Grubby plays FIRST actual game of STORMGATE (Game played on 3-February-2024) Catch me live all days of the week at: / grubby Join my Discord! / discord #Grubby #Games #Strategy #Multiplayer #Competitive
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@KiiroSagi4 ай бұрын
If any devs read this, make sure you give this game a good tutorial and then follow up with a good campaign somewhere down the roadmap!
@Anttown1234 ай бұрын
Lol what? It seems so easy to learn
@KiiroSagi4 ай бұрын
@@Anttown123 Warcraft seems easy too then you get tower rushed and uninstall
@Anttown1234 ай бұрын
@@KiiroSagi Lmao 🤣
@scrapbotcommander4 ай бұрын
@@Anttown123 I'm gonna be honest, as someone who has watched a lot but almost never played, RTS games are very hard to get into at first. Controlling the camera is difficult in RTs. In most other genres, you can just use WASD or arrow keys to move the camera around, no big deal. But in an RTS that's way too slow of an approach. Plus, the arrow key hand needs to be at my mouse at all times whereas WASD is already taken up by other hotkeys (and rightly so) leaving very little room for me to make any use of the key bindings for camera movement anyways. Yes, I know there are camera location hotkeys. No, I don't know how they work yet xD That's what I'm stuck on now, and it'll probably take me a good day or two of practicing just to get the hang of that. It's completely new to me. Combine that with learning the tech tree, learning how to develop a macro cycle for the first time, figuring out different unit hotkeys, learning the basics of micro, then learning how to _balance_ that micro and macro both at the same time. Combine it with learning to creep, learning to scout, and learning how to reactively make changes based on your scouting info. Combine it with finding a build, learning how to execute it, and then learning how to recognize when a build becomes obsolete - maybe the meta has shifted, or maybe your skill has since improved and you can take on something more. It's a lot, and it's definitely not easy to learn if it's your first time. It's extremely time intensive and overwhelming. The easy factor only kicks in if you've already practiced similar skills before when playing other games, which Grubby and most of the other popular streamers giving coverage to Stormgate have. They make it look easy in the same way a chess grand master makes it look easy to play bullet chess. That's partially what co-op is for, and that's also gonna be what the campaign will be for too. To give new comers some breathing room to learn and improve, and to make it so they don't have to be good at 1v1 to have fun with the game.
@Anttown1234 ай бұрын
@@scrapbotcommander the camera panning has nothing with this game to do its rts in general the camera movement is pretty much the same in all rtss. To me it sounds like you are new to the genre not the game itself which is very diffrent and by that aspekt i can understand that it could be hard. But that still proves my point that this is an easy rts to learn and a good way to get into rts. (Tho imo this one doesnt look super interesting so far) there are far better games out there. Gl and keep grinding rts its the best genre by far imo.
@Dji-gurda_Jdi-druga4 ай бұрын
Scrapping heroes was a mistake I think. The game needs to be crazy and fun to interest casual people like warcraft 3 did.
@SoloSandal4 ай бұрын
5:15 Pre watch comment, I pray they increased legibility so I can distinctly tell who's who and what's going on in combat. Edit: I'd love to hear Grubby's "Org" unit sound imitations.
@Maw08224 ай бұрын
Spriggans are flying units made from the Twilight Spire. Weavers do 10% of unit health as damage rather than a flat number.
@moondrop5214 ай бұрын
hope they will seperate UI Scaling and mini map scaling at some point. Was a valid point you made
@simm0334 ай бұрын
I hoped for a groundbreaking RTS from Frost Giant, but Stormgate seems to lack creativity and has a bland, semi-cartoonish art style. It feels too much like a Starcraft clone without its charm. Despite my hopes for something more original, perhaps like a Warcraft IV, I'll try it out. Maybe its gameplay will surprise me.
@gongal4 ай бұрын
It's so over...
@Hrodholf4 ай бұрын
Starcraft at home
@elpred04 ай бұрын
People are so exposed to early access, unfinished games and broken promises that they can not imagine a version of this game looking polished.
@darthbane11614 ай бұрын
At the end he says let's go play multiplayer and then it ends! Looking forward to the next videos. Can't wait to play this game.
@TagaBearClaw4 ай бұрын
im having so much fun in the beta, this game is awesome!
