Flood talks about Enjoy the Silence [Soundedit 2011]

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@minisake2091 3 жыл бұрын

Flood & Wilder had patience of saints. You can’t think straight working in such a negative environment. I totally get why Alan left but miss him badly.

@MayLily 8 ай бұрын

Flood & Alan Wilder were truly the dream team, and Depeche Mode made their 2 masterpiece albums (Violator & SOFAD) with them back then.

@sivabala5425 4 жыл бұрын

this Man just showed what a loss Alan is

@alienmachine 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking

@boyddickson1751 Жыл бұрын

The key words..."myself and Alan sat in the studio". Martin Gore could never have been a frontman, so Dave Gahan gets some latitude in relation to his own problems and leaving Alan Wilder isolated. fletch gets...nothing. Martin Gore obviously had incredible idea. But Alan Wilder put in the time, effort, dedication, ingenuity etc. etc. etc. Always HIM and the producer. We was under-valued, and (apparently) under-paid to the point of near-criminality. But he will NEVER be forgotten.

@Lawtasaj Жыл бұрын

alan is a legend

@DxModel219 Жыл бұрын

Alan is forever. Though he did worked the most, keep in mind he still has royalty and feedback rights til this day. He is still getting royalties from any sales or contracts coming from the songs or albums from when he was an official band member. So maybe underpaid compared to the rest but he is said to be networthed $40 Million even though he lost money on Recoil. That is type of wealth is bonkers lol. I am happy for him.

@nellsun2521 Жыл бұрын

Yep. The genius was combining the sad song with the groovy instrumental. That's where the magic seems to come from; it makes you feel a wide range of emotions. (A morbid song with a euphoric pulse.)

@InfraRedLight Ай бұрын

@DxModel219 I suppose Alan has lost more money with divorces than Recoil.

@gahan101 3 жыл бұрын

One of the skills Alan had,in my opinion, is that he could put some light whenever Martin's demos were too dark without betraying the nature of the songs.

@mabinilink9736 2 жыл бұрын

Alan Wilder is no doubt a true Depeche Mode fingerprint. Truly miss his work on Depeche.

@solidnakehoho5106 Жыл бұрын

Totally agree.He always does the extra work .

@franksound6922 Жыл бұрын

For a period of time definitely… after that, nobody knows. He did a Depeche Mode remix in 2011 that sounded like 1992. Wilder is brilliant and i like him to bits, but you never know if his taste did evolve enough. The Delta Machine album sounds very American and the good songs on there are extremely strong DM songs … but they re not very British and not 80s / 90s

@InfraRedLight 2 ай бұрын

@franksound6922 That is exactly why Delta Machine doesn’t fit my taste. It is very American, not British (or European).

@CarlosCuevasCantautor 5 жыл бұрын

This guy is awesome. One of the best producers around.

@PlanetoftheDeaf 3 жыл бұрын

Great stuff. That shows why Martin sometimes needs a strong outside voice to guide him, as his instincts aren't always right

@musiclove4635 4 жыл бұрын

It's abundantly clear that Alan deserved songwriting and production credit. I can't blame him for leaving, yet I would give anything to see him work with them again. His remix of In Chains was better than the original.

@DxModel219 Жыл бұрын

He may deserve it but he humbly didn't want it. He admits he hates writing songs and does not like being a producer EVEN though the producer of music for the masses said Alan was really the producer and he was just co-producing. Alan is one humble guy... he just wanted to make good music.

@user-yq4bb2tu6w 3 жыл бұрын

Flood doing Martin is so funny

@Judy-1989 5 жыл бұрын

Flood's great. Enjoy listening to him.

@Lawtasaj Жыл бұрын

Daniel Miller really sleeping on the job by letting Alan leave

@SharLeeRV 4 жыл бұрын

So, my favorite song of all times was an accident and even his composer “didn’t really like it”... So glad it was a massive hit. The song was underrated in the studio, but how about it now?

