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The whole point is to show that if Valve can’t fix this bot issue on a 17 year old game, how on EARTH are we going to have any faith in their future game projects if they’re just gonna be flooded with bots on day 1? I know they’re gonna flood CS2 next if they do shut down tf2 and no one can change my mind on that.

As someone who is broke, I am doing a pretty goo job at boycotting steam as a whole!

this aged like milk but such was to be expected given he made this when the campaign still had no end in sight

2050: Why #PreservationAndRebuildingOfTheCooperationOfTheSecondFortification FAILED!

we haven't stopped?

feels a bit early yet to say its failed

This has aged VERY poorly..

just wait until they send the emails to valve then lets see if they still ignore us.

Nobody said the movement is already over. A financial boycott of the next summer update is already considered to be on the table.

Hope isnt lost, we can still force valve to get off their asses and fix this god damn game, #FixTf2

Not even 10 second into the video and he said it hasn't failed yet.

Considering the fact that larger KZfaqrs are starting to cover #SaveTF2, should show that it's doing something right.

Bruh, it's been a week. Give valve some time to actually do something. There isn't some random button that solves the bot crisis. They'd need more than a week to solve this. September 12th, three months. Give Valve three months to fix the problem.

The dislike ratio is crazy

One of the things I can think of is a class action lawsuit for selling MTX for a not working / not supported game. EA's first Titanfall game was removed from stores in fear of a possible lawsuit as the game became virtually unplayable due to hackers DDoS-ing or banning everyone while EA was still selling the game knowing the state of the game. All of these were done in order to shield themselves from a potential lawsuit so that gives a potential chance of success, however Valve was able to win many lawsuits against them so that may be up to debate. The other idea is to notify potential law makers/ government officials about the situation. The history of Valve shows that whenever legislators took interest in what Valve was doing, Valve immediately corrected those things with examples like the crackdown on CSGO gambling websites and a change in loot boxes on the Belgian market.

Boycot won't work alone valve is also steam making millions off of selling other people games. For this to work we need both. Also the petition and boycote. Also the petition this time being hand delivered after being printed off and it's not just to fix tf2 like the name it's to demand they communicate with us the full process. Boycotts don't work if they don't know why your boycotting them.

We haven't failed until the movement is over and done with, Rome wasn't built in a day after all

I think my comment got deleted because i put save DOT tf in it lmao. Ima just do it again

The movements not even done yet lol

Thirds time the charm. Id say we do this one more time next year and because that would be the third protest and Valve hates the number 3

Like a demo's sticky trap, it hasn't failed until you've clicked alt-fire.

It's not even over yet

Imagine being one week into WWII and being like: "Here's why America couldn't beat Germany."

Well it still is not over, which is good.

zealot still struggling to stay realevant

Zealot trying to explain to the TF2 community that he knew the ban wave would happen (His shorts content says otherwise.)

Tbh I just wanted to watch a rocket jump course with commentary 😗

Whats the rocket jumping server?

Fix tf2 isn't even over yet???

We barely even started what do you mean?

"They need to see us stand our ground!" - Jack Kelly in Newsies

or either valve doesn't care, or there's no actual way to fix this without harming player experience

isnt this what we are about to do or what, petition wise i see it as a secondary stuff(even tho it should show valve something at least)

wouldn’t just having like a capcha to be able to queue into a game work or am i crazy

All they need to do is just lower the sensitivity limit so that spinbots have a harder time spinning around and insta-killing people

for it to fail implies we stopped trying

Yes, there seems to be a consensous on doing a boycott once the summer cases drop

guy hitting those jumps in the bg is skileld af.

Why does valve wait till people come to valve hq. Last time they responded for said reason

Video aged pretty bad. Valve has banned thousands of bot accounts and casual tf2 is pretty clean. On top of this, newly created bot accounts are being deleted instantly. Doesn't look like failure to me, you might have jumped the gun on this one.

As much as I see your point the second we go to boycott everything changes we should at least try the petition first then I feel like a boycott is the next best step

Guys this is a bait video, if you watch it use adblocker

Cuh it’s been a week give us a minute lmao

In other news zealot cries, the grass is green and the sky is blue ❤

was this rocket jump video edited?

games need to fix this issue, either it is tf2, csgo or valorant. the main issue is that people can bypass anticheats using linus core os or a external, the main issue of cheats is dll and injecting them into the game core, this still hasnt been fixed some are patched but not consistently, many exist

Personally, I agree with a lot of what you stated, however I believe that bringing publicity to the issue could still have some use. I believe that a boycott is probably the best way to get valve to fix tf2 as although tf2 makes them very little compared to steam, thousands of dollars are still thousands of dollars, and if we were to pair a boycott with the petition and and publicity that comes with it, that could have an even bigger effect than one of them alone. I don't believe that a boycott would result in the games death, because valve knows that pulling the plug on the game will cause even more backlash for them, as pulling the plug on a product because people were protesting it is not a good look, no matter how rich a company is. The only issue I could see with a boycott is getting it to happen in the first place, as there is always that one group of gambling addicts who do nothing but unbox hats all day and play Mann Up MvM. But if we could get a boycott going with the publicity brought by #FixTF2 and the petition, it could give us a realistic chance of valve actually doing something other than a Band-Aid fix.

this aged like milk

Well yeah ofc the petition is not gonna do much for the community, but you know what we have already done that pretty much is just like boycotting? We negatively reviewed tf2 until it became overwhelmingly negative, spread the information that valve hasn’t done anything about it, and even implanted the thoughts of more valve games being controlled by bots. We have effectively driven away newer people from getting into tf2 and while there hasn’t been an announcement yet, I feel like boycotting will soon be the next step. While the goals of previous movements have been about the bots and fixing issues with tf2, now we have the leverage to dismantle the entire company themselves. If they remove tf2, they remove all their credibility to control their games, and we effectively won. Valve will never be trusted until they can solve the problems that every other game company is expected to deal with.

i'm fine with the boycott, idc if the servers shut down, that will show how bad valve actually is.

