The HUGE Ability Buff That Got Nerfed IMMEDIATELY

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foofootoo

foofootoo

Жыл бұрын

The ability Cud Chew got a secret buff that made it much stronger, but it was nerfed again almost as soon as the community became aware of it. I explain the mechanics of the buff, how strong it could have been, and why it got nerfed again.
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@foofootoo
@foofootoo Жыл бұрын
How much cud could a cud chewer chew if a cud chewer could chew cud? Only 2 unfort.
@arnoldj.samson5795
@arnoldj.samson5795 Жыл бұрын
I don't know how much cud could a cud chewer chew if a cud chewer could chew cud. Do you know how much cud could a cud chewer chew if a cud chewer could chew cud?
@nitzanshu4695
@nitzanshu4695 Жыл бұрын
Obviously, cud tew ;D (could two)
@jessehunter362
@jessehunter362 Жыл бұрын
In real life, it’s more like four times.
@Ironu-xz3jh
@Ironu-xz3jh Жыл бұрын
I wonder how this could have interacted with the move pluck?
@gustavju4686
@gustavju4686 Жыл бұрын
Other mons they could've given Cud Chew are Numel line, Skiddo line, Mareep line, and Miltank.
@foofootoo
@foofootoo Жыл бұрын
Gogoat has recovery in Milk Drink so could have been a really great user, especially with a berry that boosts defenses
@astropult9377
@astropult9377 Жыл бұрын
Greedent too
@T0beyeus
@T0beyeus Жыл бұрын
Yeah any ruminant should have gotten it.
@witherkilleryeh
@witherkilleryeh Жыл бұрын
Don't give Miltank anything
@marcalcantara1174
@marcalcantara1174 Жыл бұрын
@@witherkilleryeh let go that silver/gold trauma, he isn't one of the best tanks by far
@hokostudios
@hokostudios Жыл бұрын
I'd just like to point out that Farigiraf also gets Baton Pass. Even with Cud Chew working the way it was intended, and even without Stored Power, Starf boosts could still wind up extremely useful if you wanted to lean into that (in SV rather than Smogon). You could also just go with a more standard pinch berry and one of Farigiraf's own boosting moves if you wanted something more predictable. Anyway, still totally perplexed by the slots each of Farigiraf's abilities are in. You'd totally expect Armor Tail to replace Inner Focus and Cud Chew to replace Sap Sipper, but nope!
@foofootoo
@foofootoo Жыл бұрын
2 very good points - I hadn't clocked the slots for the abilities since my giraffe is from a tera raid...
@toffyflame0
@toffyflame0 Жыл бұрын
They swapped it around like Girafarig to Farigiraf
@devinnall2284
@devinnall2284 Жыл бұрын
They definitely should have kept this it would've gave people an actual reason to run unnerve
@skyeplaysgames4598
@skyeplaysgames4598 Жыл бұрын
This, yes
@Smart1529
@Smart1529 Жыл бұрын
Corviknight with Unnerve
@Rour_Milotic
@Rour_Milotic Жыл бұрын
So basically a polteageist could make you eat the berry with teatime and then swap you another berry with trick, so you can cud chew one berry on turn 2 and cud chew again a diferent berry on turn 3
@fulltimeslackerii8229
@fulltimeslackerii8229 Жыл бұрын
smogon would have banned cud chew recycling the random +2 berry by calling it “essentially moody”
@cameronturner8087
@cameronturner8087 Жыл бұрын
Moody but no stat down
@FightingDuskstalker
@FightingDuskstalker Жыл бұрын
Polteageist: "Who wants to eat a Starf Berry at 100% turn 1?"
@mattdriver6875
@mattdriver6875 Жыл бұрын
I wish I had known about that before it was patched out. Infinite heals with sitrus, that just makes Flare Blitz and Wave Crash super spammable. Only the regular Paldean Tauros would miss out on that since it only gets double edge instead of those moves ( Kanto Tauros would have enjoyed that if it got Cud chew as well)
@BlahBohogun
@BlahBohogun Жыл бұрын
Sheer Force is still dope though. Especially if you paired it with Life Orb and moves with a secondary effect.
