Very innovative and clever product. Definitely something to consider if sleep/rest is a much higher priority than food/drinks/lounge.

I always envy anyone that can sleep for 8 hours on a flight. I don't think I've ever managed to sleep that long in business class on a flat bed even with a sleeping tablet, let alone an economy class "sky couch".

I flew skycouch in 2023 and really liked it. My only problem was that people try to come and sit in your row after take off. I was lucky as the attendant was in the row behind going through with another customer and told the person that tried to take my seat to go away

Dude, I loved Virgin America! Especially the free booze in premium economy and the variety of snack boxes for sale even on short flights from SFO to SoCal. When Alaska took over, the vibe went from hanging out at your friend’s house with the coolest parents, to going to your other friend’s house where you’re not allowed to use the towels in the bathroom to dry your hands, and the only beverage options was milk or tap water. Oh and yeah, another fun Sunday morning video!

The sky couch works for an adult and small child . Most uncomfortable if 2 adults try to use the skycouch , also if you try to pay for an upgrade to premium economy, you are unable to do so if you pay extra for skycouch . If you pay for economy and wish to upgrade to premium economy, you can. Hope this helps .

Sounds pretty good for someone who is 5 foot 1 like me. I can stretch out fully on 3 seats, and never have problems with leg room.

Hey there! 👋 I absolutely like your video on the flat economy seats on Air New Zealand's 777s from Auckland to San Francisco. It's so cool to see airlines offering more comfortable options for long-haul flights. Keep up the great work, and I can't wait to see more awesome videos from you! 😊I've just subscribed to your channel! 🎉

I flew YVR to AKL & return earlier this year in PE. The seat recline was generous with a foot rest integrated into the leg rest. I slept 6 hours out of 14. The seat pitch exceeds Emirates PE. We booked 10 months in advance, the cost nearly doubled 8 mos later. The service and meal made me feel valued. I think the premium cost relative to their competitors, same routing is warranted. ANZ has a great PE product. Thanks for the honest review.

I've always been very curious about this airline's economy class seat beds & watched quite a few videos on KZfaq, but this one was really detailed & showed how to do it w thorough explanations !! 👍👍💜🥁🐉🎤🎶✈️💞

Thank you for sharing your flight.😊

New travelers have no idea how lucky they have it..when I started my flying career there was no inflight entertainment etc.

Hey Oatrick another great video. Thanks for sharing an interrsting product! Love Sundays, and your vids.

Currently writing this comment on board Starlux buisness class from SFO to TPE and still have 4 hours left of my 13hr flight to Taipei Taiwan definitely the longest flight Ive ever flown

14:50, Wow, Air New Zealand, Boeing 777-300ER's in flight entertainment map is identical to United's in flight entertainment map, but the color is different. How cool is that. Hope to fly Air New Zealand next year.

Thank you for sharing. Just booked it, and we are heading to NZ tomorrow night! Yeah!

Great review. I will be flying air New Zealand skycouch in future. You've convinced me.

Absolutely awesome seat/couch

Kudos to the pilot on that flight - one of the smoothest landings ever, I had to rewind to find the point of touch down on landing.

Great vlog 🙌🏽🛫

16:37 " ... we're just as thirsty ...." good point! funny point to. 😅

The concept is very good and would work well for family travel. However, at 6' 4" the premium economy seat would be a better value for me. At some point during sleep I think that I would extend into the aisle in the "bed" configuration.

Love traveling virtually with you! I'm mostly housebound, and your videos allow me to "escape" my surroundings for a while via different modes of airline travel.

Definitely need to try this out one day! Innovative product!

Nice video mate, it looks like a decent seat!

What an interesting concept. Another great video.

I travel to NZ about once a year or so. Last time I got a skycouch. I’m traveling again in a week and again upgraded to a skycouch. It’s well worth the upgrade! I actually slept well on my last trip. Much cheaper than upgrading to first class and really really worth it.

You used to be able to do something like this on Thai Airways from Bangkok to London in the 90s. The occupancy rate in economy was typically about 30 percent. The divider between seats could be taken out so you could often lie flat across 3 or 4 seats and get a good sleep, all for a standard economy ticket. It’s not easy to find things like this, these days.

Thanks for this video!

