The topic you choose is on point. Very good content!

Great video and experiment dude! I personally really like the fact that the M and Lux combo seems to promote photography that isn’t only based on wide aperture bokeh appreciation, however it’s more than capable of producing gorgeous out of focus rendering if need be. At the same time, you get better and faster with each shot. If you want a little more accuracy, stop down the lens a bit. If you want both accuracy and more bokeh, a little more time is needed to get it right. All is based on one’s skill and preference. That’s what makes the rangefinder experience so amazing in my opinion, that it promotes learning. Which, at least for me, outweighs the idea for perfect shots every time, especially when it means most of the work is done by the camera.

Dave, thank-you! Still trying to increase my hit rate with the M11 and various lenses. Thanks for keeping it real. Gives me some hope that I am not a complete numbskull when it comes to manual focus on a rangefinder.

Hi Dave, my hit rate with the 35 Lux 1.4 close focus version is about the same as yours, about 8 out of 10. It’s so fun at 1.4. The focus hit rate with my m10 and 35 Lux at f2+ goes up to even higher. I enjoy the lens character at f4 allot as well. Fun video.

I have a CV 35mm f1.5 so about the same as the Summilux. My hit rate is about 50% when pixel peeping but probably good enough when viewing at normal distance. The lens focuses closer than 0.7m but I don’t think that’s the reason for missing focus. I know that when shooting static objects some people take another shot while bending back/forward very slightly. Have you tried that?

Whn I got my M10 2 years ago I made a 365 project so I used my camera every single day just to learn the focusing system. It was a great experience I can recommend. Last week I left my M10 for a Hassy X1DII, but I really like the rangefinder system and I think, as you mention, that the rangefinder system gives a very organic feel to the photos, pin sharp or just a bit out of focus. .)

Thank you for your honest "confession". I like your videos touching the reality of photography - in contrast to the tuned world of other's who nail focus with the Noctilux almost every time (or do they hammer a nail with their Nocti?). I find the 35mm Summilux comparingly easy to focus wide open at mid distances but it can get very difficult in close to the object or in difficult situations: It can be so hard to focus on eyes with a range finder but it is easy to nail focus on the glasses' frame (straight, contrasty lines). In this cases I do "full body correction", focussing on glasses, leaning slightly forward and done (more often than focussing traditionally - at least). Your pumpkin shots are challenging as well - having repeating lines in the subject, it is easy to align wrong pairs of lines. Luckily the M11 has the function to zoom in in preview with one press of your thumb - that gives - unless not recomposing - an instant feedback on the quality of the shot. And finally - you mentioned it a couple of times - if there is no need to crop, even a semi-sharp image can give a fairly good result.

Hi Dave, thanks for your presentation, but looking to your results I am asking me if a mild camerashake may be the reason for the soft results. The M11 with 60MP is very unforgiving regards mildest movements which results in slightly blurry photos….just some thoughts from my experience…. Best regards from Germany, Ulrich

I have the 35 lux fle and 50 lux asph, and for a while I thought my eyesight was going as i kept on missing focus. Turns out the 50 lux has a cam miscalibration issue…. But even when calibrated right, hitting focus with just the rangefinder is hard. I would rate myself a B- at the moment, but i am sure patience and practice can help.

I've been owning a 50'lux back and forward for 25 years. I too love the rendering and "look", but at the end of the day, as a primarily people shooter, it is just isn't worth it to me at this point. It is not only the out of focus shot, but imagine the amount of missed shots where you didn't even bother pushing the trigger because you know you hadn't focused properly. Sure, use wide angle and zone focus, but then again, what's the point? I moved on.

I have the Leica 50 and 35 1.4 and my hit rate has improved over the years at 1.4 but it’s true that if you recompose focus will probably be off.

Well, owning both the 35 Summilux and 50 Summilux, the 35mm is relatively easy to focus and get sharp at 1.4, the 50 is a different story, especially when doing a portrait. Non-moving objects are not a problem on either.