@zzed101 10 ай бұрын

Drum sample source: Ten City - Foundation - "That's The Way Love Is (Deep House Mix / Extended Version)"

@simoharjane7823 Ай бұрын

while Andy went to sleep, the best DM track was born

@kleiber1729 2 жыл бұрын

Didn't quite expect the best video on DM I've ever seen today, in 2022, but that what seemed to have happened.

@arlindopatriciopatricio1825 4 жыл бұрын

Violator: "World In My Eyes" "Sweetest Perfection" "Personal Jesus" "Halo" "Waiting For The Night" "Enjoy The Silence" "Policy Of Truth" "Blue Dress" "Clean"

@nathanathome Жыл бұрын

Enjoy the Silence created in 3 days. Wonderful.

@sonofhibbs4425 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for uploading this!

@fredrikgerhardsson7278 2 жыл бұрын

Is it just me who thinks that ETS allmost was written by Flood/Wilder instead of Gore? Yeah. Sure. Gore wrote the demo. But its just an organ and Martin singing. This song proves how much impact a producer can have on a song.

@DxModel219 Жыл бұрын

Wilder actually requested Martin to do simple Demos without any beats or mixes in them after MFTM... It was so that Wilder and Flood could start with a stripped down slate. It was amazing what they did with them. Now, Martin has taken over Wilder's production and mixing work... that's why it still sounds like all Demo.

@ScottWozniak Жыл бұрын

Martin wrote the song. He wrote the words, melody and chord progression. That's what a song is. As much as I miss Alan, production is not songwriting.

@DxModel219 Жыл бұрын

@@ScottWozniak In the classical sense Alan wasn’t the songwriter but modern definitions do define Alan as a songwriter and should’ve been a credited to cowriter. Alan enhanced and did a much better job at progression than Martin. As talented as Martin is, Alan turned his songs to legendary music

@92trdman Жыл бұрын

After checking the timeline, Alan Wilder give so much to the band and until the point his wife left. I think as a man he feels disappointed and left the band...(hearts broken)

@amulpatel 3 жыл бұрын

wow.. sometimes magic is created so fast

@viol8r 3 жыл бұрын

Thank god for producers PUSHING artists to get the maximum benefit of their music. Like Mutt Lange and Def Leppard.

@arlindopatriciopatricio1825 4 жыл бұрын

Daniel Miller Gareth Jones David Bascombe Flood Alan Wilder

@1pseudo 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@arlindopatriciopatricio1825 4 жыл бұрын

David Callcott Gahan Andrew John Leonard Fletcher Martin Lee Gore Alan Charles Wilder Mark Ellis Flood

@ulmeulme 3 жыл бұрын

Flood + Alan \0/

@eduardoteodorobracamonteal397 5 ай бұрын

Thanks David M. Allen

@PatheticoMorbid 4 жыл бұрын

Tough crowd

@scottcharney1091 5 жыл бұрын

How did they convince Martin to do the backup vocals on that song?

@simonemghilardi 3 жыл бұрын

I see that a lot of people are mentioning Bizarre Love Triangle as the song where the drums were lifted from, but I can clearly hear a sample from Music Non Stop by Kraftwerk as the snare drum in the intro of ETS (original KW song at 2:45, add reverb and you got the sound), also the hihat pattern is clearly the same anticipated by 1/4 note, what do you guys think?

@andevode Жыл бұрын

You got it! I just listened to it, and that is definitely the same sample! It's probably the same hi-hat too, just EQ'ed and processed differently. Great ear!