September 2024 the planes will be all new or refurbished with new seats and more premium options

Great information

Quiet for take off. Nice video

Nice twist on the age-old armrests-up practice when you've got 3 rows to yourself on a long haul. I've actually taken a shower at AKL as well, but at the Qantas Lounge LOL! The breakfast buffet was interesting...besides the usual they were heavy on the beans and muesli. I didn't mind, I love free food no matter what! - Red

1:49, It looks so cool and it's similar to Sydney's McDonald in the airport.

Yes, how I miss Virgin America! Used to fly Philadelphia to San Francisco weekly and it was wonderful! I was and still am devastated they discontinued service 😢

Excellent review!

I've flown AirNZ in Economy and Business and enjoyed both with excellent service in both classes of service. Premium Economy on AIr NZ back in 2015 and 2017 was much better then Air Canada as you enjoyed a Business Class meal and beverages and entertainment, along with the more comfortable, roomier seat. (on Air Canada you get an economy meal with a bigger seat in Premium Economy last I checked). AirNZ's Business Class back then was much better then Air Canada's Business Class at that time and the added bonus of the foot rest turning into a seat where you could actually enjoy a meal with your partner. I look forward to your video review of Air NZ's "J" Class Cabin.

Air nz usually rate very highly for service which is my experience, always exceptions but I am surprised to hear that’s something you heard. It’s 23kg for checked luggage so that shouldn’t be an issue. Based on some of the ludicrous amounts carted on as carry on I suspect they could be a lot tougher on luggage. The infamous herringbone design is dated (it was next level when introduced) and is being replaced from next year but in its defence the sleep experience is top shelf for a plane and most long haul is overnight. As an aside further amenities (toothbrush, shaving kit) is available from the front counter at air nz lounges. Good watch, thanks.

Great review and very interesting offer, this Skycouch: I did not know it existed, before. But the future should hold exciting new solutions. .

I'm just impressed you're able to sleep for 7 hours on a flight

Nice review.

I flew sky couch on air NZ back in 2015, It was good, my wife and i made it work.

Thanks, great option for sleeping

Did that last year from Singapore with my wife. I must say that for night flights it's better than premium economy.

Sorry but Akl - LAX flights on Air New Zealand have been going for around 40+ years, as the flight from LAX used to terminate at LHR. Nz001 and Nz002, we were able to sell both the London L.A. and the London Auckland services. They stopped the London L.A. just before the pandemic.

"which really ties the room together" Ha!! Am I the only one that thought of the Dude? :)

That business class layout looks identical to the old Virgin Atlantic setup. Reversed herringbone. Might have been revolutionary 20 years back, but by now filed under "what were they smoking" in the annuls of history.

Nice video. Between Premium Economy vs. the Skycouch in Economy, I would choose the latter on a 12 hr. flight. I might even select it over Business if the airline's Business class doesn't have lay flat seats. Thanks for the video.

Very cool product, hadn't heard of it before. Can't imagine going 13 hours in a regular economy seat!!

I'd love to be as articulate as you! Big props!

The lie flat economy bed would be my choice, since I have a difficult time sleeping on fights. I also don't imbibe...so alcoholic beverages are not an enticement for added cost of premium, business or first class.

I think the reason that flying from NZ to Copenhagen goes the other way around is because of Russia. A direct flight would spend quite a bit of time over Russia. A layover in Dubai and a layover in San Francisco are actually A LOT closer to about the same distance than you'd think. (Auckland and Gibraltar are _basically_ antipodes).

Sorry if I missed this point in the video, but what is the price difference with business class and the sofa economy ticket?

Always a good idea to buy a large bottle of water in the terminal as its seems to be a very important thing for you.

Coffin Coach. Gotta love it.

Nice review Pat. How did you cope with flying there and back without laying over? 😮

I’m definitely gonna have to try these seats out! Looks amazing! How much more did it cost over regular economy seats?

Azul Airlines use 4 middle seats for their sky sofa, which gives you more length, but less privacy, obviously.

Neat idea

Another great video Patrick. However, unless I misheard, NZ started flying to the US back in the 1960s with DC8s, I believe.

Sinto falta de São Francisco Thank you for showing the experience on NZ Skycouch. The flight looked packed, how long before departure did you book this Skycouch?

