I would love to see a tsa friendly Leatherman micra. Maybe swap the knife blade for maybe a package opener or something tsa friendly.
@burrit0_melon3702 жыл бұрын
I suggest modding a Micra, replacing the blade with a can opener or house key, (or something of the sort) , so you don’t have pliers, but have a reliable and sturdy pair of scissors.
@MihaiOlogeanu2 жыл бұрын
After almost 10 flights and security checks in all Europe with the Knipex Cobra XS, the Glasgow airport security took it away from me!😤 Although I tried to convince them that no other airports security checks considered it a forbidden item, they just don't let me pass with it! They almost took my Victorinox Classic but give it back when I told them that's complying their rules printed at the entrance in the security zone! I think they just liked my Knipex and took it!
@rogerhudson973210 ай бұрын
Knipex, they don't like it up 'em.
@kixb46323 жыл бұрын
The dreaded TSA...I've heard horror stories of them confiscating things that pass the guidelines but they fancy the item so they pocket it anyways!
@JonGadget3 жыл бұрын
I think you might have a point - their decision stands.
@rogerhudson97322 жыл бұрын
If you can't think how to attack an air steward with just an ordinary pencil you're not trying very hard. The TSA is a bit pathetic.
@Northanteus2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the person complain about that being done? If it passes guidelines, they must let it through. Rules are set to be followed on BOTH sides. I'd bring a lawsuit against them.
@mndkv27472 жыл бұрын
Not only TSA, happens in other airports as well.
@billjohnson692 жыл бұрын
Every time the TSA decides to take something from me I do my best to break it just to ensure the TSA agent doesn’t get it.
@henryjtodd Жыл бұрын
I take a small zip pouch with some hex bits, a ratcheting bit adapter, a pair of cheapo folding scissors, a bike tire lever, a small bottle opener and an assortment of string, split rings etc. In my experience UK (and various EU) security will confiscate anything they think is a “tool” (lest we dismantle the plane, presumably…) but they don’t look twice at a loose jumble of things that can be combined to become tools 🙂
@sandradeguire299 Жыл бұрын
I think your comment is spot on. Don't bring anything of value (even sentimental) on your trip. Best to go with an assortment and inexpensive tools. I've had items confiscated by the TSA. They follow their rules, not logic.
@bereadyeveryday67643 жыл бұрын
Just an FYI, I've attempted to carry a number of different full size multi-tools in my carry-on; Gerber 600 bladeless and a couple of modified Leathermans. All it takes is one TSA agent to unfold the tool in some way that exceeds the 7 inches and it's their's - even though you can't (usually) use the tool in that configuration (lost the Gerber when the agent pulled out a screwdriver, then folded it into pliers mode, then measured). I've lost all 3 after only a few flights each. I usually carry the Leatherman Style PS nowadays, but I'm testing a Schrade bladeless tool on my next set of flights. It is supposed to be TSA approved, but it has a package opener, so we'll see. Good luck!
@JonGadget3 жыл бұрын
Wow! sounds like you have been through it! Thanks for sharing your experiences. I've lost a few by forgetting I was carrying them!
@bereadyeveryday6764 Жыл бұрын
@@JonGadget Following up. The Schrade is hard to find now, but so far has not been challenged other than a number of blade checks. The Kilamanjaro tool is similar to the Schrade. I think the Style PS is probably still the best option.
@devolution000 Жыл бұрын
Here in New Zealand departure wise, knives and scissors under 6cm are ok. It did also say that officers won't open any pocket knives up, so the body needs to be under 9.5cm (to ensure that the blade would most likely be under 6cm). Love the channel, getting some great ideas!!
