Flipdot Tetris beta

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10 жыл бұрын

We received these beautiful display segments at the 29th Chaos Communication Congress in Hamburg from the guys at muCCC (muc.ccc.de). They didn't provide any information about how to do anything with them, so we had to do just a little reverse engineering. After figuring out the whole circuit-board layout to get an idea of what the developers intended for the interface, we verified our results using an ATmega32 on an AVR NET-IO.
Technically we're able to drive the displays at roughly 10 FPS, which generates a considerable amount of current drawn by the e-magnets flipping the pixel-segments. To satisfy that demand we used the largest capacitor we could find around the hackerspace.
wiki.muc.ccc.de/flipdot:start
www.bytewerk.org/index.php/Fli...

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@JustinY. 6 жыл бұрын

That's cool and all, but can it run *Doom?*

@dermathze700 6 жыл бұрын

Justin Y. Probably, I think the single keyboard key had less pixel and about the same fps, so it should be fine.

@baylego 6 жыл бұрын

A man with the right questions

@linguicaguy 6 жыл бұрын

Justin Y. Anything can run Doom at this point

@noonecares7397 6 жыл бұрын

linguicaguy my phone, my fridge, my router, my watch, hell, my fricken cat can probably run doom ffs

@ck11032 6 жыл бұрын

*Papito Jugo Al Doom*

@bytewerk 10 жыл бұрын

The modules draw a lot of current. That's why we only drive the pixels that are new in each frame. This still is too much for our puny little powersource. This is the reason why pixels that failed to flip stay they way they are. Some pixels flip even though they don't have to. That's a software bug.

@JorgetePanete 6 жыл бұрын

bytewerk the* way they are

@jonathanolson772 6 жыл бұрын

bytewerk couldn't you calculate the current going through the display at any given time and use that to selectively sweep the board to make sure it's all flipped the correct direction while still staying within the power supply limits?

@rich1051414 6 жыл бұрын

I think the 'real' solution would be to not draw to the flip dots directly, but to draw to a frame buffer, and let a separate thread worry about displaying the buffer after it is completed. That way you can insure consistent bug free behavior. The rate that the buffer is written to the flip dots could be throttled so that it runs just under the speed that malfunctions occur. Then you would not need to go back and make sure things took. If you triple buffer, then you can do a comparison between the two complete buffers to determine if a pixel flip needs to occur or not, saving power.

@josephyoo7863 6 жыл бұрын

I think you'd need v-sync lol

@AcidW 6 жыл бұрын

did you try to turn it off and on again?

@stumbling 3 жыл бұрын

CLICKCLACKCLICKCLACKCLICKCLACKCLICKCLACKCLICKCLACK "Tetris for Jeff."

@zombieexpress99 3 жыл бұрын

Jonas who

@TheMorenoZanardi 3 жыл бұрын

You forgot the "Boom"

@mingiasi 3 жыл бұрын

imagine cops getting noise complaint about "loud monitor"

@brimmed 3 жыл бұрын

lol i had "boom tetris for joseph" going in my head

@po1sonseede9001 3 жыл бұрын

Boom tetris

@mrbrian826 3 жыл бұрын

I know this is 7 years old but this has got to be one of the coolest things I've seen this year.

@myenglishisbadpleasecorrec5446 2 жыл бұрын

Have a good day

@mrbrian826 2 жыл бұрын

@@myenglishisbadpleasecorrec5446 you too!

@movie8575 2 жыл бұрын

You mean 8?

@TheRealKitWalker Жыл бұрын

I agree

@ABCDEFR Жыл бұрын

@@movie8575 Man with moderate snark and obviously limited grasp of time as a function of linear progression attempts to inform year old comment that an additional year has passed since commenting.

@YoungTheFish 6 жыл бұрын

The clearing animation is soooo satisfying

@ordinal_skill5287 4 жыл бұрын

That’s creepy.

@Gensesia 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah this is like computer animation

@tracecave9785 3 жыл бұрын

YES

@qcurtis6708 3 жыл бұрын

1:49

@chraman169 3 жыл бұрын

It's not an animation but actual motion.

@CirqueAlvis 6 жыл бұрын

It’s like you’re simultaneously solving multiple rubik’s cubes

@albertbriscoe4714 6 жыл бұрын

that amazing sound...

