Massive 18ft Helicarrier
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Today we put our 12 foot 12 motor flying heli carrier frame into the sky for the first time. With indoor tests and adjustments completed, it is time to add and test two thrusters to give this monster ship forward flight. This aircraft carrier is inspired by the classic iron vulture featured in tailspin. Don Karnage used this crazy contraption to take to the skies with his band of misfits. Our goal in this video is to replicate the flight characteristics of the iron vulture, and once successful, it will be time to build the airframe. This journey is sure to have lots of ups and downs, and even a crash or two along the way.
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@UR.Motha21 Жыл бұрын
Hey I have a plane design you guise should try could possibly be the fastest rc plane you have ever built
@UR.Motha21 Жыл бұрын
Hey I have a plane design you guise should try could possibly be the fastest rc plane you have ever built
@justinhobart8747 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking my suggestion in building the Iron Vulture, 😉👍 👁 ❤️ IT!
@neilcaywood3803 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you can hide the thrusters and leave ones on the back for looks, I can tell you don't need help but it's fun to participate with the Team!
@dutchloveRC Жыл бұрын
another FUN video guys!! God Bless
@barrywood5357 Жыл бұрын
The world is a better place for watching what you guys do keep em coming crack on
@segue2ant395 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure you guys have thought of this - but when you come to build the rest you probably oughta think about triangulating the structure front-to-back and side-to-side to prevent the body twisting under thrust differentials. I'd imagine it's costing a lot of stability, and probably some thrust too.
@TiagoTiagoT Жыл бұрын
Not just differentials, flexing might also happen due to vibrations
@Gig540 Жыл бұрын
Nah... It just needs a mattress on it
@davidunderwood1907 Жыл бұрын
Need a mattress on it. Lolol. Best reply ever.
@earthchill1 Жыл бұрын
Really cool project! Tricky with the forward motors confusing the flight controller. It looks like this could be supported in ArduPilot, almost out of the box. It should work as a quad plane with a scripting matrix (Q_FRAME_CLASS=15) for the motors and “Manual Forward Throttle in VTOL Modes” (RCx_OPTION=209) for forward throttle. If there is a lack of PWM outputs it could work with the frame type as octaquad with an H-frame and some motors in parallel.
@kingbeestacker873 Жыл бұрын
Don Karnage was my favorite Disney villainous character. Love his name too. Tailspin is like my favorite after school cartoon from that era.
@sethkearl8056 Жыл бұрын
The Wright Brothers of this century brought in the pup for backup. Great video!
@richardleinenweaver3067 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see your using my idea
@sthomas6369 Жыл бұрын
It also looked like the two "pontoons" (for want of a better term) were oscillating in pitch in relationship to each other - one pontoon would go up slightly, the other down, & vice versa. It might make sense to put something that stiffens between the pontoons so they don't oscillate in reference to each other. I noted this after 15:00 in the video.
@LiquidJeM4031 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@alexandergrimsmo Жыл бұрын
It could probably be tuned by diddling the PIDs. But there might be too much structural oscillation for that to be practically possible for the production deadline.
@warrenadams2157 Жыл бұрын
Great thinking out of the box. Love it
@neilcaywood3803 Жыл бұрын
You guy's are awesome! You are such a good team all of you working to accomplice the mission. I know you don't want to change the configuration but tractor or may be middle of that thing for thrust. I love flite Test!
@joshbixler1261 Жыл бұрын
You’re definitely on to something. 100% agree. :)
@neilcaywood3803 Жыл бұрын
@@joshbixler1261 Josh it is so good to here from you! I don't remember the iron vulture you could still have motors on the back of it for looks. I always look forward to the next video.
@projectbumblejeep4190 Жыл бұрын
Just a thought, instead of syncing 3 adjacent motors, mix the syncing side to side and sync in 4 motors instead of 3. Might increase stability. Hope this helps. God bless, stay well. Happy New Year!
