Food Forest tour, and a small discussion on hydroponics and permaculture

Food Forest tour, and a small discussion on hydroponics and permaculture - Late fall, 2023.

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It's been a while, due to illness, but we're back at it.
This spring, I mentioned that I would try to take the same pathway through the food forest, pond, wildflower hill and old man walking trail, so that you could see the entire property, and see the same sections at various times of the year. Today we continue that tour-experiment. Let me know if you like that idea, and like these videos.
I also end the video on a discussion of small scale hydroponics (and other such things) and if they belong in permaculture. If they are "organic", or "sustainable". This is just a line of thinking that I had, because I've seen this topic brought up in various other locations before. I.e. "Hydroponics can't be permaculture because there's a pump that draws electricity", etc. Or "hydroponics can't be organic". It doesn't help that both the terms "permaculture" and "organic" have various meanings to various people. But I give my thoughts at the end of the video. Let me know your thoughts in the comments!
I hope you enjoyed this tour, and I hope you've had a wonderful and rewarding growing season! Much love to my permie family!
Keith
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@CMSCK

I have 1/2 acre to plant on in the suburbs. I am freaking out the neighbours because my food forest have attracted huge garter snakes. I had a tarp down to kill off weeds and grass to make a new growing area. The snakes are living under the tarp. Guess I will leave it in place lol!

@dennispovloski8102

I've never seen a paw paw before. When you have some fruit ready for harvest, can you show them off in a video? Thanks! Enjoying your permaculture adventure from Florida!

@Double0pi

Thank you for the note on hydroponics. That's always been my feeling as well, so it's nice to see that I'm not alone in that belief. Now that I live in the U.P. of Michigan, with its super-short growing season, I think hydroponics/indoor growing is going to have to be a major part of my life.

@mvbelinskiy

hydro is most often about mineral fertilisers and juggling with dozens of different bottles (micro macro nutrient, pH adjusters, root protectors) to achieve good results. In my experience application of organics in hydroponics require very high maintenance of the system as organics tend to clog up the equipment and build up everywhere.

@ribbonwing

One of the permaculture principles is 'value the marginal' - and I think there's a lot of marginal uses for hydroponic systems like the one covered last video. Several of them were pointed out - over wintering plants, getting an early start for growing plants, maybe growing something that can't otherwise make it in your zone or that there just isn't a good place for in your yard. I'd love some follow up videos on the subject, tell us how it works on an ongoing basis!

@julie-annepineau4022

Pretty sure that small pale purple flower was a form of aster. Lots of them around here. You bush wacking thru the sunchokes and goldenrod gave me a laugh. Amazing how much everything grew up this summer with all the rain. Glad you're doing better!

@kaiyamorgulis2392

Lovely tour and glad to hear you're feeling better! Would enjoy more of the hydroponics discussion, as well :) Definitely also enjoyed the product review for hydroponics, as living in a Toronto apartment doesn't afford much outdoor gardening space. Super helpful and I wouldn't worry too much about the reviews. If the products help you, they're probably also helpful for somebody else!

@peterroberts999

Glad you're feeling better and thanks for the update. I also agree it's good to have conversation about the place of e.g. hydroponics. I have gone a slightly different route for indoor growing over the winter months and embraced microgreens like pea shoots. There is the energy input of a grow light but compared to the energy in purchased food it's a big win. I like this and some salad greens growing in pots of compost rather than hydroponics because I can create the input of compost myself rather than buying in nutrients for hydro, so it seems a little more sustainable. Nothing should be ruled out though so looking forward to seeing how you get on with it!

@alalmaoui5212

Gorgeous place and set up.

@mybelovedchaos

I'm glad you are feeling better!

@Growinginontario

The Chicago hardy fig I planted along the south side of the house is loving that spot. After dying to the ground , It grew to 7 feet and just started to fruit, not enough time to ripen though. I will be wrapping and insulating the stems to try to keep the stems alive this winter.🤞 I also planted one in the south side of my garden shed which is only 2-3 feet tall. microclimates make a huge difference for growing figs in colder climates

@catharinephoto

Thanks for the great video!

@melanieroscoe5720

Thanks for commenting on your creeping Charlie! I have it starting to work its way in to my new food forest beds, good to know I should be pulling that back. It’s

@LatzeH

I really wish you'd upload in 3k or 4k, but at the very least 1080p - I want to see all this in detail!

@growinginportland

Glad to hear you’re feeling better. Thanks for the tour man. I wish I had your problem with all that fruit but give me a few years and then I’ll I’ll be able to show some awesome videos. All my best.

@mayb.wright509

Thanks for this video. BTW, the purple daisy-looking plant [

@djmoulton1558

My biggest concern with hydroponics is whether the fruit and veg have the same amounts and varieties of nutrients, phytochemicals, etc. as plants grown naturally. Plants grown in natural, organic soils have the benefits of mineral, fungal and bacterial inputs that hydroponic systems come nowhere near to providing. Hydroponic systems are engineered to provide plants with the bare minimum to survive. What use is that for human nutrition?

@doinacampean9132

Creeping Charlie is an incredible medicinal herb - look it up - harvest for tea and say goodbye to colds and the like.

@CMSCK

I have such a problem with creeping Charley. It’s in my strawberries too plus around my rhubarb and haskaps. Today I put all of my shredded paper around my plants and woodchips on top.

@formidableflora5951

Hydroponics DO have a place in food production, I think we can all agree. But I'll echo the concerns already expressed here by several other viewers--i.e. nutrition and microplastics. Growing food in living, complex soil better mimics a natural system. Perhaps a weird analogy for some folks, but similar to bottle-feeding vs. breastfeeding an infant--while the latter is not always possible for a variety of reasons, it does provide immeasurable holistic benefits. Maybe I'm nit-picking here, but If I did purchase "organic" produce (instead of growing it), I would prefer to know if it was grown in soil or grown hydroponically.