Focusrite Control Step-by-Step Setup Guide - ADAT, SPDIF, & iPad Control
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Күн бұрынGet more out of the advanced features on your Scarlett, Clarett, or Clarett+ audio interface with Focusrite Control. This is part 2 of my step-by-step guide explaining how to use the advanced capabilities of your interface such as ADAT, SPDIF, multiple monitor mixes, and remote control using iPad. I used a Scarlett 8i6, 18i20, and Clarett+ 8Pre to make this tutorial.
This tutorial includes full walk throughs of:
- clocking and synchronization
- stand alone modes
- monitor mixes
- advanced audio routing
- digital IO modes including ADAT, dual ADAT, and SPDIF
- monitor alt control
- talkback
- loopback
- zero latency processing with outboard gear
- using an iPad as a wireless Focusrite Control surface
After watching this guide you will be able to configure and use the advanced features of your Scarlett, Clarett, or Clarett+ audio interface.
If you haven't seen it yet be sure to check out part 1, my Focusrite Control step-by-step guide linked below.
Thanks for checking out guide to advanced features using Focusrite Control!
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🎞Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction and Tutorial Explanation
00:55 Setting up Stand Alone Modes - Preamp and DAC
03:18 Clock Sources and Synchronization
04:48 Digital IO Modes
06:31 Monitor Selection and Switching Modes
07:59 Talkback Built-in on the Scarlett 18i20 3rd Gen
08:28 Setup and Configure ADAT Lightpipe
15:55 Setup and Configure SPDIF
18:55 Setup and Configure Loopback
21:33 Setup Zero Latency Outboard Processing Inserts
24:44 Using your iPad as a Wireless Focusrite Control Surface
27:19 Final Thoughts on Focusrite Control
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@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
*** My Brand New Loopback Setup Guide is now live! I've tried my best to answer your loopback questions! Watch it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qMCoftyInZ6ugHk.html Thanks for watching!
@raycuellar1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos. You are one of the few that really knows what he’s taking about and provides information that I find useful. I had always been a bit confused why one would choose one device as a master clock over another until watching this video. Cheers!
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated and I'm glad to help out!
@AlexValliMusic 11 ай бұрын
Got a new sub! :) I literally just emailed my Sweetwater guy to ask about this exact thing right before I found this video! Thanks! I'm actually looking to get the Red 16 Line and I still want to use my Scarlett at the same time and I wasn't sure how to do it, this video was exactly what I needed. Thank you!
@askdrtk 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic! Red line is nice gear... I'm beginning a "large" channel count upgrade (dreading rewiring my patch bays) and my 18i20 will be staying in the rack too... Cheers!
@UsernameInvalid48 9 ай бұрын
You are doing God's work sir. Thank you so much.
@manuelmarino56 Жыл бұрын
Wowww this is awesome teaching it is stunning how many things we can do with this gears.. Thank you for the time and effort you put into this contents it’s great.. 😊👍
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
Thanks you! My pleasure as always.
@DiegoMartinez-wt9cu Жыл бұрын
your video helps me a lot! thanks for sharing the knowledge ! good vibes from Mex
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad I could help!
@brendamnfine 2 жыл бұрын
This was great, thanks. Looking forward to some in depth ideas on how to use the loopback functions on my 18i20.
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks - glad you enjoyed it! FC opens up so many possibilities that often go unused...
@brendamnfine 2 жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk I feel the next step in development would be to add some simple reverb and compression options pre-DAW... If only to put a singer in the right mood!
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
It is interesting that Focusrite hasn't gone with onboard digital / analogue processing (other than Air mode) as many others have. With computers getting so fast and round trip latencies getting under 2ms, I am watching to see which way things go. As latency / computer load has long been a compelling reason for onboard processing, if that issue goes away there can be far more flexibility using plugins for monitoring in DAWs (not to mention cost savings). With my Scarletts and Clarett+ when I need some "mood" for a vocalist, I mix in my Behringer FX2000 using Focusrite control for their headphone mix, but record the unprocessed audio in my DAW. A plugin or switch would be alot faster, but again I'm interested in seeing how things progress on the latency / need for DSP front...
@Henrikvikinghartfeldtjohansson Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated and I’m happy to help out!
@nathanielweise9932 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done 👍
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated - Glad you enjoyed it!
@KelsterVonShredster 2 ай бұрын
whoa, lots of info but still useful thanks
@ToddsAntiqueapparatus 5 ай бұрын
New to all of this, and have most of your two videos on the scarlett. I have been away for many years and used to analog hookups. I purchased this and an audio technica microphone. With the idea of using this for talking when sharing some of my old 78 and radio transcriptions. I down loaded and registered everything, but when I open the control center on my desk top with the microphone connected nothing shows. Might you have time to assist and the best way to hook up everything and doing what you are doing? Thanks so very much. Todd
@spikeafrican8797 2 жыл бұрын
That save me alot of pain. Thanks so much!
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated and glad to help out!
@GabrielByrd 3 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for this video! This was super useful to help me to me understand better about my Scarlett + Clarett OctoPre connections But I'm still confused about one thing though... Allow me to provide some context on my setup: I currently utilize both my Scarlett 18i20 and Clarett OctoPre for in/out expansion, and I aim to incorporate a stereo compressor as a hardware insert along with the Clarett OctoPre. My primary objective is to plug it in the INSERTS, giving me more flexibility when switching from the Outboard Compressor to normal inputs on the Clarett OctoPre - I use Pro Tools. I've grasped the process for achieving this with the Scarlett-routing from Out 5-6 to the compressor and back to In 5-6. This ensures that Pro Tools recognizes it as an I/O insert. However, I'm puzzled about obtaining an output from the Clarett, given its ADAT Digital interface as it have physical cable connection to the compressor, but only ADAT Initially, I considered routing Out 5-6 from the Scarlett to the INSERTS 5-6 on the Clarett. However, I'm concerned that the interaction between Focusrite Control ADAT and Pro Tools I/O may complicate matters, as PRO TOOLS requires identical I/O settings (5-6) Can you confirm if my assumption is correct? Despite my confusion, I've observed many users successfully integrate Pro Tools, hardware, and the Clarett, leading me to believe that a solution must exist. Apologies for the convoluted explanation, and I appreciate any assistance you can offer. Apologies if I'm over complicating things, as I'm a noob in routing, patch bay etcs. Thank you
@CCPTheCase 2 жыл бұрын
This was everything in one 👌
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help out! I have found FC very useful as my recording / mixing setups continue to evolve and the iPad / iPhone wireless remote control have been a game changer.
@CCPTheCase 2 жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk I’m coming from a hybrid set up with a StudioLive 32S into a completely in the box 5.1 surround sound set up and this was the key to my configuration
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your rig. A 5.1 setup is really nice to have. I share a hybrid setup in my recording and mixing space, but I am in the box at home in my YT space. I like both for different reasons. I checked out your videos by the way, great stuff! I like your mixes and it sounds like some nice automation going on... Keep making music - anyone reading this should check out Case Da Kid's music!
@CCPTheCase 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏾
@Chevin_music Жыл бұрын
I was tearing my hair out trying to get my outboards to work, kept getting locked into a feedback loop???? Your videos explaining the Focusrite setup solved my problems …. Thanks 😊
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
Great to hear...I'm glad I could help out!
@ALINAsmusic 2 жыл бұрын
hey there, thank you for such a detailed video! I learned a lot about routing but still feel like I have a lot to figure out. I was hoping you could help me find a solution for streaming and recording with OBS with my setup. I'm using a PC, a scarlett 6i6, ableton live, and I don't have a board. I'd like to create a mix that goes in my ear with a metronome, and a mix that goes to the listener. It seems like there are easy solutions for mac users but not so much for PC.
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
Hello and thanks! You can set this up by doing the following: Step 1 - In Ableton ensure your have extra outputs enabled in the audio preferences. Step 2 - Also in Ableton, open the I/O section and change the routing for the "Cue Out" to output 3 or 3/4 on the Scarlett. Step 3- Using a TRS patch cable, connect output 3 to input 3 on the back of your Scarlett (you can also do this with output 4/input 4). Step 4 - In the output routing section in Focusrite Control for output 1/2 ensure the levels for inputs 3 and 4 are all the way down (muted) and that Software/DAW Playback in at unity gain. Step 5 - In the output routing section in Focusrite Control for output 3/4 ensure the levels for inputs 3/4 and Software/DAW playback are all set to unity gain. With this configuration, you will hear the metronome and Ableton audio through your headphones plugged into the second headphone output on the front of your 6i6 and audio from Ableton without the metronome will be sent to your speakers on outputs 1/2 and headphone output 1. Hope this helps out!