@BlackMandragon4 ай бұрын
I am scared. When I watch this I feel like I am not as engaged as I should be.
@jtaco41014 ай бұрын
Yea this isn't exactly blowing my skirt up.
@florianhaffner39104 ай бұрын
Its very underwhelming in every aspect
@Maw08224 ай бұрын
One tip! Creeping with gaunts is way more efficient since you infest the neutrals and get free fiends
@gongal4 ай бұрын
Looks like another example of a sterilized product that aims for e-sports first, fun later. Hopefully what we see in terms of unit roster is like half of the units they plan to put in the game, and I'm not even talking about missing Tier 3 stuff.
@JfrancoisRicard4 ай бұрын
Exactly my feeling. Its like the devs were aiming to release the most bland game possible. After playing a few matches, my hype level is 0/10.
@pierreo334 ай бұрын
That sound when clicking on the Shrine gets old real fast lmao
@Iceberge1014 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, glad im not alone in this
@IngoGarza4 ай бұрын
its the worst togheter with the combat alert
@acolyte19514 ай бұрын
it doesn't feel like it has enough depth yet
@Maw08224 ай бұрын
Missing t3 units and at least one new faction. 3v3 also will use hero units. I agree this build definitely doesn't feel like a complete game yet
@SmokeBloody4 ай бұрын
I really hope the game will have a campaign as good as Starcraft II or Warcraft III.
@jtaco41014 ай бұрын
Lol. GL with that.
@hugeboulder3 ай бұрын
Infernal ftw - I'm really enjoying the game so far.
@ashes_30304 ай бұрын
I’m excited by another RTS game being on the market but I wish it was more akin to Warcraft 3. I feel like a lot of games are going in the direction of StarCraft esque systems and behaviours. Personally, playing these types of games feel really bad, as everything is so fast. Units die instantly, move so sharply, etc… also the UI and features look right out of StarCraft with some improvements which is fine but doesn’t feel new. It doesn’t feel like this is innovating a lot, simply giving an alternative that isn’t made by Blizz. Which I guess in that view, a major improvement 😂
@WarBob565654 ай бұрын
Try Company of Heroes 3
@nullcypher4 ай бұрын
what you're looking for is a retro game.
@DecemberGift4 ай бұрын
i agree. i play dota, and it has most features from wc3 baked into it. and mobas like league that dont have some of the deeper interactions feel vapid and shallow. no turn rate, no different damage types, no stats. each character feels so different from how individual characters are. having a better BAT is sick
@crashingflamingo30284 ай бұрын
Yeah, it kind of feels like a SC2 ripoff :/
@Moz4L94 ай бұрын
WC 3 creeping is far more exciting and dynamic.
@TagaBearClaw4 ай бұрын
only if you find greater mana potion 🙃
@panbaiye4 ай бұрын
That was fun
@Vandreand4 ай бұрын
Is there any videos of the 3 VS AI mode?
@nicesickmusic4 ай бұрын
niiice lets go
@Nopejams4 ай бұрын
"OUR FORCES ARE IN BATTLE!!!!!!!!!!"
@noctiss_season24 ай бұрын
wait do you guys hear this?? 4:24 listen "our forces are in battleuuu........uuu....." what the hell is that xdddddd
@Norbingel4 ай бұрын
Do they have some kind of physics in this yet? I always thought that a marine shouldn't be able to body block an Ultralisk, for example. I think RTSs after Age of Mythology kind of took a step back in many ways.
@Bruce3724 ай бұрын
Should check out D.O.R.F, now that's an upcoming RTS that looks like some real love is being put into the game.
@solarsoul16174 ай бұрын
jesus, these buttons are huge
@CashMoneyMoore4 ай бұрын
Game looks so much better compared to last build
@beridledodopidop48224 ай бұрын
compared to last build?
@gongal4 ай бұрын
compared to last build@@beridledodopidop4822
@elpred04 ай бұрын
@@beridledodopidop4822 beta version
@Mactakun4 ай бұрын
@@beridledodopidop4822this game is in beta, they are releasing different beta builds over time for player testing
@Drogash4 ай бұрын
Stormgate is pretty much Diablo vs Terran i love it, We need a Insect race, from Dark Planet
@arkivuo52844 ай бұрын
This is a very early build right? Not coming soon? :s
@julianwittmann73024 ай бұрын
Behave
@dantefromdevilmaycry98574 ай бұрын
12:35 Impossible.. perhaps the archives are incomplete?
