I’m asking once again, despite the warnings under my channel guidelines and about page, to not attack anyone I have learned after this video Zayna was apparently between 11/12, meaning we can give her room of doubt of her not knowing tracing unless more evidence is found
@NyxTheBlackCat10 ай бұрын
ok im not braindead enough to attack someone when told not to anyway
@bugtherockstar10 ай бұрын
Uh… Flo… check her community page…
@Emuandarifan10 ай бұрын
glad to know u learnt and honestly. i trust u more just for this ^^
@cmool10 ай бұрын
11 to 12? shes so young.
@noellovesbutterflies10 ай бұрын
@@bugtherockstaryeah Flo she said she gave credit and apologized on her recent community post... But im still not sure about this....
@fuyunoyoru10 ай бұрын
can we talk about how much flotalendy's art has got prettier? i love the perspective of her oc in the speedpaint :D
@definitionofepic10 ай бұрын
ikr❤
@jiyakuches22010 ай бұрын
Yes :))
@_Hana_2410 ай бұрын
Yaa
@NotSolarStar9 ай бұрын
agreed!
@Jeon-Seyeon9 ай бұрын
Agreed!!! 💕
@apolloislowkeyfirewithasuncar10 ай бұрын
can we all agree that this community is basically just never going to catch a break? off topic, but flohida, your art has gotten wayyy better!! the drawing here looks gorgeous
@y2k.lover.boo010 ай бұрын
fr
@vyhuynh3327 ай бұрын
Flotalendy
@luluthewolf99957 ай бұрын
It was 2 months ago!
@Gacha_Nazrinofficial6 ай бұрын
Which is why I quit Gacha
@PinkSnowAJАй бұрын
flohida is a such a cute name xd
@confetti_x10 ай бұрын
Tracing a box is literally so f-ing embarrassing, this is coming from someone who’s an artist. This is just triggering to me-
@CheetixGlitch10 ай бұрын
I'm not an artist but yea- Like I'm still learning and I'm still confused on why she had to trace the box out of everything. The aesthetic ig. Still wrong tho
@Ionlyeatchipzeveryday10 ай бұрын
Right? I'm an animal and landscape artist but like I can literally draw cubes or even boxes when it comes to math 💀
@realdavidtennant9 ай бұрын
@@g00berthealien ok so? there's tons of other things she traced
@I-forgot-how-to-draw.9 ай бұрын
i’ve practice for years on perfecting my shoujo style girl drawings and yet i can draw a box
@LiterallyInklingGirl9 ай бұрын
It’s literally just 3 squares 😭😭 it’s not really even that hard
@Flotalendy10 ай бұрын
What’s worse? Tracing a box or cropping the box’s background and implementing it directly in your video?
@boomboxkermit10 ай бұрын
yes
@insertcringeazzusername10 ай бұрын
I don't even know 💀
@Eepyyyyyyyyyyyyy10 ай бұрын
Cropping the box's background and implementing into the video
@confetti_x10 ай бұрын
yes chain
@MelanieMartinezsuperior10 ай бұрын
Well it depends on how much they do it
@justagrape234310 ай бұрын
As an artist since 2018 I wanna clear something, I used to trace poses and and hands when I was a beginner and I got some hate because of that, so I started to train by tracing without posting them and now my art is amazing, in short instead of tracing without learning anything from it it's better to use it to learn by practicing after figuring out how it was drawn
@Happy_Face864Ай бұрын
It's ok but there's no problem tracing it, I understand you but you have to leave credits if you're going to trace something you won't suffer hate
@G0Re-K_TtEnАй бұрын
@@Happy_Face864actually if the creator doesn’t want it to be traced at all it’s a problem
@not.iconic10 ай бұрын
The fact she traced a box 😭💀
@lazzy-sy6dr9 ай бұрын
Girlie hit a different low-
@SkylerBloomer10 ай бұрын
I was gonna say that they referenced it but at this point this isn’t referencing anymore-
@_digital_lavender_10 ай бұрын
I’m so dissapointed, also tracing a box?! A box? I can hardly trust anyone anymore T-T…
@confetti_x10 ай бұрын
This community can’t have a break. Why can’t people just give proper credits or make their own. LIKE ZAYNA LITERALLY TOOK A BOX FROM SOMEONE! ITS NOT THAT HARD TO MAKE A BOX YOURSELF- like is it that hard to make a cardboard cube? It’s not that hard to put someone’s name when you give credits. It’s not that hard . Sorry for ranting
@Moon_l1ght_158 ай бұрын
She is now giving credits but she probably didn't know what credits mean- like you never know-
@Ark_Kit-20237 ай бұрын
She might've been not so good at drawing or have issues making it, but still doesn't give her the right to js use it and not even credit
@Ark_Kit-20237 ай бұрын
@@Moon_l1ght_15True, but I'm pretty sure she knows what it means and most likely didn't want to credit.
