up until now I thought he still made useless videos and haven't watched any of them for the last decade as I just passed them off as satire.
@VivekYadav-ds8oz 2 жыл бұрын
@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw As long as you use your own common sense, you can pretty easily rely on his content.
@psbakre 2 жыл бұрын
@@VivekYadav-ds8oz thats the point. I watched his videos when I was technically illiterate (not illiterate. Just in tech). Even if I knew he doesnt post satire anymore, child me still says no risk taking with him
@slavboii420 2 жыл бұрын
Heck even his joke vids are nice. I mean they are so blatantly obvious that I don't understand why people even fall for it
@jamesborb4255 2 жыл бұрын
It's definitely a "wouldn't" on KZfaq/Google's side. They have hundreds of developers with tens of years of experience on all the KZfaq coding environment and they could pull something like this as optimized as possible in a snap of fingers
@TheUltimateBlooper 2 жыл бұрын
100% - there's got to be something that benefits THEM from the spam. Maybe "engagement" metrics? Who knows, but they definitely won't do it properly. But they DO shadow-ban your comments at random, which always sucks...
@yuvanmichael 2 жыл бұрын
Like Thanos
@ratwaatshorts6262 2 жыл бұрын
It's a big company decisions take a long time to get implemented
@xxdarkzon3xx 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, this is so simple and already technically implemented (because is youtube api) that i wouldnt be surprised if they just missed it.
@AlphaMachina 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing. KZfaq deletes my comments constantly, but I still see spam from actual bots everywhere. Blows my mind.
@ThunderBlastvideo 2 жыл бұрын
Its awesome to see LTT finally shining a light on this guy. Hes the best
@benilginocchio 2 жыл бұрын
This is quite a great idea, a problem that I can see with it however is that the report feature can be easily be abused and as Linus mentioned it's easy to bypass the api limits by simply using multiple alts (according to TheOutcastVirus it's also possible to do so by creating multiple api keys) such that it becomes a matter of numbers in the reports of good/bad comments, which has the potential to effectively render the report useless.
@OLBarbok 2 жыл бұрын
Finally he is getting some attention from more big creators for this
@_yuri 2 жыл бұрын
what a shame spam already on your comment
@sayanmajumder5931 2 жыл бұрын
@Beatrix__________👇💕 ur kidding me
@thechuches3879 2 жыл бұрын
haha the spamers are incredible
@arshilahmad9811 2 жыл бұрын
@Beatrix__________👇💕 Hi Anthony
@Finical_ 2 жыл бұрын
@Beatrix__________👇💕 are you fking kidding me?
@LifeWithMatthew 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq watches this video: "He's right! We need to take immediate action" Removes thumbs down option entirely and changes KZfaq studio interface.
@shravan1005 2 жыл бұрын
Replying to see how this ages
@Vandassar 2 жыл бұрын
Might as well remove the thumbs up button, sub counter and views too. This will help the smaller creators feel like they are all the same. Everyone will be the same. There will be no deviation from doing what we tell you to do.
@ArdentMoogle 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vandassar Just remove videos too. Everyone's the same if there's no content.
@natzuft 2 жыл бұрын
And thinks about NFTs
@NoahBuehler 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vandassar Hey let's do that! Let's go Comunism! Definitely never ended bad...
@zuzoscorner 2 жыл бұрын
This API sounds like a godsend for any sort of content creator that gets flooded with spam. Keep up the good work
@slickstretch6391 2 ай бұрын
Not only has KZfaq not done this, but I won't be surprised if KZfaq puts a stop to it.
@OriginalRaveParty 2 жыл бұрын
As KZfaq tries to ruin itself, the user base have decided not to let it.
@protonjinx 2 жыл бұрын
could you imagine how screwed youtube would be if they got everything they wanted?
@jaynee8581 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevexracer4309 I'm not american so would you mind enlightening me?
@ETHANR26 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaynee8581 news, politician videos, etc. Basically everything youtube forces down people's throats, gets destroyed by dislikes
@xCrossCat 2 жыл бұрын
If these comunity members were to make a competing site, youtube would be dead in a couple of years
@ronnie3044 2 жыл бұрын
@Erik Müller I don’t think so since they could’ve just removed them for that video specifically. Plus I doubt KZfaq cares that it’s once a year video gets disliked.
@MalcolmMerlyn 2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing! I am really happy big creators are getting involved in fighting scams. I can't believe KZfaq doesn't do more, removing the Dislike button was the single dumbest thing they could have done, and quite frankly, I don't understand why disliking comments does nothing as well.
@MrScorpianwarrior 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, they didn't remove the dislike *button*, but made it next to useless.
