Flowey's Psychologically HORRIFYING Boss Fight

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3 ай бұрын

In this video I will be discussing the boss fight that takes place in the neutral route of Undertale Yellow. I will be discussing the exposition, the ending, and the two phases as I applaud the brilliant craftmanship of this wonderful boss fight.
All art is my own,background, pop ups, everything. All Music along with this is already cited by the name and the creator. Usually I cite the game or original content that the music is from, with some exceptions. If you want to know more about the people make the music, you are free to look into the sources I have provided.
The only music I did not site was Your Best Nightmare from Undertale, composed by Toby fox. I did mention and use "Best Friends Forever" and "Afterlife" which were both composed by the Undertale Yellow developers.

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@BuriedSoil5675 3 ай бұрын

I’m going to say this cause I keep getting comments on it. I made the thumbnail without the “I” because the “I” would not work with the thumbnail idea. There was now way I could fit the I without having it look extremely unsatisfying. If you can do it, congrats I will have KZfaq talk to you to be the Thumbnail fixer.

@ribeysteak 2 ай бұрын

the shade between his eyes is the “I”

@Jayden89117 2 ай бұрын

The real I was the friends we made along the way.

@miro_theburger Ай бұрын

make flowey the i

@sbelza1747 16 күн бұрын

Put an eye instead of i

@UltimaDoombotMK1 3 ай бұрын

As I have said before: Flowey staring at you loses a lot of horror when you wave goofily back at him

@christopherearth9714 3 ай бұрын

[* ...YOU.] "yup, is me!! :D" [* fuck.]

@fedethegreat88 2 ай бұрын

The first time you're praying for nothing bad to happen, the second time you stand there with a cold sweat, just in case, and from the third time on you just stare back out of spite

@Hexagonal865 2 ай бұрын

herro eldritch god! :D

@RandomDude1487 Ай бұрын

“I’m going to torture you for eternity” “Ok!” :D

@planetcheese 3 ай бұрын

I will never forget how immensely unnerved I was the first time I played through this fight, only to see Prunsel, ask "Is that Prunsel?!" and then be marginally less disturbed from that point on. Best fan made representation of Flowey, hands down. I like how it's not stated whether the part where you briefly "escape" from Flowey is from him actually losing sight of you, or if he just wants to showcase how messed up he is, because either one makes the moment impactful in a different way.

@leedlelel2373 3 ай бұрын

i honestly thought it got world-shatteringly worse after mart-prunsel... like sure, it was silly, but after that is when THAT fight happens... i dont know. maybe its just me and playing it at 4am confused af desperately praying to not be set back another traumatic specimen every time i died was just a little too much.

@planetcheese 3 ай бұрын

@@leedlelel2373 Oh don't get me wrong, the fake Martlet part was seriously chilling and that creeped me out a whole lot. The part I'm talking about is the part where, in one of the Specimen segments, Flowey uses a bunch of Prunsels as part of his attacks. It's in the Specimen: Clay part of the fight, specifically.

@leedlelel2373 3 ай бұрын

@@planetcheese OH YEAH the eyeballs i forgot lol i didnt even think of prunsel when i saw them for some reason

@thefroginavase3185 3 ай бұрын

I saw this comment on another UT Yellow video Imagine you are flowey, against all odds this child has managed to keep up with you, and you look up for a second to see how they are possibly keeping up with you, then you stare at god, face to face, in the eyes

@mishagaming1075 2 ай бұрын

and they wave back at you or show you the middle finger 😭

@IDrawSometimes_ 2 ай бұрын

@@mishagaming1075 or you realize they are sharing their experiences through a video

@poisonedmaple6874 Ай бұрын

all he saw was a black screen bc i cover my la[tops camera lens :D

@grigoriyivanov9742 3 ай бұрын

The thumbnail: "Psychological Horror VS Psyloghor Chocalror"

@mishagaming1075 3 ай бұрын

"Graphic design is my passion"

@calebd3947 3 ай бұрын

psychologcal horror

@rush88tw63 3 ай бұрын

@@mishagaming1075 "Look at this drawinng of a salmon" (if you knnow you know)

@benthasome 3 ай бұрын

@@rush88tw63 you know what that means! FISH!

@torixon9902 3 ай бұрын

If you work hard, then you play hard.

