Thank you Brian, and yeah, back in the day I had a CP1 (or one? cant' remember exactly, but I THINK it was a Blade ~ 17-18 years ago) but it was SOOOOOOOOOOO hard! Yours would have been a ton harder to learn on.

...oh, yeah, and also you're welcome. We love putting up this content, and so long as people keep coming back, we'll keep putting it out ;)

I have mixed emotions on the subject. One thing I learned is that you can't stop technology. The first thing I did was get an RF simulator around 2003-2004. I did that for one year before I even considered buying a machine. My first machine I built myself, and then it was checked over by an experienced heli guy. I also took paid lessons from him on a buddy box for a summer. He was like, "Are you sure you've never done this before?" At that time I was flying Thunder Tiger, and I had a Raptor 90SE with 9CHP, a YS.91, and a Hatori pipe. I then got an Align 450LP after a long break. Then I got back in with an M2 EVO, and then I just picked up this machine last week. It is odd going from a GY601 to an Align MiniGRS, to OMP's self-stabilization, and now to FW's GPS. The good news is that you can take this off of GPS, and it is quite the machine in 3D mode. I would love to see what this could do in the right hands. For some reason, people have amnesia when it comes to the fact that GPS can be turned off with a switch.

I'm definitely "a plane guy who plays occasionally with Heli's", and I do feel MORE in control on the Spektrum heli's, like the 330S and 230S, but this heli is FUNNNN still... I wonder if the bad habits would be worse for someone with a little less experience???

WestHobbiesRC I can agree with the bad habbits, now with that said you can change the flight controller in the software to work just like a Ikon would, being that when inverted such as down is up and up is down. Factory settings are not that way. So if you want to learn the normal way you can. Now with that said I have major hand injuries a long time ago that made me give up my love of this hobby and now I have bad nerve issues in the other hand but with this hardware this allows me to fly again. I'm not a stick banger I just fly casual flying and enjoy it. All my helicopters have the H1 unit in it, my SAB 570,500,280 Trex 550, 450, Roban 600 Blackhawk, Roban 700 Apache, 600 Funkey Airwolf, 450 size MD500 with a scale 5 blade head, Roban 600 MD500, ETC I only have 14 helicopters in my fleet for now but they will have this unit in it. On a side note I do love your videos on your builds and they taught me some short cut or ideas on my builds.

​@@BrianPhillipsRCBuongiorno ho il modello FW 450 v3 ho calibrato la bussola ma ho notato che l'elicottero non sta fermo si muove sia a destra che a sinistra. A volte si abbassa da solo. Non so da cosa possa dipendere, e risolvere il problema.

Agreed, it's basically a drone but gives you the feel of a heli

yep - 100%

@@BrianPhillipsRC to add to this when you are in the software you can change it to professional and it will make it like and other flight controllers out there.

Thanks!!! Hope you got our message, and glad you're with us Sleepycbr!!!

You're very welcome, and JUST now seeing you're one of our new members!!! Very sorry, but learning the TOOLS to find your comments first here on KZfaq.

So glad you did - what a heli!

FOR SURE ;) But that's also what keeps your blood flowing - if it was too easy, it wouldn't be as crazy fun!

yes, I don't care for the GPS flying mods, IF they don't work, as we've seen back a year or two ago. I DO however think they've moved the technology forward so much that it's actually working well now, BUUUUUT, it's still not like flying a Heli. I admittedly use SAFE when flying heli's and probably will for some time, as I get my legs under me, but for the moment, if they keep improving the technology, and implementation, I'll be the first to support it ;) One issue I've found, and personally experienced, is when things go sideways (literally, and figuratively) the cause of the problem can be VERY hard to find. I think the answer to this is redundancy, and more redundancy. When this is all worked out, there's no doubt, in 10 years we'll be flying around on "drones" and all that Jetson's type science REALITY we're looking forward too!

@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks for the reply Brian, on July 14th. 2023 I received my new Fly Wing 450L V3. Looking forward to flying it soon. Again, thanks for all of your awesome video's, much appreciated.