@TheMightyZwom 2 жыл бұрын
My guess would be that any kind of engagement (be it positive or negative) means more klicks, more ad revenue and thus more money for KZfaq. They would be stupid to stop spammers, if it reduced their own income...
@therealkarlmarx1818 2 жыл бұрын
yes
@mrlodwick 2 жыл бұрын
Mal you Rock!
@rawdez_ 2 жыл бұрын
pretty soon they'll also start prosecuting and putting in jail "pirates" (thats those of us who run ad blockers). linus is a joke.
@FroobTubeLIVE 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing info all-around. Glad to know this stuff exists! Hopefully KZfaq will do something with this program or a version of their own.
@bentsivertsen4968 2 жыл бұрын
ThioJoe is the biggest turnaround of a tech channel. I appreciate that.
@TheKnightofSand 2 жыл бұрын
Huh, a comment section not filled with spam actually makes me want to comment. Great job, ThioJoe!!
@____________________________.x 2 жыл бұрын
Oh noe’s, my head is stuck in the washing machine, pls help! 🤭
@Dualities 2 жыл бұрын
it is instead filled with verify KZfaqrs abusers
@zer0legend109 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dualities lol, they have the right to comment same as u, it's not called abuse, not just because u consider that as such
@Dualities 2 жыл бұрын
@CreativeUnoriginals hahaha. u guys clearly have no idea that KZfaq is literally the biggest bussines in the world
@Dualities 2 жыл бұрын
@@zer0legend109 yeah but I don't post pretenitius caring or popular comments and abuse verified tag so that my comments get pushed to the top no matter what I comment
@Nevir202 2 жыл бұрын
I suspect YT won't, I think the spam comments actually artificially boost average engagement on the platform, and thus make it look more appealing to advertisers.
@ziltoid2567 2 жыл бұрын
This guy's got it.
@Fuad_ 2 жыл бұрын
You are a genius
@Derlaft 2 жыл бұрын
Or comments are already sheduled for removal, along with dislike button.
@gideonsiete1868 2 жыл бұрын
Bingo. I see the same thing with bogus spam clicks on my Google Ads. They win either way so there's not much incentive to fight it.
@bluehampar 2 жыл бұрын
I think their sorting also pushes those comments down so that most users won't see them and if most users don't see them it's not an issue for them I guess
@justin-hurd 2 жыл бұрын
Lovin' that framework laptop, huh, linus? I hope they keep growing as a company. I dream of a day where they get their hands on Wacom tech and we can build our own 2-in-1's
@Dr.Schnizzle 2 жыл бұрын
He is an investor, so I’m not surprised that he’s promoting it. That being said, I also think that the concept and the company are super cool, and I want to see them become mainstream.
@nickwallette6201 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dr.Schnizzle He's an investor because he wants it to succeed. There's personal gain, and personal gain via universal gain -- aka, rising tides and whatnot. Linus is leveraging the latter.
@MistralDreamer 3 ай бұрын
Something like that seriously is needed for Twitter since it's flooded by bots and scammers
@ZeldagigafanMatthew 2 жыл бұрын
Considering how simple it was for Joe to make, I'm leaning towards Google making the decision to not take action on this...
@gormauslander 2 жыл бұрын
@@zhongxina6621 This is entirely not the point.
@thewiirocks 2 жыл бұрын
I'm leaning toward "won't" because this problem is stupidly simple for the type of AI that Google regularly employs. And if you've ever had an experience with Google moderation before, you probably know that they're worse than awful. I once reported a fake SpaceX channel full of nothing but Muslim videos to pad it out and a few Bitcoin scam videos to sucker users. The moderators didn't see anything wrong with the channel and told me I was wrong to report it! Last time I tried to be helpful....
@JamesJose00 2 жыл бұрын
@@zhongxina6621 I agree with the first user who replied to you that this is not the point. But I also checked the contribution stats on the GitHub repository. Thio has made 28k additions to the repo, while the next biggest contributor has made 108. Where did you get this statement from?
@AcidDaBomb 2 жыл бұрын
Theres no way a google engineer couldn't have thought of this himself.
@chiefdenis 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq absolutely doesn't give a fuck
@BingleBangleBungle 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq is too busy pandering to corporate interests and fine tuning their algorithms for them. One novice programmer was able to fix the problem and this is proof enough for me that KZfaq doesn't care.
@Dualities 2 жыл бұрын
Ironic when u realize all top comments here are KZfaq verify tag abusers. their comments get pushed to the top and they usally post good-willed comments just to get subs from kids. Until KZfaq doesn't remove vertiy tag (automatically push their comments tot he top no matter what they post) the KZfaq will stay broken. 509% of channels on youtube are boosted. 50% of good willed comments on youtube ar either bots or sub booster. we turned content creation into business.