@goldenyeetus 3 ай бұрын

this guy seems underrated

@AspectAtoz 3 ай бұрын

Mhm

@Jadeschannel255 3 ай бұрын

Agreed

@Scribboy 3 ай бұрын

Yeah remind me of Pastra

@baconexist 3 ай бұрын

he needs 100k +

@Chonker992 3 ай бұрын

Agreed, very underrated.

@theknightwithabadpictotall7639 3 ай бұрын

One thing you didn't include, not sure if on purpose or not: In the fake out, when "Martlet" goes to hug you there's 1 frame where her face becomes scary

@benjitovvv8899 3 ай бұрын

Most definitely on purpose

@faresalsayed9005 2 ай бұрын

You can’t accidentally mess up sprites like that it’s most definitely intentional

@theknightwithabadpictotall7639 2 ай бұрын

@@faresalsayed9005 I didn't mean the sprite itself, I meant the video not mentioning the sprite

@allorey2506 3 ай бұрын

I screamed once you said “with the release of undertale yellow” And I was so happy. I LOVE the flowey boss fight, it’s literally the end of OMORI as said by shayy

@meeb_consumer 2 ай бұрын

I didn't even play undertale; as a kid, the first time I saw Omega Flowey was on a youtube video of scary boss fights in gaming. It had all the typical stuff, resident evil etc. . But Omega Flowey? The only time something on a screen has caused me a lack of sleep was that time. The dissonance of this horrifying, truly impossible to understand soul-eater that even steals your save file with the uncomfortably liminal-space aura of it all really freaked me out.

@isolatedegg3234 3 ай бұрын

UT:Y did Flowey so good. My favorite Undertale character and they gave him what he deserves. Neutral UT:Y Flowey is honestly my favorite boss I think Ive fought ever. Its so good. Best Friends Forever has one of the hardest starts ive heard

@superstar666.13 3 ай бұрын

The phase that scared me the most was the mechanical face. With some of the games I’ve confused it feels so familiar to them, and out of place for flowey. Organic gives the same vibe, but feels less out of place and less scary for that. Other than those polygonal is the scariest.

@DarkKnight-wh6om 3 ай бұрын

yeah the ending of the netral route is more like a compromise between the player and flowey since no one can beat the other it is left with an unsatisfing end for both.And I love to hate it because all I wanted was to wipe flowey's stupid grin off his face and I coudnt.

@johay899 3 ай бұрын

Vengeance ending

@sleepyllama3673 2 ай бұрын

@@johay899 still don't do it there, he dies laughing at you. The true way to do so is the pacifist ending as Flowey is left unfulfilled

@cn1059 2 ай бұрын

Yo, your profile picture on KZfaq is my profile picture on the Meta Quest😂

@Sandstheskeleton 20 күн бұрын

It’s a way of making the neutral ending still canon, as it technically never happened.

@Mas-cm6cy 3 ай бұрын

Holy shit I was wondering when someone was going to talk about this amazing fight, but it being you was especially a treat!

@BuriedSoil5675 3 ай бұрын

Thank you so much, I have been wanting to cover it for awhile I’m glad I finally got to it and that yall liked it.

@chickennuggetman2593 3 ай бұрын

honey? why is a corpse trying to sell us insurance?

@VeryRGOTI 2 ай бұрын

He's trying to give you life insurance he can't use anymore

@cementcitron9428 3 ай бұрын

I love the ut yellow neutral route, and am a bit mad that everyone that played it is like, Im doing pacifist/genocide, without letting themself playing the game somewhere in between, that are my favorite.

@S1mp1yAnIdiot 3 ай бұрын

DanTDM did but it's only part 1

@isolatedegg3234 3 ай бұрын

I did pacifist first and I honestly wish I did neutral. The pacifist final boss had lost some of its impact because I was thinking it was like Undertale where you have to do a neutral first.

@karenanthony6140 2 ай бұрын

When playing undertale yellow i definitely was not prepared for that ronald mcdonald sounding flower to give me nightmares

@VroomVroomCar221 3 ай бұрын

i am SHOCKED, fym you only have 500-ish subs, i thought you had like 40k+ with this video quality, you GOTTA keep this up man

@InumiDarkness 3 ай бұрын

I'm susprised you either didn't know or just forgot about how he has four other ending dialogues at the end of his fight. The first three dialogues is different comments about you comming back to him (the 4th time being the last time he says something new for beating him another time, staying the same if you beat him more time) but there's a more intersting one: if your FUN value is 70+ he'll have a bit of paranoia from having the feeling of being being watched (by us, the player!) despite being alone in his mind, breaking the fourth wall again. Also implying that he's not completely self-aware yet, but he's starting to be because of us!

