Și pare să ceară un pilot experimentat! :)

yes I pay them beer money to keep you guys entertained when I waffle on too long about groundhandling ;-)

he's FINE!!

Thank you for an insightful comment on how you have transitioned to a higher B! Cheers.

@Hawksultralight I feel safer through more precise control and handling, but you have to be on the ball as the wing is more likely to misbehave than a low B. Ground handling is key to gaining confidence and control with this wing.

@Gabriel Gutfilen Schlesinger i'm really not qualified to comment on other wings, but I chose the Maestro because of the great quality / innovations in Phi's lower wings (symphonia etc).

I'll do my best to offer some comparisons in my upcoming Mentor 6 review on that step up. 20hrs on Maestro is a bit early for most pilots, I'd suggest this is a 75hours+ sort of wing (a huge generalisation, i know). I'm not sure if its 'safer' than a Mentor 6, it's more 'alive' so you have a different experience of flying. Ion->Mentor is an easier (smaller, less demanding) step. but some pilots need / want / can take bigger steps than others ;-) the right match all depends on the pilot.

You've survived (so far), good for you. Hopefully, your skills will grow faster than your luck running out. For the sake of the sport, I hope others in your shoes will NOT follow your path, but rather listen to Greg, Hannes, or any other responsible instructor and NOT jump on a hot EN-B this early. Yes, I know, you feel more secure due to the crisper handling and you only fly in "kind" conditions. These are textbook fallacies of KZfaq/ forum experts. Learning by doing works for painting, tennis, chess, photographing cats in you living room etc, but NOT when your and others' lives are at stake. Peace

That's very strange, not what we have experienced at all. From extensive testing over many hours in very varied conditions with different kit against many wings, that's not been our experience at all. Quite the opposite, in fact. For example, in Colombia this January over 12 days I flew around 45 hours of pure XC on my MAESTRO 21, and I always felt I had an advantage over other current high B wings - climb rate, glide and speed. There were quite a few other pilots also flying the MAESTRO or MAESTRO X-alps, and some flying the TENOR or TENOR light (which I have also flown extensively). My impression was that these wings are both current at the top of their classes, high B and low/mid B respectively, clearly out-performing most other wings in their classes. I heard other pilots commenting that they had the same impression. Every pilot I spoke to who had a MAESTRO or MAESTRO X-alps was totally in love with it, and very happy indeed about the performance. So sorry but I don't think the pilots you are talking about can blame the wings for any poor performance! 😘

PS. I forgot to mention the key reasons why I chose the MAESTRO as my personal wing: the handling and the feedback! The MAESTRO is exceptionally responsive for the class--more than most wings even in the class above--and is able to out-manoeuvre most other XC wings (assuming all other factors e.g. wing loading, harness etc being equal, of course). The feedback is relatively high for the class--it is certainly not a dampened XC wing--which I like, but will not be to every pilot's taste. Those who prefer a more dampened XC wing will likely prefer something like the Mentor 6 or Rush 5, for example.

@@flybubblecarlo Carlo, interesting . Just came back from our mountains. At our takeoff was today a guy, using since 1 year a tenor, loaded 2 kg below top. I know him good. And a unknown pilot with a Symphonia, same loaded. Phi infection today ?? :-)) When he bought the tenor he was very fastinated. Today, he was testing the air design Vivo and when top landing after 1:10 flighttime, we have been talking exactly about I have held on upon. He is not satiesfied with the climb ability at full load with the tenor in weak conditions. Later the symphonia pilot was coming from the valley , he he also complained about this problem with the A wing. And you rhave the feeling the tenor has a nice agile handling ? I was testing the wing as one of the first, and immediatly have had the feeling, to long brake ways and missing a punch. But , Carlo, the minds are different, some like it, some are not satisfied. For myself , I have been testing the arak last year 10 days at grece and at several xc flights and here, real nice, I gonna wait now for the ion6. New standard announced, not any more a low B, Nova pushed the ION6 in level mid B. Lets see at Stubai, what the I6 will perform :-) cheers from black forest...and by the clouds, I love the bubbling channel at all :-)