@minecraftcb8745 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dualities for the most part I agree, but a lot of people on the platform want to get that internet recognition high, and proceed to seek out checkmark commenters with the intent to be the first to reply.
@grn1 2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually subscribed to ThioJoe and have been using and promoting this tool for a while now. I'm glad to see it being pushed by a big channel as that hopefully means that a lot more creators will start to use it as well as a lot more viewers (like myself).
@nickackermanchannel 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely Implementing this tool, getting these annoying What's Apps comments too often! Looking forward to KZfaq improving on this!
@dylbarton 2 жыл бұрын
I would love more types of videos like this: Interesting, open source, but still relevant to lots of people (as opposed to something so niche that people won't care to watch). Right now when building computer's is just impossible for a lot of people, this type of content is very cool.
@ozturkberkayy 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@eichenherzmo 2 жыл бұрын
Great Idea
@leonmuller8475 2 жыл бұрын
It could also help generally to discover useful tools that went under the radar. There surely are a lot of helpful tools, that are really helpful, but simply did not have people making them publicly known.
@Dualities 2 жыл бұрын
Ironic when u realize all top comments here are KZfaq verify tag abusers. their comments get pushed to the top and they usally post good-willed comments just to get subs from kids. Until KZfaq doesn't remove vertiy tag (automatically push their comments tot he top no matter what they post) the KZfaq will stay broken. 509% of channels on youtube are boosted. 50% of good willed comments on youtube ar either bots or sub booster. we turned content creation into business.
@leonmuller8475 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dualities Ironic when you realize that the comment you posted is beneath a non verified Channel. Yet otherwise still fits your description (this comment gets pushed to the top and is good willed) " Until KZfaq doesn't remove vertiy tag [...] the KZfaq will stay broken" The verify Tag is important, though. Otherwise, it would be even harder to distinguish genuine comments from bots. Yes, parts about it are broken, but the system itself is beneficial. "509% of channels on youtube are boosted" What is boosted? If all channels are boosted anyway, is that a problem? "we turned content creation into business" Yeah? Content creation has been a business for 2500+ years. (First it was engravings, Statues, Paintings, now it has become Games, Books, Movies and much more) What is your point?
@RizalBoon 2 жыл бұрын
I really like how ThioJoe made the script very friendly and clear with the colorings on the text. I hope that more scripts out there do more like this. I'm looking at you Linux.
@giomjava 2 жыл бұрын
hell yeah
@zackinator1439 2 жыл бұрын
Many things on Linux are "less friendly" because one of the major things about Linux that its users love it the ability to chain programs together and use them in scripts. So many programs try to find a happy middle ground between human understable and parsable via script or other programs. However, many programs actually have separate "interactive" modes, or will behave differently depending on whether or not its output is being sent somewhere else for further processing, so yes, Linux programs have fancy colors and stuff too. And for the standard programs that don't, most people don't care. But that's the beauty of Linux and open source. If you do care, replace those programs with ones that behave more to your preference. For instance, the default cat program doesn't have fancy colors, but there's alternatives that do. And the current cat program has grown some new features over the years that some users consider "bloat", and there's simplier versions to suit those people's preferences. Whatever you want, someone's made it. And if you don't want to take the time to configure it yourself, someone else wrote a set of automated config scripts. Wanna take the plunge and do it manually? This guy wrote a guide on his blog.
@HazewinDog 4 ай бұрын
Agreed! I always spend a good chunk of time optimizing my scripts for user-friendliness, I think it's important.
@ensuredchaos8098 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like we're some sort of parent and KZfaq is a child, where KZfaq keeps pushing loads of buttons and screwing things up and we have to clean up their mess for them since they obviously won't do it themselves...
@Joeseanag24 2 жыл бұрын
Nah nah, other way around, KZfaq is the old parent and KZfaqrs is the Child who's grown up now
@neeN57240 2 жыл бұрын
Please keep making videos about these things I LOVE EM!
@ARitzCracker 2 жыл бұрын
Not even 10 seconds in, and I can tell that the editor definitely had a lot of fun
@criscrix3 2 жыл бұрын
This is genuinely one of the most interesting intros they've had in the recent past
@FlyingPigChannel 2 жыл бұрын
It’s an awesome intro
@ace.created 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo Linus for A) trying to share a very needed tool, B) for recognizing a fellow member of the community who is trying to do something positive KZfaq won't, and C) I would just love to see more videos like this, about people taking the reins and promoting solutions to problems, or just generally sharing your massive market with other creators who do things worth talking about.
@lopiklop 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq automatically hides negative comments, creating a circle jerk of praise and pride.