@BuriedSoil5675 3 ай бұрын

I knew about it, I just couldn’t really find a way for it to fully work in the script. Along with that I didn’t feel like I had much to talk about other than the fact they existed. But yeah I see your point

@Houndlock643 3 ай бұрын

Flowey has unique lines of dialogue for every time you complete the Neutral Route.

@kitkatiecat 3 ай бұрын

look this video is great but i cannot get over the thumbnail saying PSYLOGHOR CHOCALROR

@BuriedSoil5675 3 ай бұрын

Well congrats Im changing it cause so many people have decided that this exact thing was they should comment. I don’t mind if being a joke, but if you are ignoring the hard work I put into the video because of the thumbnail then don’t comment at all.

@fedethegreat88 2 ай бұрын

@@BuriedSoil5675(Spoiler alert: he did not change it and there's still a missing I) (at least now there are only a few comments mentioning it up above)

@BuriedSoil5675 2 ай бұрын

I decided to not change it cause…I like it…and then I realized I can just delete comments so yippee

@fedethegreat88 2 ай бұрын

@@BuriedSoil5675 👍

@ioneoval7668 2 ай бұрын

@@BuriedSoil5675Just because people joke about something that doesn't have to mean that they ignore your hard work, I mean It can coincide but that doesn't have to be the case. Although I guess it would be kind of annoying and more cause of the repetition so I can understand It to some extend, not completely cause I haven't make a video, so this hasn't happened to me.

@EmeraldEleki7 3 ай бұрын

Why is Specimen: clay's theme so much cooler than the others though?

@zombathinlostleghackercat5233 3 ай бұрын

Oh, I thought this was about Undertale Flowey. I didn't know there were Undertale Yellow spoilers.

@Kappa_Jappa 3 ай бұрын

Keep going man, you’re doing great. Just gotta wait for the KZfaq gods to bless you

@RyuKaguya 2 ай бұрын

he is using the power of your own soul against you....this is the power of just ONE human soul omega flowey is put into a whole different light because of this

@mrmemelol1909 3 ай бұрын

I think the seven repeats thing is supposed to mean to the 7 human souls

@Generic60 3 ай бұрын

WAIT ONLY 72 SUBSCRIBERS WHAT I THOUGHT I WAS WATCHING A VID FROM SOMEONE WITH ATLEAST LIKE 5k SUBS you my friend are extremely underatted

@trentinstudios 3 ай бұрын

10:25 *Not seeing the ACT you need fills you with great despair *HP set to 01 ♥SAVE RETURN

@oceanicartgal 2 ай бұрын

This whole boss fight and segment of the game in general was really REALLY cool. And seeing you talk about it in depth and unpack so many of the details was a treat to watch!! I also think you're underrated and deserve more recognition!

@theballoonfamily9539 27 күн бұрын

15:06 it's basically the 'we have Omega Flowey at home' WITH 'the cooler Daniel' meme, mashed into 1 thing.

@Tacomanyay 3 ай бұрын

You remind me of pastra. I like that 👍

@juanjosevargas2180 Ай бұрын

I love how, from Flowey's perspective, he sees this child that, somehow, it's able to keep up with him, then, stares up and sees basically GOD eye-to-eye. And it's so funny for me, because when i beat him after so many tries i instantly started Fortnite Default Dancing.