@JonGadget Жыл бұрын
Great feedback, thanks for the info
@bicparker12 жыл бұрын
Great video, Jon, I always enjoy your presentations. This is where the Jetsetter, albeit compromised in some respects, tends to check all of the boxes in terms of most flying regulations and laws (which force those compromises in the first place). I have traveled all about the USA without any problems. Most TSA agents readily recognize the Jetsetter, in fact. It also appears to follow UK restrictions (no surprise there). My UK friends said it should be fine, which is good since I will be starting back over there for business and professional travel soon. By the way, I have always used the tweezers in a secondary way as a tiny flat blade screwdriver. Obviously it is not good for prying anything, but it is great for small screw sets.
@edoardocascioli3738 Жыл бұрын
Jet setter would be perfect if also including the nail file and flat hard screwdriver.
@HamidShibataBennett4 ай бұрын
I’d think a Rambler minus the blade would pretty cool for such adventures.
@Ben-Gibbs3 жыл бұрын
Hey there just found the channel and love the videos! Have you heard of keybar ?They make pretty solid key organizers but offer a lot of different options for adding tools along with your keys. I'm sure you could put together a mutlitool with everything you'd want plus theres tons of third party options out there. I travel with a rough rider dog groomer's tool and a Big idea design Titanium Pocket Tool wit the blade removed and then when I land I just pick up a utility blade ASAP
@JonGadget3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for feedback Ben 🙏 I've just checked out the dog groomers tool - interesting option, particularly if you have hair! Good option re Keybar, I like the idea of creating your own mix - and if one doesn't appeal to security you could just remove that one - I will explore what is available. Love all Big Idea Design stuff, not cheap but really well thought out. Good plan to purchase utility blade on arrival if travelling for a while. Some great suggestions Ben - thank you.
@geraldmcmullon24653 жыл бұрын
Looking through some airlines guides they exclude any form of screw driver, scissors, wrench, pliers or nail file and carry on limited to as low as 5kg. For long trips, where you might need both warm weather and chilly night time clothes packing everything in one bag makes it heavy. I went for two convertible back packs. A smaller everyday carry to go with me with the batteries and tech gear and a 35 litre to go cargo for the clothes and pocket tools.
@JonGadget3 жыл бұрын
Like knife laws for different territories these rules vary too. I agree if you need clothes for warmth it is very hard to fly with just hand luggage - unless you wear it all to fly!
@jouwenlee78292 жыл бұрын
It's always passenger's words against the custom officer. Guess who will win at the end? Painful as it is, I check in my multitools as I don't want to risk losing and ruin my trip.
@drplokta Жыл бұрын
@@jouwenlee7829Customs officers aren’t involved in deciding what you can take onto a plane. You’ll only interact with them at your destination when you’re entering the country. Airport security officers are not customs officers.
@theomnipresent13 жыл бұрын
I thought of the Leatherman Micra, though removing the knife is tricky since it doesn't use bolts... Another idea is the Victorinox swisscard, carried without the knife.
@JonGadget3 жыл бұрын
I never thought of the Swiss card - not a bad option. Agree Micro would be really good too and I think you can get a tool for those round serrated bolts. I have another modified LM option in the works which I am going to feature in a video shortly......
@theomnipresent13 жыл бұрын
@@JonGadget Looking forward to what you come up with.
@mickgoodbe2352 жыл бұрын
How about a Swisscard - Nailcare? No knife, handy tweezers, toothpick and scissors - just got one for my wife to EDC - she loves it.
@JonGadget2 жыл бұрын
yes, not a bad option Mick - certainly better than nothing
@sng22253 жыл бұрын
Hi Jon just found your channel and subscribed. Before travel restrictions I travelled sometimes carry on. At one point even scissors weren't allowed. My go to tool is a Niteize cap lifter, prybar, screwdriver and blunt box opener. Anything else I bought on location. I added blunt tipped scissors in my toiletry bag when it became legal. Quite confusing as the rules aren't consistent and changes over time. Thanks for trying anyway.
@JonGadget3 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for your support 👍 My go to pry bar is a Boker version which is pointy so I doubt it would be allowed. Different countries have different rules so really confusing when you factor that in.