@andyrowe Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for an excellent pair of tutorials. I was hoping you would cover routing to get DAW Playback into say Zoom or Skype. I am a voice talent and often do directed sessions via zoom or skype. At the moment whilst they can here the studio mic, I cant work out how to route DAW playback so they can listen back to the take. I may have missed it in the tutorials. Your advice would be fantastic thanks
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to help out! Great question and I will have a short specific tutorial for using Focusrite Control (FC) to manage audio in Zoom etc. coming soon, but here is a head start... I choose an output in FC to be my "Zoom" audio. I then configure the inputs (including DAW playback) that I want to use with video calls to playback through the output I chose for calls. Then comes the part that is not quite as intuitive. Outputs cannot be selected as "microphones" with Zoom or other apps. The solution is to connect a TRS patch cable between the output your chose for calls and an input you will use as your "Zoom microphone." After adjusting the mix levels to your liking, you would now select the input you patched into with the TRS cable in your voice call app and you are ready to go! If you need to adjust the mix levels while on a call, I recommend setting up the Ipad control as I demonstrated and keeping it open during your call (you could also use FC on your computer if you have enough screen real estate). Hope this helps out!
@andyrowe Жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk Thank you so much I will work through the steps and look forward to the video!
@johndurstfamilynyc 6 ай бұрын
I am using a Adat as additional inputs, going to a focusrite 18i20. I'm getting input from the adat into channels 9-17. I have the Gain Knobs on the Focusrite to control the Gain on channels 1-8. How would I control the Gain on the Adat though?
@enrifretless 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great video, very informative and helpful, btw I have an old Scarlett 18i8 1st gen (still working fine), and I'm thinking on upgrading with a 8i6 or 18i8 3rd gen, but wanted to take advantage of the old unit mic pres (1-4) using SPDIF (not ADAT because I see the 18i8 has only Optical Input, no Output), do you have any recommendation on how to implement this in the better way possible to maximize Inputs, and maybe outputs (for multiple monitor sets)? Thanks again!
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated. It is a great idea to use your existing 4 preamps with your new interface. The 18i8 1st gen will remember the configuration you setup in Mix Control so it can be used as a stand alone preamp (no PC connection required). You can use the SPDIF out to route 2 channels (2 of your preamps) to your new interface and while you could route the other 2 preamps through your monitor outputs, this would mean you get 4 preamps but no additional monitor capabilities. In this configuration, your 1st gen also become the master clock sending the signal to your new interface by SPDIF. This means you won't be able to change the clock setting in Focusrite Control for you new interface. You could use a second SPDIF cable from the out on your new interface to the in on your 1st gen to setup the new interface as the master clock, but there can be mixed results with this approach. Another option is to use the headphone outputs to route your 4 preamps. On your 1st gen, route preamps 1/2 to outputs 3/4 (headphone 1) and preamps 3/4 to outputs 5/6 (headphone 2). You would then use dual mono to stereo patch cables to connect the headphone outputs on your 1st gen to analogue inputs on your new interface. While this uses up line inputs on your new interface, it solves the clock issue I mentioned above. There is no issue with using headphone outputs on the 1st get as line outs as the voltage output it well within the safety range for analogue inputs. I could go into the reasons / calculations for this, but here is a great article from Sweetwater that explains why this is ok www.sweetwater.com/insync/headphone-outputs-used-line-outputs-for-line-level-gear/ . With this option you could run an SPDIF from your new interface out to the input on your 1st gen and setup the 1st gen to send SPDIF in to outputs 1/2 with the new interface as the clock master and the 1st gen as the slave. Now you have all 4 preamps and an additional set of monitor outputs. To maximize IO for preamps and allow for a second set of monitors, you could route preamps 1/2 to SPDIF out, preamps 3/4 to outputs 3/4, and SPDIF in to outputs 1/2 on your 1st gen using Mix Control (again the 1st gen will be the clock slave). You would then have your 1st gen preamps 1/2 on SPDIF on your new interface, with preamps 3/4 from your 1st gen to two line inputs on your new interface, and a second set of monitor outputs from SPDIF on your new interface being routed to the monitor outputs on your 1st gen. This approach maximizes IO on both devices. Sorry about the long response, but I wanted to provide the options + pro and cons of each setup. Hope this helps out and let me know if you have further questions. Thanks again for checking out my tutorial!
@enrifretless 2 жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk Wow, great comprehensive response, I appreciate very much the different options provided in detail, and as a matter of fact, after I sent the comment/question I started designing a setup, and I think it is very similar, if not same, to your maximized option, like this: 18i8 1st Gen (SPDIF slave , and standalone mode) 1) XLR preamp In 1&2 -> SPDIF Out 7&8 2) XLR preamp In 3&4 -> Monitor Out 1&2 (from the back using TS patch cables, right? ) 3) HP 2 Out 5&6 -> SPDIF In 9&10 (so the HP02 could be used as a 3rd HP out, not sure if I would be able to control volume on the old scarlett HP02, do you know?) 8i6 3rd Gen (Internal-master) * SPDIF In (7&8) from 1) * Line In 5&6 from 2) using TS patch cables, right? * SPDIF Out 5&6 from 3) So the new Scarlett using SPDIF In&Out, and a couple of Line level Ins, but now having 4 extra XLR preamps, and 1 extra (3rd) HP Output from the old 18i8, right? And something similar if I get the 18i8 3rd Gen or even the 18i20 (getting greedy hehehe) Thanks again for all the detailed information Subscribed and looking forward for your following videos 🙂
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure to help out. It sounds like you have a good plan. My recommendations though would be to use outputs 3 and 4 instead of 1 and 2 on your 1st gen. That way you can use both headphones and a second set of monitors from the SPDIF in. Also, use TRS cables from the 1st gen outputs to the new interface as both the inputs and outputs are balanced connections that will help prevent interference. When choosing a new interface, I like to plan ahead. More IO is great for preamps, but also potential outboard effects and monitoring in the future... Let me know how things go.
@AleSuggests Ай бұрын
What version of Focusrite Control are you using? On my version (3.18) the Output Routings view are limited to 8 channels per time
@MarcoSoccol 2 жыл бұрын
Super clear! Thank you for the video! Just one question: in a 18i20+octopre setup used as standalone mixer/monitoring system, are there any latency problems (due to ADA conversions) routing inputs of one device into outputs of the other one? Thanks again!
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and great question! There will always be some latency, but there are no issues with that setup. Even with all channels fully utilized, latency is well below 1ms and not perceptible. For comparison, standing 30 feet from a stage monitor or guitar cabinet results in more latency. I have used this and other ADAT/SPDIF setups for tracking with multiple headphone monitor mixes + live performance without issue.
@MarcoSoccol 2 жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk Thank you very much!
@Robinbermann 2 ай бұрын
How did you connect the iPad to the 18i20? it seems the whole tab is missing from the software now. Even the help article 404s now. Did they cut that feature?
@Talentocubano Жыл бұрын
thank you for your help i am doing setup to connect the epson ls 12000 projector coming from HDMI Audio Extractor 4K 120Hz 8K 7.1/5.1/2.1ch EDID Switch Atmos VRR CEC- SPDIF 5.1CH Optical Toslink - to the Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 USB Audio Interface so i can use RCF SUB 708-AS II Active Subwoofer 2 of them and 5 speakers . thank you for your help.
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
Glad to help out! Sounds like a nice system you are setting up.
@Talentocubano Жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk I will next week it is a big set up just just using two subs and 5 speakers for now let you know how it goes. Thank you for your response.
@hummer222 Жыл бұрын
This is very helpful thank you. You show the analogue out options through preamps as standalone, but how do I set up the routing in Focusrite Control for ADAT optical 8 channel connections to my DAW digitally? The Control app layout is somewhat confusing in that there are drop down menus under the Output section to add hardware inputs but then also to the right column further options to add inputs and monitoring. My idea is to send guitar preamps and also send / receive via DAW to outboard compressors and FX via the Behringer ADA8000 AD/DA converter connected to my Clarett 8pre (TB) with x2 ADAT cables (in and out).
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
The main purpose for Focusrite Control is to configure what analog, ADAT, and SPDIF inputs (and computer playback) is sent to each output on your 8pre. With the ADA8000, you are connecting 8 additional analog inputs and outputs to the ADAT IO on your 8pre which will then be available in your DAW as ADAT channel out 1-8 and ADAT in 1-8. Depending on which DAW you are using, you may need to setup the ADAT channels in the IO settings, but other than that no configuration is needed in Focusrite Control unless you want to monitor any of your ADAT inputs directly through the 8pre's outputs. Also note that some DAWs will show your ADAT 1 inputs 1-8 as input channels 13-20 and ADAT 1 outputs as output channels 13-20 (assuming 44.1 or 48kHz). I hope this helps out!