@elwinroyale 3 жыл бұрын

@eric Spencer definitely not the sound would be faster then usually

@michaelmoore1627 3 жыл бұрын

The cool thing about seeing this 7 years after it's release is wondering how much it's improved.

@fungames24 Жыл бұрын

They upgraded to flat screen because of lower power requirements.

@ModestMang Жыл бұрын

@@fungames24 lol progress to digress I guess 😭

@Samantha-vlly 2 жыл бұрын

I can't believe this was 8 years ago, ahead of time creation. The algorithm in my account is pretty good at recommending videos

@himmelen2868 6 жыл бұрын

I know it's a glitch/ power problem but I really love the way sometimes pixels stick. It gives it a certain charm

@bitboy6420 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I love that.

@no00ob 6 жыл бұрын

Jonah Johansen same

@cameoshadowness7757 6 жыл бұрын

Himmelen Same. Also makes it feel more natrual in an odd way.

@schottkydiode7507 3 жыл бұрын

True!

@RubyPiec 3 жыл бұрын

@@cameoshadowness7757 exactly!

@nicksteele5613 3 жыл бұрын

Holy shit I thought this was some kind of stop animation which was already impressive as it but the fact that this is actually. running. Tetris. holy shit

@IVR02 3 жыл бұрын

Your PFP is amazing. It took a minute for me to register it mentally, but it's absolutely brilliant.

@jestfullgremblim8002 3 жыл бұрын

@@IVR02 i don't get it. What's so brilliant about "Back &Body Hurts"?

@IVR02 3 жыл бұрын

@@jestfullgremblim8002 The pun amuses me. Obviously I exaggerated a bit in my comment.

@jestfullgremblim8002 3 жыл бұрын

@@IVR02 well, english and japanese are really different. So i didn't get the pun either. i'm a big fan of puns so maybe i would enjoy it a lot too!

@giin97 3 жыл бұрын

@@jestfullgremblim8002 there's a store whose sign is formatted quite similarly, called Bath & Body Works. They sell candles, bath salts, etc, stuff you might use after a long day to soothe an aching back and body.

@seconds_ago 3 жыл бұрын

This video just chilled for 7 years and then suddenly got recommended to everyone, nicee...

@homieboi5352 3 жыл бұрын

7 years ago this guy was still ahead of today. Respect through and through

@schottkydiode7507 3 жыл бұрын

For some reason I just really love how when the frames update they take a while to actually go from one state to another, you can actually see them switching and that just looks awesome! Kinda like motion blur but better lol

@Tibyon 2 жыл бұрын

It looks like scanlines which is trippy af

@FullFledged2010 6 жыл бұрын

All it needs now is a floppytron speaker😉

@dagg497 6 жыл бұрын

FullFledged2010 Hell yes! Floppy drive speaker would be BOSS! Long live mechanics!!

@cy-one 3 жыл бұрын

tbh, I think a stepmotor speaker would fit better XD

@FullFledged2010 3 жыл бұрын

@@cy-one Floppy drives are stepper motor driven 😉

@cy-one 3 жыл бұрын

@@FullFledged2010 I know, but there's a slight difference in tone between a tiny motor in a floppy and a NEMA 17 or 23 ;)

@FullFledged2010 3 жыл бұрын

@@cy-one yup but bigger stepper motors are generally quieter. You'd need somekind of amplification system or resonance box. Especially for nema 23. I've got them on my cnc router and i barely hear them. 🤷‍♂️ depends on the steps per rev settings and amperage of course.

@Sammy213 2 жыл бұрын

I thought the mechanical sounds would be irritating but I actually find them kind of soothing.

@alfranazrael3202 2 жыл бұрын

It take 8 years for youtube to recommend this.

@calevonholdt3780 6 жыл бұрын

1:04 BOOM TETRIS FOR JEFF

@pandananda8220 6 жыл бұрын

TheValem lol its sad that i understood this

@grongy6122 6 жыл бұрын

BOOM TETRIS FOR JONAS

@jerrekt 6 жыл бұрын

Boom! Tetris for Jeff!

@AndrewNichlos 3 жыл бұрын

Boom! Tetris for Jonas!

@emisor9272 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndrewNichlos 😥

@Litl_E 3 жыл бұрын

The click-clacking of the tiles as pieces fall make the perfect beat for the Tetris theme!