The craziest part to me is that bots and cheaters aren't just a tf2 problem. Like you mentioned, CS2 is having similar issues. Deadlock, their new title, has already had cheaters in their beta and the game isn't even out yet. I'm not sure what valve is thinking deadlock will be if they don't have a functional anticheat.

How many times do we need to teach you this lesson, old man?

There is nothing we can do.

Another nothing burger

Bro, just happened 2 weeks and say it failed☠️

Nah, somebody stop this man from attention grabbing

The boycot wil happen just not now. It'll get started when the summer update get announced.

my brother in christ its not even over

Humanity FAILED - Here’s Why.

A boycott wouldn’t do much of anything tbh

they just got banned

Dst when?

Me when i spread misinformation on the internet:

man i love clickbaiting people into clicking my mediocre rocket jumping videos

It’s not even over yet man

This reminds me of the people who said Drake won because Kendrick didn’t drop day 1.

Bro is a professional yappologist

Bots are still gone. Just here to mention you were wrong. Try again

When I saw you on my fyp I was extremely flabbergasted that you're back

I think the reason why they can't do it is because the conversion to source 2. Tf2 is ancient and so is l4d2. It might possible that the game is compromised to the hackers and with no choice but restart the game with new codes or with better security.

When they release deadlocked (their new game) they will have to check out the community no matter what. It’s not like they’re going to release the game and never indulge in any community affairs. If all the community affairs are about tf2 then they have to do something

Want to sign my petition? 0:59

i'd say an update to VAC itself would work, improving the anti cheat in all the games using it

It would be cool to team up with CS2 community but you know how they are, 50% only unbox crates

I would say this is an extremely defeatist way to say #FixTF2 already failed. I would be giving it more time before jumping to conclusions.

The petition has just passed 300k sigs and he’s calling it a failure lol

at the end of the day, this event is a crux for valve as a company, failing to deliver would be a massive blow to their public image, if deadlock has the same issue, it might lead to a massive outrage and cause WAY more problems, fixing this game is one of their few good PR options right now, cause their communities are mad, their games are staggered and low quality these days, and the general gaming landscape is not impressed with what they have been making. If they wanna show they still have passion for games and not money, this would be a great first step, so even if we boycott or not, if we leave or not, this is the biggest turning point in valve history, only time will tell.

we're already doing all this lad if you can't care enough to look past the hashtag then don't comment on it

Don’t give up! You’ve gotta have hope, Valve have to Fix the Bot Problem & release a Major or Minor update. If Valve doesn’t care then they might as well become like Capcom where they don’t care about their Video game Franchises.

in response they removed mac support from tf2 XDD what a joke valve.

So first off, the protest has not "failed" until after the protest is over the protest is not over, there for it's level of success is still yet to be determined. 2nd, I am skeptical on the feasibility of an AI based anti cheat being a good long term solution. Though maybe it might address the issue for 1 or 2 years, but in the long term I worry about the possibility that the bot hosters might turn the AI based anti cheat against normal players. Depending on how the AI gains it's data, knowing the problem with valve it'd likely gain it's data automatically to avoid "treadmill" work, which if it does gather it's data automatically that may open up the possibility for bad actors to trick the bot into false positives and false negatives (meaning that it'd ignore the real cheaters, and flag normal players as hackers)

Can you just have courage FOR 5 SECONDS

I think that they should just be open with us just tell us like we are working on it or at least hire a cyber security team third-party so that they can do whatever they can’t compare the pots until they can get that new vac system up and running but I would also just be satisfied if they just come out and say hey we hear you and we’ll tell you what’s going on then it is just saying hey we hear you and that’s it

Well, lots of people saying to boycott the game with stop spending money in it, and with the petition signs, this MIGHT work (but I don't really believe it, and I mostly play TF2C so I don't feel the difference)

Storm Valve Hq, they can't stop all of us

It isn't even over yet why give up? If you're passionate about things, work towards it! Don't listen to this guy, work towards fixing the thing you care so much about.

Well didn't fail completely clearly. I haven't seen bots in casual for days!

Dude's be like "FixTF2 failed" My brother in christ we just got started.

Fym. we just started and if you dk we ain't end until valve will do something with the anty cheat which is the least they can do and other games use the anti cheat so the gotta fix it either way

My tweet was featured on your last video without my permission. I really wish you weren’t my biggest claim to fame.

WAWAWAWAWAIT, I get the clickbait but... Zealot actually saying something smart!? That's something you don't see everyday

If I were in Valve's shoes I'd be ignoring the whiny TF2 players too

larger tf2 creators ARE planning a boycott, one thats targeted on the next case release, when valve would typically make the most money off the game. a general, broad boycott with no target and no start and end date will not be effective for any purpose because its impossible to coordinate.

I really hope Val add new weapons

THE BOTS ARE GONE! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Mass emailing epic games asking them to improve the layout of their store and increase the available games on their store, and not spending money on steam. Tf2 is/was a gateway game to spending money on steam so really hurt them by boycotting steam, and support other platforms even if they are shitter rn

I will continue to jump on the bed despite the doctor’s orders

You have nothing to add, nothing to say, nothing we haven't heard or thought. All you have is monetization and clickbait.

I am onboard with a boycott bc it would make someone attention in valve