FLASH vs SNOW 2024 Series - Starcraft Broodwar

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@MundaneDave
@MundaneDave 22 күн бұрын
Double picture in picture action! Thanks for the cast!! Flash, Rain, Fantasy: Three players able to return and adapt fast af to the meta, and these games are an example. I think, both games, building a second Wraith would've been genius.
@-LocoBolon
@-LocoBolon 21 күн бұрын
Yes I agree, you need to have a small number or wraiths mb with cloak so they live longer to be able to have these small fights everywhere vs this style Protoss
@-LocoBolon
@-LocoBolon 21 күн бұрын
I think Flash is already shining light on one weakness this P style has wich is few observers and not much time to micro them correctly to clean mines.
@IYPITWL
@IYPITWL 22 күн бұрын
Snow asking if the id is flash: "God, is that you?" Flash: "Yes, my childe."
@f5ntasy
@f5ntasy 20 күн бұрын
🤣
@borisgrechanichenko
@borisgrechanichenko 22 күн бұрын
When you told that the second game is even Snow had +40 supply and +20 workers :) I heard Snows evil laughter for the most of the match) He was just dominating.
@grudley
@grudley 22 күн бұрын
fun fact about that cancelled "dragoon range" at 19:30 is that it was actually air weapons which is 50 minerals and gas cheaper
@stambe8605
@stambe8605 22 күн бұрын
Yep, thats an old trick that was being used alot back in 02-04 PvT meta to trick Terrans that you are going Goon range, then canceling and going DTs or expand. Reavers weren't used nearly to the same extent or proficiency like in 2024. I guess it still holds merit to use it to conceal faster Reavers.
@EXOdagr8t
@EXOdagr8t 22 күн бұрын
I am liking because I want to see brood war forever and commenting for the algorythm
@Timic83tc
@Timic83tc 22 күн бұрын
Same!
@zabban
@zabban 22 күн бұрын
same!
@soldier22881
@soldier22881 7 сағат бұрын
broodwar > starcraft 2
@JoesFastestStarcraftCasts
@JoesFastestStarcraftCasts 22 күн бұрын
For the algo
@Jamesgalc-gs8wu
@Jamesgalc-gs8wu 22 күн бұрын
For the culture, sc culture😂
@utarian7
@utarian7 22 күн бұрын
When an unstoppable force meets an immovable object.
@MiguelFernandez-xy3vf
@MiguelFernandez-xy3vf 22 күн бұрын
lovely comment
@construccioneseinversiones2582
@construccioneseinversiones2582 21 күн бұрын
​@@MiguelFernandez-xy3vfis a movie batman
@davidorawe3931
@davidorawe3931 22 күн бұрын
THIS is the matchup I've been waiting to see.
@-LocoBolon
@-LocoBolon 21 күн бұрын
we all been wating to see***
@-LocoBolon
@-LocoBolon 21 күн бұрын
We waited long enough and now the waiting is over I guess friend :).
@davidorawe3931
@davidorawe3931 21 күн бұрын
No disappointment either. I hope to see these two at their peak in the finals
@dopyrussian-englishkeyboar9317
@dopyrussian-englishkeyboar9317 22 күн бұрын
Google Translate shows that in the beginning of the second game 15:13 Flash: Is that right? Snow: Yes Flash: Yes looks like there is missing dialogue between them Crazy how Snow managed to to dodge vulture/tank shots with his shuttle/reaver micro when reavers was 1 tank shot from death once at 24:33 and again at 24:37 The reaver was less than 10 hp, with no shield so a tank shout kills it but somehow dodges it.
@boyalogs
@boyalogs 22 күн бұрын
Snow actually does this against Speed in the most recent ASL. It was probably one of the best reaver/shuttle plays in history. I highly recommend you go watch it. Also... Thanks for the translation. 'preciate it buddy.
@Bleak13
@Bleak13 22 күн бұрын
Flash’s relentless pushes are still scary
@petecabrina
@petecabrina 21 күн бұрын
And the way snow held was ridiculous, the amount of unit control both these guys have is ridiculous.
@majermike
@majermike 21 күн бұрын
does not seem like a great way to play terran, I know flash is better than I am but in general terrans trade better in large battles, protoss trades better in small battles, maybe flash was trying to be scrappy just for practice, but flash knows he could easily have won by turtling up until he hit 200 supply
@gsMuzak
@gsMuzak 20 күн бұрын
turtlig against snow doesn't work, he'll reaver-drop your ass constantly and never let you reach beyond 40 scvs
@majermike
@majermike 20 күн бұрын
​@@gsMuzak yes, reaver drops are one of snow's many options. no, flash playing defensively until he maxes out does not mean he won't reach 40 scvs.
@user-mb3gr2lp8u
@user-mb3gr2lp8u 9 күн бұрын
Great series. Thanks for the cast!
