Floor Tom to Bass Drum Conversion

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00:00 Background & Intro
01:40 Shopping at Sweetwater for Parts
05:56 Unboxing & Installing Parts
07:43 D'addario Players' Circle
08:28 Setting Up To Play
09:12 Sound Demos
12:43 Final Thoughts
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@Luisrdrummer 3 ай бұрын

Killer drum sounds! The snare has that 311 ”amber” tone 😮

@malonedrum 3 ай бұрын

That’s an iconic sound that I know instantly when you say that

@Medievalfan94 2 ай бұрын

repeatability on the spurs would be fixed by a permanent marker to mark the position of the spur relative to the bracket. just a ring around the spur to mark the insertion depth and a line across the meeting area to mark the angle. I did that with my cymbal stands to have the set up the same way everytime. works fine, although I need to refresh the markings every once in a while before they rub off completely.

@malonedrum 2 ай бұрын

I've done stuff like this with a snare stand, but the teeth help it to remain consistent, I've just found even with marking on bracket like a leg spur, it's still so much more frustrating than the fold out spurs that lock in place the exact same with a couple of seconds of work.

@Medievalfan94 2 ай бұрын

@@malonedrum yeah true, indexed mechanics are just so much faster to setup repeatedly to the same position. My suggestion was just a remedy if you HAD to work without it. :D

@malonedrum 2 ай бұрын

@@Medievalfan94 Of course, great hack!

@DrumnBird1 4 күн бұрын

Thank you! This video is very helpful for me. I will definitely return to it if I decide to convert my floor tom to a bass drum! :-)

@malonedrum 4 күн бұрын

Glad it was helpful to you!

@juancarlosbrenes4741 3 ай бұрын

Nice video as always! I love your channel. From all the settings, I preferred the sound of small or no ring at all tunings. In my experience, adding too much muffling or using pre-muffled heads sucks out the volume of such a tiny kick drum. I love my 12x16 Broadkaster kick with no muffling or with one narrow felt strip for different jazz-related styles (e.g., bebop, swing, jazz-funk, Latin, or even fusion at lower tuning à la Keith Carlock). IMHO, 16 kick drums are not meant to substitute larger kick drums (20 or 22) or to emulate their sound in pop and rock contexts, although they can be used for those purposes when low volume is required.

@malonedrum 3 ай бұрын

Good tip.

@frankspikes7858 3 ай бұрын

Hey Mike cool project. I've seen this done before. Years ago this one company was selling a bass drum cradle device. I also saw an article in modern drummer doing the same thing. So the idea is not new. Thanks leaving the finish as is. That orange is really nice.

@malonedrum 3 ай бұрын

If you like the finish because you’re a Bears fan, we’re done…

@jc3drums916 3 ай бұрын

You would've had no reason to worry about stick marks with the black suede, considering you would've been using it as a reso. I heard the white suede heads are really easy to clean, perhaps the black suede are as well. I should give the EMAD a try on my converted bass drum. I use it on my other bass drums, but I had an Ebony Pinstripe lying around, so I've just been using that for the past 20 years, lol. It sounds good enough paired with one of those old hourglass pillows, and it's pretty much indestructible. Eventually I'd like to cut the drum down to 12" and set it up for bop.

@malonedrum 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, the emad is a really great system and I love the ability to adjust the muffling externally. Evans’ always does a nice job innovating in my opinion.

@Quartiano 3 ай бұрын

Cool comparison! I find myself using an emad with no ring so often! The plastic ring alone provides just enough tone control for me.

@malonedrum 3 ай бұрын

I can see that on a more conventional bass drum.

@Miloshe71 3 ай бұрын

I like your detail to the recording comparison. That’s a tough thing to do right, much less edit and compile.

@malonedrum 3 ай бұрын

Appreciate it, that’s always a challenge to make it pleasurable to listen to, but not overproduced.

@mccbuddytaras6637 3 ай бұрын

i did a similar thing with an 18, i used some gibraltar memory locks on the legs so it wouldn't be so fiddily when setting up.

@malonedrum 3 ай бұрын

Yup, that seems like a great idea

@davidhuckstep9703 3 ай бұрын

Awesome video mike

@malonedrum 3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@triboluminiscencia_ 3 ай бұрын

I gigged with a similar setup for a long time although I used the whole Dunnet kit to mount toms and all that, and a EMAD Calftone. Also needed a felt strip on the reso head for those punchy tones.