@DreiLyrics10 ай бұрын
It's funny like I watched Mika Rou's new video and she said that someone in the comments said that her art is traced but I really don't believe it because of their lack of evidence and probably jealous of her talent. In this situation is a complete opposite. Angel Zayna literally traced on hands, clothes, and other things without proper credits including the box like how hard to draw on that lmao. I hope that she learned her lessons after this and probably apologize to those original creators for tracing.
@NyxTheBlackCat10 ай бұрын
tl;dr: people dont need to be jealous to dislike someones content and not the person itself just saying you can dislike mika rous choice of content without being ‘jealous’ im not jealous of her tweening because in my personal opinion can probably recreate her tweening style, nor am i jealous of her gacha editing skill because i dont do gacha edits often😀 but i still dislike the choice of content also, dont you have that strange mindset when youre 20 years old?? 💀
@sleepyhead964110 ай бұрын
I mean Mika Rou still isn’t the best person, at one point she used my art for her CM video, (said art was posted on instagram and watermarked, also it wasn’t art I did for CM, just art I did with the CM base) without credit. When someone asked her to credit me on my behalf, she at first couldn’t understand why I would want credit for my art. But in the end she gave me credit. Also to make this worse the first version of that thumbnail ahead both my art and some assets from some of my fellow designers, and when they asked for credit, she removed my art and the assets, only to change it back to just my art later
@NyxTheBlackCat10 ай бұрын
@@sleepyhead9641 i feel like mika rou mightve done more than that the vibe she gives off is just.. not very awsome
@sleepyhead964110 ай бұрын
@@NyxTheBlackCatIf you want do have screenshots, but it’s definitely not something worth calling her out for, even if she never actually apologized/owned up to her mistakes
@sleepyhead964110 ай бұрын
But I’m kinda curious about what Flo would think of this situation, but since it’s happened months ago and was privately resolved IDK
@BigComfyCouchBronyGal10 ай бұрын
So, about me not knowing how to draw. Well, as a person who's already a tracer in the first place (!!!FULL CREDIT TO THE ORIGINAL OWNERS FOR THE BASES!!!), I do honestly feel bad for what the original artists, who Angel_zayna traced, had to go through with being traced by Angel or anyone else. Now before all of you come raging in my comment, DO let me explain. Firstly, I'm SLOWLY getting better at drawing. But, I still don't know how to make a straight line. Even with or without a ruler, digital or handdrawn But if you take a look at my artwork so far, you can clearly see that I didn't use any other pose base for most of them. I mean, sure. I created my own base through some Gacha apps/mods, and yet I still do it since I don't know jack crap about drawing full poses. There's a bit of a lesson for ya, I guess. And hopefully this explains my path of becoming a tracer. Not a bad tracer, but a LEARNING tracer (Again, slowly getting better. But, I can't draw worth a darn [lol]). Do take care now, and as two of my favorite youtubers always say: "Stay awesome!" and "May harmony finds you."
@Commraderanrin10 ай бұрын
If the tracing actually helps improve your art and you’re not claiming that it’s yours and you don’t post it, you’re safe and fine. I used to try to copy exactly of what other artists drew (I began traditional but the image was digital) and that was really cringe of me, but I eventually learnt to draw original content.