@mobgabriel1767 29 күн бұрын

"you are so cringe i'm actually reseting your run" -flowey in the neutral run

@Unk0wn_stalk3r 3 ай бұрын

The fact i didn't really get disturbed by flowey, not even on the first fight, that genuinely hyped me up and when on the first tutorial i just liked the goofy face he had

@Lady_ETHNE 2 ай бұрын

I know someone already said this but seriously this videos gives me strong Pastra vibes and considering he’s one of my favorite Video Essayists on KZfaq, that’s a good thing. Good video! I’d like to add something here that I thought about the fight. I’m not sure if this is just a me thing or if this happened to everyone but I’ll still share with the class: The Neutral route was my first play through of Undertale Yellow and over the course of the game, I became really attached to Clover, moreso than I ever did with Frisk or Kris (I still like them but not as much). From their little reactions to things, to their relationship with Flowey, to their simple but effective characterization, the little cowboy quickly stole my heart, and I just wanted them to get home (even though I knew it wasn’t going to happen). So when the poor kid’s potential mother figure got stabbed, then Clover was murdered on the spot, then seeing how Flowey took their soul to the point where they couldn’t cry even if they wanted, I felt both really sorry for Clover but also really determined to beat the dumb Flower. If Clover was stubborn, then I was gonna be stubborn too. I was determined to beat the fight asap just so the cowboy I’ve come to adore wouldn’t be suffering for as long as they did. Everytime I died and raised back from the dead, I said, “You can do it Clover!” It took me an hour but I did it. And even though it didn’t amount to anything, I still felt happy. So in this fight, more than any other fight in Undertale, Deltarune, or Yellow, I was the most determined to win simply because of my attachment to the protagonist.

@BuriedSoil5675 2 ай бұрын

Mods, bully this guy into reviewing iron lung.

@catbatrat1760 3 ай бұрын

I haven't played Undertale Yellow, so I had to back out of the video a couple minutes in to avoid spoilers, but I do like what I saw so far! Kinda reminds me of Pastra. Subscribed!

@BuriedSoil5675 3 ай бұрын

Thanks. I don’t mind that being the case People don’t want to be spoiled and I understand that. Wish you luck on your playthroigh

@catbatrat1760 3 ай бұрын

@@BuriedSoil5675 yee! >:3 Thank you!

@ioneoval7668 2 ай бұрын

The video is pretty good, thank you.

@marcydarcy37 3 ай бұрын

Your channel gives me very heavy Pastra vibes, do you do the art for your thumbnails and character?

@BuriedSoil5675 3 ай бұрын

I do, All the art for Grayvel, my thumbnails, the gravestones, all the art for it And there is some Pastra inspiration, which I might say in my next video, idk I will have to see if I can ask Pastra on how far I can acknowledge him

@marcydarcy37 3 ай бұрын

@@BuriedSoil5675 your art for the thumbnail is awesome then, can’t wait for more uploads in the future!

@BuriedSoil5675 3 ай бұрын

Thank you

@Starcodewillow 23 күн бұрын

I love how the thumbnail says psychologcal horror

@FireyDeath4 3 ай бұрын

Inverted Fate has more horror moments in the last chapters that are authentic to Flowey/Asriel

@TheFuntimeCrew 3 ай бұрын

I would like o argue that all of Undertale Yellow tackles dissatisfaction and fulfillment. In every route, someone loses, Clover mainly.

@CharaDreemurr_TheyThem 3 ай бұрын

Not exactly imo. In my opinion, it is themed on Justice and Vengeance (idk how to explain the neutral route so ima just explain the pacifist and geno) True pacifist: This route is themed on Justice. At the very end, Clover knows that the monsters deserve justice. They were unfairly trapped Underground and need 7 souls to escape. Clover decides to give up their soul, sacrifice themself, to deliver the justice the monsters deserve, freedom. Flawed pacifist: Same as above, but for different reasons. Clover delivers the justice that Ceroba wanted, justice for her sins against her daughter and husband. She, basically, killed her daughter. Chujin died for their daughter. Chujin died for nothing. Clover also attempts to give justice for the previous 5 humans, who were unfairly killed (I mean, Integrity did deserve it though tbh) by Asgore, although they fail. Genocide: This one is Vengeance. Clover, because of Flowey, knows the monsters unfairly killed the missing humans, so, they decide to get revenge for them. To kill all the monsters. Once Axis talks about killing Integrity, Clover gets so enraged they shoot up to LOVE 19 and are able to absolutely destroy Axis. Clover then kills Flowey for revenge as well. Then, last but not least, they vaporize Asgore for killing the humans and crosses the barrier with them, freeing them at last. This is justice for the humans, but mainly revenge. Excessive violence for their kind. Holy f*ck I'll stop rambling now

@TheFuntimeCrew 3 ай бұрын

@@CharaDreemurr_TheyThem You have a point, and that is the main theme of Undertale Yellow, but the ideas of satisfaction and dissatisfaction are major parts af well.