At 6'4'' I'll take that sky couch in an instant. I used to fly from SFO to Singapore nonstop in premium economy, I would have loved a skycouch option there.

Cool vid

You mention about it surely being quicker to fly to Copenhagen by travelling west rather than east via SFO. This isn’t the case as you spend 1hr30 less in the air going via North America. Distance is similar but flying east you go WITH the jet stream rather than against it.

I have been lucky enough on several flights to have a 3-seater to myself, but I can't get any good sleep on it. It's just too short. Sleeping with my legs bent gives me cramps. I have also had the privilege to have a 4-seater to myself. That was excellent. Last time was a Qatar 777 with a 2-4-2 economy class layout. Best flight in a long time. (Except for when Qatar has some "seating issue" as the display said on the boarding pass scanner, and they upgraded me to business class.) 🙂

My wife and I fly from Seattle to Manila about every 1-2 years since I retired except it was 3 years during covid. I am cheap so it is economy for my wife and myself. But three and half years ago it was premium economy on a flight because it was only $50.00 per person from Seattle to Seoul so we went with that upgrade. l wish the prices still that low. So in a couple years we will go again and most likely economy. I am a retired Boeing employee and when I worked I was an interior assembly lead on the Air Zealand 777's. The staff that Air Zealand sent were some of the nicest folks but very strict on what was expected in the interior of the aircraft. I consider their interior one of the best that I ever worked on.

As a Kiwi, Air New Zealand makes me proud. Flying to California in a couple weeks, can't wait!

Speaking from experience, it’s a squeeze with two adults. If we book one, I tend to let my wife lie out, whilst I’ll stretch my legs out where I can find space (I’m such a chivalrous gent 😀). It’s still comfortable, but not lie flat for both. You can ‘spoon’ but inevitably you’ll need to move around in your sleep and, given that there’s very little space either side of you both when lying like that, moving around just wakes you both up. Having used the sky couch solo, however, it’s a real treat. Feels like a little oasis in Economy! Just prepare yourself for jealous stares from your fellow Economy passengers 😁 Cost-wise, for flights we’ve used it on (Auckland - Tokyo, Auckland - LA) the Sky couch seems to work out at roughly twice the cost of a premium economy seat. So as a couple, it’s a toss up as to which features you value more. For a solo traveller, in terms of cost it’s basically like an intermediate class between Premium Economy and Business on Air NZ. I struggle to sleep in the Premium Economy seats, so the Sky Couch does give you that for the money. As with everything, just a question of how you want to spend your money. Am looking forward to trying the Air NZ Skynest when they introduce that. It might be the ideal compromise - as long as it is well ventilated…

I would definitely have the sky Couch as I have a bad knee.

We flew from Brisbane to Aukland in business class and don't understand why you or anyone callis it "infamous"? We found the seats AWESOME and the service UNMATCHED. We are United Polaris (which is also awesome) but we have to say, the service we received on this relatively short flight (3 hours) was incredible! We didn't even know about the sky couch. I think that's a great idea!

Did an American guy just refer to hard candy as lollies? 🤣🤣🤣

I’m going to NZ in 2025 solo, and will be comparing price differences between sky couch and a premium economy seat. Thrilled that Air New Zealand is now offering nonstop service from Chicago. One of the differences to consider is the amount of luggage you are allowed varies between the two classes.

What is the price difference between the economy skycouch and the business class? Great video, LOVE it!❤

Nice

Given the cost, I'd go for the skycouch. I flew business long haul between Canada and the UK and I wasn't impressed with the comfort. Hard to stretch my legs out. The food was good, but that's not my priority when I'm flying. I think the skycouch would be great as you can stretch out and you have room when you're sitting up too. Nobody to disturb or disturb you when the toilet beckons and room to spread out your stuff. Wish other airlines would take it up.

Thanks for sharing. I had never heard of this up option before. For perspective, how tall are you?

I just spent $8200 on Business Class with ANA from JFK to Haneda to Jakarta to Bali - and then to Singapore - on the return trip. I'm really excited. My best Business Class experience was Emirates from JFK to Maldives via DXB and that same trip to Seychelles.

Reminds me of an overnight sleeping berth on a bus. Just less rocky.

Excellent video as usual. Nearly 20K subs ! May I ask what you do for a living that enables you to take all these flights and live your dream?