@BigComfyCouchBronyGal10 ай бұрын
Exactly the point. To me, doing that sort of thing is like a practice. But as I thought how bad it is (since I've seen so many calling out a tracer), I just got a little better. Once more, even without a base. But now I'm starting to create my own pose base through gacha apps/mods, I'm slowly getting better at drawing the full poses. But when it comes to using a base from an artist, I kept it to myself. Mind you once again, this is before I even started this YT channel for fun and I barely even know how to do YT. I'll keep saying this and I do apologize, I can't draw as well as Flo or any other talented artists. Through my art while looking back, it looks like I drew a bobblehead figure of Lavender Wings, myself, or any youtuber I drew. I can't draw full body poses. Heck, I can't even draw freaking hands or fingers.
@insamitygacha246810 ай бұрын
@@BigComfyCouchBronyGal To be fair, hands are really hard to draw, lol
@CheetixGlitch10 ай бұрын
I honestly do trace yes but only to get used to drawing. I just find the image on google on a website or smt and I use it. It never says anything about copyright or og artists but whenever I use an art that isn't mine, I just say that the art isn't mine and idk who the og artist is/put the name and link the artist
@CheetixGlitch10 ай бұрын
@insamitygacha2468 Agreed. I'm learning and I use gacha as a base or a pose on ibis or Google. They are so hard.
@charlydance17779 ай бұрын
Flo is the living proof that practicing = improvement
@yourfriendosky10 ай бұрын
I hate the people who trace without credit on purpose they think they can get away with anything
@eggzoticbutters10 ай бұрын
In those videos where she got exposed for tracing, she apologized. However, I’m indeed sure that if Flo did not expose her, she wouldn’t have apologized. Obviously she knows that she had to credit, if she watched the TikTok’s where she traced she saw that they requested for credit. She also stated that she was going to credit, but I checked her videos but she never credited (correct me if I’m wrong). Crazy. Also, off topic from the video and my comment but, your art has gotten so much better, Flo! Keep drawing! :D ❤
@Flotalendy10 ай бұрын
I feel the exact same thing about ghis
@h_editshhh16 күн бұрын
The art in the background is so beautiful and you’re so talented!
@GalaxyTheMarker10 ай бұрын
As someone who uses free props for my videos, i credit every artist for the prop, and i only use the free to use ones. And i sometimes draw my own props. There's a different between tracing and using free to use bases.
@justagrape234310 ай бұрын
Out of context, your art is getting a lot better proud of you 😔💜
@Arikiranix10 ай бұрын
My opinion is tracing is fine for learning or if your art needs guidance, but you ALWAYS need to credit the og artist or don't post it. It's better to not trace if you want to become good at art. Instead do art studies!
@caramel314110 ай бұрын
All the drama aside your so fricking good at drawing omg
@YourfavHina.10 ай бұрын
This makes me very sad because she is my friend..she was the one that made me reach this far..I can't believe it :( thanks for the information Flo
@K1tty_X010 ай бұрын
Why do they never credit? Like it’s not that hard😭😭
@Cawffee710 ай бұрын
Unless they got it from Pinterest where everybody reposts everybody’s art w/o credit, 100% 💀
@MiniEmber10 ай бұрын
@@Cawffee7 Most of the gacha community use art from pinterest and say it's ok because it's there then wonder why the art community dislike the gacha community
@Cawffee710 ай бұрын
@@MiniEmber whenever i get art from pinterest i try to look for a watermark, and most times they don’t have one ☹️
@MiniEmber10 ай бұрын
@@Cawffee7 A lot of people erase them on purpose
@Cawffee710 ай бұрын
@@MiniEmber probably
@xoxo_Chels7 ай бұрын
I love the background arttt 🤩
@BruhOlivia10 ай бұрын
The worst part is that some of the artists don’t want things to be traced, like the “there was a certain man in Russia long ago” (OLD TREND BTW, THE CREATOR OF THE BASE SHOWN IN SHORTS DIDNT WANT IT TO BE USED) so history is basically repeating itself (the trend didn’t die though, ppl are using different bases and (maybe) giving credit.)
@MiniEmber10 ай бұрын
The base use originally was not even a base and was traced From Unknownspy's artwork then uploaded to pinterest as a base. People do this a lot
@BruhOlivia7 ай бұрын
@@MiniEmber yeah 😭😭
@_viaXlove_7 ай бұрын
Reading the pinned comment, and seeing she’s 11/12 makes me feel so bad for the other people in those two specific ages (such as myself) and how 11/12 yr olds are presented as, “emo, cringe, ignorant, irresponsible, etc.” and mostly ignoring the fact there are actual 11/12 yr olds that are way better than what is said across the internet. I hope she makes a well-made and good apology, we need that hope of light right now since there’s been a lot going on.