@rogerhudson97322 жыл бұрын
At one time they didn't even allow scissors at Gatwick security, though you could go airside and buy a grooming set in Boots there, with scissors. How jobsworthy?
@CTNZ20002 жыл бұрын
Always research the country you are travelling through and the airline you are travelling on, rules can vary and rules can change . In New Zealand as long at the blade is under 6cm it can travel, the problem is a change to the rules that states the overall length can be no longer than 9.5 cm, so even if the blade is compliant, if the overall length is over 9.5 cm, this change has upset many traveler’s who’s multi-tool could previously travel.
@AGDaws Жыл бұрын
I just checked the restrictions in Australia. Scissors with blunt or round ends and blades less than 6cm are okay, but pliers, wrenches and screwdrivers are all prohibited. So that rules out most multi tools in Australia - or any multi tool that actually has useful tools!
@TheStoyanbahchevanov3 жыл бұрын
You've got me thinking now, for modifying a tool(90mm victorinox) for such a purpose. You are correct for the scissors, but you should double check for the country you travel to. I will think about that, and try to convert victorinox. Cheers
@JonGadget3 жыл бұрын
There may be some Country exceptions for all rules and in the end the decision of the person checking always stands even if they are not following their own rules. Victorinox are harder to modify. Would be interested to know how you get on.
@edoardocascioli3738 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jon! Personally, I travel in Europe and UK with my 58 mm Rambler, as from European Commission regulation 1998/2015, which allows knife blades and scissors (from fulcrum) shorter than 6 cm. Dealing with intercontinental flights, why not considering the Victorinox Swisscard Nailcare? Or other Swisscards and possibly leaving at home the knife when in doubt? Congrats for the channel. Ciao! 😉
@proaudiorestore8926 Жыл бұрын
The Leatherman Style PS was such a great tool for traveling. My scissors broke (spring broke) but when I sent it into Leatherman to be repaired or replaced, they gave me a Squirt PS4 instead since the Style has been discontinued. It’s a year later and I’m curious to know how much travel you have done with you modified Leatherman? Was it allowed through?
@billjohnson692 жыл бұрын
3:45 This is what gets you. The TSA leaves the final decision up to their power hungry, minimum wage “officers”. The official policy is that even if it is on their list, the officer can just decide to take it.
@alanc42643 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. I'm also trying to solve this problem for flying to Canada and China from UK. You mentioned China travel and they are pretty strict on wha you can take too. I've taken a pair of tiny folding pliers that are and old Swiss Tool and no longer available. It has 2 screwdrivers for straight and cross head too.
@JonGadget3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for kind comments re the video - no guarantees when going through customs it seems.
@photoboy154 Жыл бұрын
I was going to say the Gerber MP-600 Bladeless is a good option with the grit saw removed… But it still has the pliers. Works for flying in the US but wouldn’t work for your UK limitation with pliers
@jooky53 жыл бұрын
Great mod on your sideclip. Been traveling with the style ps for a while. It’s gets puzzled looks by tsa at times but they’ve always let it through
@JonGadget3 жыл бұрын
Great to know - possibly the best option right now - pliers are technically banned in the UK for hand carry flight but they would have to be very mean to take that off you!
@jooky53 жыл бұрын
@@JonGadget good to know. I didn’t bring it the last time I was in the UK. However, I’d forgotten to put my compact in my checked luggage and had it in my carryon when I flew from London to Greece and it got through! I didn’t know about the 6cm rule and wish they’d adopt that in the US
@JonGadget3 жыл бұрын
@@jooky5 US is more generous with 4" scissor rule apparently!
@mrc2205 Жыл бұрын
Hi John. In Australia you can’t carry any type of knife or tool. So no leatherman or Swiss Army knives. Even the little one with just scissors and a file.