@hummer222 Жыл бұрын
Thanks that puts things in better perspective. I've always thought that Focusrite Control has to be somehow routed for each different setup but just discovered that the ADAT is routed automatically in my case to Logic Pro - just need to change the wordclock source settings etc. From what I understand the app is mainly for custom monitoring setups. I got crazy loud feedback loops in the beginning but just need to understand the app layout and signal flow better.
@calebvillalongo8342 Ай бұрын
I’m having issues connecting my 18i20 (3rd) with SPDIF to my 8i6, I really need those two extra inputs but I can’t seem to make it work! I want the 18i20 to be my main interface so that I can have 10 analog inputs, how can I do this?
@Twelve50TV 8 ай бұрын
Hey man ! how would we get phantom power working on one channel for our vocal booth but use the rest of the the 7 analog ins for synths and guitars etc ? could i have a simple preamp that provides phantom power to the mic ? Cheers
@askdrtk 8 ай бұрын
Hey, sorry I took a while to get back to you. You could use a dedicated preamp for the booth (and there are advantages), but if you want to use one channel from an 18i20 or an 8Pre, a phantom power supply like the Xvive P1, I use it regularly and it is a great option. You would connect it inline to the mic (usually near the interface for convenience) to provide power only to the booth mic. It is clean and transparent plus has very long battery life (you can also leave it plugged in). Hope this helps out!
@Twelve50TV 8 ай бұрын
@@askdrtk Thanks allot man ! appreciate the info
@pavel-g 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tutorial! I have watched part 1 and 2 multiple times. As you have said, the headphones output should have been on same output as main monitors. I have set up my scarlett 4i4 with external reverb unit on 3+4 i/o as described in your video. It works great, but there is no way to use headphones with this setup because outputs 3+4 is busy. This is inconvenient, a specially if you have kids and you want to work late at night. Also, it requires to switch between different presets.. 1st world problem I guess :)
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help out! This is where headphones being tied to anything other than the main monitor mix can be an issue. If you don't see a need for an interface with additional IO in the future, one solution may be to pick up an inexpensive mixer like the Behringer Q502 (about $50usd). You could connect the 4i4 monitor outputs 1+2 to the line inputs on the Q502 and you will then have both monitor and headphone outputs with independent level controls. This way, the Q502 will work as a monitor / headphone controller, but at a far lower cost...
@pavel-g 2 жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk great tip, thank you.
@nolarocks 11 ай бұрын
Why not just plug your headphones into Headphone Output 1 and turn your external speakers down? Monitor Controllers work great too and could do what I described and add a few more handy features. I am using an old Behringer XENYX Control 2 USB. Works great and I can still use both Headphone Outputs on my 18i20. Further, the XENYX has two additional Headphone Outputs.
@skadb Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video ...I am still in elementary school on these terms that are in this world. So ... I have 2 new 18i20's ...need to link them together ...how is this done? I am yes I am very new to this world. My initial set up of one 18i20 with my IMac was a breeze. Maybe you can point me to an educational video or a part of yours that would be very relative to this process to access to all 16 tracks. I have heard that spidif or the optical are both options ...to use both in and out and perhaps even get 4 headphone monitor mixes ...thanks. ...any help will due. I am just getting ready to pick up the optical or spdif cables so I can move forward.
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the new 18i20's, you have a lot of IO to work with! The basic set requires using one as master (connected to your computer by usb) and the other as slave (connected to the master via ADAT and SPDIF). To do this you first need to connect only the slave to your computer and open Focusrite Control. In FC you will then setup the analog inputs 1-8 to be the only inputs routed to the ADAT outputs 1-8. You then setup the analog outputs to use only inputs from ADAT inputs 1-8 and SPDIF input 1-2. I would setup ADAT 1-8 to Outputs 1-8 and SPDIF inputs 1-2 to outputs 9 and 10, but the order is up to you. I go through this configuration in this video starting at 10:20 and ending around 14:22. After this is complete and before you disconnect the slave, configure the sample rate to what you want to use (I recommend 48kHz), the clock source to ADAT, and the digital IO to SPDIF RCA. Once the slave is configured in FC, it can be disconnected from your computer. You would then connect the master to your computer and connect the ADAT and SPDIF cables between the master and slave. Note that you need ADAT cables for both the inputs and outputs on both 18i20's but only need the SPDIF out from the master to the SPDIF in on the slave since the 18i20 only has 8 analog input but has 10 analog outputs. If you want to use the SPDIF out from the slave, you could connect it to another DAC - note that in this case use would need to configure the SPDIF output for the slave using FC for whichever ADAT or SPDIF inputs you want set over SPDIF out from the slave (they will be duplicates of 2 of the other analog outputs). The SPDIF input on the master could be used for another preamp that has a SPDIF output. Now that the master is connected to your computer by usb, you will again open Focusrite Control to configure the ADAT and SPDIF outputs. First set the sample rate to the same as you did for the slave (again, I recommend 48kHz), the set the clock source to internal, and then set the digital Io mode to SPDIF RCA. Now, for each ADAT and SPDIF output, configure the outputs to use only specific inputs from the Playback (DAW) options. I would suggest ADAT 1.1-1.2 to be 11-12, ADAT 1.3-1.4 to be 13-14, ADAT 1.5-1.6 to be 15-16, ADAT 1.7-1.8 to be 17-18, and SPDIF to be 19-20. There is no need to configure the ADAT or SPDIF inputs as these will automatically be available in your DAW. Once this setup is complete you will have access to all of the analog inputs and outputs on both the master and slave from your DAW. You will have 16 analog channels in, 20 analog channels out, and 2 SPDIF channels in (for use with a future digital preamp, etc) all available in your DAW. Direct monitor mixes from the inputs on both the master and slave can now be configured using the mixer in FC for any of the analog or ADAT outputs. I know this was lengthy, but I hope it helps out!
@methinksp Жыл бұрын
Hi! I am looking to inout audio deembedded from HDMI via optical cable (that's what my HDMI switch does - deembeds to a regular optical cable). Should I be able to input this into my Focusrite 18i8 3rd gen? I have tried various configs and failed. My understanding is that the audio output is optical SPDIF (not sure here) and in the Focusrite control I should set the spdif setting to optical. This does nothing regardless of the clock setting, all the SPDIF and ADAT inputs show no signal.
@pepperjackshack2439 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they had mix tabs you could select for outputs like the old program. Otherwise it’s great
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
Yes...loved those tabs in MixControl... It's been a while so I have gotten used to the FC layout.
@pipposound 2 ай бұрын
I tried connecting Scarlett 18i20 FIRST generation to the latest Clarett+ 8pre via ADAT. It appears first generation will not show up... am I correct in saying you accept connect first generation Scarlett to the Clarett+ 8pre?
@uptownphotography Жыл бұрын
Great info and well explained video. I am considering buying 4 Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 3rd Gen 18-In 20-Out models. I want to be able to play 32 channels of an analog signal (coming from my DAW) into my Allen Heath 32 TRS balanced line inputs. (So I can mix old school with my vintage outboard gear) It seems I would need 4 of the Scarlet units to achieve 32 channels of balanced analog as 3 Scarlet units only get me to 30 TRS line outputs to run into the Allen Heath... Would you know of a better way to do this that might use less interface units and be more cost effective? Thanks for your time in advance and again well explained video. Phil NYC / Jersey Shore Area
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
Hi Phil, Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed my video. Great project to setup 32 channels on the AH. To setup 32x32 the Scarlett 18i20 is not going to be the way to go. Scarlett interfaces will not work as aggregate devices on either Windows or Mac, so you can only use one connected to the computer at a time. At best, you use one as the master and then slave another to it using ADAT which will give you 16x16 analog. I am going to recommend picking up a MOTU 16A. I have used a lot of MOTU gear including the 16A, 828es, etc. and the build quality and conversion is very good. The 16A will give you 16x16 TRS ins/outs and 16 ADAT ins/outs. For the 16 ADAT, you could go with a pair of Behringer ADA8200 8-channel units (they are better than their price would suggest). This will give you 32x32 overall for a price of around $1955 from Sweetwater (cheaper than 4 Scarlett 18i20s). The only thing is that the ADA8200 have TRS ins but only XLR outs, so you will need a 16 channel XLR/TRS snake. If you don't mind going a bit up in cost, a great combination would be a MOTU 16A with a Ferrofish Pulse 16. This will give you 32x32 TRS ins/outs with excellent reliability, conversion, and easy connectivity/setup. This combo is about $2600 from Sweetwater, but with only one interface / driver to setup in your DAW and for the performance / quality, you would not be thinking about upgrades. Both of these options provide outstanding 32x32 performance at a great price point. The 16A works with both USB and Thunderbolt, so you have options down the road and will get pro quality conversion for all the AH analog goodness... Hope this helps out!