@mattdriver6875
@mattdriver6875 Жыл бұрын
@BlahBohogun lol, yeah, that's true. Orb Sheer force body slam is stronger than wave crash or flare Blitz and no recoil lol. But the strong Fire or Water, along with fighting stab that constantly heals ( and can drop and screens since raging bull is always a good move too) sounds like a menace to me, lol well in any gen but this one because wow all the threats haha!
@DuskLegend
@DuskLegend 10 ай бұрын
@@BlahBohogunI thought life orb sheer force combo was a bug and was patched back in like gen 6
@Nintendofan1389
@Nintendofan1389 Жыл бұрын
Cud chew starf berry is so funny
@beauvogames
@beauvogames Жыл бұрын
Really interesting mini history and Farigiraf strategy, though may I please ask: where did you find that Harvest is 30%? It definitely used to be 50% and to my knowledge it still is, I even Googled Harvest and 30% and I can't find any source saying it's 30%, at least on the main/typical sources that Google churns out.
@foofootoo
@foofootoo Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's 50 not sure where 30 came from either 😅
@lordnatu
@lordnatu Жыл бұрын
Wait fr I was sure it was 30 percent
@beauvogames
@beauvogames Жыл бұрын
@@lordnatu I haven't tried Harvest in this generation, so I can't personally vouch that there hasn't been a drop BUT for previous generations, sources said 50% and I used to use Harvest Tropius with Protect & Roost strats (so you'd get 2 turns to restore your berry) and mathematically this means it should work most of the time and I found this to work. It was rare after two turns to not get my berry back. I definitely would have noticed or suspected something was up if it was only 30%, you'd definitely notice it not working as consistently.
@johnnyp1986
@johnnyp1986 Жыл бұрын
Imagine using cud chew for those berries that do damage to the opponents based on whether they used a physical move or special move on your Pokémon depending on the berry.
@Lumix_Corrupt
@Lumix_Corrupt Жыл бұрын
Lol like a roided up rocky helmet
@brockoffnetjetszz6699
@brockoffnetjetszz6699 Жыл бұрын
Those don’t do much damage for a reason
@johnnyp1986
@johnnyp1986 Жыл бұрын
@@brockoffnetjetszz6699 well, I understand your point but just for the physical berry (Jaboca berry) because your Pokémon could just hold a Rocky Helmet (which does a fraction more damage than the Jaboca berry anyway), but I think the special attack berry (Rowap Berry) has a more unique use as there are no items that deal damage if a Pokémon is hit with a special attack so this berry could have good usage regarding the bugged Cud Chew.
@dany_fg
@dany_fg Жыл бұрын
as a programmer, to me it seems they forgot to put a flag to check if it was activated already or maybe the 'if' statement to check the flag. It's just a few lines of code so it's really weird that they forgot to program it, probably was rushed.
@mateoostorero2223
@mateoostorero2223 Жыл бұрын
What's weird is that on release it worked fine, then it broke on an unrelated patch. Maybe they branched the codebase before release time? And they got a team working on release and a team working in the next patch but with the bugged ability? Idk
@Nintendofan1389
@Nintendofan1389 Жыл бұрын
Yo wait even better use tea time in doubles it forces all pokemon to eat there held berry signature move of polteageist
@foofootoo
@foofootoo Жыл бұрын
Let them cook...
@Nintendofan1389
@Nintendofan1389 Жыл бұрын
@@foofootoo I wish I could but it's patched out
@AdminAbuse
@AdminAbuse Жыл бұрын
Their*
@DerpySuX
@DerpySuX Жыл бұрын
This glitch actually did run pretty rampant for a time on BSS high ladder. Farigiraf w starf cud chew essentially acted as a drawback-less moody. From what I saw people who abused this glitch didn’t go all in on it, but if you managed to get a favorable matchup or even just a lucky roll and starf boosted the right stat, it became ridiculously easy to cheese wins.
@foofootoo
@foofootoo Жыл бұрын
Definitely, since Starf can boost evasion, luck can be everything!