@AnimeLOVER-uw9js
@AnimeLOVER-uw9js 22 күн бұрын
Being a pro gamer is hard as return as pro gamer you get rusty i remenber my comeback from military service and I stay in A rank for 2 months when normaly I hit S every season is the past
@reekhadol
@reekhadol 21 күн бұрын
We can talk about Snow's rise and Flash's decline all we want but let's not forget that Snow's first proleague match was him beating Flash. 13 years ago, 2-3 years into his professional career at Flash's peak.
@eud64_
@eud64_ 22 күн бұрын
. . . Flash is really a next level player, looks like his adaptability is way too good, you can tell by the way he can keep up with Snow having only returned not so long ago. I'm hoping he once again reigns supreme thus provoking a meta switch yet again.
@user-hf8dc8xy1o
@user-hf8dc8xy1o 21 күн бұрын
The split screen was a grate idea. Keep that up.
@hugefluffygnome
@hugefluffygnome 22 күн бұрын
Excellent cast and games, really appreciate the extra effort for putting in the picture in picture as well.
@ChokedByHalo1
@ChokedByHalo1 21 күн бұрын
15:20 lmao, caught me off guard
@diegorivera6763
@diegorivera6763 21 күн бұрын
Flash just made a World top 3 starcraft player sweat after just a few weeks since his return. Actually he performed stronger than rank leading Terran players. Snow was simply superior, although in the second match he won just because of a juicy scarab in the base at 3 o’clock.
@davidbevilacqua2061
@davidbevilacqua2061 22 күн бұрын
@Alexfriedam : Best's play is based mainly on insane macro, Snow's play is harder to master: snipping tanks + managing insane Reaver micro + Nexus expanding + non stop producing goons+zealots. You can't imagine how insane skill and stamina it needs.
@MiguelFernandez-xy3vf
@MiguelFernandez-xy3vf 22 күн бұрын
true thas why he is the only one doing it...we havent seen the best protos ever yet...can we have a player like snow with best macro?
@jeongheo5290
@jeongheo5290 22 күн бұрын
I think the very first few seconds of the second game is cut off. I watched this game live yesterday and I remember the dialogue was: Flash: Are you the protoss from last game? (they played two consecutive games) Snow: Yes Flash: Okay, GG
@ninjaviking4073
@ninjaviking4073 14 күн бұрын
Like. Comment. Subscribed. May Starcraft live forever.
@alexfriedman2152
@alexfriedman2152 22 күн бұрын
No idea how Snow Plays like that. When I play I like to attack all in like Best. Snow never does a big attack.. He doesn't even need to.... he just micros a few goons and zealot reaver for like 10 minutes.
@JayrodTremonki
@JayrodTremonki 21 күн бұрын
He uglies up the game to where it's 4 tanks and vultures vs 1 reaver and 3 goons perpetually. Because he will be more efficient in 90% of skirmishes. It's when it's 200 supply vs 200 supply where he loses his edge. So he never lets you get there.
@sebastianrohl3801
@sebastianrohl3801 22 күн бұрын
thank you for blessing us with this cast
@samab7891
@samab7891 22 күн бұрын
Flash needa a few wraith do deal with the drops
@mauzytv
@mauzytv 20 күн бұрын
Great cast! I'm relatively new to watching BW, I'm mostly into SC2, but I loved this one :) gonna check out more, earned my sub
@flimsygrayfrog
@flimsygrayfrog 21 күн бұрын
First time watching your cast, mostly because Im so keen to watch more flash games but I really enjoyed it! The split screen is nice Subscribed
@Bigtetrisguy
@Bigtetrisguy 22 күн бұрын
Snow cancelled a goon at 18:08 ish to make a nexus. Interesting when they make these minor early game changes.
@osirisra1476
@osirisra1476 22 күн бұрын
G2 was amazing. You could tell Flash has decisive advantages over Snow, namely much better macro while microing. I can see Flash getting up to speed and beating Snow solidly, as much as I don't want to admit it. Snow has a massive macro weakness.
@leonardobruzzoni9231
@leonardobruzzoni9231 22 күн бұрын
Hey! Happy 6k subs!
@luiscastillo3543
@luiscastillo3543 22 күн бұрын
Wow SnOw is so good!
@sblingfun
@sblingfun 21 күн бұрын
Great content!
@SkProductions56
@SkProductions56 22 күн бұрын
Snow's micro is otherworldly
@slbjjk
@slbjjk 21 күн бұрын
love snow vs flash! more!
@seiaghen
@seiaghen 22 күн бұрын
vulture for the probe that's going for the third is huge
@osirisra1476
@osirisra1476 22 күн бұрын
Yup, it decided the game
@ptsanche
@ptsanche 22 күн бұрын
This game highlights how difficult is to beat protoss as terran nowadays. Great casting though
@-LocoBolon
@-LocoBolon 21 күн бұрын
You had a nice run Mr. Snow but can you see it now, can't you? Your reign is coming to an end soon ^^
@jakjaksonian
@jakjaksonian 22 күн бұрын
Had a feeling this would be on your channel haha - thanks so much dude
@rdt1104
@rdt1104 22 күн бұрын
that dragoon scv micro...