@uptownphotography Жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk Hi Todd. Thanks for the super detailed reply! Note: I thought I replied already, but must have not hit send, so hope you don't get this message twice. My scenario is I bought a Presonus StudioLive 32S Digital mixer last year thinking I could use it as a control surface for Studio One and also as an interface. I thought I would take the analog outs of the Presonus into my Allen Heath. What I didn't realize (unfortunately) is I can only send 16 outs of the Presonus at one time. *The control surface aspect of the mixer is great w/32 faders, but I do find the mixer complicated to use with all the layers and not intuitive, unfortunately. So now my plan is to use the mixer only as a control surface and do the mixdowns on the AH. Hence, looking for a cost effective way to get me 32 balanced outs from an interface setup. Note: I don't really need 32 analog inputs at one time and could get by with only 8 to 12 (prefer 12) as long as I can get the 32 outputs for mixdown from the DAW. ^The Presonus Quantum 48/48 would have been a great choice, except it only used Thunderbolt, which I don't have on my Laptop). It's now out of production also. Thanks again for your very detailed reply. Appreciated. Phil NYC / Jersey Shore Area
@director2bob Жыл бұрын
This was an excellent video. Thanks so much. I am a tad confused about one thing. I have an older Clarrette 8pre that is maxed out. I need 8 more channels. Do I need a Scarlette 1820 or a Clarette OctoPre 8 which sends ADAT to the Clarette? Thanks
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it! You can use either an OctoPre or an interface such as the 18i20. If you go the 18i20 route, you need to temporarily disconnect the Clarett 8pre and connect the 18i20 by usb to your computer so you can set it up in stand alone mode using Focusrite Control. This routes analog inputs to ADAT outputs and ADAT inputs to analog outputs. You also need to set the clock source to ADAT and set the sample rate to whatever you are using on the Clarette 8pre. You then disconnect the 18i20 from usb, reconnect the Clarett 8Pre, and connect your ADAT cables between the Clarett and 18i20. The most common reason for going this route it that the 18i20 is at a lower price compared to the Octopre, but you sacrifice the convenience of the Octopre front panel sync and sample rate controls. If you go the Octopre route, you connect your ADAT cables between the Clarett 8pre and the Octopre, select sync as ADAT, and set the sample rate of the Octopre to match your Clarett 8pre, all on the front panel controls of the Octopre. Note that you can use either the Clarett+ Octopre (Clarett Octopre if you can find one used) or the Scarlett Octopre Dynamic. There are two Scarlett Octopre's, the standard one is mic preamps only where are the "Dynamic" is similar to the Clarett Octopre as it has both 8 mic pres and 8 analog outs. I hope this helps out!
@director2bob Жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk my man…..thanks for such a detailed reply. That was very helpful. Do you know if I get the extra headroom, dynamics range etc if I use the Octopre 8 + and go into an older Clarett 8 pre? I am tempted to sell my Clarett 8 pre and buy a used Clarett + 8 pre and octopre +. Looking at about an extra $500 versus regular versions. Tough decision. Any advice surely appreciated. Just hate to buy the Octopre + if it’s not fully utilized with my current converter.
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
I have some good news for you Bob! If you go with the Clarett+ Octopre, the analog input preamps and analog outputs on the Octopre go through the onboard converters, so you get the extra dynamic range (and you can hear it - I use a Clarett+ for tracking drums). The output converted to digital in the Octopre then passes through the interface (Clarett 8 Pre in your case) via ADAT without change. Of course the analog inputs and outputs on your Clarett 8 Pre will still be converted internally at the original dynamic range. This is a good upgrade path. You could start with the Clarett+ Octopre and then upgrade your Clarett 8 Pre to a + later, or all at the same time...ahh, gear "escalation." The Clarett+ preamps and converters are a significant step up from the Scarlett (not to say great recordings can't be made on the Scarletts - the gen 3's in particular are far better than they get credit for), but the Clarett+ are sitting quietly in the shadow of Red, with converters easily capable of living in pro studios. If the numbers make sense, the Clarett+ 8pre and Clarett+ Octopre are 16 channels in and out of studio quality sound...
@pepperjackshack2439 2 жыл бұрын
Ya that iPad app makes this compete with 2500$ level gear. Hopefully the app isn’t to buggy. Hope to have 4 app connections at the same time. I use the Adat to pipe 2 stereo mixes to a second standalone unit and get 4 headphone mixes now
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
FC + the app really does level up the whole Scarlett / Clarett experience. It's like getting a free multi-headphone mix system all included. I'm amazed Focusrite doesn't do more to promote these capabilities... I find the app really stable on both iPad and iPhone (I regularly use it with an 8th gen iPad and IPhone XR, 11, and 12). It doesn't seem to matter how many I have running (tried up to 4 - stable, no control latency/sync issues), but I have solid wifi and my system is running with a 5900X, so plenty of power to run everything.
@gerardlake 2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the vid so much info.Do you think FCR Clarette 8 pre converters are good compared to Orion by Antelope or even Apogee ensemble .
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed my FC digital guide. Converters are a matter of constant debate. I will start by saying that imo converters have become so good in the past 5-8 years, unless you have a mastering setup it is hard to see alot of benefit in high priced units. That said, I have both a Clarett + 8 pre and a Motu 828es in my studio space. The 828es uses the Sabre 32 ultra DAC which is generally well regarded. What many don't know is that Focusrite greatly improved the converters in the Clarret + interfaces (due to a chip shortage). The Clarett + uses a Cirrus Logic C-5381 for AD and a Cirrus Logic C-43198 for DA. To my ears, through a pair of Genelec 8040s, a difference cannot be heard between the Clarett + 8pre and 828es. Perhaps if I had a set of ATCs I would hear something, but that is really reaching for something... In terms of dynamic range (and there is more to converters than only dynamic range) DA for the Ensemble is 123dB, Orion 3rd gen is 120dB, the 828es is 123dB, and the new Cirrus 43198s in the Clarett + 8 pre is 130dB. Yes, 130dB... For AD conversion, the Ensemble is 119dB, Orion is 121dB, the 828es spec is difficult to come by as Motu only provides "DAC" dynamic range, and the Clarett + is 120dB. I'm not trying to say that the Clarett + is superior, or in fact any of these converters are superior, but what I would say is that to my ears, through my Genelec 8040s (decent imo), I would be hard pressed to find any difference to justify price differences based solely on conversion. Of course some of these interfaces have other features which could justify the cost (especially if you like DSP which is a whole other conversation in 2022). If you aren't worried about DSP (I am not with the minimal latency and computer power to handle plugins I have) the Clarett + is an exceptional value imo with its new upgraded converters that have been flying under the radar. Hope this helps out!
@gerardlake 2 жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk Thanks!! but i have Clarette 8 pre orginal usb c not the + so i hv it clocked to an Apogee Rosetta 200 for priniting tracks . i do hear an audible diffrerence using it like this,but i'm still experimenting.
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, got it. In that case you will likely see a reduction in transient response (maybe 5%). I've found that staging your gain in this scenario can make a difference. I would try experimenting with both pre and post hardware insert gain balanced with varying the gain on the Clarett to find the sweet spot where you get the most transient response. There can often be an extra 1-3dB of dynamic range across the entire usable input / output gain from many converters depending where your gain is coming into the chain. Usually you get the most range when you fall just short of clipping the converters with less input gain and more post gain. I tried this with a Scarlett 2nd gen and ended up with about an extra 1.5dB before we switched to the Clarett + for additional IO (plus the preamps are pretty nice).
@jmproductions59 Жыл бұрын
Hi Todd. Great, very informative instructions. Thank you so much for your kind helpful efforts. A quick question... ****** I already use the 18i20's ADAT to get an extra 8 inputs using a Behringer ADA800. If I do this, does it mean one can't use the SPDIF IN RCA input on the 18i20 - to get an extra two input channels? (I think you said this.) I am trying to use an Avencure A-D audio converter (RCA stereo source to Figital coaxial outputs) to feed my Yamaha Modx analog outs to a new track input on the 18i20. Thanks again.:-) Peter 😏
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, glad to help out as always… Yes you can use the additional two channels of input from the SPDIF input. (I assume you are using a sample rate of 48KHz as you have 8 ADAT inputs from the AD8000). Using a AD converter is a great way to take advantage of the extra channels. Cheers!