@DerpySuX
@DerpySuX Жыл бұрын
@@foofootoo yeah and my personal stance is, at least in competitive settings, we should minimize the impact of RnG as much as possible, so in that sense I’m very happy this glitch was patched. Personally I never ran into anyone abusing it (though I don’t play on console as much as the rest of the BSS players I talk with), I heard multiple horror stories of people having games that were otherwise on lock robbed by people getting lucky with this.
@demi-femme4821
@demi-femme4821 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, basically turning it into a Moody sweeper with Stored Power and Wish is just asking for a ban in Singles.
@sparkypikachu7776
@sparkypikachu7776 Жыл бұрын
I mean it's exactly cheese tho..
@randomgamer2949
@randomgamer2949 Жыл бұрын
It could be interesting in the Almost Any Ability metagame with kicklee: you can use either the salac berry with bulk up, endure, reversal and knock off/poison jab for fairies, which is basically his unburden set but slighty better. Or and endgame sweeper, with the berry that raises his attack stat, with the same set. If set up properly, it can deliver 200 BP reversal with +2 attack, and can even trade bulk up for rapid spin, to be at +1 speed too.
@opposumness3107
@opposumness3107 Жыл бұрын
Well, Recoil could be viable with Sitrus Berry Cud Chew, since you always have some damage one you. This might need some other setup, since Liechi Berry isn't an option for an itsm slot of you run Sitrus already.
@nomongosinthaworld
@nomongosinthaworld Жыл бұрын
Salac/Leichi Berry + Endure + Reversal with the Tauros’ would be pretty fun
@joeytabora1052
@joeytabora1052 Жыл бұрын
Man, Nintendo really likes no-fun zones, huh? Even if it was supposedly a glitch, I'd argue that the buffed version is actually more in line with the description - you once again ate the berry, and the ability activates upon eating the berry, so it should activate again. If they're gonna keep the nerfed version, the ability description should specify once per battle, or perhaps a better wording would be once per berry, because I imagine that if the ability has been previously activated, but later in the match a berry gets switched into your held item slot, the ability would trigger again if you ate that berry?
@WinEntity
@WinEntity Жыл бұрын
The secret cow/mouse hybrid Pokémon they don't want us to know about: *Cudchu*
@poppyfrancis7338
@poppyfrancis7338 Жыл бұрын
If only Farigiraf got Recycle... Truly infinite berries that doesn't use a bug. Its loke that one appletun set all over again but funnier
@blameitondanny
@blameitondanny Жыл бұрын
I didn't know Cud Chew was buffed until I saw WeedleTwineedle's livestream. I thought it always the same 😅
@foofootoo
@foofootoo Жыл бұрын
They knew Weedle would be too powerful with a tech like this lol
@blameitondanny
@blameitondanny Жыл бұрын
@@foofootoo Most Weedle's tech got dexited so it's not a surprise at this point.
@WeedleTwineedle
@WeedleTwineedle Жыл бұрын
They really waited for me to train up a farigiraf to immediately patch it 😢
@Ylurple
@Ylurple Жыл бұрын
3:07 that's something to berry-n mind 4:32 berry frail
@Sn4il3D
@Sn4il3D Жыл бұрын
Tbh in doubles I seen someone fling a starf berry on espartha holding weakness policy, use protect after that for a speed boost and swept my team 😭
@6poepchinees9
@6poepchinees9 Жыл бұрын
Edit: I'm stupid, but you could still will o wisp in doubles Sitrus berry could work with buffed cud chew if you gave your farigiraf a flame orb
@vaughnrudy8084
@vaughnrudy8084 Жыл бұрын
... how would it hold both a citrus berry and a flame orb
@6poepchinees9
@6poepchinees9 Жыл бұрын
Omg I'm stupid
@quirkyturtl
@quirkyturtl Жыл бұрын
i think a tauros set that utilized a sitrus berry and a move with recoil could be interesting
@Rour_Milotic
@Rour_Milotic Жыл бұрын
This was better than harvest because you cud eat a recovery berry with tauros and a symbiosis partener could swap you a life orb or weaknes policy and you just will cud chew the berry on the next turn while holding another item
@appliedatoms7066
@appliedatoms7066 Жыл бұрын
Here's a question. I presume the random berry would also break the chain if it tried to boost a stat that can't go any higher. That means that if your luck was bad you could end it with maxed accuracy and attack but nothing much useful.