@michiganengineer8621 Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the thought with syncing 3 was to allow more or less standard quad copter control at least as far as the lift/hover is concerned. I do agree with your thought as far as the adjacent motors is concerned. Maybe something like: Motor channel #1 controlling 2 at right front and 1 at left rear, MC2 controls 2 at right rear and 1 at left front, MC3 has 2 at left rear and 1 at right front, MC4 has 2 at left front and 1 at right rear.
@meyaht Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you guys keep making TailSpin plans!
@sinformant Жыл бұрын
Me too! I've been wanting them to make this forever. They now need to make tiny scale air pirates planes to land on and launch from it!
@davidunderwood1907 Жыл бұрын
Nothing better than the giant sea duck
@EJ-74 Жыл бұрын
The dog was like look at these lunatics trying to fly this behemoth 😆🤣 Fun vid guy's 👍🏻
@michael140169 Жыл бұрын
You probably have too much on your mind already when doing these tests but it would be fun to see your guys heart rates when you do these type of tests. Just watching already raises my heart rae.
@David-yo5ws Жыл бұрын
I was just looking at his thumbs above the joystick and could see them trembling. That's real adrenaline flowing through the blood right there. Poor Josh, a lot of pressure not to crash too early till they get some feedback. 😱P.S ignore the 'scammer' in the reply above. That is NOT flitetest.
@kjpphotography4764 Жыл бұрын
I love you guys, you are like the ILM of RC stuff.
@bbull789 Жыл бұрын
LOL!!! that was great! Just from looking at the video, I would say your frame needs to be a bit more rigid longitudinally. It will help with the flight controller and the stabilization.
@trondaustad8617 Жыл бұрын
Nice prosjekt boys. And the video is good like allways. Have a nice weekend
@madxenomorph Жыл бұрын
I really hope you build the Sea Duck to the scale and a few of the pirate planes too!
@LolbitVMc Жыл бұрын
That looks awesome!
@coreymcardle1916 Жыл бұрын
Loving the project! You guys are awesome! I recommend moving ALL the batteries to the very middle of the carrier (under the orange foam pad, if possible). With all the weight of the batteries on the outer edge, the motors have to work harder to move all that mass back to "in balance". Keep up the great work!
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@Emanemoston Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video.
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@microbuilder Жыл бұрын
Awesome project! Could you thrust vector the pusher motors to help keep the nose down during forward flight?
@anatoliybelyankin Жыл бұрын
No. Need a correct CG for wing. Stabilizer can halp it.
@P8FPV Жыл бұрын
Great work guys
@colinboneham7387 Жыл бұрын
Wow that will be a beast once it’s finished
@kevinsellsit5584 Жыл бұрын
At 9:20 "Do you even watch our shows?" roflol :) When you said you were going to add thrust motors on the back, I was thinking "I hope they use gear reduction motors spinning box fan blades at 0-10 RPM." Although it might be difficult to source counter-rotating box fans.
@stephencantbewrong8250 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@kwmcgreal Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see this build!
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@brettnelson7048 Жыл бұрын
1:06 I remember that airship! That was hilarious!
@birdmanaviator Жыл бұрын
Classic cartoontale Spin love it! That was the go to cartoon on Saturday morning 1980's90's
@DavidBauer38 Жыл бұрын
I keep forgetting that the background in Flite Test videos is as important as the foreground!!! Hope there’s an epic tank battalion vs. air squadron battle in the future!
@BenderOMetal Жыл бұрын
Some thing hat might help with the pitching up with forward thrust would be adjusting the thrust angle on the pushing motors. A little down thrust may help a lot. Good luck with the project I'll be watching with anticipation. I loved Tail Spin.