@jmproductions59 Жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk Thanks Todd. I tried but no luck as yet (confused by the appropriate Focusrite Control app setup) but I will study your videos more closely. Cheers from Australia mate :-)
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
Hmm, the inputs should be available as ASIO inputs 11 and 12 in your DAW without setting anything up in FC and then setup FC to monitor the SPDIF inputs to whichever outputs you want to use. If all this looks good and you still are not getting sound, chances are it is a clock issue. Since the SPDIF connection from your AD converter is one way (the converters sends its clock out), you will need to set the 18i20's clock source to SPDIF so 18i20 can sync up with the AD converter. Hopefully this will get things going.
@jmproductions59 Жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk Brilliant Todd. I will try this out when I get a chance. You are such a kind person, thanks again 👏
@YBBTassir16 2 жыл бұрын
Do you work with studio one 5? If so is there a way I can contact you because I had a Focusrite solo but I upgraded to the 8i6. However I’m trying to hook up the 8i6 to studio one 5 but it only shows the option to choose the Focusrite solo. How do I fix this
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
I do work with studio one 5. In my case, the audio device shows as Focusrite USB and all of my IO is available. When I unplug one interface and then plug the other in (8i6, 18i20, clarett+ 8pre) studio one gives me all the channels available on the interface, but the device is always called Focusrite USB. It is possible to get studio one to rebuild its setting including audio setup. To do this, go to the settings folder (you can access it from the help menu. Then exit studio one. In the settings folder find the "Studio One" .SETTINGS file. Some say to delete it, but i prefer to rename it to "Studio One OLD" just in case I want to go back. Now reopen studio one and it should rebuild settings and allow you to go through the setup process for you 8i6. Hope this helps out. I have setup a new DIscord server for regular chat, questions, sharing, etc within the community. It will take a while to get membership going, but that is an easy way to contact me. Here is an invite: discord.gg/EMq3YVp97u
@Mav3ricK21- 3 ай бұрын
Could you please help me setup the ADAT on a Focusrite 18i8 1st gen? It only has Input for optical and I am trying to add inputs from a UMC1820. It recognizes the signal but no the sound. This focusrite control is not available for 1st gen Focusrite :( . Please help
@EL_N0IR_2201 Жыл бұрын
My question is do you need a 18i20 too take advantage off all the routing (outs&ins) right? You can’t route 8 channels with a 4i4. Im on windows 10 pc.
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
You can route channels with the 4i4 and will be able to mix hardware and PC inputs to the four outputs and loopback, including headphones. Each interface model does have limits on the number of channels you can mix (4i4 has 4 in, 4 out, plus the 2 channel loopback) simultaneously to each output, and the 4i4 does not have digital IO, so you will not see those options.
@ivanvelez7668 Жыл бұрын
hi there pal, Happy New Year to you and all the best in 2023. Been awhile since we last wrote each other. I have a question about the scarlett 18i20 interface. I just recently bought a sampler the sonicware sampltrek. it has ins and out ports as well as midi in and out ports too. I want to record a sample from computer which is a mac into the sampltrek via itunes on my mac. How should I make the cable connections properly from the scarlett to the sampltrek so i can record the sample from my mac into the sampltrek?
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
Hello! Happy New Year and best wishes in 2023 to you as well! For the connections I would go with any open pair of outs on the 18i20 and connect to the two inputs on the sampltrek. You could then go into Focusrite Control and setup your system playback 1/2 to output to whichever outputs you connected to the sample track. This will allow you to record directly from itunes playback with the sampltrek providing audio sync. You would then edit your sample in the sampltrek as usual. That is the simplest way to get it done. You could also take advantage of syncing up start/stop and tempo via midi. Since itunes does not support this you would need to use your DAW. To this, make the connections the same way between the 18i20 and sampltrek, but no need to route output in Focusrite Control. You would then record the sample from itunes into your DAW using the loopback input from your 18i20 making sure you have tempo setup the same as you . You then need a midi out from your sampltrek to midi in on the 18i20 and midi out from the 18i20 to midi in on the sampltrek. Once you configure the sampltrek as a midi controller in your DAW you will be able to start/stop DAW playback when you that record on the sampltrek. Tempo will also stay in sync this way. Hope these two options give you a starting point!
@ivanvelez7668 Жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk thank you so much. I had missed your reply and just saw this. my apologies, but thank you again.
@ctoms2034 8 ай бұрын
Hi Todd Not sure if I missed it, if you’ve used all the analog inputs, and simply wanted to add one more input (for example an aux input from my computer to play spotify - i use the 18i20 for live mix with powered speakers). I’ve tried a aux to optical set up but cant seem to get the optical to give an output back into the mix…. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
@askdrtk 8 ай бұрын
Most 2 channel aux to optical converters I have seen use SPDIF as opposed to ADAT. You can set the Digital IO Mode in Focusrite Control to Optical SPDIF. This configures the optical input and output 2 as SPDIF instead of ADAT. Optical input and output 1 remain as ADAT in this configuration. Setting the Digital IO mode to Optical SPDIF and connecting your aux to optical converter to the optical input port 2, you should have two channel audio inputs on channels 11-12. Hope this helps out!
@ctoms2034 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Todd
@paulchisholm66 Жыл бұрын
Can I take the a TOSLINK Optical Fiber cable from my TV and plug it into the back of my Focusrite 18i20 3rd Generation in order to get the audio from my television? Thank you for your assistance with this matter.
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
Yes you can. Connect the optical out from your TV to the first optical in on your 18i20. Then in Focusrite Control, set Digital IO mode to S/PDIF Optical, Clock Source to S/PDIF, and the Sample Rate to 48kHz. This will allow you to send two-channel stereo audio from you TV to your Scarlett. S/PDIF over optical is limited to two channels and surround sound over optical from TVs is not sent in ADAT format, so surround sound formats cannot be sent to the 18i20 (TV optical surround requires AC3, DTS, etc decoding). Hope this helps out!
@paulchisholm66 Жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk Thank you so much!!!!! I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question.
@ChickenPermissionOG Жыл бұрын
Im not getting any sound from s/pdiff from hdmi extractor
@seanmorton1517 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Clarett+2 pre. The headphones are playing mono. How do I get them to playback stereo? Thank you!
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
The Clarett +2 has very good sound quality, nice choice. The headphone output matches the configuration for outputs 3/4. To ensure these are setup for stereo, open Focusrite Control and select the output 3/4 settings. Ensure "stereo" is selected and the Software DAW Playback fader is at unity gain. Your headphones should now playback your computer audio in stereo. Hope this helps out!
@SheldonTam 2 жыл бұрын
7:59 Wondering how do I route the Talkback signal out of the 18i20? Thanks.
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
Talkback is routed by choosing the "Custom Mix + Talkback" option in each of the output pair configurations. In this case, you can mix the desired combination of hardware / software inputs and talkback will also be routed through the outputs. This gives you a custom mix for each person being recorded and talkback communication. Hope this helps out!
@jimleadbetterdrums Жыл бұрын
Hey hey, I added an octopre to my focusrite 18i20 (18i20 is my main interface). finally got focusrite controls to see an adat signal. However, i'm not seeing any adat track/input whilst in garage band. all I see is inputs 9-20. nothing resembles adat. Any clues? Thanks! im using a mac os ventura.
@jimleadbetterdrums Жыл бұрын
Figured it out. I got logic and ditched garage band. 😎
@georgebreiter5424 Жыл бұрын
Can I monitor all 16 analog channels through the headphone output if I have an octopre connected via ADAT to a Scarlet 18i20? My goal is to send 16 analog channels out of the headphone jack to a mixer and then into Zoom video chat.
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
Yes you can! Create a Custom Mix for all 16 channels in Focusrite Control for the headphone output you want to use. Note that you can also do this with the loopback output if Zoom and the 18i20 are on the same computer in which case Zoom will see the loopback as a "microphone." Hope this helps out!
@prodcountryjames Жыл бұрын
Hi thanks for the video the loopback was very helpful. I ran into another problem. I'm running a iMac 2017 with a Clarett+ 8pre. I would love to use my Pro40 as more outputs for hybrid mixing. My issue is I can not connect my Pro40 because of FireWire. Once I run Optical cord and set to ADAT there's no sound until I switch to 48khz then it either pop and click or Clarett+ keeps restarting. Do I need to invest in a Octopre?