@distorted_heavy 2 жыл бұрын

I did not expect such a high refresh rate. Very nice

@JustinY. 6 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see fallout 4 be released on this platform

@crazedtech7488 6 жыл бұрын

Justin Y. I swear i see you everywhere...

@docco8004 6 жыл бұрын

I think there is multiple accounts named Justin Y. with the same picture run by different people going all over youtube

@thepolice5542 6 жыл бұрын

DoctorSlimeStudios i checked there are only 2 but I’ve only seen 1 of them

@gamertygonl 6 жыл бұрын

Rip ears

@sillyeyesmedia9647 6 жыл бұрын

I also see this person on a lot of videos I watch.

@matician374 3 жыл бұрын

Im So glad youtube reccomend me this it's a hidden gem

@kadaverf 3 жыл бұрын

I completely agree!

@saulsho29 3 жыл бұрын

Same!

@tivianengel7789 3 жыл бұрын

Hidden gem Celeste

@bobothehippo Жыл бұрын

Oh, i love these things. I remember there was a GIANT one at an indoor swimming pool when i was a kid in the early 90's. great sound. Reminds me of old airports around the same time, too.

@GlennDavey Жыл бұрын

There's something about analog stuff that the world is missing these days. That's why I love odd projects like this. Game never existed in this form, but feels nostalgic because it's like the old Departure/Arrival boards at the airport..

@abyteuser6297 Жыл бұрын

can it be made fully analog like using water and stuff?

@YeprilesteR 10 ай бұрын

True

@erdemmemisyazici3950 7 жыл бұрын

Keep it up, other than a couple artifacts it looks lovely, which in case of Tetris matters a lot.

@Pixelcraftian 3 жыл бұрын

But can it run Super Mario Bros?

@steve_1507 3 жыл бұрын

Lets see

@patemathic 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, if the power supply problem is solved. This display can show pretty much anything which fits within the resolution and is monochrome

@tomikun8057 3 жыл бұрын

@@patemathic Bad Apple?

@Rei0SU 3 жыл бұрын

@@tomikun8057 already exists

@tastyyoylecake2069 3 жыл бұрын

Probably

@liesnoneya 3 жыл бұрын

I hope he is still working on this also I love how he genuinly improved at tetris between this and the last video, shows how much testing went into it

@EddieOtool 3 жыл бұрын

Really dig the sound of it! It adds something.

@WorivpuqloDMogh 3 жыл бұрын

This is a fun way to play classics like this

@sebbes333 6 жыл бұрын

The sound it makes is really nice :D Please upload a full (long) game in realtime too

@dotwashere4498 3 жыл бұрын

I'm really excited to see this technology pushed further! It's so cool :)

@tuopi27 3 жыл бұрын

idk why i love how imperfect it is

@haydenmetzcus3371 6 жыл бұрын

Not only did you make an innovative and cool design for playing games, you also happen to be a Tetris god.

@robindfuller 3 жыл бұрын

That’s really great. Imagine if the music was from the flipdots too 😆

@aboveaverageai7310 3 жыл бұрын

I like how some of the flipdots get stuck and it looks like there's a two block gap and he messed up, but halfway through it fixes itself

@TheXtremeBoltGuy 3 жыл бұрын

You don't understand just how much I need something like this

@spencergoad1395 3 жыл бұрын

Me: wow technology has come so far for this to be possible *reads that this was posted 7 years ago* Me: w u t

@barry5 3 жыл бұрын

ah yes, because these types displays totally havent existed since 1961.

@GamingwithPortals 3 жыл бұрын

@@barry5 But things like the arduino and Rpi haven’t existed since them

@SaHaRaSquad 3 жыл бұрын

@@GamingwithPortals Uh...yes they have. Arduino exists for 16 years and the Raspberry Pi is also older than this video. And the Arduino isn't some revolutionary new technology, it's just a series of prebuilt microcontroller boards with nice drivers and software around it.

@GamingwithPortals 3 жыл бұрын

@@SaHaRaSquad Ok I was just trying to figure out why this feels like a new video

@Chronon88 3 жыл бұрын

@@GamingwithPortals why wouldn't you be able to use a full sized computer 30 years back? This tech is old and could've been done the same year Tetris came out if someone wanted to make a simple clone of it.