I have my eyes on the Huey and the Bell!

yeah, we tried a few different orders, and she seemed to work once we got it right ;)

So it IS 6S capable?!??!?! That's CRAZY!!! And, I do think this is the best FW we've seen yet, and does make me want to do the BELL and the HUEY badly ;)

P.S. M4 coming very soon....it'll be our little secret ;)

@@BrianPhillipsRC correct the v3 can take a 6s pack. Keep in mind the Huey and 206 are working backwards. Those are V2.5. They don’t have the GPS which connects to the CCPs BeiDou system. I would highly suggest doing the calibration dance before flying both v2.5 otherwise your going to give your audience quite the video 🤣🤣🤣. The v3 adds this along with a lot of other differences that for some reason FW doesn’t promote.

I agree - thanks!

I think you can get them too - I want one ASAP ;)

LOL - Killer lasers!!! I'll have to tell her that one!

LOL

What is this ec1500?

@@rafaeltorres2886 Eflite EC1500 is a twin motor 1.5m airplane released about three or four years ago, that was discontinued.

I don't know when that's going to happen. Wish I could share, but I don't even know at the moment.

Agreed, that's pricey, but if it makes it quick, would be sweet!

I can't remember, very sorry!

@BrianPhillipsRC I figured it out!! The nut on the bottom actually fits in a groove, I was unaware of. Glad I checked that before my maiden 😅😅

Are you running the batteries from not fully charged? Is your charger broken, battery(ies) bad? If the flight controller is not set right, there might be a way to change the LVC (Low Voltage Cuttoff) in the PC menu...you gotta hook it up to the PC and use their app. I don't generally do it with FlyWing heli's, but thought there was a usb connection on the Flight Controller / ESC combo... Check on that, and change LVC lower ONLY AFTER you've confirmed fully charged battery and/or charger working right.

Thanks, and sorry about that. As I'm getting more skilled in the heli arena, I'm trying to be a bit less far away ;)

Usually these heli's have it if you lose Rx / Tx connection as a "failsafe" condition. I thought this one did too.

@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks brian

@@BrianPhillipsRC Brian on the v3 do you need to do a compass calibration mate

We will, but have a long list of "Second thoughts" to get done, and we TRY not to release "Second Thoughts" while the planes are still on pre-order, so hope this helps Dustin.

(OR just out of stock on back order, which it is now)

Really?!??! That's crazy

@@BrianPhillipsRC Yeah the ESC gets too hot. But I purchased the newer ESC so now it shouldnt be a problem. I recommend you get one if your FW450 doesnt have it I think its the V4 but dont quote me.

I have the one with 3 flywing batteries. I think if you can find a 4s with similar dimensions and weight you’ll be just fine. Always check your CG. I would check RC going, helidirect and aliexpress for parts. Where in Europe are you? I am in USA

You can use whatever lipo you want that will strap into the slide in holder. It's one of the more generic styles we've seen on a heli. Might need to swap out an end or make an adapter for the discharge lead, but as for spare parts, follow our link and check what you can get. If that's a big concern, use that to help guide your decision to buy one. It's not cheap, but boy-o-boy, does she fly nice, and in terrible conditions no less!!! Can't wait to do the BELL and Huey.

@@BrianPhillipsRCI hadn't paid attention to your link, indeed a lot of spare parts ;) thk

You can't figure out WHAT Heli to buy? There's a bunch of amazing choices, just pick one and love it. If you want another later, there will be many to choose from when you're ready.

100% It works really good, but it's not going to "teach" you how to fly, rather build your confidence on the controls, and then when you're ready to go FULL TILT 3D, you can, but it's such a huge leap for the average Joe (which I am)

@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks!

Wish I could say. We didn't have that issue, but not sure what's going on. Can you try from another machine?

Just click here: bprc.me/Flywing_FW450 This will take you to a website to purchase from.

ja, kann man, von mode 1- 4 alles einstellbar

what for?

Why?

The hole allows you to see what the light is doing in the GPS!

It can be seen from behind, but it was pretty BRIGHT for part of the video, so the led was tough to make out. In the sunset flights, it was easy to see.