@CharaDreemurr_TheyThem 3 ай бұрын

@@TheFuntimeCrew I'm trying to think of parts they might be in but I can only really think of the neutral route (or maybe I'm dumb idk) for Flowey (Flowey had dissatisfaction from Clover always just living with Toriel and dying, so he decided to interfere, leading to a bit of satisfaction from watching what they'd do)

@TheFuntimeCrew 3 ай бұрын

@@CharaDreemurr_TheyThem In the pacifist route, flowey remarks that he didn't expect or want you to give up your soul to asgore, but he reluctantly let's you, and in genocide, flowey continuously tells us that he isn't impressed with our mass killing, especially in the Steamworks. I dunno, I just interpreted those parts that way.

@CharaDreemurr_TheyThem 3 ай бұрын

@@TheFuntimeCrew Ohhh yeah I see it, although imo those are two themes more suited for regular Undertale

@namesnotwanted 3 ай бұрын

Yoo!! 300th sub, super underrated man

@learnwithmeh1352 3 ай бұрын

Man great starting music

@user-sf2lb5sz4c 27 күн бұрын

Chara: Oooo i’m a murderous child fear me !1!1!1! Flowey toying with a child in most twisted and sickining ways.

@FangAlt 3 ай бұрын

1:12 aw, so cute!

@josephjasonberbaalcanices5009 3 ай бұрын

theres alot of pastra here, i can smell it

@E3ws3wd3ews 3 ай бұрын

real

@_BobroBartek_ 3 ай бұрын

When meta flowey broked the fourth wall and looked at me than PLSPSLPSLSPSLPSLPS DONTHURTMEDONTHURTMEEEEEEEEE

@fatherflow4030 3 ай бұрын

Hope your channel is successful, Pastra doesn't post nearly enough for my likings.

@springdude1165 3 ай бұрын

PSY LOG HOR CHO CAL ROR

@ackie7459 2 ай бұрын

woahh this guy is crazy underrated

@miniguner 3 ай бұрын

Such a good video I just had to be the 101th subscriber

@pineapple-gw2hh 3 ай бұрын

DUDE 80 SUBS!? ARE YOU KIDDING ME!? GET THIS MAN TO AT LEAST 10K

@hellow8 2 ай бұрын

That was a nightmare to read

@LaurieMurray1344 2 ай бұрын

Making a video on little old me ahh that’s a wonderful idea

@BRACERFENIX 2 ай бұрын

Note to self: Stealing others souls turns you into an Eldritch god.

@Wyattcherico 2 ай бұрын

How to find the absoulute BANGERS in the soundtrack: 1. All of them or 2. Any with a name in caps lock

@gutag-zb9od Ай бұрын

the moment flowey said 'thats a wonderful idea' my computer crashed so i heard 'thats a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa' than my comuter died

@felipemegaleoliveira2434 2 ай бұрын

Normal person reading the thumbnail: psychological horror Me reading the thumbnail: PSY LOG HOR CHO CAL ROR

@hoifzf 6 күн бұрын

That fight made me grund for days took forever was mad creepy

@lastbreadfox2597 2 ай бұрын

Ah yes. Traumatizing a children, Flowey is built for that.

@sonic36741 Ай бұрын

the mountain of smiling floweys

@RandomDude1487 2 ай бұрын

+1 sub, you deserve way more subs

@user-uu7dv6mb3o 2 ай бұрын

when I first played through Undertale, I spared asgore, Flowey appeared, my game crashed and when I loaded it... well yknow. keep in mind I had never seen any mention of Flowey on the internet before, so you can imagine my fear, and how many times I died.

@chancewilliams3391 3 ай бұрын

Psyloghorcho calror is my favorite type of calror

@epicstar86 2 ай бұрын

UNDERRATED AF

@Z3nithGD 18 күн бұрын

I love psychologol horror

@SlashCrash_Studios 2 ай бұрын

16:37 Oh yeah, Prunsel, isn't he great?

@anx4560 3 ай бұрын

don't think i didn't see the typo in the thumbnail "PSYCHO LOG _ CAL HORROR"

@thefroginavase3185 3 ай бұрын

The I is the red line on floweys face

@unoviverseyt 3 ай бұрын

i think theres also a fucked version of ceroba where flowey just kinda rips off her face.