@eqsaz4 ай бұрын
... FORCES ARE IN BATTLE!!!
@LddStyx4 ай бұрын
Potion-seller give me your most powerful potion! I'M GOING INTO BATTLE!
@milosmarinkovic28534 ай бұрын
From what I could see in this new build I would identify a fiew problems I can see. -Many of the units are still hard to identify from each other in the Infernal faction. Brutes and Gaunts are still too similar and are hard to distinguish the two types. One of the key attributes to that is that the color gray is way too much present in the look of the units. The Zerg in Sc have their browns, greens etc, Protoss gold colors and Terran gray. In SG both the Infernals and Vanguard units have too much gray on them. Give the races their distinct colors that suit their themes and it will be a lot easier to distinguish them on the battlefield. -Team color identifiers are not that big enough when if comes to many of the Infernal units. The Gaunts and Brutes are still very hard to identify when it comes to the team color they belong to. To Spriggans don't have any team color identification at all. The Spriggans and the unit with tall legs are the worst looking units in the whole faction in my opinion. I saw that promotion video that FG made a while back where they showed a lot of the cool concept art for many units in the Infernal faction. What happened to that art? I am team Infernals so I want cool looking units in the faction I would like to play. I know it's stil early beta etc but still want to give out some feedback I have.
@StfuSiriusly4 ай бұрын
I mean its still really early. Months away from even early access so I am sure they are prioritizing core features before cosmetic stuff.
@laurelkeeper4 ай бұрын
Put this feedback out there! The devs definitely need to hear it.
@raxzar4 ай бұрын
Only 2 Races or more to come?
@glockenspeal4 ай бұрын
From what I've seen so far the maps are far too big, i feel like you could knock 1/3rd off or even half the size of them
@trueseeing4 ай бұрын
Looks soulless.
@HoretzYT4 ай бұрын
I wonder why developers stopped using regular unit veterancy like in KKND/RedAlert2/CnC Generals/Dawn of war 2, especially here when 1v1 games are with no heroes, it would make creeping more rewarding, wanting to creep to give you an edge over your enemy in the upcoming fight and also making you pick targets more precisely and taking care of your own veteran units
@johnkalyvas48384 ай бұрын
The Vanguard faction has unit veterancy and less expendable units. Infernals gain energy for their top bar abilities through both kills and losses.
@mrpipper72714 ай бұрын
What is that bar at the top, that looks so ugly, its like big and bulky like some mobile game ui
@JN-hs5xl4 ай бұрын
But Starcraft 2 has the same bar in coop/single player so they had to clone that too XD
@mrpipper72714 ай бұрын
@@JN-hs5xl I don’t play that much sc, mainly watch. I’m kinda sad they didn’t modernize the ui at all. I hate the bulky empty box’s and all the commands you can give each unit, modernize the ui. You don’t need to tell the player the “s” key stops the unit, hide that info, league and dota do and it’s not a problem, just cleans up so much
@Intelligenkeit4 ай бұрын
is this a new game?
@thumbwarriordx4 ай бұрын
The co-op is good because it's something for your third-wheel to do. There's a reason it's 3vE Otherwise they're just observing your 1v1 and taking turns or just waiting for a 4th party member to join for a 2v2.
@lucasmoore39074 ай бұрын
The workers should be carrying the resources they're harvesting... MAKE THIS HIGH PRIORITY PLEASE!!
@bakuretsutroll4 ай бұрын
IMHO I am ok with the demons more or less but 80% of the humans units look off putting AND they look the same they kinda blend together- it is something with legs and in a spacesuit, in general it gives a very weird feeling, like if it happens on Earth what the hell, why every unit needs to have some sort of spacesuit it is so sify like we are on fkn Mars and then we have trees and dogs, then i would expect some common sense, where are the actual tanks and vehicles? and if i am forced to meele fight in a fkn spacesuit i would use something like a Chainsaw and a shield lol, but even here absolute absence of common sense even for a fanatasy world standards. Workers also look like humanoid robots which run like pricks . Where is common sense, like, we have not seen the campaign but it already feels made up and forced, in SC and WC for example it is way more natural. I think some major redesign actions need to be taken, because right now it's just not believable, just some random models, i am not talking about game mechanics, there are some ideas which I enjoy but then finally we have only 2 races, which is unacceptable in 2024, in my opinion it should be at least 3. I like how Happy put it together in his last interview: "Misérable attempt to make SC2". I really wish the game successful future, the world needs more true RTS's but man, there are many better designed and thought through custom wc3 maps than the current build of the game. Cheers.