You know there's a possibility that You didn't missed focus at all but your lens might be having a focus shift issue. You are using the 35mm Sumilux FLE ver 1 right? I also had this issue, the softness shows only when you are focusing more than 3 / 2 meters away with wide open on your lens. I tried 3 summilux black color second hand on my M10-D, and all performed like your lens. In the end I found a silver one that haven't had this issue. The Summilux silver one that I found focuses sharp open wide close or on the far end though it gets a little softer at infinity. I bought the silver one in the end though I really wanted the black one. I might be wrong, but maybe you want to look into this further? PS: the colour is not the source of the quality, of course. If I have to guess it might be because of the time this lens was produced. Again I could be wrong, I'm not a lens expert or anything. Hope this helps.

Having owned both lenses - the 1.4 shot at 2.0 is way sharper than the cron at 2.0.

Which lens is this? The new one? If so I wouldn’t buy it from these photos

If you focus with the rangefinder and then tilt to recompose, your focus point will be out of focus, cause the distance will be different

I would like to see comparison shooting with Visoflex

Suffice to say that it is not so easy accurately focusing an F1.4 lens with an SLR manually, so the answer is yes it is difficult but not impossible. You also have to consider that this lens is usually used in very low light conditions at its widest. Having xaid all this, With a lot of practice and care, you can get good focus.

Thanks for the vid Dave, great experiment and some lovely light with an array of colours. I have the 50mm Summilux and love it. As you say it`s the character of the lens that draws you and not it`s sharpness. I love what the lux does with light and colour and shot as shallow as possible most of the time. This is my second venture into the Leica M system, the first time round I was working professionally and doing a lot of social documentary work, weddings etc all with that natural reportage look and I found it hard using the m9 with a 50 lux and a 28 cron so I sold it on. Now I have retired I have treated myself to a M9 ( NEW SENSOR ) with a 50 lux and a Q. I am loving get back into Leica, they are beautiful cameras and lenses that give you the ability to really appreciate the creative control of photography.

whats the video camera setup you are using?

If you like lens character...You should try the steel rim 35mm summilux!! :-)

Shooting kids running around with M - I shoot my ‘cron stopped down with zone focus.

The M is a bitch 😉 I’ve been using Ms for my personal work for over 40 years. My hitrate with the M is actually higher than with my A1. Simply because AF doesn’t know you intentions. My advice to M novices is that you practice a lot. On the couch, at the kitchen table…wherever. Use f1.4 only when you need it. Otherwise f4 is a much better starting point. And …practice…

Well-done! Thanks for creating this presentation. I have not been particularly concerned about “hit rate,” with Leica gear, since adding the M system, with an M10 and Summilux-M 50mm ASPH, in early 2018. I understand that I am learning, and that skill requires time and effort to build. I also understand that there is acceptable focus, and then there is perfect focus. The character of a lens matters, too. I can always, if I am expected to “perform,” use a sports/action-oriented Nikkor AF-S lens on a Nikon D5 or D850. 😉 Using a 35mm f/1.4 lens enables a better hit rate than with 50mm. My favorite individual M-mount lens may be my Summilux 50mm ASPH, but, I shoot far more Leica images with 35mm lenses, either the “modern” Zeiss Distagon 35mm f/1.4 ZM, or, for “character,” the Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 Steel Rim “Re-Edition.” Not that shooting wide-open is always best-suited to the task, anyway. When photographing my young, active grandsons, a best practice can be to use a stopped-down Elmarit-M 28mm f/2.8, mine being Version III, for much classic Walter Mandler character, using the distance and DOF scales on the lens, rather than the rangefinder, to achieve focus. (I do not mean using “hyperfocal,” for every shot, but actively moving the focusing tab, as needed, between MFD, and about 12 to 15 feet, largely by feel, rather than looking at the lens.)

To be fair, most of those are soft due to Summilux' "character".