@insertcringeazzusername10 ай бұрын
Nooo I thought she was good !!Thanks for sharing tho flo,I would not have figured it out ❤
@Jack_The_Baron10 ай бұрын
Imagine stealing a box 😂... Sorry....
@user-ru2nf4wd8w10 ай бұрын
i would to hide myself and hide my birds and hide from duolingo i mean you heard nothing i mean- who would that right
@Rengokuwhatareyoudoing9 ай бұрын
@@user-ru2nf4wd8w Duolingo??? Lol 🤣
@alvoriia10 ай бұрын
We need to spread this !!
@Tummyo10 ай бұрын
I hate it when peoples don’t realise how much hard work the person did to do theses.
@Oceanx_chan10 ай бұрын
I saw the community post already but im still gonna watch
@AlienFriend10 ай бұрын
Me at first: Oh it looks like she might just be using them as a reference. Me literally 1 minute later: *Oh...nevermind then...* (Nah, cause it aint even that hard to draw a box...A BOX.)
@M0N1CA_6710 ай бұрын
Thanks for telling us! there are too many tracers nowadays..
@xxmissthailandxx37804 ай бұрын
Merci beaucoup Flo ! Merci pour informer tout le monde ❤ I'm french too
@Kumo_.10 ай бұрын
Artists can’t catch a break from tracing and stealing these days.. Hopefully, they will own up to their mistakes! It’s so sad to see many artists’ hard work being stolen.
@veirarararastar10 ай бұрын
imagine tracing a….box.😊😊😊
@LizandAiz8 ай бұрын
Your art is so good, especially I struggle with perspective art, lol.
@quanashiab.962010 ай бұрын
At 2:00, a box tho? That's embarrassing, I really hope she stops this crap.
@Banana01110 ай бұрын
Your voice is so calming btw i love your drawing
@Dream_Wgf6 ай бұрын
She traced a *box* .. A BOX- LITTERALLY A BROWN RECTANGLE AND DONE- BUT SHE TRACED IT.. WHAT 😭✋
@r3angs3y739 ай бұрын
All seriousness aside, YOUR ART IMPROVE SMM
@MiniEmber10 ай бұрын
One correction. F2u bases always require credit, they are free to use if you credit the artist and do not remove any watermark on the base (if there is one). Nothing is free to use without credit, that's how f2u bases work.
@im_lhj3 ай бұрын
how does she do this without any shame? definitely unsubbing to her after this. smh. i used to trace when I was a beginner artist and I am rlly ashamed of my actions back then. I wish i could turn back time and fix my mistake of tracing.
@elliescc10 ай бұрын
If she really wanted to trace don’t make it that obvious 💀
@red_star-ys5jg10 ай бұрын
Why do I happen to be subscribed to everyone that does bad things? How does this happen? 😭
@ltsKenzie10 ай бұрын
You always spot the unseen, its really incredible that you have a good eyesight 😵💫
@skom_protagwolftale83096 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh the Clothes at The thumbnail I saw In Instagram, Its so cute! But Again, Its so Recognizable to many Especially Artist That She Took that Clothes from Either insta or Google
@AUCreatoer10 ай бұрын
Wow- th audacity Also your art is so pretty!
@rosiebloomm29499 ай бұрын
And ur art is amazing since u don’t trace & ur very talented 😁
@hearts.4wattson7 ай бұрын
its so good! but girl's worried bout a box ...
@kittisaurus_love9 ай бұрын
OMG i loved the vid where you make the SHAKE IT collab with Mika rou!!! It was so cuteeee❤❤❤ Around last year and older, i loved to trace and just add things extra, only using a base from Google and making the others myself. Now, as i was drawing for fun, i realized my art was starting to look better. I learned not to trace and just draw things myself. Its just because I was not good at art at older days, and i need to trace.
@Naynab.Roblox10 ай бұрын
Oh darling... Out of all things you can trace... You chose... *A box*
@EssiAKAMai10 ай бұрын
Wait, is it okay to use the hands as long as I credit?