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to help out and if you need further detail on loopback, I have a specific video with further details. The good news it you can use your Pro40 as an A/D and D/A converter with your Clarett+ 8pre so, as good as the Octopre is, you will not have to go in that direction. You will need to setup your Pro40 to operate in Standalone mode with its clock source set to ADAT and routing setup to forward ADAT In 1-8 to Line Out 1-8 and Analog In 1-8 to ADAT Out 1-8. Make sure you also set the sample rate to what you plan to use on the Clarett+ or the Pro40 won't sync up. Focusrite posted a step-by-step guide at this link support.focusrite.com/hc/en-gb/articles/206849939-How-do-I-set-up-my-Saffire-or-Scarlett-1st-Gen-for-Standalone-Mode- Let me know if you have any questions or issues when setting it up.
@prodcountryjames Жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk Thanks for the reply. I'm seriously getting annoyed with the Focusrite control. I routed my Lexicon MX200 I just purchase to interface then mute track so I will not get feedback in Control. Set up my I/O properly in Protools. Set everything up as it should be, but I get no sound from my Lexicon in my Protools unless I unmuted it in control which will play Reverb across everything without an insert. I'm So confused, all my hardware works, but not the Lexicon. I hope you can make sense of this.
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
If you are getting reverb across everything when it is unmuted, it sounds like a number of channels might be routed to the output you are using to send audio to the MX200. This can either be in the way Focusrite Control is configured or in the way you have the send setup in Protools. If you can provide a few details about how you have the input and output for the MX200 setup in Focusrite Control and the send setup in Protools I may be able to offer a more detailed solution.
@prodcountryjames Жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk I was told to use a S/pidf which solved my problem. Thanks anyway for the reply.
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
Glad you were able to get it sorted out! SPDIF often does not have a default setup for multiple channels which I suspect was the solution, but either way, great to hear!
@222RL 2 жыл бұрын
My focusrite 18i20 doesnt seem to pick up the input/output levels the same with my axefx2. There's a signal but no sound from my guitar in my axefx2. I've got my axefx2 connected to channels 3&4. Any help would be appreciated!
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
I would first suggest connecting another source to inputs 3&4 on the 18i20 to confirm levels look good. After that, if you are getting signal to inputs 3&4 one of the most likely causes is a Volume block or even Global blocks on your axefx2. I would check your output settings to see if any of the blocks are configured to disrupt signal (such as expression pedals that are not plugged in). I've also seen this where a new amp is not compatible with output routing configurations in older firmware, in which case doing an update often solves the issue. Another alternative, though a hassle to setup your custom presets again, is to do a factory reset, which generally solves these kinds of issues. Hope this helps and let me know how it goes!
@rickkproductions2888 Жыл бұрын
18i8 question here...What is the setting( in Focusrite Control) if I am using the Spdif input from a guitar processor(Kemper amp) and the optical input from another guitar processor(Axe FX 3)? I see I can only set the "Spdif Source" to "RCA or Optical" and the clock source to "ADAT or Spdif? Or can I only use one at a time? Also I'm using a Bidirectional Optical Toslink SPDIF to Coaxial Audio Converter for the Axe Fx so I can go from Spdif RCA to Optical on my 18i8. Thanks
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
In order to have both processors connected to the 18i8 and have all of their word clocks in sync, you will need to use either the Kemper or Axe as the master clock. The issue will be getting one processor to sync to the other. Depending on which Kemper you have, some support word clock as both internal/auto while some only support internal (and therefore need to be the master). The best chance to get this working is if your Kemper supports "auto" mode for word clock. Connect the Kemper SPDIF RCA output to your 18i8 SPDIF RCA input and your Axe SPDIF output to the 18i8 optical input using your converter as you said. Set the 18i8 to use SPDIF source as "Optical" and the clock source to SPDIF. Now your 18i8 will sync to either the Kemper or the Axe, but not all at the same time. To solve this, connect an RCA cable from the SPDIF RCA output on your Axe to the SPDIF input on your Kemper. I know this sounds strange as you aren't sending audio from your Axe to your Kemper, but the idea is that the Axe will serve as the master word clock and the Kemper will be the slave. You will need to set the Kemper word clock to "Auto/Internal" (found in the SPDIF volume page). This way the clock comes from the Axe, the Kemper syncs to the Axe, and the 18i8 also syncs to the Axe. All three will be in sync and you should be able to use both on the 18i8 without swapping settings. This is a bit of a work around, but I hope it helps out.
@rickkproductions2888 Жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk Thanks very much!!
@JohnnyOSKinDeep Жыл бұрын
Your video's are stellar and Extremely informative. I have a question that you may have answered but it may have escaped me. I have a scarlet 18i20 3rd generation, The question is: I want to be able to process ADAT outputs 1&2 through external gear. However when I hard patch the outputs from the from the front of the device to my patch bay no audio is passed. I know I'm missing something. Please help! Please and Thank you!
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
Thanks and I'm glad to help out! The two most common reasons audio doesn't pass over ADAT are either sync or routing setup in FC. If sync is the issue, not audio will pass in or out. If your external ADAT device and 18i20 clocks are synced, then the issue is likely the need to adjust the mixer in FC. Since you are using front inputs 1-2, go into FC, select the ADAT 1-2 output and then either select "Hardware Input 1-2" or if you want to use "Custom Mix" turn up the fader for inputs 1-2. Let me know if this solves the issue. If you still aren't getting sound, let me know what you have connected over ADAT and how you have word clock configured on both devices.
@JohnnyOSKinDeep Жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk Sync was not an issue as I had my DAW slaved to the sample rate of the 18i20. When I changed the routing as you suggested it worked like a charm. I changed the output of ADAT 1&2 to listen on 3&4. HOWEVER~! When selecting input 3&4 on my DAW (Logic) to record, I have to turn down the volume all the way or it feeds back (duh!). Thanks for all your help and suggestions. I can now route a project to an outboard compressor, or any other processor for that matter, and then back in to Logic! Thanks for taking the time to answer this as it had me puzzled~!
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
That's great to hear and I am glad to help out!
@JohnnyOSKinDeep Жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk I have another question if you don't mind..I have a clarett+ 8 pre and have the ins and outs patched as a through connection to a patch bay. But When I insert a mic in the circuit...Nothing! Thoughts? Further, I know you use a channel strip how do you gain stage with the preamp in your interface?? as always your thoughts and help are very much appreciated. Wishing you and yours a very healthy and happy Holiday Season
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
If you are using TRS cables between your clarett+ and patch bay that is likely the issue. The combo jack inputs on the clarett+ are designed for line level only through TRS/TS while XLR allows for both microphones and line level signals. Many will use an XLR to TRS cable for a TRS patch bay, just be careful with phantom power... For gain staging a preamp or channel strip to the interface, the first thing I consider is ambient sound. If I want to hear more of the room, I bring the level up higher on the preamp (peaks often around -10dB) and then add very little from the interface so as peaks into the DAW are around -8 to -6dB. If I want to control ambience, I set the preamp so as to have peaks around -14db and then bring the peaks up with the interface so the DAW again has -8 to -6dB. This of course can vary if I am tracking with compression in with case I alter the proportion of gain between the preamp and interface to either emphasize or de-emphasize character imparted by the compression. This is big topic and there will be videos coming... All the best of the season to you and yours as well!
@4wrestlingfans Жыл бұрын
I need help.. I have the focusrite Clarett + 8 pre and Iam trying to connect it to Berringer U phoria UMC 1820 via ADAT optical cable. I want the Clarrett to be my main interface. I watched your video and iam still get no sound I see the adat channels and actually see the meter showing playback but no sound. Can you draw me out the correct connections to get this running I will pay you.. let me know Iam trying to use my outboard gear and Iam using studio one thanks
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
While you can connect your Clarett+ and UMC 1820 with two ADAT cables, unfortunately the issue you are having relates to the way the UMC routes its analog ports. While the Clarett+ 8pre supports "stand-alone" mode, meaning its inputs can be routed to ADAT out and its outputs can be routed from ADAT in, the UMC does not. There is no way to configure the UMC to forward its analog inputs to its ADAT output nor is it possible to route its ADAT input to its analog outputs. The UMC is designed to work as the master only with ADAT. I definitely understand wanting to use the Clarett+ as the master, but unfortunately the UMC cannot be setup as a slave. You could setup the Clarett+ as stand-alone and slave it to the UMC as the master, but of course this is not making the best use of the Clarett+. While it is a hassle, the most affordable way to deal with this is probably to sell the UMC on Reverb...etc (the 1820s hold their value well) and then purchase an ADA8200 (for the same or possibly less than you can sell the UMC). The ADA8200 is specifically designed to work as a slave and will provide the additional IO you need for your outboard gear. Of course there are more expensive options (Clarett Octopre or Scarlett Octopre Dynamic) and others, but conversion on the ADA8200 is good and the unit has proven to be reliable. This isn't the response I like to give, but I hope it helps out!