@JonGadget Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know that! 😯
@TsavoTouring2 ай бұрын
What!?! That’s ridiculous. 🤦🏻♂️ have they considered switching to rubber forks as well… or making everyone wear a helmet if they aren’t sitting down. We’re traveling through the Americas and in countries like colombia people in rural areas walk around town with machetes strapped to their belts.
@davidsionnach939410 ай бұрын
I almost had my Victorinox champ confiscated prior to boarding Eurostar at Brussels. It was in my main suitcase (we flew out, but returned by train), but showed up on the x-ray. It was taken away for consideration but eventually allowed. Had it been more of a 'knife' I think it would have been lost.
@matthewstrunk6052 жыл бұрын
Great video and mod with the sidekick. Would a 4 layer 91 mm VIC SAK mod with 1st layer: opening layer + (minus awl) corkscrew back tool, 2nd layer: scissors + hook/nail file back tool, 3rd layer: cyber tool + bit holder, 4th layer LED + magnifying glass break any known or potential UK or EU travel regulations? Keep up the great work. Matt
@TomClark19953 жыл бұрын
In regard with the pliers you may be okay. Spanners are also banned but I recently took one out of the UK for attaching a phone mount to a motorcycle on arrival at my destination. Security did open my bag after x-ray to take a look at the spanner and ask what I needed it for, but had nothing else to say about it and sent me on my way.
@JonGadget3 жыл бұрын
that's good to know Tom 👍
@bananasandbassКүн бұрын
Trying really hard to find a small multi-tool in 2024, most of the cool ones are discontinued...
@Emily_M812 жыл бұрын
I've had two Style PS tools, and on both the scissor spring broke very quickly. The first one, some security agent at SYD wouldn't let me have it, saying it had a knife. I said that's a file, he looked confused for a second and repeated I can't have it. I wasn't going to argue about $20 and left to catch my plane. But yeah, would never recommend the Style PS even if it was legal to fly with in the UK >_> Thanks for sharing!
@robcherry6734 Жыл бұрын
The issue is that the CAA rules make pliers forbidden regardless of size as the rules were lazily written. Have had this discussion many times, but the jobsworths just hide behind the CAA guidance. Maybe it could be amended with a size restriction like there is for scissors.
@vickiignaszak50412 жыл бұрын
I'm flying soon. Personally I don't carry a large multitool in my normal edc because of the weight. In terms of multitools/knives I'm usually carrying a victorinox classic SD, a night ize doohickey+, and some sort of small locking blade like a kershaw shuffle. My plan for my upcoming trip is to take a swisscard with the knife left at home and my doohickey plus. It won't fully make up for not having a knife but it'll at least give me the scissors and I'll have the serrated edge on the doohikey+. I'm a little nervous about the doohickey+ though. Maybe I should take my classic doohickey? Issue there is I'd be losing the Phillips driver. I'm hoping that combination will get the job done without being confiscated.
@pf80314 күн бұрын
I recently purchased a Leatherman wave + and I hope to take it with me on my holiday to Kos, Greece next month. Could I put this in my checked luggage or would I be asking for trouble?
@oliverpolden3 жыл бұрын
I have taken a Style PS through UK borders in hand luggage but it was buried deep in my sponge bag as if they're my nail clippers. I'm surprised that small scissors would be allowed when small pliers aren't but I guess the point is it's a proper "tool".
@JonGadget3 жыл бұрын
It's on my shopping list now 👍
@Emrullah_BASER Жыл бұрын
What about the NexTool Mini Sailor. I'm using it as a key chain.
@hernancoronel3 жыл бұрын
Amazing how a bunch of bureaucrats can limit our choices in a totally discrete way with huge costs that nobody thinks about…
@rogerhudson973210 ай бұрын
Anyone who knows how could be lethal with almost all tools on a Victorinox 'knife ', makes travel rules a bit redundant. I've got a nylon KFS set where the nylon knife is very sharp, also never picked up by the x-ray. It's people that are the danger not what they carry.