@alexwestconsulting Жыл бұрын

sounded like BLT to me when i first heard it and it fits the narrative. I THOUGHT it was going to be I Fee Love, but no. I would NOT call Musique Non Stop a disco track by any stretch of the imagination. Music Non Stop does not fit the MO, nor does it sound the same, MNS being Kraftwerk's foray into sample territory and Karl Bartos himself leaving Kraftwerk because of that album: "The problem started when the computer arrived in the studio,” says Bartos. “A computer has nothing to do with creativity, it’s just a tool, but we outsourced creativity to the computer. We forgot about the centre of what we were. We lost our physical feeling, no longer looking each other in the eye, only staring at the monitor."' MNS sounds very 80's in a bad way, terrible gated drum samples awash in terrible 80's digital reverb.

@andevode Жыл бұрын

@@alexwestconsulting I just watched an interview with Martin Gore talking to Telekom in 2013. He said they were heavily influenced by Kraftwerk in the old days. And there is a sample from Musique Non Stop used in the intro of the album version of Enjoy the Silence on beats two and four. And the hi-hats sound similar as well as the tempo. MNS is not a disco track, but given all this evidence, I'm sure that's the song that influenced Enjoy the Silence - as weird as that sounds.

@nellsun2521 Жыл бұрын

To be fair, there's loads of house and acid-house tracks that beat could've been from.

@alexwestconsulting Жыл бұрын

@@nellsun2521 flood made it clear that the song they sampled from (not just copied) was a seminal, very well know track

@nickhaas9839 3 жыл бұрын

That drum beat is like the start of D MOB we call it aciieeed

@nellsun2521 Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking. A house or acid-house track, at least. (Everyone seems to think it was from New Order or Iron Maiden which wouldn't make much sense to me, as they're too well known in the pop world.)

@HevyDev 4 жыл бұрын

This is fucking gold!!!))))

@ITSTHEHOLYONE 4 жыл бұрын

well played.

@ITSTHEHOLYONE 4 жыл бұрын

on the nest and the conversation view--the bootee and the ball

@funguy29 6 жыл бұрын

Alan wilder got screwed over

@dkmyww 6 жыл бұрын

It is clear why Alan Wilder left ....with fletcher managing the bags.... it’s no wonder he left .... As he said in his goodbye note .. he was doing the screwdriver work .... doing the work with the producer.. laying the track and Martin claiming all the credit ! Wilder should have been given more credit for writing the songs ..!

@Judy-1989 5 жыл бұрын

Ahhhh. Just as I suspected-Martin's a bitch.

@pepinillosazucarados6743 4 жыл бұрын

@@Judy-1989 WICH ONE IS MARTIN THE GAY ONE ?

@Judy-1989 4 жыл бұрын

@@pepinillosazucarados6743 Martin is the one with floofy blonde hair. I doubt that any of the fab four (Wilder, Fletch, Gore & Gahan) are gay. OMG!!!!!! 💖 DM is finally getting into the RARHOF!!!!!!! WOO! HOO! Party hard!

@pepinillosazucarados6743 4 жыл бұрын

Judy 1989 I always thought Martin was a homo 😳

@Judy-1989 4 жыл бұрын

@@pepinillosazucarados6743 One would think that. 😏

@alessiofontana5667 3 жыл бұрын

Not only is the drum sound taken straight from BLT but that drum sample that you can hear after the first refrain comes from a 70's disco song. Can't remember the name though... That said, it seems like the choir/strings sound come from a factory preset of Korg M1 synthesizers. I always thought that the bassline was created using a sound made from a Moog Model D and ARP 2600. Nice to know it was a Roland System 700 (you can see the same system in some video footage of Sofad recordings session in Madrid).

@Esperluet 2 жыл бұрын

BLT ?

@alessiofontana5667 2 жыл бұрын

@@Esperluet Bizarre Love Triangle

@basehead617 2 жыл бұрын

I would've given anything to be at this talk

@HynekRozkovec 4 жыл бұрын

Does anybody know where they lifted the drums from? Is it "Vanishing Point" by New Order pitched a little bit lower?

@pern1044 4 жыл бұрын

Love Bizarre Triangle :)

@kramskee 7 жыл бұрын

I didn't know they used a drum sample! what is the original track called that the drum sample comes from?