@@flybubblecarlo as you know I love my Maestro and it was perfect for Colombia, where it was consistently faster than (and glided just as well as) Deltas, Mantras, XAlps and many other 'higher' wings. However, the only concern I do have is that I wasn't able to maintain in the weak stuff as well as I reckon I could have on my Chili 4. Possibly simply because there is a little less cloth above me? Its my only concern about coming home to the weaker days in Scotland. We'll see.

There are several flying sites shown in this video, all of them within the same freeflight club. For visiting pilot info for this club see www.shgc.org.uk/visitingpilots

@@flybubbleparagliding well time to start then lol

Buy it, I did I love it

no, and not high on our very long list of kit to review, to be honest!

@@flybubblecarlo I just love the colors and that red marque in the middle (I know, not the best criteria for buying a wing, huh)

I fly a crossalps, what do you want to know?

@@E620SE I want to know if it has a competitive sink rate. Also, what do you think of the handling?

@@cluelessbeekeeping1322 yes I think it. You can watch my newest video. I was the only one flying more than a few seconds that day. And there were a few days like this in the past. Sink rate well in my opinion, glide angle more like a average and not better than a new high b wing (the crossalps is almost 6 years old, keep that in mind). It's a light and compact low safe tool with nice handling and it's looking awesome. Brake travel is short and brake force is mid to high.

If you've gotten that impression from this review then I'd say that's quite unfortunate as this is certainly not case! Nowadays I usually fly Sports class wings (e.g. I had many great flights on my old Skywalk CAYENNE5 , love the handling of my Advance Sigma 10, and really enjoyed testing the excellent Gin Bonanza 2 and Triple Seven Queen 2 - awesome Sports wings! I've been testing the Phi MAESTRO (actually I've flown five of them so far - three size M 21, one ML 22 and one L 23) for several hours in a good variety of conditions (from light and scratchy to breezy and sporty) and I have to agree with Ziad Bassil's findings in his review: "... the brake pressure that feels ‘perfect’. Not hard at all, nor too light!" "The response on the brakes are immediate!" "... with a high degree of precision, that is rare to find on a high B glider! Pure pleasure for the pros!!" "The Maestro surges forward in a good climb, without any pitch back at all. I mean it moves forward very quickly in climbing mode and coring the well built thermal. In windy and challenging conditions or facing the valley breeze, the Maestro will deliver good climbing when encountering strong thermals! Those characteristics are rare to be found on a B glider!" "The Maestro is definitely ‘not’ your first B glider. Not even after one small season on your first low B glider… The Maestro has some super fine qualities, and delivers impressive and valuable information for the keen pilot. It takes an experienced pilot to appreciate it, and to use it at its full potential." "Talking for the B category, the Maestro is like a Samurai sword if you know what i mean. It can cut swiftly and cleanly, if you seek it or know how to use it. Pilots flying some C’s and even D’s wanting a great weapon for XC with B certification, will cherish the Maestro feel and qualities. Pilots flying high B gliders for a season, will find in the B certified Maestro, the educative feedback that will allow them to understand and fly later higher rated gliders." "Conclusion: The best impressions you get is immediately after landing. Right? This is one of the few times I enjoy test flying a B glider. It’s not like driving a 8 cylinder family car. It’s like driving an “everyday” Sports car! Comfortable enough but pleasurable to drive." "... the Maestro... responds swiftly and precisely to every input." "The Maestro has a complete package of top overall performance, agile feel of a dynamic but “balanced” high B glider. Flying pleasure awaits you with spices for the refined gastronomist ! :-) For those flying qualities, test flying it is a must." Since I quoted so much from Ziad's review, I'd better be fair to him and link to his full review: bit.ly/2VYn3Ae

now that you put it that way ... lmao2