FM23 | HOW TO CREATE A TACTIC | THE 4231 | FOOTBALL MANAGER 2023

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Stinger

Stinger

2 жыл бұрын

The 4231. One of the most used tactics in real world football there is. How can we successfully create versions in Football Manager? It's aggressive, it's attacking here's a guide on building your version.
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@ashn18
@ashn18 2 жыл бұрын
Great video mate! As standard some really good tactical advice and explanation as to why you deicide on player roles, great work mate!
@slapdox7854
@slapdox7854 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Stinger been using your 433 tactic with chelsea and absolutely loving it! Also your tips video on how to lower tempo and stuff to keep players more fresh is the best tips ever! This is my first time playing fm game so very helpful for me really enjoying! Thanks a lot dude. Will try this one too :)
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
Love to hear this dude 👍
@rlatham88
@rlatham88 2 жыл бұрын
Keep these coming, really enjoying them, inspired me to create my own versions! Great work 👍
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rich. Really appreciate that. More on the way 👍
@stephenjackson4359
@stephenjackson4359 2 жыл бұрын
class vid! love this new series tbh!
@marekandersson1131
@marekandersson1131 2 жыл бұрын
Love your job, man, that's excellent content! Keep it up!
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated Marek!
@DosSantos961
@DosSantos961 2 жыл бұрын
Superb videos! Keep going! So much information, love it.
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much man 👍
@_Oilspill_
@_Oilspill_ 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Stinger, thanks.
@siredmunddorrance4350
@siredmunddorrance4350 2 жыл бұрын
You're quickly becoming my go to FM creater! These are great but I need some advice! I'm trying to re-create a Hansi Flick tactic, I've pretty much nailed it but struggling with the double pivot, Kimmich and Thaigo roles. I've tried both in the CM and DM position's, various roles for each, currently using both in the DM role, Kimmich as a DM support with ppms for direct passing, dribble less, and a RGA as the Thaigo role, again ppm for more direct passing (Team passing on slightly shorter). But I'm still not happy, I started with BBM and DLP defend, but wasn't happy with that either! It's also having an effect on the BPD left side (Next to the WB attack Davies role) to on defend, the Alaba role, got a ppm for dribble more on him. Any advise would be really appreciated! I know it's difficult when you don't have all the details so if you do decide to help let me know if you need anything else.
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
Jump in my discord mate
@rawdanage1857
@rawdanage1857 2 жыл бұрын
Like you I don't like playing 4231 but if you have a strong team it's a very good attacking formation, dlp defend box 2 box and am attack is my favourite combo with a winger same side as the dlp. Great series to start fm22 bud 👍
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great combo too that mate
@Daniel-fk9dg
@Daniel-fk9dg 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! You are the best!
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Daniel
@Cam_NBH
@Cam_NBH 2 жыл бұрын
Your vids are great, keep up the good work and thanks
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you buddy
@jb0609
@jb0609 2 жыл бұрын
awesome
@kevinmottram9491
@kevinmottram9491 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that one Stinger, looks good. Not sure my Port Talbot Town side are quite ready for it yet though!
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
Haha maybe not just yet mate
@amoakhi3687
@amoakhi3687 2 жыл бұрын
Great work! I like this series "How to create..." Greetings from Germany 👍
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
Danke Amo 🤘
@harkotunde9811
@harkotunde9811 2 жыл бұрын
thank you.
@dean6576
@dean6576 2 жыл бұрын
532 would be lovely to see. Thanks
@tomaszgrzelak9927
@tomaszgrzelak9927 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
Tomasz thank you so much!
@riko_z9962
@riko_z9962 Жыл бұрын
HI Stinger, new to this channel and I'm loving your content so far Is there any advice to a much more defensive 4231 shape? I know in older FMs gegenpress's the goat, however in FM23, a more fluid, counter attacking tactics have been slightly more powerful, after all, 4231 was created by Jose Mourinho and it was originally a defensive tactic Looking forward to your reply thanks
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD Жыл бұрын
Working on one now buddy. Hopefully have one soon
@markusseidler3979
@markusseidler3979 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Stinger, this series is absolutly fantastic. Thank you!!!
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that Markus!
@FrankieBarbieri
@FrankieBarbieri 2 жыл бұрын
Can you try a 523/532 (ideally defensively solid/counter attacking-focused), always want to use it but can never seem to get it to work
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
On the list 👍
@yondus
@yondus 2 жыл бұрын
Loving these videos, really helpful when starting out a new save. One thing I wanted to ask is when is it ever advisable to use the "No nonsense centre back" option? I don't think I've ever seen it selected.
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I use it quote often. Not just low down either, eg Ruben Dias I'd great at it. Really good for closing games out
@yondus
@yondus 2 жыл бұрын
@@StingerNeilD Ah OK cool, appreciate the reply and the knowledge!
@user-vp5bv5zh1u
@user-vp5bv5zh1u 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, sir! What are some instructions I could use in a similar tactic to have a higher possession of the ball?
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
Lower the tempo, shorting the passing is a good place to start 👍 Add 'take fewer risks' to some players player instructions
@zaink6652
@zaink6652 2 жыл бұрын
Great video mate! Just one question, can we use DLP on support instead of defend? Because I've always liked using a DLP on support so I was wondering if changing the duty from defend to support would have any effect on the tactic