@rollerskater 4 жыл бұрын

Someone said "Stayin' Alive" by the Bee Gees which fits and is an obvious choice.

@johnnebauer436 8 ай бұрын

So basically,DM is Alan wilder & David Gahn.

@naglim6447 Жыл бұрын

That bass line sounds like ‘Blue Monday’

@alertbox 5 ай бұрын

That's what I thought

@iSowelu Жыл бұрын

Odd to use the term 'Disco' when explaining this demo and even the final cut song. Disco has specific sounds and is a genre that refers to dance music that was birthed during a specific era in time. Disco evolved into various forms of Dance Music in the early 80s, then eventually branched off to Freestyle and variations of House through the years before electronic genres and dance fusions took off in the 2000s. Now there is more dance fusion than there are specific dance genres - a mixed bag with a lot of throwbacks (especially to the 90's Deep House club scene sound). Any song or demo with a steady bass beat shouldn't be referred to as disco, and this was also true in 1990, so this term was probably used as a pejorative to express disdain for a proper dance track, which makes sense since the Disco genre was closer to 1990 than it is today and suffered unfair ridicule which left a stain on the genre. It's kind of like how a lot of people refer to several house genres as 'Techno' today - when in most cases, they are not. When Enjoy The Silence was created and released, Disco was still something of the past and had a specific sound. Enjoy the Silence was indeed a dance track, but with DM mood and soul, and it yielded some amazing official and underground house mixes and got a lot of club play back in the day. No one felt that this song was unusual or a departure for DM since a lot of their mixes hit the club scene in major clubs in the 80s and 90s. Actually, I was hoping DM would lean more into this layered sound with their next album, but I grew to love SOFAD, which was heavily influenced by the exploding grunge scene at the time, but still remained uniquely DM.

@shhh3185 Жыл бұрын

Those drums sound just like Bizarre Love Triangle

@charlessomerset9754 5 жыл бұрын

Drums are from New Orders Bizarre Love Triangle. Id bet my bottom dollar.

@Muskateering 5 жыл бұрын

Might be right.

@nicobaudry 5 жыл бұрын

I thought the exact same thing. Pretty sure about it. But Flood won't reveal his secret. ;)

@MrBeen992 4 жыл бұрын

The pattern sounds like the intro of BLT but if you are implying its an audio sample, I don't think so. The drums are different

@pern1044 4 жыл бұрын

I would too.

@Analogsoup 4 жыл бұрын

It is bizarre love triangle from 12” remix ?

@AZDC99 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, the drums isolated alone make it sound like the intro to "Run To The Hills" from Iron Maiden. Can't be! But I can't think of any other drumbeat but that one hearing the drums alone

@nellsun2521 Жыл бұрын

Sounds much more like a house beat to me. The bass is like many acid house tracks from the late '80s.

@peterfrantz477 2 жыл бұрын

I think the drum beat that was copied is from a very particular song from the early 80s, but with another sound instead of the hi-hat. I think Flood smiles in a certain way when he talks about it for a reason... :)

@nellsun2521 Жыл бұрын

There's loads of house tracks it could've been from around that time.

@validcore 3 жыл бұрын

Has the original drum track been confirmed?

@michaeldavis9422 7 жыл бұрын

He's the best record producer in the industry. God like Genius. Check out his work on the Depeche Mode Ultra album.

@thirdlantern 7 жыл бұрын

That was Tim Simenon. Flood did "Violator" and "Songs Of Faith And Devotion"; it was a confluence of genius peaking altogether.

@werideatdusk Жыл бұрын

How about his work with U2, Smashing Pumpkins, and Nine Inch Nails?

@stevengn7245 Жыл бұрын

Bizarre Love Triangle for the beat?

@mchlbk 4 ай бұрын

Puk Studios burned down last year, sadly.