@lordnatu
@lordnatu Жыл бұрын
Starf berry actually works to boost that is not maxed out, so that doesn't matter
@AI-DreigonGPT
@AI-DreigonGPT Жыл бұрын
Farigiraf with the spa boost berry
@Essman614
@Essman614 Жыл бұрын
Could the cud chew chain continue if you switched in and out to force your opponent to damage your chewer?
@TheGrebMagiks
@TheGrebMagiks Жыл бұрын
I had some fun with Cud Chew Farigiraf using Tera Ghost curse with a sitrus berry
@purupurupurin6276
@purupurupurin6276 Жыл бұрын
That honestly gave me an idea of a cud chew double edge pokemon, but it's a damn shame that it got patched out just because game freak woke up and felt silly
@Necromancer4267
@Necromancer4267 Жыл бұрын
Harvest is 50%
@foofootoo
@foofootoo Жыл бұрын
Indeed it is 😬
@treygreypaws3689
@treygreypaws3689 Жыл бұрын
I heard about it, was debating using it with Tauros but it wasnt like harvest. But the glitch/buff made me more curious then it got nerf.
@BluMNBafnGaming
@BluMNBafnGaming Жыл бұрын
Also maybe skill swap cud chew on a poltigiest with the ability weak armor and the petaya berry and use tea time to trigger the berry while at full hp
@BluMNBafnGaming
@BluMNBafnGaming Жыл бұрын
Skill swap cud chew onto a Pokémon like greedunt with belch and that one move that gives it a defence boost when consuming a berry especially with the ether a sitrus liechie or salac berry but could also have gone for maybe a petaya berry ti boost belch even more while also boosting your defences via greedunts signature move that gives defence boosts
@Ry-gt2by
@Ry-gt2by Жыл бұрын
They should add this version of Cud Chew into Hackmon
@coledavidson5630
@coledavidson5630 Жыл бұрын
Does the starf berry give you the same boost every time Cud Chew activates, or random every time?
@obibraxton2232
@obibraxton2232 Жыл бұрын
They did that patch soo quick I didn’t even notice 🤧😳 soo thanks for this wow cud chew missed out on such viability Currently does cud chew not activate again if you use recycle ?
@user-uz2sj4zs7i
@user-uz2sj4zs7i Жыл бұрын
Aww man. Wish this was still in.
@Bitemandog
@Bitemandog Жыл бұрын
i think i played against you on showdown like a day or two ago i played against a salac berry fling into weakness policy farigiraf stored power
@v.i.pflame7607
@v.i.pflame7607 Жыл бұрын
Its crazy that something like shed tail/regenerator is fine for gamefreak, but funny little nibbling nibbling on berrys is a no go.
@dylanbosley4139
@dylanbosley4139 Жыл бұрын
This video definitely passes the cud chew line. Props to anybody who actually gets this reference
@GorillaZilla_1
@GorillaZilla_1 Жыл бұрын
Could you run recycle on Farigaraf?
@thesleepingsteelix2454
@thesleepingsteelix2454 Жыл бұрын
Well considering it was taken away immediately theres a very simple explanation: it was an accidental Bug that they fixed
@Pandachu123
@Pandachu123 Жыл бұрын
Oh, darn it. I wish I could've tried this before it got patched...
@Rour_Milotic
@Rour_Milotic Жыл бұрын
Questio.... if you fling a berry into a cud chew mon, would cud chew activate?