@Baldodeathmetal
@Baldodeathmetal 22 күн бұрын
I like the part where the people played the game of the starcraft
@nicholasscott2118
@nicholasscott2118 22 күн бұрын
flash vs snow, so epic
@gosu1989
@gosu1989 20 күн бұрын
Great game on Retro Flash almost won, if it wasn’t Retro Flash would have won that game I think
@mf_________
@mf_________ 15 күн бұрын
Ahhh.. The one I have been waiting for.
@flowertowerrr
@flowertowerrr 22 күн бұрын
LOL he's such a beast
@greenwave819
@greenwave819 21 күн бұрын
GG
@Itsyoboyjy
@Itsyoboyjy 22 күн бұрын
Thanks brah
@blazewarTV
@blazewarTV 22 күн бұрын
this is exactly what i was wating for. love you artosis
@dewinmoonl
@dewinmoonl 22 күн бұрын
jeuss what a game
@ManCubuSSC
@ManCubuSSC 21 күн бұрын
20+ min. game and you say me FlaSh is still not maxed out but struggling go above 100 supply? That's how good SnOw is.
@Mymommy42069
@Mymommy42069 22 күн бұрын
Yas
@albert4860
@albert4860 22 күн бұрын
@15:50 Here's the thing about Snow: he doesn't seem to do well under pressure at all. He's always dominating in non-asl tournaments and ladder games that people call him a God. But when it comes time to actually perform well in ASL, he often chokes. So the fact that he beat a rusty Flash in an a non-asl game means absolutely nothing to me. I'm still waiting for him to win an ASL.
@AmericanMight
@AmericanMight 22 күн бұрын
It's still flash. Give Snow some credit. He's still better then 90% of other Protoss's out there. And no offense but I'd hardly call losing to Flash as "choking" in a tournament. Just cuz you don't beat the best player to ever pick up the mouse doesn't mean you're not good. Get real.
@osirisra1476
@osirisra1476 22 күн бұрын
Losing in tournament isn't the same thing as choking. The best players only win 60% of the time in BW. I don't really think you can point to an individual series where Snow flat-out choked.
@albert4860
@albert4860 22 күн бұрын
@@AmericanMight When did I say Snow is not good? Please don't put words in my mouth. I love watching Snow and hes probably the best Protoss out there at the moment. I was rooting for either him or Hero to win last season. As I said, Snow has been dominating the ladder and other non-asl tournaments, only a very good player could do that. However when he reaches the later rounds of the ASL, he simply does not perform as well as expected especially considered how dominating he is in non-asl settings. I consider that choking.
@susugam3004
@susugam3004 22 күн бұрын
54 here's first 15 minutes
@mattthemaddogdollar
@mattthemaddogdollar 22 күн бұрын
Snow deduced...
@saetia7
@saetia7 22 күн бұрын
Love the casts and it's great to see Flash back but can we strike a balance where not every single video is about him? I love watching ZvP and ZvZ and it's just a little boring that because of Flash every game has at least one Terran in it at the moment.
@LorenzKamo
@LorenzKamo 22 күн бұрын
So much micro
@mattthemaddogdollar
@mattthemaddogdollar 22 күн бұрын
SPOILER
@mattthemaddogdollar
@mattthemaddogdollar 22 күн бұрын
Game 2 - Why did Flash build science vessels if he wasn't even using any spells? If he needed something to spot for the seige tanks, he should have just build a wraith or 2.
@norik9910
@norik9910 22 күн бұрын
Snow's play is the exact opposite of Flash's, versatile, dynamic and aggresive. Flash was, is and will with his turtling play, so boring to watch.
@sanaebeast4485
@sanaebeast4485 22 күн бұрын
The arm injury leads Flash to be not aggressive any more, also Snow's PVT style is nearly similar to Jangbi in 2010 as time goes by.
@skeptic9991
@skeptic9991 22 күн бұрын
Sure, buddy, the player who is widely considered the best gamer of all time is boring to watch. I bet you could be a lot better and a lot more entertaining if you wanted to; you just chose to pursue other things in life because you are just THAT talented.
@orionlt1028
@orionlt1028 22 күн бұрын
in a month or two, flash will wipe floor with snow
@MundaneDave
@MundaneDave 22 күн бұрын
This TvP style is totally different from what he was doing just one week ago. More than dynamic, Flash is able to adapt to the meta faster than anyone. It's a huge mistake thinking this is weak, or his final form.
@norik9910
@norik9910 22 күн бұрын
@@MundaneDave Sure, you're probably right, he's a fantastic player and he could use all the strategies he wants but, I wasn't attacking his skills but just his style only. He lacks this crazyness and daring strategies I sometimes see with other players. He used a lot this turtling behaviour, and if my memory serves especially against Jaedong in ASL finals.
@RyanJ14115
@RyanJ14115 20 күн бұрын
Flash is starting to come back he just needs to stop being stubborn and accept the new TvP meta
@SaiyanKCM
@SaiyanKCM 20 күн бұрын
Oh man wait till you see my next upload
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