@4wrestlingfans Жыл бұрын
@askdrtk thank you so much for the advise, I think I will sell the UMC , and I will let you know how it works out. By the way great channel keep up the good work.. much appreciated...
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
Thanks, all good...glad to help out.
@gradydemmitt3484 Жыл бұрын
Im using an 18i8 with an octopre connected via adat, but I cant get any of the line outputs on the octopre to show up in the focusrite control software.
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
The 18i8 supports eight channels of optical ADAT input but does not support ADAT output. The maximum channels counts are 18 in (8 analog, 2 SPDIF, 8 ADAT) and 8 out (4 analog, 2 headphone, 2 SPDIF). To use the line outputs on your octopre you would need to upgrade to an interface that includes an optical output connector.
@CharlesK441 9 ай бұрын
I have an 18i20 and Octopre. Is it possible to send 8 channels to a mixer? Im currently using the ins and outs on the 18i20 for outboard gear that i use either when recording or mixing in the DAW. Id like to be able to send 8 outs to a mixer if possible.
@askdrtk 8 ай бұрын
It depends which Octopre you have. The Scarlett Octopre Dynamic and Clarett Octopre both have analog outs, whereas teh standard Scarlett Octopre does not. If you have the “Dynamic” or the Clarett, ADAT out 1-8 from the 18i20 can be used as analog sends from the Octopre to a mixer. Hope this helps out!
@CharlesK441 8 ай бұрын
@askdrtk Unfortunately I have the standard. Looks like I'll be selling it now
@99ayrton 2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial! Thanks a lot for that! Just a question: I have a Clarett+ 8Pre and a Scarlet 18i20. Can I link them to get 8+8 channel on Cubase? Thank you very much!
@99ayrton 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry about my question. I read it now that you used both of them in this video😂😂😂 Thanks again!
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and all good! I use exactly this setup in my studio space (except I use Studio One). The Clarett + 8Pre is connected to the computer and the 18i20 is connected to the Clarett+ using two optical cables for ADAT (I record at 48kHz). The additional IO will become available in Cubase as part of the ASIO driver for the Clarett+. Let me know if you have any questions when setting it up!👍
@99ayrton 2 жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk. @@askdrtk
@99ayrton 2 жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk Wow!! You answered me so fast!! And I love (cars) speed!!!😃😃😃 Thank you!! Actually, I would need more help from you. 1- I’m working on the opposite setup because I already had a 18i20 installed on Mac, so I wanted to use my brand new Clarett as “slave”. 2- When I switch Clock Source to ADAT the 18i20 the sync led in Focusrite turns to red, and the green one (padlock) on Scarlet turns off. 3- Regarding the new Clarett, I did nothing but connecting two optical cables to my 18i20: no usb connection to my mac, so there are no (Clarett) drivers installed. My questions: Do I have to change setup using 18i20 as slave? If yes, do I have to cancel Focusrite app and restart from zero? Probably this is not the right place to talk about technical issues, I beg your pardon, but I would really appreciate your help. Thank you
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
I have always loved cars. I like to say I grew up working on cars with my grandfather from the time I could crawl under the hood...👍(but that's for another time, maybe Discord...) You can continue to run the 18i20 over usb to your Mac with the 8pre connected to the 18i20 by ADAT. It may seem backwards, but typically the clock is setup as the expansion unit (8pre) on ADAT being the master and the interface (18i20) being the slave (this greatly reduced sync issues). The main consideration is that your sample rate will need to be set the same on both the 8pre and 18i20 for it to work. You shouldn't need to do anything with your Focusrite Control installation. 1. Disconnect the 18i20 from the Mac and connect the 8pre. FC will recognize it. 2. Go into FC and set the sample rate to 48kHz and the clock to internal on the 8pre (you need to use 44.1 or 48 to have all 8 inputs and all 8 outputs over ADAT from the 8pre). 3. Disconnect the 8pre from the Mac and reconnect the 18i20. 4. Go into FC (it will bring up the 18i20) and set the sample rate to 48kHz and the clock source to ADAT. That should do it, you will have access to 8 analogue inputs, 2 SPDIF inputs, the 8 inputs from the 8pre via ADAT, 2 loopback inputs, 10 analogue outputs, 2 SPDIF outputs, and 8 outputs from the 8pre via ADAT all within Cubase under the 18i20 ASIO. Hope this helps out!
@prodcountryjames 10 ай бұрын
Hay Back again lol......I’m having a feedback issue, when I insert more then one hardware on a track I will get a double. I then would go to Focusrite control to turn fader down which allows me to hear nothing on that channel. I’ve tried muting also still nothing. All my inputs and out puts matches with Protools. My connections is correct, I’m using balanced cables. Focusrite control line outputs matches playback inputs. I’m using Focusrite clarett 8pre all connections is used.
@askdrtk 10 ай бұрын
It sounds (no pun intended) like you are sending a mix of both the DAW playback and analog input into each output on your Clarret. To setup FC for hardware inserts in ProTools (and other DAWs) I set each output to have only the corresponding DAW Playback input number (single setting and mixer is not required). If you try to use Custom Mix with more than one output/input pair sound will be doubled as FC uses the same Custom Mix for all outputs. For example, setup the Output 3 source as Playback DAW 3, the Output 4 source as Playback DAW source 4, and so on. This way only the send from ProTools will go to your outboard and ProTools will pick up the outboard return from the corresponding numbered input on the Clarret. I use the custom mix for monitoring only when I need to mix DAW playback with hardware inputs for recording. I hope this helps out!
@prodcountryjames 10 ай бұрын
@@askdrtk Thanks for replying. I have FC set up the same exact way. I did find away around it by sending all my tracks to a bus, then I can use my inserts on single tracks or bus tracks. Weird I never had to go through this before. Maybe it’s a update issue? I don’t know.
@askdrtk 10 ай бұрын
Could be. I have my sessions setup with tracks to a series of buses and have not experienced doubling but I also have used multiple inserts on different tracks without buses and not experienced doubling with this configuration. Glad you have things working. I will do some further testing with this to see what I can find.
@prodcountryjames 10 ай бұрын
@@askdrtk Thank You.
@MetalDetailer Жыл бұрын
I’m having trouble connecting my iPhone to this. I have the app on the PC and on my phone. However, the control doesn’t show or connect. Am I missing something?
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
If both your PC and iPhone are connected to the same network the issue is likely a firewall setting. To check this, open Windows Settings -> Update and Security -> Firewall and Network Protection and then choose Allow an app through firewall. Look to see if Focusrite Control is on the list and checked for Private networks, if it isn't on the list add it, and if it isn't checked, check it to allow for Private networks only. Hope this helps out.
@MetalDetailer Жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk this worked. It was checked for private not public. Once selected to public it all worked. Thanks!
@pvampman 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t have that “digital i/o mode…I have a scarlet 18i8 gen 2. Is that feature only for the 18i20?
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
It is for 3rd gen 18i8 and 18i20 only. On the 18i8 it allows you to switch the optical input between ADAT and SPDIF protocol and the 18i20 adds a second optical port for dual ADAT at higher sample rates. SPDIF over optical is less commonly used in my experience (2 channels vs 8 for ADAT). Both the 2nd gen 18i8 and 18i20 have a single optical input that is ADAT only, so no need for digital i/o menu. Thanks for asking and I hope this helps out!
@pvampman 2 жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk how would I clock an ADAT device and SPDIF coax device at the same time on my unit to utilize all 18 inputs at the same time? I have a ART MPA pre amp with adat out, and another preamp with spdif coax out.
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
I am familiar with the MPA's digital i/o, but It will depend on the connections your other preamp has. Let me know what it is and I will try to help out.
@pvampman 2 жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk it's a joemeek twin Q. It has both spdif coax and optical out. Does not have ADAT in or out...just SPDIF optical/coax out.
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
Nice dual channel strip... To get everything synced up you can use the MPA as the clock source. Connect the ADAT output from the MPA to the ADAT input on 18i8 and set the clock on the 18i8 to ADAT in Focusrite Control. Then connect the SPDIF output from the JOEMEEK to the SPDIF input on the 18i8. Finally, connect a word clock (BNC) cable form the word clock out on the MPA to the word clock in on the JOEMEEK. The JM will automatically detect the clock and sync up. This way you can maximize the digital connections on your 18i8 and keep everything in sync. Hope this helps out!