@malonedrum 3 ай бұрын

How’d you like the tom mount? I was curious if it really holds up or has enough flexibility for positioning

@triboluminiscencia_ 3 ай бұрын

@@malonedrum honestly positioning wasn't a hassle but it was a bit wobbly and got some time to get used to it. I suspect my tom mount didn't really fit my bracket but the legs did so I just swapped the mount for a snare stand and occasially used the tom mount for cowbells and lighter stuff.

@Overlycomplicatedswede 3 ай бұрын

personally i think the mid level tuning is best with a large ring sounds best with the sharper snare tuning you are running in the tests the highs feel more supported in my opinion but either way i really enjoyed hearing you play you were killing it on those fills!

@malonedrum 3 ай бұрын

Appreciate the kind words, I like that sounds as well.

@jamescassidy4045 2 ай бұрын

Hey! So for the different tunings, when you went back through them the second time for each tuning, what changed to make them sound a lot more punchy, and dampened? Dampening inside the drum also or something?

@malonedrum 2 ай бұрын

Hmmm, there’s a segment of the demo that has some added effects to the audio. I try to keep that stuff light, but there is some with compressions and EQ. Also, depending on if you play off or into the head with the beater it makes a huge tonal difference.

@ronaldwhite3836 3 ай бұрын

Love my micro

@malonedrum 3 ай бұрын

Certainly a fun/space saving option.

@founboy78 3 ай бұрын

What do you think of the Emad UV? I'm thinking of getting it for my new kit.

@malonedrum 3 ай бұрын

I don't have any specific feeling for the texture of the head given it's being struck with a bass drum beater. I'd be more inclined to give some thoughts on it if I could try it on snare, especially with brushes.

@adammono1839 3 ай бұрын

Great video! I'm shocked by the price of heads lately, might check out that rewards program

@malonedrum 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's certainly risen like everything else. The rewards program is really great.

@NintenDub 3 ай бұрын

Everything is ridiculous. It's so depressing

@scmcarthur 3 ай бұрын

Pearl also makes a conversion kit/hardware for much less then the Gibraltar one but it doesn't come with the tom mount.

@jc3drums916 3 ай бұрын

I don't know if it's the same as the one I got ~20 years ago, but the spurs are a little short. It isn't a big deal, as the entire drum is still off the ground, but it's a little weird to have the front be ever-so-slightly lower than the batter side, and it may mean the beater has to travel a little further than usual to make contact. I should remove the rubber feet and replace them with KBrakes, that might add a bit of extra height.

@malonedrum 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I find their kit weird because if you have three floor tom brackets to make it work, why would you also have the ISS mount to attach the kick pedal to? Doesn’t make sense to not have it come with that.

@LeakyJAZZ 2 ай бұрын

i have a lot of experience tuning small bass drums, and let me say man, that "low" tuning could have been a lot lower.

@malonedrum 2 ай бұрын

👍

@xetradax2679 3 ай бұрын

I have my doubts this project is economically justified, with all spares cost more then a new kick drum would cost. Only worth for specific project I guess.

@malonedrum 3 ай бұрын

I can respect and acknowledge that. Most of my projects I do are more of DIY options on the market, but I think the cost of this specific conversion was probably still less than buying a dedicated 16" bass drum, and allows this to be transferred back for it's original purpose without any permanent alterations.

@ivecadit 3 ай бұрын

You said "floor tom to Snare drum conversation kit"

@malonedrum 3 ай бұрын

Whoops, it happens. Hope you were able to look past it

@brothermyke6523 3 ай бұрын

He's a fulltime drummer. No big deal.

@NintenDub 3 ай бұрын

As someone who also doesnt have a beard, but scraggly solo hairs that grow up on the sides of the eyes, i think im qualified in saying the "sideburns" gotta go and you gotta shave your upper cheeks

@malonedrum 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching video, glad you took something away from it.

@adammono1839 3 ай бұрын

@malonedrum I think you look great Mike! And I'm really enjoying more of the pieces to camera you have been doing lately 👍

@malonedrum 3 ай бұрын

@@adammono1839 Thanks Adam!

@gregwonhoff7161 3 ай бұрын

Mike, thank you once again for sharing your work with all of us. I am a retired 39 year veteran in education and am so impressed with your teaching style. I think that you are a wonderful part of KZfaq drumming.❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️