@hansynth 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you for implementing this ThioJoe!!
@man0warable 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: I've tried to recommend this tool to other channels 17 times, and each time my comments were instantly deleted. I'm glad someone big is finally bringing attention to this.
@maty2954 2 жыл бұрын
As a fellow programmer, I'm happy to see all these utilities done by just one person or a small team coming up and ending up being even better than what corporations can do.
@PhillipAmthor 2 жыл бұрын
yes but i think youtube did intentionally nothing because as Linus said this was just a one man job
@FlanPoirot 2 жыл бұрын
look at this source code, it's a mess.
@360.Tapestry 2 жыл бұрын
why would they? bot activity probably still looks like engagement lol
@KekusMagnus 2 жыл бұрын
Google could easily do better, they just dont care until it starts hurting their revenue
@AngryApple 2 жыл бұрын
yeah and this little Programm just uses the YT Api... imagine what Google could to with all the locked down metrics they have 🤦
@dannyramirez3875 2 жыл бұрын
As a programmer, F for those fallen with the false positives Your sacrifice will be remembered
@crashmatrix 2 жыл бұрын
You know what's up. I wonder how long before ThioJoe is getting publicly strung up.
@amogus3 2 жыл бұрын
F
@Stars-Mine 2 жыл бұрын
F
@opposite342 2 жыл бұрын
F
@at_ 2 жыл бұрын
The false positive rate is low but still there
@gavincstewart 4 ай бұрын
Awesome video, Linus!! It's so great that you brought attention to ThioJoe's amazing creation!! You guys are both the GOATs of tech KZfaq!!
@HaliOnRepeat 2 жыл бұрын
Every recent video still has a horrible spam problem. Great work, guys.
@angelslu2468 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone brings the DESERVED attention to ThioJoe
@DaCatmasterX 2 жыл бұрын
YES
@Hamox 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised
@inaweirdaccent 2 жыл бұрын
@Beatrix__________👇💕 this video is about this
@pixels_per_inch 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't that the guy that made misleading tech videos?
@supersquirrel7340 2 жыл бұрын
@@pixels_per_inch they were jokes
@Fantastic_Timez 2 жыл бұрын
Linus: I can't see why KZfaq wouldn't do anything about it Also KZfaq: removes the dislike button
@immortalnub 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it's probably better for YT to never touch their platform.
@gabby_5820 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how a one man army had more purpose than a team of experienced multimillonaire experts
@svkee1g 2 жыл бұрын
I really thought about this a lot. And finally someone made video about it. I hope this problem gonna fixed soon as possible,I hope so.
@Henchman1977 2 жыл бұрын
We all know KZfaq's response to this video will be to lock down the API that makes this possible.
@applmango 2 жыл бұрын
After all, KZfaq _is_ known to be the smartest company out there
@FunBoysGaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@applmango *Alphabet
@eideticex 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot, also state that small creators complained as the justification.
@laurencefraser 2 жыл бұрын
@@eideticex They like to use 'users' or 'accounts' rather than 'creators' most of the time, as that lets them remove tools that are Highly Useful and Widely Used by creators, on the basis that 'only a smaller percentage of users' use a feature... the sneaky part here, of course, is that everyone with an android device has a google, and thus youtube, account, and most of them (well, us, I fall into that category myself) don't Create anything on the platform!
@ThatRipOff 2 жыл бұрын
They'll come up with some bullshit excuse about "small creators being harmed by mass reports" and get rid of the whole thing.
@Super1337357 2 жыл бұрын
Every time a spammer leaves a message, KZfaq gets to charge advertisers a fraction of a penny for user engagement on a video with ads. That's why they can't remove spam messages.
@desktop_pilot 2 жыл бұрын
That's why they WON'T remove spam messages. This is a business decision not one based on consumer care.
@HerbaMachina 2 жыл бұрын
@@desktop_pilot honestly the advertisers should be putting pressure on KZfaq to do something about it because technically KZfaq would be complicit in allowing fraud to occur in order to benefit them.
@24680kong 2 жыл бұрын
@@HerbaMachina Don't give them any ideas. They'll just use this as an excuse to remove comments all together.
@HerbaMachina 2 жыл бұрын
@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw they do, but KZfaq isn't potentially distinguishing them from an impressions or ad viewer.
@project0332 2 жыл бұрын
wow ! i never thought that Thio Joe would do such an amazing tool to help youtubers !
@RDCST 2 жыл бұрын
The Dude flipping the table next to NUKE MODE is hilarious.😂
@ThisIsTechToday 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what KZfaq is doing sometimes...