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
Use him however you like buddy
@brianmyers13
@brianmyers13 2 жыл бұрын
Why the emphasis on changing from left to right? Why IF SU on one side and IF AT on the other. I've noticed that in these videos you've mentioned and done that often. Thanks. Great stuff.
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
I just so it for balance of the team mate. It's all player specific, for example if I had 2 pretty average full backs in terms of attacking ability I'd perhaps go both IF on attack. I avoid it where I can though, sometimes having 2 on attack on flanks gets them a little to far away from the midfield
@90VYD
@90VYD 2 жыл бұрын
more expressive will allow the more defensive ones to be more expressive, as well. I wouldn't use that with such aggression in the team roles&duties overall
@stephenjimson7063
@stephenjimson7063 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any vids on what formations/tactics playing away? Im Villa 4231 attacking wide/aggressive and destroy teams at home, unbeaten at home but i struggle away with some defeats/draws but not many away victories.
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
I would simply just back off a little in terms of LOE and possibly def line
@marcocarvalho9997
@marcocarvalho9997 2 жыл бұрын
I have some doubts here.. When we have a wing back in attack, the centre medfielder on this side don't need to be the one that stay in position to cover the wing back? One thing that I do on my 4231 creation, what your opinion to give the wing back in attack to stay wider and the inside forward to stay narrow?
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a good combo
@Mobilz3
@Mobilz3 2 жыл бұрын
After 10 wins in a row, I lost against Sporting Lisbon 3-0, watched this video, smashed Wolfsburg and Vizela in the next 2 games 5-0. Finally my Darwin Nuñez started to banging the net 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
Great news 👍
@zaink6652
@zaink6652 2 жыл бұрын
One last question, what alternatives would be used for the SS? I'd use an AP but Bruno Fernandes is more of an AM because of his high long shot rating so would an AM work or should I retrain him as an AP? Thanks in advance
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, these roles aren't set in stone. Use what suits your players
@Trossardinho
@Trossardinho 2 жыл бұрын
523 ( 3strikers) or 532 up next ?
@zaink6652
@zaink6652 2 жыл бұрын
Something else I'd like to know, is that if I have tackle harder on all opposition players in the OI's, do I have to add the get stuck in team instruction or ask my players to tackle harder individually or will the OI's do that itself? Thanks in advance
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
This I cannot say for sure. I mean it makes no sense to say you could tackle harder + hard tackle PI + get stuck in and that would equal super aggressive tackling. I mean your team would end up in prison right
@zaink6652
@zaink6652 2 жыл бұрын
@@StingerNeilD 😂 you got a point there. Thanks for the clarification
@heroarena4784
@heroarena4784 2 жыл бұрын
Tikikaka 433 what about this tactic? tested Sayed not bad to top club?!
@dan-ry1kr
@dan-ry1kr 2 жыл бұрын
what should you change if you're not at home?
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
You can still use it. But if you're getting put under pressure you could switch the wingbacks to full backs the SS to AMC or IF to IW. See how it plays first though after you've built your tactic
@Rusleladden
@Rusleladden 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a 4222?
@TheManagermaniac1982
@TheManagermaniac1982 2 жыл бұрын
Hallo my friend. What bout player instructions?
@brianmyers13
@brianmyers13 2 жыл бұрын
Am I correct that you cannot take a beta save into the full release?
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
No I'm sure you can mate but I wouldn't recommend it as they'll update things
@Yan-hs8pi
@Yan-hs8pi 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips sir 👍
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
My absolute pleasure
@stefanjonsson699
@stefanjonsson699 2 жыл бұрын
I should like the 4231 but I dont. As a tactic that is. You have a great version. I tend to go 4141 DM Wide instead. Sell of my AMCs. Maybe I should give this one a try? Bologna is the team.
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
You have orsolini yes? He could work well in it. I've also retrained him as a shadow striker before and he was fantastic
@stefanjonsson699
@stefanjonsson699 2 жыл бұрын
@@StingerNeilD Great ! He has work to do!
@heroarena4784
@heroarena4784 2 жыл бұрын
Tnx for Russia Спасибо самая рабочая тактика в 22 контр прессинг 4231.
@thebaron9252
@thebaron9252 2 жыл бұрын
Throwing out a cheeky suggestion for a 3-4-3 cruyff diamond and 4-4-2 diamond double header? Build both and compare them? Although totally understand if you want to stick to one formation per video
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD 2 жыл бұрын
Like it mate, these vids take a while to put together so might be a big ask
@thebaron9252
@thebaron9252 2 жыл бұрын
@@StingerNeilD totally understand. They've been quality though!
@davyprendergast82
@davyprendergast82 2 жыл бұрын
The game has got too convoluted with too many roles and annoying little features IMO, like you can't allow your playmaker to shoot more often, ok so Phil Coutinho was never a playmaker at Liverpool was he? And what even is the difference between a wing back and an attacking full back in reality? Too many choices, and too many illogical things where for example a player is a natural as an attacking full back, a LM and a LW yet somehow is unconvincing or only competent at LWB? It feels like they just rush out a rehashed version every year just before the deadline with new features but plenty of bugs and inefficiencies. I'm really looking forward though to the next level games when we get VR and AR, imagine being manager in VR berating and AI version of Paul Pogba at half time lol
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