@s.fernandes75603 жыл бұрын
I always take my Victorinox card light and leave the " letteropener" knive out, it is always in my wallet
@JonGadget3 жыл бұрын
that is a very goof option 👍
@tilly69733 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a Swiss card “nailcare” in my wallet for flying. It doesn’t have a blade. In its place is a glass nail file.
@JonGadget3 жыл бұрын
@@tilly6973 excellent suggestion 👍
@JonGadget3 жыл бұрын
@@tilly6973 great option 👍
@bajadan27692 жыл бұрын
Video starts at 03:30
@jamesmagalee85052 жыл бұрын
I know you were not a fan of Gerber, but have you seen the MP600 Bladeless? No blade and it does have a saw that can be removed. Weight is around 9oz, may be too heavy for some.
@iamsemjaza7 ай бұрын
Opinion on the Engineer (brand) PH-55 scissors?
@walterrecavarren5120 Жыл бұрын
In Dubai don't permit measure tape.
@irfanahmed9112 Жыл бұрын
Importent topic
@Tonygarry782 жыл бұрын
What about sending it via snail mail to said hotel/freinds place? It seems like a hassle. But so is vacation!
@ShihabdeentheCyclist3 жыл бұрын
Hi I have some collections of swiss army knives and a Leatherman. May I know what's are the restrictions of travel carry in checked luggage
@JonGadget3 жыл бұрын
checked luggage is fine - issue in Europe relates to carrying locking knives and blade over 3" when in the Country - need a valid reason.
@HWGAFoundation2 жыл бұрын
Leatherman tread?
@efradarroyo5879 Жыл бұрын
leatherman tread in conjunction with leatherman Style PS.
@sneakyfildy Жыл бұрын
Just take scissors and bits screwdriver. Separate things will weight much less and will work much better.
@ShihabdeentheCyclist Жыл бұрын
i saw a KZfaq video about challenge with wazoo survival kit showing carry folding ceramic blade their cache belt and their cache ball cap. can it possible?
@rustybarrel516 Жыл бұрын
I would think twice about doing something like that. If you get pulled out for extra screening and they find it, you could be in some trouble. Not hard for them to claim you were purposefully trying to evade detection.
@kirstenanderson17272 жыл бұрын
Check out the kick starter “ Goat tools”
@rustybarrel516 Жыл бұрын
I don’t fly anywhere I can drive in a day if at all possible. If I do fly, I check a bag that includes the things I can’t carry on, like a knife and a multi tool. Even then, I’ll take items that I could bear losing if the bag goes missing or gets ransacked. Air travel used to be somewhat enjoyable. The reactionary and authoritarian bureaucrats have made it a joyless slice of hell.
@stefpix2 жыл бұрын
American laws. You can’t carry any knife. But you can carry multi tools with 4 inch scissors. Once on the plane you can use the screwdriver or another to undo the scissors, and voilà, now you have two 4 inches knives. Genius legislators at work. You have to take your shoes off and take out your laptop, but if you pay a fee and get TSA pre check, then you don’t need to do anything of that.
@NoNo-uy2bq2 жыл бұрын
Shows what they really care about
@davidhoward66773 жыл бұрын
If you think thats bad, you ca't even wear a leatherman tread out of the UK
@JonGadget3 жыл бұрын
That's not great! Have you been stopped?
@davidhoward66773 жыл бұрын
@@JonGadget yes, heading out from Manchester (pre covid) and got stopped with it, was given the option to surrender it, or check it. Had to empty one of the hand luggage bags and put it in there, fortunately it arrived at its destination OK, but never taken it since
@JonGadget3 жыл бұрын
@@davidhoward6677 I don't know what rules that would break - but I guess it's all down to decision of the security person.
@davidhoward66773 жыл бұрын
@@JonGadget the reason given was a bit wooly, in that it was a tool... but if it had a watch face on it would have been fine. There was some look of disappointment when I said I would check it...