@coffeeshangarworkshop8051 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see you guys build a dedicated launch system on the top of that golf cart that you have. They can get up to pretty good speed and the roof is pretty stable to mount stuff too. You could either design a Carriage with a hook release (manual from the cart or Remote Pilot activated), or even a catapult system that could increase forward speed for faster aircraft. Of course, you could always go full FliteTest crazy and put a carrier deck on top, LOL. Frankly for some of the larger craft you are building lately, something like that would actually be safer. I see you guys hand launching large stuff, or trying to do it from the back of a pickup truck, stuff like that. Just for safety sake a dedicated.. Launch Cart ...seems like a sensible project for you guys to take on.
@user-dg5br2lx1k Жыл бұрын
Good show. It is looks like a turbulence problem. Forwarding motors make a throw on a taking up layer that makes venicle instabill. Basic it is positive takeof pressure must be minimum ocupated. On my opinion its good to put forwarding motors inside on long landing tubes or upyard of the taking of layer.
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@PMcDFPV Жыл бұрын
2 things..... 1st thank you for making this awesomeness! 2nd this makes me want to move back to the midwest to be able to come play! lol
@martinmckowen1588 Жыл бұрын
You may also be experiencing flap-back with the front rotors as it transitions to forward flight and encounters clean air and produces more lift
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@wetbobspongepants Жыл бұрын
A flying (hovering) Aircraft Carrier. Hover it and land fixed wing craft on it or drones, whatever. Great content, keep 'em coming.
@TheElnots Жыл бұрын
Loved TaleSpin when I was growing up!
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@ulwur Жыл бұрын
That cross brace between the pontoons becomes a great big nutball when it flies forward.
@traci1360 Жыл бұрын
YES NEW VID
@connerthatdude9369 Жыл бұрын
Love the theme
@connerthatdude9369 Жыл бұрын
Bro I have already gotten two messages like this. Just stop its annoying asf
@garyhilson7220 Жыл бұрын
your guy make engineering fun!!!!!!!!!
@skydivekrazy76 Жыл бұрын
Interesting things are created when nerds have time and resources! Thanks for this.
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@Boden_Worms Жыл бұрын
Morning FliteTest : )
@fakenews7266 Жыл бұрын
You should do a magic carpet with a life-sized Aladdin sitting on it taking a ride , that would flip some people out 😂
@TheMightyPooh420 Жыл бұрын
The open ends are the problem. They are acting like air foils when the thrusters are off, then the thrusters are directly behind them, pulling air through them, creating suction on the front side. Seal the boughs front and back with standard bough shapes
@pankajwaghela83 Жыл бұрын
Nice 👍🏿
@artblakey4159 Жыл бұрын
Looks like the toward thruster should be mounted near the cg, as to minimize unwanted pitch inputs. You could also tow it, might be tricky but fun
@thereed4443 Жыл бұрын
right in the childhood button. Can't wait to see this all together !
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@ZEDTHEAUSSIE Жыл бұрын
Guys what you do is awesome, love your videos, can you please make a like personal sized Ekranoplan at some stage??? That would be so sick!!
@Robert-ni6ut Жыл бұрын
Awesome build maby trying tractor configuration with the thrust motors instead of pusher .😄
@rlbutterfield Жыл бұрын
Neat video! 👍🏻🙂
@rlbutterfield Жыл бұрын
Did you guys have some kind of prize contest through Discord, or was this a scam?
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@hazellmdh8329 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@carlbonner Жыл бұрын
With you trying to land and take off from this in the future, you might want to consider putting the props below the flight deck level to keep from AXing the smaller planes.
@cartmanrlsusall Жыл бұрын
The small variables in motor output is what I think is keeping it from being stable. Fewer but bigger motors would probably fix that. It's a cool project and looks like it could lift the truck that's transporting it to the airfield
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@EJ-74 Жыл бұрын
Let's Go 🔥
@52chevy3100 Жыл бұрын
love the shirt, cmmg
@christhorney Жыл бұрын
lol could you imagine chris rosser doing frame resonance testing on this thing lmao it looked like the exaggerated simulation already irl flexing like crazy lol thats so dam funny!