@BuriedSoil5675 3 ай бұрын

Yoink

@TheEyeofStoneandPawer 3 ай бұрын

"Undertale is my favourite gam-" subbed.

@lucasbrown9367 2 ай бұрын

The thumbnail: Psychologcal horror

@Cap.R 3 ай бұрын

Underrated bro

@thefrubblewarrior4678 3 ай бұрын

17:13 DAMN IT! I thought I could escape that game.

@doomlord0773 2 ай бұрын

wambu is that you

@PikaGang 2 ай бұрын

holy fuck i didnt know my volume was that high

@Twisted_Code 2 ай бұрын

would've liked to know before I clicked on the video that this was going to be about Undertale yellow, which I have not yet finished. (TBF, I did not notice the date of upload, which might've otherwise tipped me off I guess)

@BuriedSoil5675 2 ай бұрын

I have gotten this complaint, and I have one thing. Nothing would have changed. If I said “oh spoilers for Undertale yellow” you would have already known that a flowey boss fight was I Undertale yellow. I didn’t suddenly show you the boss fight I stated “Undertale Yellow’s Flowey boss fight” spoilers were not necessary, you would have been spoiled the same way, nothing would have changed.

@Fossilizedsapwithbugsinit1087 3 ай бұрын

How do you have less then 150 subs bro you need WAY MORE

@BuriedSoil5675 3 ай бұрын

Man didn’t this age well lol But still I really appreciate it

@blueslime5787 2 ай бұрын

Wait till he finds out about the lore to the YELLOW Flowey bossfight lol

@Dalas0130 2 ай бұрын

PSYLOGHOR CHOCALROR

@NotYammic 3 ай бұрын

Thumbnail: Psy cho log cal hor ror

@hahahahah45678 3 ай бұрын

broken vessel is a good background song

@MatheoZ14 3 ай бұрын

you forgot the I in the thumbnail

@thefroginavase3185 3 ай бұрын

The I is on floweys face

@LimboLocalFunniProvider 2 ай бұрын

me : *wants to watch video about undertale* the video : *spoils undertale yellow instead* me : :(

@Snt1_ 3 ай бұрын

The missing I on the thumbnail

@user-dn6nu2kr1n 3 ай бұрын

i see you love hallow knight

@xandronius 3 ай бұрын

Wow only 67 subscribers! Let me change that

@youwillseemeanywhere4348 3 ай бұрын

i love psyloghor chocalror games like this one!

@xSkysilver 3 ай бұрын

Flowey was cuphead and said hell yeah

@chancewilliams3391 3 ай бұрын

You only have 243 subscribers!? Damn...

@ed94ro99 3 ай бұрын

you never addreced the PSY LOG HOR CHO CAL 19:52 part of your thumbnail

@Angy_the_cat 3 ай бұрын

,,undertale is my favorite game,, Yea man I used to say the same fing Before I played in OneShot

@BuriedSoil5675 3 ай бұрын

I find it funny on how both only this is wrong cause I didn’t say that You came in here to brag about playing a game I don’t care about

@teamok1025 3 ай бұрын

Oneshot artist try not to make Masterpieces (difficulty impossible):

@spookisweet 2 ай бұрын

psychological horror ❌ psyloghor chocalror ✅

@user-ug1vt2xb5b 2 ай бұрын

bro is fr a pastra-like,

@wenternav33 3 ай бұрын

you remind Me of Pastra

@Crowley_Grimsbane 3 ай бұрын

Psycho Logcal Horror

@TupHart 3 ай бұрын

I love psycologcalhorror

@minimum850 3 ай бұрын

RIR tombstone lmao

@nicktheguy_ 3 ай бұрын

you remind me of pastra

@Eyza_cool101 2 ай бұрын

dude! meta flowey is just omega flowey but better! BTW afterlife is my fav song

@connorschultz380 3 ай бұрын

What do you think of the undertale yellow flowey boss fight?

@connorschultz380 3 ай бұрын

O..oof you ment that one lol

@pyroonbusinesschannel118 3 ай бұрын

you remind me of pastra ngl

@pimpkins0831 3 ай бұрын

agreed lol, the poses of both avatars are rather similar and the way he speaks shows the same amount of passion pastra holds for his topics :0