@NihinduAngana 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh look here is spam
@smok3sho587 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think KZfaq knows what KZfaq is doing sometimes
@the_golden_s5682 2 жыл бұрын
@UCVJQvQWdeP7InPfy8UJX6Zg haha dumb bots linus hit em with it?
@ParadoxalDream 2 жыл бұрын
The bare minimum, that's what KZfaq does.
@theonewhobullies 2 жыл бұрын
@@NihinduAngana its just 2 mins ago. Maybe they will be gone by tomorrow.
@3v068 2 жыл бұрын
ThioJoe. Thank you for turning from the enemy we all hated, to the hero we all needed. It is greatly appreciated.
@SharatS 2 жыл бұрын
Why was he an enemy?
@3v068 2 жыл бұрын
@@SharatS the dude would make troll videos that would make kids do stupid shit to their computers. He eventually decided that he didn't want to do it anymore and started to release videos that had actual tech tips that were helpful.
@whannabi 2 жыл бұрын
@@3v068 that's on them lol. Every kid had to be scammed or something bad happening at some point to understand that they shouldn't trust everything (Even if you tell the kid, they'll probably forget or disobey because nothing bad happened yet). Everyone is overprotective in the 3.0 internet but if it doesn't happen now, it will later at some point.
@Bored__AF 2 жыл бұрын
@@3v068 absolutely true. I fell for his "double cores" troll 6 years ago. It somehow bricked my system and I needed to install a new one. At least that was the day I finally upgraded to windows 10 :) edit : The thing is, reason I fell for that is cuz I heard most cpus have hyperthreading (2x threads for each core) and uneducated me thought they needed to be "activated" somehow, cuz windows showed up my 2c/2t cpu as 1c/1t , even tho both cores worked.
@3v068 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bored__AF lol yeah man. Times were crazy back then. I'm glad people are stepping up and honestly stopping the scamming and exposing the scummy people who do. People who think that dumb people deserve to be scammed are people that shouldn't be trusted with anything.
@technicalman 2 жыл бұрын
Love that you guys have a passion for what you do. Thanks for the vid. Keep it up. As a software guy, I don't think it's computationally expensive to run these checks. They just don't...
@nickwallette6201 2 жыл бұрын
It would be en masse, but if you're YT, I would think the storage gains of being able to drop a non-trivial number of posts would probably make it worth a little more CPU time. Especially if you developed a scheduler to run it as an idle task that uses available processing power in between demand spikes.
@ChaoticNeutralMatt 2 жыл бұрын
Jack's recent video just led me back over. Good video covering this topic! It's ridiculous they've let this sit
@Studio23Media 2 жыл бұрын
The bots literally have conversations with each other now. 😂 Shoutout to Joe for this tool. It's crazy Google can't figure this out. Or maybe they don't want to...
@Interpause 2 жыл бұрын
unrelated but related, theres a subreddit of AI bots that talk to each other & its interactivr too called subsimGPT2interactive
@Interpause 2 жыл бұрын
@@cool_bug_facts yeah im kinda aware no need to remind me... btw GPT-2 is kinda old, some of the other derivatives of BERT are actually quite good yet feasible to run without clusters of TPUs oh & btw for the interactive bot subreddit, it aint just GPT2, you can use any architecture as long as you host it yourself & apply on their discord
@Dualities 2 жыл бұрын
Ironic when u realize all top comments here are KZfaq verify tag abusers. their comments get pushed to the top and they usally post good-willed comments just to get subs from kids. Until KZfaq doesn't remove vertiy tag (automatically push their comments tot he top no matter what they post) the KZfaq will stay broken. 509% of channels on youtube are boosted. 50% of good willed comments on youtube ar either bots or sub booster. we turned content creation into business.
@numberanother5630 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dualities And that's why you spam this everywhere XD Nice
@Dualities 2 жыл бұрын
@@numberanother5630 ironic isn't it :P
@vill2980 2 жыл бұрын
So that's why I've not seen any spams and scams recently. Truly remarkable work!
@MaaZeus 2 жыл бұрын
I actually thought that Google had finally fixed this shit but no, it was all thanks to this program. 😲
@dertythegrower 2 жыл бұрын
There is many still on this comment page, the first reply to all top comments is a link with a n00dy site linked to it KZfaq should detect those, but they will erase my comments talking facts about mushrooms.
@MaaZeus 2 жыл бұрын
@@dertythegrower Yes but there is much less of them than previously. Especially those with special characters in their titles. Much easier to ignore.
@BoltRM 2 жыл бұрын
I still see a sht TON
@basicmudkip5985 2 жыл бұрын
@@dertythegrower what do you know about lobster mushrooms?
@HarpaxA 2 ай бұрын
Never knew ThioJoe did prank video, was subscribing to him few weeks back.