@onizukapls14884 ай бұрын
Too much starcraft lookswise, gameplay seems okay but it lacks the certain feeling of it. I think the more you expect it to be like warcraft 3, the more you will be disappointed.
@Drogash4 ай бұрын
for stormgate it would be smart to have 2 1v1 Ranked modes, have a Ranked system for 1v1 No heroes enabled, and a 1v1 ranked for heroes enabled, it would be really cool cause then you can play 1v1 with the heroes, if that is somthing you really enjoy, or play without heroes, and then it would just be nice to go back and forth between the modes, it would make playing 1v1 feel fresh when you switch up the modes, I dont see why not, have both have a Heroes PVP mode and a no hero pvp mode, and a rank system for both cause why not? it would bring more players cause some might like one mode over the other and then on top of that more game modes to play to keep the game lasting longer
@Mactakun4 ай бұрын
Actually a good idea 😮 I wonder how it would be balanced
@Elnaroth4 ай бұрын
how tf does wc3 look so much better? o.O
@falcodarkzz4 ай бұрын
The design/style is so generic. Feels like a cheap animated movie for kids or something...Sigh, I miss the old RTS days where games had charisma in spades (Tiberium, Red Alert, starcraft, total annihilation, BFME)
@jonathannoble76574 ай бұрын
The fact that there are only 2 races in the game is extremely worrying. This sucks
@williampounds51914 ай бұрын
There's a third race not in the game yet bud. Which is approximately what most RTS have. 3-4.
@sakkiebasson20524 ай бұрын
This game looks so bland, world didnt need another SC clone. If SC would have succeeded in this genre and current state of gaming it would still be super popular. It needed innovation, a re take on the war3 type genre of heroes and items and combt in a RTS and innovating on that as an example to a modern game. But yeah, just the same old stuff, I can't see it succeeding after the initial honeymoon period
@stevepwn4 ай бұрын
th9is game is whack
@st3v0n3 ай бұрын
My opinion... yawn.
@athanastos4 ай бұрын
Starcraft copy paste, lame
@woodwoodwoodwoodwoodwood4 ай бұрын
cheap copy of starcraft, not interested
@Lucas-uo9ml4 ай бұрын
this game is so dead
@williampounds51914 ай бұрын
RTS fans are the number 1 reason this genre is dead and irrelevant.
@kevinwismer94574 ай бұрын
Finally someone speaking the truth.
@petercoderch5894 ай бұрын
Grubby desperately trying to find a game to replace WC3 since the failure of Reforged. Over the past 3 years, I've seen him try many games. AOE4, LOL, DOTA2, briefly returned to SC2, etc. I though he had settled on DOTA2, but how he seems to be moving to League of Legends. That's w smart move, since that's where the really big money is. But Grubstar will never find a game that replaces WC3, because the game is just *too* good. And I do not think Grub will ever play any other game to the level that he played WC3. Mastering a game is just too difficult. WC3 is right up there as arguably the hardest game to master, and he did it. Throwing 20+ years of practice and experience in the gargage is quite sad.
@bryansweeney30774 ай бұрын
I don't think he's really trying to replace WC3 per se. It can just be fun to have some variety in what games you play
@dorgimedeiros4 ай бұрын
or maybe he just enjoys learning new games and has fun while making money at the same time? your comment is actually sad little bro
@VeganKebabDoRuky4 ай бұрын
You're just insecure when it comes to WC3 and the games Grubby gives attention to and it manifests in this odd manner.
@petercoderch5894 ай бұрын
Most streamers stick to a single game, 2 tops because becoming good at a game is extremely difficult. The better you are at a game, the more subscribers you have.
@petercoderch5894 ай бұрын
@@dorgimedeiros My comment is not sad at all, but actually very intelligent. Making money? People don't subscribe and pay to watch someone be noob at a game. The higher your level of skill, all else considered, the more subscribers and the more money you make. I think your comment is sad and brainless.