Great review Patrick as usual - I noticed you eyeing off their business class - trust me when I say - it’s the worst product out there and it’s expensive as well - so I wouldn’t bother - stay with the Skycouch😊

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I think ill take the skycouch over PE. I travelled to SFO from LHR for semi-work purposes and agreed PE, but my flight was empty and I was tempted to go back to economy and nab a free row, shouldve made that call as soon as I got on/after take off instead of trying to get the best of both worlds and have dinner in PE.

Virgin America was the best. Flew 'em a lot out of LAX! Skycouch has always been really appealing from first hearing about it, seems like it's definitely worth the cash. the business class looks like what I just flew on Virgin Atlantic last month in the A333. It was comfortable, but really felt cramped and I'm not claustrophobic, and am a small person in general! I couldn't imagine a normal sized person enjoying it.

Crikey! just realized of a very daft question I popped!

premium economy food is a step above economy for air nz and you get good service... one of my flights where some pax had food left for him, he was given the choice of fresh food from business class... the man chose pancakes for his breakfast.... also ive flown premium economy air nz... and you get ice with your drinks... not in economy

I REALLY miss Virgin America, I used to out of my way to fly them. RIP

And what happens when the folks in the row in front recline their seats?

I wold preferred to pay for premium economy which I think is much more comfortable sleep position. I never reclined my seat to full lie flat position even when I was in business class.

Excellent, im 5ft1.,im in. I never eat on any flight, get upset stomach 😩, so i don't care about the food aspect. I like my SLEEP 😴. 😊😊

I have watched a lot of your videos because I truly do enjoy these types of videos and I love how detailed you get, but most of them have been you flying business or first class, it was only until this video that you’re in economy during the takeoff process there’s a ton of talking by children and I find that hilarious because that was not present in the other videos 😂😂😂

Finally! I askeds 1000s does lying down on an airplane vs sitting easier to deal with turbulance. Not once has given me an answer.

Lobe the viedo😊

I’ve flown internationally in business pods and premium economy multiple times… and I think I’d prefer sky couch due to not having the tray dig into my hips when trying to side sleep, or feel like my feet are constrained in the small foot well (I’m 6’2” and 235 lbs with athletic build so don’t tend to fit nice in really any seat/lie flat bed)

Mmmm we were flying to LAX back in the early 1970s. so prior to your date of 2004-8 years 1996…should be .. 1965 as Air New Zealand is the start year for AKL/LAX flights with DC 8s. Air NZ LAX used to be a stop on the way to London NZ 001. Or Frankfurt NZ 018…. Prior to working with them my earliest LAX flight was in 1974 to LAX then LAX/AKL. In 1977 having done my highest altitude one AKL/SFO on Pan Am B 747 SP (!!!!!) then LAX/AKL on same trip with Air NZ. Fyi. Laurie NZ.

I had no idea there were seats after row 4 🤔

Nice - looked way more comfy than an economy seat for 14 hours... I flew ANZ CHC - AKL - LAX the AKL stretch in Economy on a 747 via Papeete...this looks a decent option but how much is it compared to Business Class? Surely taking 3 x Economy class seats is getting close to J class money? I may have missed it in the vlog - apologies if I did. Ultimately, any flight over 8 hours is painful in Economy these days - the 'pack 'em hgh and sell 'em cheap' mentality lives on. Note: There are business class 'bucket shops' - they sell cheap J class tickects without flexibility - you are totally committed to that flight with no changes allowed, but if that works for you, you can snag serious bargains. Worth an internet search - you dont' need priority status etc, you can just pick up a reasonably priced business class seat. I did this from LHR - SIN - PER - BNE - SIN - LHR - spent about £1500 over economy - for all that flying, lie flat beds, lounge access it was absolutely worth it.

Not being able to stretch out fully is a problem!

I easily fall asleep and stay asleep on a daytime flight but for some reason cannot get to sleep when flying at night.

for my flight down under? does New Zealand use "down under" as a descriptor too? I honestly never stopped to think about that but it does kind of make sense. I just only ever associated it with Australia for some reason.

WOW beds in economy ?!?!?! I almost want to take the flight just to get a good night's sleep!!

Well better than sitting upright, I guess.