@sterlingmakara 2 жыл бұрын
old ThioJoe videos were awesome. Used to send them to friends and watch them fall for it.
@KonkaBass 2 жыл бұрын
That mass report feature is the real key here imo. Turning it from just a limited tool to something everyone can use to make a difference.
@Szaboo92 2 жыл бұрын
In case youtube cares about those reports, and reporting is not there purely for its existence. Not for it to make a change.
@TheIrishAlchemist205 2 жыл бұрын
Knowing how KZfaq got rid of community captioning, which was a huge use for Deaf/Hard of Hearing folks AND creators, and most other useful community tools, my guess is on won't and wouldn't. What a cool tool!
@patience__8051 2 жыл бұрын
"but we have a nice tool that does it for you" -YoUTuBe after 3 companies told them that they won't buy ads placement anymore due to some kid adding some shite captionning to a video
@miyalys 2 жыл бұрын
If people spammed bad captions put the captions up for approval by the channel first? There can be a possibility for using google translate on it to do a quick verification that the text is genuine in languages you don't understand.
@giomjava 2 жыл бұрын
Lazy bums. Community subtitles were how I translated educational videos into my language.
@G-Mastah-Fash 2 жыл бұрын
The features probably broke and the diversity hires couldn't find a way to fix them.
@sebastianlaakso2729 2 жыл бұрын
@@G-Mastah-Fash 💀
@corvespid4925 2 жыл бұрын
You either die a villain or live long enough to see yourself become the hero. Well done, Thio. I'm seeing now that others wrote similar comments and had similar thoughts, so I'll add the following: I've heard a lot of people bless private enterprises over public services, but I've yet to see a single person outmatch them the way Thio basically outmatched a multibillion dollar corporation... it's at both awe-inspiring but also really depressing.
@shinseiki5991 2 жыл бұрын
ty linus i watched this and at the begining you said you can restore the dislike button. didn't know it was possible so i googled it and its working great cheers for the tech tip really helps when looking for engineering explanations on youtube for my degree.
@stoef 2 жыл бұрын
I can already see it coming. KZfaq is going to weigh the API-call reports lower so that the effectiveness is going to be reduced. Something something anti bullying....
@xmine08 2 жыл бұрын
"To prevent users bullying our servers, we ..."
@Thomas-uy4vn 2 жыл бұрын
@@xmine08 lmao
@volvo09 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, there's a reason they've done so little so far. I have a feeling the extra comments make google more money (showing advertisers that the videos with their ads got more engagement, or that the site overall has more user activity than it really does)... You know, that stuff that looks good in a PowerPoint full of stats, which is why it's not new to cheat those stats...
@hahahhaha8146 2 жыл бұрын
I know right
@Nintendofan4000 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how inspiring Thanos' "I'll do it myself." quote became.
@UpLateGeek 2 жыл бұрын
This totally feels like a virus scanner from 1991, but for spam. Honestly, I'm impressed. Not with how effective it is, but the fact that the dude who made all those tech prank videos actually made something genuinely innovative and useful. I'll probably still think it's a tech prank every time I see one of his videos in my feed, but at least we got a useful tool out of him.
@DeadPixel1105 2 жыл бұрын
I've been following ThioJoe on KZfaq for about a year now. He's got some great tech content.
@bejdoki 2 жыл бұрын
8:33 its actually not 10k calls per day, but 10k "units" worth of calls. That page shows a breakdown of how many units certain actions require, but basically you're getting even less calls than you expect.
@p24p14 2 жыл бұрын
The whole "This is so easy I'm surprised Google/KZfaq/Facebook/Anyone I dunno hasn't done this yet." thing is just not surprising anymore given how little of a shit these companies give
@TinchoX 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@new_delhi 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing how much KZfaq favors it's advertisers, it's not really a surprise now that they don't care about their platform. It's all about the profits
@CitizenTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
This is a bot guys. Perfect example of what this software WON'T filter out. 😊. If you get my drift relating to paid for subs, views, likes, comments. Look at Linus's sub to view ratio for this video alone 😉.
@cruiserkumano 2 жыл бұрын
There is no reason to improve things if a given company has a monopoly.
@Dualities 2 жыл бұрын
mybe start calling out all those vertify tag abusers first
@dazk5317 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh, when I kept seeing those spams I thought of how easy it would be to remove them, but since a gigantic corporation like youtube couldn't do it how could I a mere mortal develop something more intelligent then their algorithms, appareantly I was right and developing was actually pretty easy, good job KZfaq!
@iaminyourwalls. Жыл бұрын
ThioJoe, you smart madlad. Thank you for this creation.