@user-vo4wc2jz8g Жыл бұрын
Great fun!;😁
@nzabs4403 Жыл бұрын
with this working i think that a VTOL plane like a Harrier or Marvel Quinjet would be the logical next awesome step
@blahorgaslisk7763 Жыл бұрын
It flew all the way into the ground! But that's a good thing as it flew. It FLEW. So from here it's going to get better.
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@TheTonester2312 Жыл бұрын
I loved that show growing up. Make an air surfer too! Just like how the son in the show would do it.
@walk4718 Жыл бұрын
You could build a house on those beams. What a thought, a flying house.
@IpokeSmot420 Жыл бұрын
Love the project guys. My thoughts on the stability, although only an amateur observation, is you guys are treating it like a multirotor programming wise but attempting to fly it like a fixed wing. This seems to make the aircraft pitch for forward movement which makes the thrusters point up forcing the rear down. That action is causing the fight controller to get severely confused.
@OpaFPV Жыл бұрын
Great video! I like the idea of Acro mode. Also, please make sure AirMode is set on all the time. As you increase the size of the 12 motors, I'd suggest going with smaller motors for the two thrust motors in back. The two thrust motors are not part of the flight controller, correct? That is, you are inputting thrust through a PWM channel that is going around the "4" motor output from the flight controller. The ArduPilot guys are probably looking at this and ready to make suggestions on how you can get the thrust motors integrated into the flight controller like they do for VTOLs. DaveM
@darinscines8342 Жыл бұрын
Ok.. of I may add a suggestion. Change the forward thrust motors to tractor motor. Pilling feom the front. That will help in pitch. Also horizontal stabs in rear with elevators simply for trim.
@BillGriggs Жыл бұрын
Nice. Maybe some down thrust on the rear motors to get the thrust angle closer to the center of pressure.
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@MotoB108 Жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine trying to land a helicopter or plane on it. Maybe try it with like a drone first I don’t know. Keep up the good work!
@dsbgolf Жыл бұрын
You guys have way to much fun. Where are you based out of? I love that you are are followers of Jesus and do what you do as a door to sharing your faith in him with others. So far my favorites are the WWII planes, especially the B-17. I was on a B-17 H at our local air show in July, just for the tour, it was awesome. Any way, God bless and keep doing what you do. From flying B-17s, to flying pigs, mailboxes and Tugboats, keep it in the air.
@perhalik Жыл бұрын
mix in extra throtle for last 2 horizontal motors when adding throtle for those 2 motors in back for forward movement. It should counteract pitching up effect. Or mount those 2 back motors tilted down. I would build movable gondolas for them so you can turn them and use for better steering 🙂
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@00buckshotbill1 Жыл бұрын
I have a suggestion for finding C/B. If you were to place a length of PVS pipe under the project and roll it forward or backward until it is balanced. Voila, C/B.
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@Skwisgar2322 Жыл бұрын
If you plan to fly it level it would maybe be good to add some small thrusters left, right and reverse. It would require more software tweaking, but then you can have directional control without effecting your pitch/yaw/roll.
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@texaswildcat2000 Жыл бұрын
A thought...maybe change the angle of your thrust engines...angle a little downward to give it a slight upward push to counter the front raising...a sort of equalizing the nose up from thrust and forward momentum...simpliest method to try before working on programming anything...
@Aldoor Жыл бұрын
I told you it was a great radio. :)
@danmay6493 Жыл бұрын
puller props or puller & pusher props set to similer rpm maybe? This will keep from the pusher pushing forward so much it pushes the back down.
@Sickzero Жыл бұрын
That first fire-up sounded like a swarm of very angry hornets coming in!