@tonyflowmusic 10 ай бұрын
Does anyone know how to setup a scarlett and clarett together on Mac with adat?
@askdrtk 10 ай бұрын
Generally I would connect the Clarett to the Mac and then the Scarlett to the Clarett with ADAT. You will need two ADAT cables, one from the out on the Clarett to the in on the Scarlett and one from the out on the Scarlett to the in on the Clarett. For this to work you first need to use Focusrite Control to configure the Scarlett for Stand-Alone operation with the Scarlett’s analog inputs sent to its ADAT outputs and its analog outputs configured to output from its ADAT inputs. You also need to set the clock source of the Scarlett to ADAT. This is done with the Scarlett connected to the Mac and the Clarett disconnected from the Mac. Once the Scarlett is setup, disconnect it from the Mac and connect the Clarett. In Focusrite Control, ensure the Clarett’s clock source is configured to Internal. The analog inputs and outputs from the Scarlett will now be available in your DAW as the ADAT inputs and outputs from your Clarett. I hope this helps out! If you have further questions, let me know which Scarlett and Clarett you have and I can be more specific.
@xntricity6446 10 ай бұрын
@@askdrtkI can never understand why people don't thank a person for providing an answer. However this answer helps me with my current situation ❤ I assume the focusrite can be slave to clock of master via adat in standalone mode.
@davewelch2740 5 ай бұрын
The on-screen comment about Windows not seeing all of your channels and right clicking the icon does not appear to work in Windows 11. For me at any rate. Edit - The Icon in the system tray is what is being referred to.
@gustavaggeboe7014 4 ай бұрын
It worked for me. Is it still an issue for you?
@MentalBlue Жыл бұрын
One thing I cannot solve. I am connecting a Yamaha Motif XF to my SPDIF port. When playing something I am getting a strange glitch sound in irregular intervals. The sound is present only when playing something. I SOLVED THIS by setting the CLOCK SOURCE from "Internal" to "S/PDIF". But now when I turn off my keyboard I have no sound output even though the focusrite mixer shows singnals on VUmeters. When I turn on my keyboard everything is fine. This means I have to have my keyboard ON all the time or switch the clock from internal to S/PDIF .... :( WHAT am I doing wrong ?
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
Actually you are not doing anything wrong. The issue is that in order for two devices to communicate and pass digital audio over SPDIF (and other formats) the wordclock of both devices has to be in sync. The wordclock from your Motif is sent along with the digital audio over SPDIF and your interface receives the digital audio and wordclock (if you have clock source set to SPDIF) and then synchronizes itself to the Motif. If the clocks on the two devices are out of sync one of two things happens. 1. If the sample rate on both devices is set to 44.1 (the Motif XF operates at 44.1) and both use internal clock, you usually will get glitches and crackling. 2. If the sample rates are different on each device (MOTIF 44.1 and interface 48 for example) the will be no sound output from your interface. The same will happen if no clock is present (Motif is powered off and interface clock is set to SPDIF), Audio will still show on the VUmeters, but the DA converter will not be able to convert the signal to analog so you will not hear anything. Since the Motif (and many other synths with SPDIF) does not accept an external wordclock source, if you want to use SPDIF you are stuck using the Motfif as your master clock and setting your interface clock to SPDIF. Besides having to keep the Motif powered on, the clock in your interface is likely superior (less jitter) and therefore audio quality will be superior using the internal clock on the interface, but then you are stuck with analog output from the synth to your interface. (I am aware that the SPDIF sound from the Motifs is often preferred vs their analog output.) You essentially end up needing to switch the clock source on your interface back and forth between internal and SPDIF depending on whether you are using the Motif. While this isn't a solution to using SPDIF from the Motif with your interface set to internal clock, I hope this at least clears up what is happening and again, there is nothing you are doing wrong, there are only choices to be made.
@MentalBlue Жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk First of all thank you for this detailed answer. I think not even Focusrite would answer me like this. :) I love when someone is detailed and understands the core of the specific problem. It looks like I will have to switch in the Focusrite interface from Internal to S/PDIF, every time I want to use my MOTIF. I am really unhappy about this since it slows down my workflow. Even though I am using 3 midi keyboards, Push2 and Maschine Studio as well as Softube Console 1as midi input devices I love the key mechanics on my MOTIF and I like to use it as a midi keyboard and as a quality synthesizer / sound-module device. For this purpose I use midi and sound at the same time and I use it a lot and often. So switching is a real pain. Everything I want is to get the best possible sound quality from my MOTIF to my Focusrite 18i20 and the best way to do it IMO is digital and not analog. At the same time I want to be able to use MIDI. I am not sure what I have done when I had my 18i8 (1st or 2nd generation) but I know for sure that I used it in S/PDIF and MIDI mode parallel and it worked just great without switching anything. I feel a little bit pissed having 2 pieces of relatively expensive equipment, worth a lot more than 2000 EUR together and not being able to do this simple and IMO essential setup need.
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
All good, I'm glad to help out! I can see that it may have worked without changing the clock source on your gen 1 or 2 18i8. I have had this happen before where even though the clocks were not synced to each other everything seemed to work...doesn't happen often, more likely to happen with an individual instrument vs a mix buss, but it can happen - luck of the draw... but not as reliable as syncing up the clocks. It is a pain to switch clock sources, but I agree the overall sound quality will be better if you use SPDIF from your MOTIF vs analog, it's just something about the converters in the MOTIF that aren't quite there vs the converters in most interfaces (really a shame as otherwise (over digital) the MOTIF sounds great!
@danferris4946 2 жыл бұрын
just purchased 18i20 ,am using 7 mics on drum kit ,what would you recommend I purchase to get 8 more inputs
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the 18i20, it is a great platform for both recording and mixing. ADAT expansion to get an additional 8 inputs (and possibly anothe 8 outputs) will get you added flexibility for not only tracking, but for analogue inserts and more. A recommendation depends on what you are looking for - mic preamps, line level IO, DI. Let me know what you are planning to use the additional IO for and I will provide a few recommendations.
@danferris4946 2 жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk hi ,my goal is to record the band live from the room .need vocals and 2 guitars and bass along with drums taking up 7 mics So more inputs needed than outputs. Thanks.
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
In that case, as a general rule it is easier to get a good blend of all band instruments and vocals when you are using the same preamps on all mics - this is how we generally record in studios with large format mixing consoles. You hear a lot about boutique preamps (1073, 512, etc.) which can be great for recording individual instrument or vocals, but for an entire band, unless you can get enough of these high-end preamps for everything (say 16 Neve 1073s- expensive...), in my opinion you are better to use the transparent preamps on the interface for recording the entire band live. You could use a Scarlett OctoPre over ADAT which would add 8 more preamp inputs and give you a total of 16 matched preamps. You could also use another 18i20 over ADAT to get the 8 extra preamps and also end up with 8 additional outputs (nice when used with a headphone amplifier to provide individual monitor mixes for each band member). Using another 18i20 is often less expensive vs purchasing the OctoPre, so I would likely go that route. To use another 18i20, you first connect it to your computer and then configure it for stand alone pass through of analogue ports over ADAT, clock, etc. as I explain in the video. Hope this helps out!
@danferris4946 2 жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk awesome, now to rewatch your videos, cheers ,Dan
@askdrtk 2 жыл бұрын
All good. Let me know if you have any questions when settings things up. 👍
@gabemartinez1012 Жыл бұрын
On my 4i4 3rd dosent show monitors control.
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
OK, this is because the 4i4 has an analog monitor control hardwired to outputs 1/2 only. Selectable monitor pair output control is only available on models with a digital monitor control.
@gabemartinez1012 Жыл бұрын
@@askdrtk Oh it make since, so which one should i get?
@askdrtk Жыл бұрын
Focusrite interfaces with a digital (assignable) control knob include the Scarlett 18i8 (3G), Scarlett 18i20 (2 and 3G), Clarett 2Pre, 4Pre, and 8Pre (includes all USB, Thunderbolt, and "plus" models), and the Clarett 8PreX. The choice comes down to how much IO you need, but the Clarett+2Pre has the same IO as the Scarlett 4i4 (plus optical input for expansion but does not have loopback). The only thing about moving up to the Clarett+ line is cost is much higher. The Clarett+2Pre is almost the same price as the Scarlett 18i20 in my area. The Clarett+ has upgraded preamps and converters, but the Scarlett 18i20 has far more IO. I will also mention that Focusrite has the Scarlett 18i20 second gen on sale for $349 usd on their website at the moment which is a great value and is only lacking the loopback feature (which you can create by connecting one cable between SPDIF in and out ports).
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