@sirspamalot4014 2 жыл бұрын
"So why don't you remove spam comments and accounts?" KZfaq: "Money!" Artificial engagement makes their numbers look good to investors
@electronresonator8882 2 жыл бұрын
Susan won, she did it, she pulls the Todd Howard move....it just works
@naamadossantossilva4736 2 жыл бұрын
Then this will cost Alphabet money and they will fight tooth and nail to stop its spread.
@weksauce 2 жыл бұрын
Pet peeve: people reading scripts saying they or their company "can't" when the truth is they "won't".
@KosstAmojan 2 жыл бұрын
The sad reality is both are true at the same time. The bigshots who have nothing to do with the product decide for whatever reason (or lack thereof) that they won't, therefore the rank and file grunts who do the work and rely on them for a paycheck can't.
@HanSolo__ 2 жыл бұрын
They did thi on purpose. Spam generates movement. Movement generetes movement. And even more movement. The more the better. For YT adds of course. No matter what kind of shit does this. If it moves - it pays.
@iilwy 2 жыл бұрын
No company would ever admit that they "can't" or "won't" do something, they'll just ignore the problem or point out an alternate "solution"
@therealsunnyk 2 жыл бұрын
There's a Smarter Every Day video about this where he (IIRC) interviews the KZfaq Spam team (at least the Facebook and Twitter Spam teams). It's actually easier for channels and users to do the reporting than for youtube itself, because it sees a huge volume of comments and is extremely valuable to game. It's also unclear when comments aren't legitimate when the actual content itself is unknown. Like we know that mentioning Crypto on LTT is probably spam, but on a crypto news channel? In any case, the mass reporting (assuming we check the comments are rubbish) actually makes the spam detection easier for KZfaq.
@shapeshiftingpedro 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq 'won't' filter spam link comments because their filter system is already jammed up filtering "hate speech" (an extremely nebulous and extremely political term) and switching it back to filtering actual spam would mean that their political enemies would "win".
@triggerred2008 2 жыл бұрын
this is beautiful! I hope Google will not limit the API calls any further, if this becomes more popular.
@gnes04 3 ай бұрын
KZfaq hasn't prioritised removal of spam because it's not very profitable to them. They'd rather spend money on fighting ad-blockers than stop scammers who steal millions of dollars every month. This mentality of the stakeholders not giving a shit about anything but profit is going to drive humanity into the ground.
@3ventic 2 жыл бұрын
As a software engineer with a lot of relevant experience in a large company, I don't think it's KZfaq willingly ignoring the issue. People are bad at big numbers and many of the larger platforms are so large it's difficult to really wrap your head around the scale that you're dealing with. A minimal increase to a computational task that gets executed hundreds of thousands of times per second easily balloons into large absolute increases in required computational power. That said, I don't think that is the issue either. I believe the real issue to be one of sustainability. When you're making filtering changes that affect a massive number of people, you have to be confident that they work with very few false positives. This analysis takes time, so playing cat-and-mouse with spammers using entirely heuristical approaches like Thio's aren't great: either your reponse is too slow each time the spammers switch their tactics to get around your filters or you change things too quickly and get false positives. In the same vein I don't think it matters that the tool's logic is obfuscated to slow down spammers. Reading through filtering code is one way to get around things, but an arguably easier way is to hook up a fuzzer to it and see what gets past it programmatically. With all that said I do think it is a good tool and will help KZfaq train their spam algorithms, at least while its popularity is below the critical mass for spammers to start working around it.
@championxxlNL 2 жыл бұрын
Think it's just like the justice system, better have a suspect walk free than an innocent person in jail. So better have a spam comment show up than a normal comment getting deleted
@xeridea 2 жыл бұрын
I am a software engineer also. Filtering spam is orders of magnitude less work than managing and serving a video library. Their spam filter for Gmail is top notch, it is extremely rare for me to see spam in my inbox, and don't get false positives often. There is no reason YT should be a haven for spammers. Their "misinformation" team is on overdrive, censoring free speech with lightning speed (despite having facts to back them up), yet spam comments run rampant. I see comments all the time, with clear, unobfusticated "whatsapp" and "only fans". They clearly do not care.
@xeridea 2 жыл бұрын
@@championxxlNL Normal comments get deleted all the time, if you go against the narrative, spam comments roam free.
@digitalwojtya3669 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh, I don't think youtube would care about removing or even temp shadowbaning as little false positives as they can, especially that linus said in video that they ban a lot of mobile comments that dont break any rules/spam. Especially with the way they treat creators that often get copyright striked for nothing ect, so why would they care if an innocent comment gets banned either. I don't know why youtube didn't implement something to stop these spammers, especially that a lot of them could have been banned extremly easily just by having w.a. number in these bubbles after their name or at the end of a comment (wont give an example since linus is running now the script but u know what I mean) and in such cases false positives would have been pretty much pure ZERO, so there is something very wrong with youtube's lack of reaction to this almost like it was intentional.