@Naynab.Roblox10 ай бұрын
Probably yes, but if the creator says " do not use this! / Blablablabla " then no, as long as you have permission and give credits, I guess you can.
@Moss_200610 ай бұрын
Make sure to credit the actual creator and confirm with them tho
@Callmehlight10 ай бұрын
Yt Remmomended me this video- I'm so glad they did! I never knew the creator of those hand bases and I thought they were free bases since I got it from pinterest, I'm gonna credit the creator right now- since I used it to many times. Thank you for giving this information! :D
@Fairlygaygachakid10 ай бұрын
I am sorry this is off topic your art is getting better every day
@mscircle_hasoreos7 ай бұрын
I believe that most of the time, she’s not even tracing. She just overlayed the other pic and that makes the problem even worse in my opinion.
@Sunnydays497 ай бұрын
How are people that lazy to trace people's art AND not give them any credit? AND think they can get away with it, It's so stupid!
@SCARED_CAT-AHHHHH11 күн бұрын
I use those for reference so i can have a better perspective for drawing clothing but girl- TRACING?!!
@user-bq8lt7sg2k10 ай бұрын
İ really appreciate u for exposing the problematic,tracer or stealer people soo much Flo!As always ty for the info!💙💙 İm really excited to see her reaction to getting exposed too ngl. İll just have my tea and my popcorn(such a combo i know.
@le4h_x7 ай бұрын
Wow- I actually thought she took pride in her work and was actually really proud of her- well, I found out about the hand thing because ive seening everywhere-(encluding cinna's incident) thanks for explaining this ro us!
@Lila-gc4qq10 ай бұрын
Hi Flo, i wanna ask if u can make a rant on this one gacha tuber called Only_Mirii (sister of Only_Mehhh) bc she traced many other artists, even Devil Bona, so if u can make a rant on her, it would be appreciated thank you for reading.
@GlowwingHeart10 ай бұрын
I can't believe I commented on one of her videos,thanks for Making me aware Flo!
@Noomsmoons10 ай бұрын
She should explain herself property after this
@Commraderanrin10 ай бұрын
*properly and yeah, but I bet it’s going to be one of those crappy apologies again (*insert emo sad looking gacha OC standing in rain with rain SFX and proceeds to guilt trip audience*)
@Noomsmoons10 ай бұрын
@@Commraderanrin The slander 💀
@strawberrycutie9 ай бұрын
I will make a post on my channel about this , thank you 🙏 ❤
@ImSillyAs10 ай бұрын
bruh i was sub to her at my alt once :(
@augtism.frobit10 ай бұрын
yeah i was subbed to her already :(
@CrappyDappy10 ай бұрын
Bro she traced the box??? BOXES ARE LIKE GENUINELY NOT HARD TO DRAW LIKE WHAT.
@gwenthegremlin7 ай бұрын
Off topic but, YOUR ART IS LOVELY
@sharminbiswas49007 ай бұрын
But what if they don't know that they are tracing? Because some gachatubers uses ideas from pintrest and also says that those ideas are from "pintrest" without knowing the actual artist of it. Because in pintrest we all know that there ain't any sign of the real artist (not very much).
@JustHanifa10 ай бұрын
A BOX? THAT IS ACTUALLY EMBARRASSING
@right6624 күн бұрын
FR WHO THE HECK WOULD TRACE A LITERALLY BROWN SQUARE TO PLAY
@TTPDTaylorSwift8 ай бұрын
Love this art!
@altedhmarsperez423110 ай бұрын
Alright then Flo and Your Art is Looking Goos Flo
@trixareecubillas206110 ай бұрын
A box? She copied a box? As an artist, my disappointment is immeasurable
@kiwi_studios777810 ай бұрын
Even if she is 11/12, she sould know at the bare minimum that tracing without credit isn't ok. However I will give her the benefit of the doubt since she is still 11/12. (Also the art looks REALLY COOL :D
@Arri3sGummy3 ай бұрын
OMG TYSM FOR TELLING US ABOUT THE HANDS I WAS ABOUT TO USE THEM AND I DIDN’T KNOW 😭 also guess what?! The person on Pinterest I searched up “ free gacha hand trace “ and it came up . They had re named it and put a text on it that said “ free hand trace “
@user-lo1gx1gd7w4 ай бұрын
As an artist: Hm. HM. Not the first time we've seen THAT crap
@Fanny_FromDeathPact10 ай бұрын
It’s not hard to make things yourself, you just got to try and if it goes well it goes well, and if you fail you fail. That’s basically how it works, you shouldn’t trace no matter what. (Unless it’s practice, a base, or you give credit and don’t claim it as yours and don’t steal the whole thing)
@D30D0R4NT9 ай бұрын
Come on guys say it with me now, If it is on the Internet expect it to be, Reused, traced and stolen. If it is a blank base like that, as a b a s e, it is 110% free to use.