@junjomo7891 6 жыл бұрын

As master shake said "If I wanted to play Tetris I would just draw the blocks falling down on a flipnote pad"

@plasma9839 3 жыл бұрын

Lol what episode

@TorqueBow 3 жыл бұрын

This is just now getting my recommendations. This is actually really cool!

@nikolay-tsys 3 жыл бұрын

Nice bookshelf’s! I guess that’s what it takes to have fun with awesome projects like this )

@eddycabreja3332 3 жыл бұрын

The amount of money I would Pay to get my unworthy hands on this masterpiece...

@roilo8560 3 жыл бұрын

I remember playing something exactly like this at a museum. I think it was at Edinburgh but I'm not 100% sure

@Ceecirruu27 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone in 3 years ago: This is amazing dude! Me in 2021: LETS MAKE BAD APPLE PV WITH USING THIS!

@bafi29 3 жыл бұрын

Already there is one ;)

@RetroGamerzzzMUSIC 3 жыл бұрын

After 7 years KZfaq decided to show Me this vid and tbh Im so happy to see it 😁

@Connordore 3 жыл бұрын

This is the coolest thing I’ve ever seen. I’d love to watch a tear-down to see how it works

@graysongdl 5 жыл бұрын

I've never even heard of these things before, but now I want it. Quick question, does this recreation have SRS?

@sirasagi Жыл бұрын

ちょくちょく色が反転しちゃう所を含めて味があって良い

@hannahyamauchi839 2 жыл бұрын

The sound it makes is so much fun!

@AllLuckNotSkill 3 жыл бұрын

This video was made 7 years ago. I needed this recommended to me 7 years ago and a day earlier. Also how can +500 people dislike this. This is awesome.

@pepper669 7 жыл бұрын

Coolest thing ever!!!

@ZoraHimself 6 жыл бұрын

Boom, Tetris for Jeff

@JJRicks 6 жыл бұрын

RaZz00M ha

@pc31754 3 жыл бұрын

very nice

@certified7268 3 жыл бұрын

8 years ago and this is still impressive

@SuperZaiyan9 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t know why I was recommended this 8 years later but I’m glad it was

@tanasedaniel54 3 жыл бұрын

That's insane bro, please make a video of how you made this, for me it will be better than any other hollywood movie.

@sb3424 6 жыл бұрын

Think of all the TI-83 games you could play on this!

@bankzth 3 жыл бұрын

7 years later this thing still look really cool to me.

@king_fresh27 Жыл бұрын

i'm actually speechless this is incredible!

@monochroma3803 3 жыл бұрын

THIS IS AMAZINGGGGG !

@sciartion 6 жыл бұрын

Imagine what would the world look like if technology would've evolved into this instead of screens.

@johnmcclure4983 3 жыл бұрын

Great point.

@RamiCrafy 3 жыл бұрын

How would 4k look like

@Kuchenwurst 3 жыл бұрын

@@RamiCrafy Pretty big lol

@joestevenson5568 3 жыл бұрын

You realise that e-ink displays exist, right?

@linhdanghoang2504 Жыл бұрын

Your screen is just millions of points (pixels) after all

@inkless533 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know why KZfaq recommends me this 8 years later, but this is so cool!

@Sheynification 3 жыл бұрын

Damn, it look fantastic. Props to creators.

@eduardoavila646 6 жыл бұрын

"We managed to get it to run at 10fps" -Achievement unlocked: I cant even run tetris without lag. Awesome vid btw

@burthpinmc5489 6 жыл бұрын

Can it run minecraft?

@ITpanda 3 жыл бұрын

This is awesome. Wish you sold these! Even if Tetris was the only thing on this I would buy one. Maybe a small wall mount setup with the simple arcade controller at the bottom. Epic!

@stavinaircaeruleum2275 2 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised how responsive this system is, damn! Love it

@komradeheavy3522 6 жыл бұрын

This Tetris remix is great. Where can I find it

@bosspin Жыл бұрын

@needsmoorecowbell 9 жыл бұрын

Where did you source these boards?

@bytewerk 6 жыл бұрын

This used to be a decommissioned highway info sign with 400 of these modules. The CCC from Munich gave 4 of them to us for reverse engineering. In the end we made this tetris game with it.