LOL - Love this heli so far.

if you cant find the parts here in the US there is alternative ways to get them

Brian is becoming the HSN of hobby stuff his descriptions have over 100 links

Jay, it's like that all over the place. Helis, planes, cars, trucks, crawlers, etc. genius marketing on the part of the Chinese. They peruse these KZfaqrs, find out who has the most subscribers and solid communication skills, and then send the product to them with some cash, and this is what we have. The amount saved in advertisement costs is immense.

@@goldenmanuever1176 yea I know the game but this is what gets my goat , for instance take last week I’m try to purchase a speedybee f405 wing flight controller, completely out of stock but you go on KZfaq there’s 30 creators with them . I bet if I went online to try buy new timber be out of stock , but now this week everyone going to be trying to sell helicopters…. Drives me nuts

@@Jay-zc7iq I hear ya and sometimes I wonder if people even enjoy the hobby anymore. I am in the USA but purchased the green, RTF with three batteries like in this video from Ben over at RCGoing in Hong Kong and it arrived perfectly in about 10 days. They have it instock.

@@goldenmanuever1176 yea me too just feels like everyone is selling , not much enjoyable flying, different strokes for different folks hey

How sway

We will!

Not true

I would say its a heli with a gps unit.

When you have to wait to fly for it to find satellites, it's a drone, return to home drone! I love technology, but when your just pushing buttons and it does it all by itself drone, I understand heading hold and gyro stuff on a helicopter but gps why?

@@Tallguysrc A flip of the switch turns this into a 3D monster.

@@Tallguysrc if youre getting technical then everything we fly in RC is a "drone". This is a Heli with a GPS lol. nothing more, nothing less

Bigger than most of our other heli's though.

Don't understand why after watching a 2-hour video, with 17 minutes of begging for support, that Brian doesn't even have the courtesy to answer questions on spare parts. Shill I give you more examples?

It's CRAZY today here too...trees bending all over the place!!!

@@BrianPhillipsRC I’m in the QC

Here's the link: bprc.me/Flywing_FW450

We won't be offended if you don't watch the whole thing. Just take what you need ;)

I think I basically said the same or very similar here in our video. You have to remember not everyone is born knowing how to fly Heli's, and most won't really ever get into flying Heli's 3D...not that they shouldn't, or couldn't, but we believe it's not a skill that most hobbyist's are going to pursue for one reason or another. Same is true for airplanes...most guys are not "hardcore 3D" pilots, even though most could hold a simple prop hang and do some basic aerobatics, with the right plane. It's just about people's desire...and we don't think most people are going to want to go through the time, effort, expense of getting as good as the best 3D Heli pilots. This is not what I want for them, but I DO believe it to be true. This is why we love seeing heli's that are easy to fly. Yeah, you still have to pilot the thing, kinda, but GPS controls DO retard the learning process, and this is a problem for those who WANT to learn to fly RC helis. The moral of the story - I will NOT stop flying heli's because I'm not the best in the world at doing it, as will I NOT stop making videos about my pursuit of personal excellence in a lot of different skills and interests. Our whole channel has been about me learning to fly, while helping others along the way. I basely knew how to fly RC planes when we started this channel...not sure if you knew that, but I was JUST getting started, and now I can fly most planes you put in front of me, and a LOT of helicopters, as well as all kinds of other strange RC skills. I'm still learning, and slowly improving my heli skills, sure, and I'm NOT the best at anything we do on KZfaq. And, I'm not in a huge rush to "get there" with heli's, and don't mean to be a jerk here, but not going to apologize to you or anyone else who would have me do it differently. The PURSUIT of this skill is a lot of the fun. It's not about "getting there" with this hobby...it's about enjoying the process. It's about learning, and improvement. Maybe for YOU, it's about "getting there" - and that's 100% fine, but don't want you to think I will be stopping this, or that, on account of your comment. I love this stuff too much to quit just because there's someone else better at it than me, and P.S. If I were worried about making fun of myself on the internet, I'd be quite an idiot for having this channel - if you can't laugh at yourself, you would have to be quite a prick.

I figured you would say. It’s your business.

I live in a high wind area. 60-70mph on a clear day is not unusual. 15-35 is a gentle day. Without gps you simply will not fly here very often at all. If you don't like it then don't use it. But it's an evil necessity in some geographical locations.