@D30D0R4NT9 ай бұрын
Like Yes it May be “wrong” but still expect it to fucking happen. It’s the Internet you have literally control over nobody besides yourself, for example, me, I use bases all the fucking time that’s because they are Bases. In the end result, it doesn’t matter and nothings going to fucking happen because you can’t “get her banned” or whatever you think your end goal is.
@Shimmy-od1gs8 ай бұрын
Agreed
@Aili_Ranaly9 ай бұрын
Where did you get these pictures? (oh and btw your cool and good at exposing people
@Suzuki-rw5pp7 ай бұрын
WHO IS A TRACER AGAIN JOE MAMA?!?
@blueapple527410 ай бұрын
omg this is the 5th rant i saw about a gachatuber/artist today 😭
@P4ggie9 ай бұрын
I will be helping too, I'm currently on her channel
@SunandmoonshowWingsoffirefnaf7 ай бұрын
Don’t worry I’m helping you!
@Nyx_the_silly2 ай бұрын
Phew i was gonna use those hands now ik i will need to credit! :)
@thecraycraycrayon7 ай бұрын
the gacha commuity is just total drama but just to bring it up..i love your art!! its beauiful
@Yui_akio7 ай бұрын
OMG...your my new idol darling 🎀
@imloveeatchicken10 ай бұрын
I just checked her vid and she actually added credits this time
@NyxWasHere__10 ай бұрын
I did use the hands u mentioned in the video early on, i did add the link to the hands since i didn't know the creator of them and i didn't feel confident to draw that day. I saw another person give the link to the hands too. But using them without ANY credit is just sick.
@xoxo.vvivi.9 ай бұрын
why r all of my fav gacha tubers turning out like this?? 😭 beautiful art btw ✨🍓❤
@Officaldva5 ай бұрын
Ok I will try my best not to do mistakes to not get myself in these kinda problems 😭
@HamNCheeseSandwich9 ай бұрын
Whenever I want to draw something I'm not very familiar with, I either use a picture as reference or search the thing and try to craft it by 1-4 looks (If I were to trace I would give credit unless it's just a drawing for myself) I dont even post my art
@taco51295 ай бұрын
This sounds like a news report
@myzttx10 ай бұрын
She also traced art, 1 month ago in her cp the art she made for that girl has inconsistent lining - which is common in tracing And aswell a video she posted on the 5th of June she made a gacha art video which both the art styles are not similar in any way, and also has inconsistent lining, my friend also has seen a peice of art which is similar to the drawing, though he doesnt know where he saw the art and doesnt have a picture of it.
@StarBrush139 ай бұрын
For the first one I remember tracing it but not uploading the art work, so thank lord
@Nayix__n9 ай бұрын
Oh my goodness?!! 😂😂😂 tracing a box?!! BAHAHHA!!!
@JustA_SillyLittleGuy9 ай бұрын
That box better have been the BEST box to put into your gacha edit because who would trace a literal BOX?? 🤨🤨
@Courtneys_LawyerАй бұрын
Who would trace a box they are easy to draw💀
@Ana_kicaj6 ай бұрын
As a fan i can agree bc i saw it for myself
@Zainaluvsyouu10 ай бұрын
Wow even tho i dont trace i really love the hand desighns and been struggling to make hands like these maybe ill use them and credit the owner!
@AayotaribbonheartXD10 ай бұрын
Man... Is there a day where people will NOT have drama for once- LIKE- *Atleast for a week?*
@everyday.shinobu7 ай бұрын
thanks for saying not to use the hand props, cause I found it on Pinterest and thought it was free hand trace 😅