@mushymcmushington7176 3 жыл бұрын

That clacking sound is really satisfying~

@HKT-4300 9 ай бұрын

This is crazy!! One day i'd love to see a GameBoy emulator running on one of these displays, the grayscale games seem like a perfect fit for it, even thouhg GB games are technically capable of 4 colors, it'd be cool to see something with fast graphics that's interactable on one of these screens.

@TheR971 6 жыл бұрын

Me: I like clicky keyboard switches. CCC: What about clicky displays???

@vanlitespeed693 6 жыл бұрын

4k?

@trenzinhodaalegria8012 6 жыл бұрын

DLP is basically this but made as a microchip and it uses microscopic mechanical mirrors instead of these rotating black and white pieces. Technically it is possible to make a microscopic version of this and it would be cheaper and consume less energy than the large boards. And there is 4k DLP so it is possible to have a 4k flipdot panel...

@skyender8353 2 жыл бұрын

I really like the clicking noises it makes. Also pretty cool to watch ngl

@alt0248 2 жыл бұрын

Good work comrade, when the people arrive in the station tomorrow, I want this on the arrivals board playing for morale.

@akirasai7616 3 жыл бұрын

ドット抜けが微妙に発生するのも絶妙にゲームボーイ感ある

@alexandrepanzan658 3 жыл бұрын

Nooooo, CELBITTTTT

@notfreeman1776 3 жыл бұрын

This looks so satisfing to play, it must be really damn comfy

@avrahamstern4550 3 жыл бұрын

awesome work guys ! never seen souch a cool thing like this !

@braydons5825 Жыл бұрын

But can it run doom?

@succubus1615 6 жыл бұрын

theres dead pixels

@mattsmoo5378 6 жыл бұрын

Dj jom2x Yeah, there is. That doesn't take away from how cool it is.

@jifpeanutbutter8783 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's the problem with doing these kinds rapid movements on those boards is that there not built for it.

@Singleplayer4 3 жыл бұрын

For 2013 folk, that was incredible

@MaximQuantum 3 жыл бұрын

I can't believe this awesome invention was made way back in 2013

@xx_minyan_xx 6 жыл бұрын

日本人いるー？

@notoriousneht4530 6 жыл бұрын

Now see if it can run doom

@xtdycxtfuv9353 6 жыл бұрын

When you copy top comment for likes.

@crocodile1799 3 жыл бұрын

This is way better than the content you see now a days

@robinenbernhard Жыл бұрын

Love to see how its now after 9years.

@user-ox4hv8yr6y 8 жыл бұрын

UP主，是否可以制作bad apple呢？ UP master , you can create , bad apple

@PixelBytesPixelArtist 6 жыл бұрын

What are you trying to say

@minindoalt 6 жыл бұрын

@letcreate123 6 жыл бұрын

That'd be a great idea actually

@FalcoGer 10 жыл бұрын

seems like you guys still got some problems with either the hardware or the graphics programming.

@bytewerk 6 жыл бұрын

There was indeed an issue with the dutycycle we used to drive the idividual dots. Now there are no faulty pixels.

@alex76gr 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! This video put a big smile on my face.

@phokingnuts 9 ай бұрын

10 years later, still cool.

@thebluetardis 3 жыл бұрын

How can I miss that ?! It’s amazing !!

@Guyoguy Жыл бұрын

This is 8 years old, i legitimately thought this was a new invention. This is so cool

@mobilemarshall 3 жыл бұрын

the animation for clearing a line is awesome

@davoodrahimi4580 3 жыл бұрын

Very beautiful and inspirational:) Thank you

@CopiousAmountsOfDerp Жыл бұрын

Nerd over 9,000! Congrats!

@condescendingsnail3722 Жыл бұрын

those sounds are so satisfying

@battlehenge4 9 ай бұрын

This is like torture by 100 simultaneously clicking pens but still pretty awesome tech display.

@Tymon0000 3 жыл бұрын

Looks great and sounds cool!

@VHS_Serenity 9 ай бұрын

youtube, why didnt you recommend me this *ten years ago?*

@EmeraldLavigne 3 жыл бұрын

Love watching Tetris be played really well like e this.

@TheKrensada 3 жыл бұрын

For some reason this video showed up in my recommends. Not disappointed.

@lettuce1626 3 жыл бұрын

The sound effects are satisfying