@Nintendofan1389
@Nintendofan1389 Жыл бұрын
Wait right its patched cud chew starf berry tea time would've been so funny
@Eltipoquevisteayer
@Eltipoquevisteayer Жыл бұрын
Cud chew could have worked like activating every 1,2,4,8 times and so on
@jayplay8869
@jayplay8869 Жыл бұрын
The ability to finish a 6v6… that was nerfed…
@mattgach1779
@mattgach1779 Жыл бұрын
1:01 looking like gen 9 randbats
@kidsannd
@kidsannd Жыл бұрын
Ðoes anyone know if trick room work on priority moves like dragon tail? As in the priority of the move will be reversed
@laterferaligatr2947
@laterferaligatr2947 Жыл бұрын
I use Endure Trailblaze bulk up Liechi Berry Aqua breed
@641mamaluigi
@641mamaluigi Жыл бұрын
Who knew eating your own vomit would be so busted in the metagame 😂
@seanfarrow9085
@seanfarrow9085 Жыл бұрын
Weakness berries blocking attacks after protect would be cheese
@akirandrake414
@akirandrake414 Жыл бұрын
I think I know WHY they patched this. If the programming on this wasn't done correctly this could lead to using the berry INFINITELY!
@patoteto2
@patoteto2 Жыл бұрын
Idk if it was a glitch but once I had my Taurus eat it’s berry 3 turns
@foofootoo
@foofootoo Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think it was a glitch with the last version
@shadowkingdom275
@shadowkingdom275 Жыл бұрын
As long as it doesn't break the game in a literal sense
@strhunter666
@strhunter666 Жыл бұрын
cud chew... Gesundheit
@zodiacblue9312
@zodiacblue9312 Жыл бұрын
I like your cud chew
@jordanziegler8376
@jordanziegler8376 Жыл бұрын
You misspelled glitch.
@michaelferrarini1463
@michaelferrarini1463 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion this was needed for raids. It would stay alive forever.
@someonehavinganidentitycrisis
@someonehavinganidentitycrisis Жыл бұрын
Imagine if you went to eat with like a cousin and when you were at home they vomited what they ate.
@BananaReidy
@BananaReidy Жыл бұрын
Harvest is 50% chance not 30
@Eevee007King
@Eevee007King Жыл бұрын
It goes om in om in om
@MewmiNyan
@MewmiNyan Жыл бұрын
they shouldve just kept the buff (or glitch) not because it would be fair but because farigiraf and tauros r cool pokemon and deserve it.
@coledavidson5630
@coledavidson5630 Жыл бұрын
Could have sworn harvest was a 50% chance?
@machoemperorvolcan4846
@machoemperorvolcan4846 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like moody with extra steps lol
@foofootoo
@foofootoo Жыл бұрын
But with no stat drops too and on a pokemon with STAB stored power
@beesus1412
@beesus1412 Жыл бұрын
UNGULATES LET'S GOOOOOO!
@Lagi42800
@Lagi42800 Жыл бұрын
So is it still kinda bad again ?
@foofootoo
@foofootoo Жыл бұрын
Well I would say yes, but in the hands of a good player I'm sure you could have an interesting go at making a team...
@MoCa1979Jr
@MoCa1979Jr Жыл бұрын
Too bad the "Cudchewers" don't learn Recycle & my new move "Burp". Burp would be like the move Belch, except, it's 70 power & 100% accuracy. It'd have a 10%-20% chance to poison & wouldn't be affected by using Recycle, Pickup, or Harvest.
@N3OJOyTOKYO
@N3OJOyTOKYO Жыл бұрын
Harvest is actually 50% and 100%
@o-poppoo5117
@o-poppoo5117 Жыл бұрын
I think it might have been a bug
@foofootoo
@foofootoo Жыл бұрын
Yeah considering the ability description literally says "one more time" it definitely wasn't intended
@abarette_
@abarette_ Жыл бұрын
We just doing random glitches now 'kay I see you game freak
@joeye6556
@joeye6556 Жыл бұрын
thank god, I would've shot myself if another stallmon build became powerful. No worse feeling than getting stalled to death.
@davidpardave6164
@davidpardave6164 Жыл бұрын
Not Foo mansplaining Weedle in a nutshell 😂
@clarkdimond7807
@clarkdimond7807 Жыл бұрын
Cud chew is just a worse ripen and harvest
@foofootoo
@foofootoo Жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty much...