@practicemakesperfect8444 2 жыл бұрын
@@xeridea Also to that respect, false positives happen incredibly frequently. I've seen major KZfaq channels get auto deleted by AI before someone at YT realizes their issue. So arguing the point of "We would need to maintain/test this before using it" is invalid. No-one would care at all if one or so comment gets falsely deleted. But whole channels get removed... I see no reason other than they gain something by letting spammers run free.
@alyoshamikhaylov7651 2 жыл бұрын
Next month KZfaq update: WE ARE REMOVING REPORT COMMENT FEATURE
@th3r3x5 2 жыл бұрын
Dude I want to try it right now. Its so cool. I can finally support my fav creator if not by being a member.
@Augstopus 4 ай бұрын
i sincerely hope this video gets to yt headquarters, this is an issue i've had with comments for such a long time
@NullifiedPerson 2 жыл бұрын
I just love it when the community fixes problems that Google won't
@MrRandomallthetime 2 жыл бұрын
*won't. If one self proclaimed novice can do it, so can a multi-billion dollar company.
@NullifiedPerson 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrRandomallthetime thanks for correcting me 👍
@philosaplease4867 2 жыл бұрын
it's a trap! they're fooling the community into a sense of stronger community so as to like their platform more! /s
@AmstradExin 2 жыл бұрын
Google's in on it and Linus got the same thought, judging his reaction at the end. KZfaq makes them lose money, I heard?
@mCoding 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Linus, small programming channel here, please DO NOT create an army of fake moderator accounts. This is definitely a violation of YT's ToS and could get your entire channel deleted. Doing anything to avoid the quota system is a big no-no. If you need more quota, pay for more quota.
@theata Жыл бұрын
Why youtube doesn't do X: Sometimes engineers...over engineer. It's not too uncommon for a team to set off in solving a problem, only to get too fixated on it and end up missing the forest for the trees.
@acid1013 2 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing script! I’m going to start running this in the background at work on all my favorite content creators!
@nickoverton3566 2 жыл бұрын
Funny, TheoJoe led me to this channel years ago because of that double your internet speed video. I thought it was crap and I then watched Linus' video on how he doubled his legitimately, that caused a vicious cycle of watching everything on his channel and I have been an avid watcher ever since. That was 5-8 years ago (I don't recall exactly).
@danoV1c 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if we lived in a world where youtube would actually give a crap about their audience and content creators
@thewolfkingtwk5068 2 жыл бұрын
@Beatrix__________👇💕 wtf 😂
@anonymouskultist 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds terrible and I hate that idea. today is also not opposite day 😉
@danielm.595 2 жыл бұрын
@@thewolfkingtwk5068 linus will need to create a bot to auto ban these aberrations.
@MrCarlozan96 2 жыл бұрын
@Beatrix__________👇💕 found one! Hope to see you deleted in a few minutes
@rishabhmulay5230 2 жыл бұрын
@Beatrix__________👇💕 The irony for it to be on this video
@meap_me 2 жыл бұрын
Everything in this program is prefect! The only thing we need now is a GUI
@henrywyckoff4301 3 ай бұрын
I for one am glad that ThioJoe switched gears a while back from being a troller creator to being a legitimate creator.
@munashe7988 2 жыл бұрын
I hope ThioJoe continues getting the recognition he deserves
@sonetto_r99 2 жыл бұрын
When the community is fed up with KZfaq's broken system, they will do it themselves. Good job Thio. You did everyone a favour.
@legominimovieproductions 2 жыл бұрын
now we just need a community made platform like youtube but good XD
@Dualities 2 жыл бұрын
Ironic when u realize all top comments here are KZfaq verify tag abusers. their comments get pushed to the top and they usally post good-willed comments just to get subs from kids. Until KZfaq doesn't remove vertiy tag (automatically push their comments tot he top no matter what they post) the KZfaq will stay broken. 509% of channels on youtube are boosted. 50% of good willed comments on youtube ar either bots or sub booster. we turned content creation into business.
@omegadaboi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dualities bot
@Dualities 2 жыл бұрын
@@omegadaboi ok Kengan Omega fan
@ErgeYT 2 жыл бұрын
I love how ur username is the chemical formula for Sucrose x>
@vidhoard 2 жыл бұрын
Praying that at some point KZfaq finally addresses this issue!!
@TheWebgecko 2 жыл бұрын
Yayy thank you for promoting this!!
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