@nealspence2946 7 жыл бұрын

Awful crowd dude

@rednax3333 6 жыл бұрын

seriously!... not even one chuckle, and Flood is hilarious! ah well

@yuccatree4298 3 жыл бұрын

@Neal Spence Go easy on them. They're Polish. Probably not getting much of what he's saying 🌻

@InfraRedLight 2 ай бұрын

Does anyone know why Depeche Mode didn’t collaborate with Flood anymore after Alan Wilder’s departure? I would love to know it 🤔

@simoharjane7823 Ай бұрын

as soon as he was done with SOFAD he promised himself that he would never suffer again .

@InfraRedLight Ай бұрын

@simoharjane7823 Really? 😅 Did he say this or it’s your opinion? He has made Freelove mix for Exciter then 🤔

@McSpacerson 7 жыл бұрын

I know the Disco song he lifted the drums from. :)

@chaidaddy786 6 жыл бұрын

McSpacerson which song??

@mrmike743 6 жыл бұрын

Tell us please if u really know

@marcopolli1463 6 жыл бұрын

I thought about Bizarre Love Triangle, from New Order

@marcopolli1463 6 жыл бұрын

or Touched by the Hand of God

@BitcoinWillFixEverything 6 жыл бұрын

They really need to work with flood again. The music sucks for the last four or five albums.

@alittlebyrd1804 6 жыл бұрын

Bee Gees staying alive drums sample

@ToHaveAndToHold 4 жыл бұрын

Would very much like to hear a mashup ;-)

@werideatdusk Жыл бұрын

It ain't it

@oldfatbastad6053 2 жыл бұрын

dave and andy piss off for the weekend, gore spends most of it in his room. goes to show who did all the work. gore is overrated. little wonder that after sofad flood had had enough, alan too.

@Electrostat21 5 жыл бұрын

I think the disco beat was franki valli grease

@cbtu2000 3 жыл бұрын

My guess is he "copied" the beat from Express Yourself with Madonna. Could that be it? :-)

@peterfrantz477 2 жыл бұрын

I think it is from a song from 1982, but with another sound instead of the hi-hat. I think Flood smiles in a certain way when he talks about it for a particular reason...

@dasneonlicht 2 жыл бұрын

I think you're right - I don't know where everyone else is getting "Bizarre Love Triangle." BLT opens the hi-hat on the fourth count and the bass drum is on 1 and 3. Except for the gated snare fills, "Express Yourself" fits perfectly - exactly the same hi-hat pattern, snare on 2, just before 3, and 4, and bass drum four-to-the-floor. Also, Depeche Mode ripping off the Queen of Pop (and really, she was ripping off house music) from just the year before is way funnier and cheekier than ripping off New Order from seven years ago

@SuperMax_____0.0_____ 3 жыл бұрын

So they probably copy some acid house record

@anaranjadisimo 3 жыл бұрын

a very obscure and badass one.. that beat doesn't age and its full of life and energy.

@TheFixMaker Жыл бұрын

@@anaranjadisimo True! It was D mob - We call it aceeed that was out in clubs in '89. (they were producing the record in '89 to be out in 1990). Listen with your ears: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qcqpachezbvUemg.html

@mirandagmail410 6 жыл бұрын

Feel sorry for Flood. Worst crowd ever!

@jeshkam 4 жыл бұрын

Are they supposed to dance or what?

@debaxer 3 жыл бұрын

He was hilarious here, especially while impersonating Martin, which maybe went over their head. They're not native English speakers so maybe a lot of them didn't relate to his sense of humor.

@oldfatbastad6053 2 жыл бұрын

ive seen more life in a dogs fur

@grahambell2238 5 жыл бұрын

I'm not a betting man BUT if I was id say Enjoy The Silence owes a LOT to BLT by New Order!!!

@nellsun2521 Жыл бұрын

New Order owe a lot to house and acid-house tracks in general. I doubt DM would've chosen New Order to copy at that point in time as they were so closely related already. Would've been too obvious a choice.