@sundayromance7253 Жыл бұрын
Yall need to build this thing with a landing strip on top of it and have planes take off from it in mid air and see which plane can safely land back on it
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@Matthew-zx8cs Жыл бұрын
Now I gotta go watch tailspin
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@craigchatterton4164 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried a separate TX control just for the "thrusters"? Leave the two main sticks just for the twelve heli motors and bind a slider to control horizontal thrust. That should give you more control and less chance of it trying to over correct.
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@-MindDrive- Жыл бұрын
This was fun to watch... why not have the horizontal pull like a plane prop instead of pushing like a boat? or both?
@TechnicallyTom Жыл бұрын
Think you should set up the thruster motors as 3D so you can back up too.
@pwahlster Жыл бұрын
Pitch the thrust motors down a tiny bit to counter the nose up pitch.
@soultracer Жыл бұрын
Idea, put the motors to the front, so that they are pulling and not pushing like now.
@jemlittle1787 Жыл бұрын
Awesome build guys BUT I think you need to move your forward motors to middle of the frame, it is changing the thrust dynamic where it is placed and your fc can no way keep up with it. If the forward motors are central and smaller they wont affect the hover as much. Love your show and aspire to follow the path.
@TitoRigatoni Жыл бұрын
That wouldn't look right though. Thrust motors need to be at the back to match the original.
@t-rexanimations5432 Жыл бұрын
Hello, and welcome to flite test
@colinstace1758 Жыл бұрын
Smaller thruster motors, or flatter pitch props might help ?
@koolerpure Жыл бұрын
The day smaller drones take off from it ill be excited but so far its promising
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@kjpphotography4764 Жыл бұрын
Can you use smaller motors for the rear that do the pushing?
@thomasdiersch1181 Жыл бұрын
I think that you should move the thrust motors more to the middle
@Werd2jaH Жыл бұрын
Also: ever thought of making this into an Rc plane? The Piaggio Pegna PC.7 Schneider trophy racer??
@thomascalton3067 Жыл бұрын
Need to set this up in the cockpit to fly like a copter. Yaw on the foot pedals, collective and pitch/roll on sticks
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@salimufari Жыл бұрын
I am really curious if you are going to add the Helium or more fun yet Hydrogen blimps to either side as the original design had?
@tobins6800 Жыл бұрын
Couple of thoughts, weight under the rotors, torsional rigidity, and smaller forward thrusters
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@johnnyrocket3200 Жыл бұрын
You could fill the floats with Helium Balloons :-)))
@drbrickner Жыл бұрын
I think you should split your thrust mothers between front and back. Tractors would not have the surfboard effect.. a good experiment would be to reverse the thrust motors in your existing configuration
@Cucumber_Jones Жыл бұрын
How you shipping a mattress back without an industrial sized vacuum press?
@jgplanes5183 Жыл бұрын
Fill a rubber raft with helium and attach it to to your craft. It should offset some of the weight and make your batteries last longer. PS I’m making Don Karnage’s plane. Cheers!
@dirtydogfpv6905 Жыл бұрын
motors on servos for the win
@frankienv3906 Жыл бұрын
I think the thruster motors you have in the rear should be placed in the center of the craft to stop that nose up pitch on throttle up.
@fooman2108 Жыл бұрын
I know you have differential thrust in order to give yourselves rudder control, what would happen and I don't have any clue how hard it would be, if you managed to put, say the first two Motors in the same differential thrust? Like as you increase the throttle it would throttle the two front Motors to help keep the nose down and change the center of lift a little farther forward in order to make it fly level?
@justinhobart8747 Жыл бұрын
😉👍 Awesome! Didn't I suggest this bild to you 🤔... I can't remember, I think I did In a comment a few months ago... ❤️ it
@justinhobart8747 Жыл бұрын
😃 Yes, yes I did!!! 5 months ago, in " Building the world's biggest foam RC airplane?! " video comments... Thank you guys for taking my suggestion... 😉👍 I love it! ❤️
@joshbixler1261 Жыл бұрын
We wouldn’t be here without all the great feedback and ideas! Thank you brother. :)
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