@lyteabhishek
@lyteabhishek Жыл бұрын
Gf did the right thing of nerfing it.
@phullmoon8620
@phullmoon8620 Жыл бұрын
I battled someone that abused this and it was disgusting but they couldn't get passed my gastrodon with clear smog lmaooo, I stalled them and they ended up quitting after another mon came in and gave fargarif another berry it didn't want. Btw f*** costar flamingo, all my homies hate costar
@gbeaver57
@gbeaver57 Жыл бұрын
It was 100% a glitch
@BananaReidy
@BananaReidy Жыл бұрын
Should of kept it
@cj2funny582
@cj2funny582 Жыл бұрын
Thus is just a joke #Gamefreak nerfs and Buff pokemon bcuz they don't like losing to people smarter than them with their Creations.
@sparky6757
@sparky6757 Жыл бұрын
“Secret buff” (literally a bug)
@bplus2625
@bplus2625 Жыл бұрын
The fact that they can patch that so quickly yet we still don't have Home and they do nothing with all the glitchy functions and screen transitions in Raids tells me that they really DGAF about the solo-only and heavy post-game players who spent their hard earned money purchasing this game. It's disappointing. I'm not getting the DLC and I'll probably never buy another Pokemon game on Switch again.
@tjcne8668
@tjcne8668 Жыл бұрын
They may as well remove abilities if they're gonna keep nerfing them... pointless... moxie, libero, battle bond non existent... just pointless
@neo_angelo8240
@neo_angelo8240 Жыл бұрын
Cud chew sucks as its on mostly pokemon without recycle so once its done, thats it. The fact they removed recycle from a lot of berry users is BS, i miss Petaya berry dedenne with parabolic charge, sub, recycle and cheek pouch. This gen has been horrible for nerfs and nerfing stall playstyle. A lot of once viable pokemon are now just useless due to move removal, and we have pokemon that are just too fast and strong that since there isnt much stall anymore, its easy to.steamroll your opponents because every good mon is a glass cannon. This meta has been the most boring and uncreative in any gen. Bring back gen 6! So much variety.
@moonlightmask9638
@moonlightmask9638 Жыл бұрын
Well yea it was over powered lmao
@everydaysniper9390
@everydaysniper9390 10 ай бұрын
not a really a buff or a nerf, thats a bug getting past testers and then getting patched lol, misleading title
@ben_sisko2149
@ben_sisko2149 Жыл бұрын
And they still haven't improved the game's performance hahahaha
@SodaPopBarbecue
@SodaPopBarbecue Жыл бұрын
The reason was because of Stored Power Cud Chew Starf Berry Farigiraf. And it was unintentional on GF's end. You might call it...a GLITCH. Not a buff to be nerfed, a *GLITCH*. Street Fighter 2 Disease is at it again. I swear, people need to stop treating oversights, glitches, bugs & exploits as "buffs" and "Advanced Techniques" to be exploited to win imaginary swag. Nintendo are assholes about intended uses of their games, for sure...but frankly, this being rushed to be a potential exploit like Marth's Grab Reach or Wavedashing is why sometimes, these things need to be fixed. Because they're NOT meant to be there.
@Necromancer4267
@Necromancer4267 Жыл бұрын
Just like how they patched out Sheer Force's Life Orb interaction, right?
@mr.potato
@mr.potato Жыл бұрын
​@@Necromancer4267Sheer Force also has similar interactions against certain abilities, so I think it's deliberate
@TopOfAllWorlds
@TopOfAllWorlds Жыл бұрын
​@@Necromancer4267 sheer force seems deliberate. It also wasn't patched into the game unlike this one was. It also has the advantage of being that way since before patches were a thing.
@Necromancer4267
@Necromancer4267 Жыл бұрын
@@TopOfAllWorlds 1. It was literally stated *not* to have been deliberate, but kept in anyway. 2. It wasn't "patched in", nor was this cud chew interaction "patched in". 3. The ability to patch is meaningless as they kept it the same for 6 generations straight.
@xanv8051
@xanv8051 Жыл бұрын
sub protect combat looks so boring what a game
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