Football but you get MORE points for LOSING
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6 ай бұрынWelcome to TomFM! In today's Football Manager 2024 experiment video we're trying to answer the question What If Football Teams Got More Points For LOSING? We're using FM24 to try and find out!
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@maxinnes8229 6 ай бұрын
Man is really trying to force Lincoln to the prem
@MattAyresOfficial 6 ай бұрын
😅
@TomFM 6 ай бұрын
You caught me 💀
@maxinnes8229 6 ай бұрын
@@TomFMI’m a York fan… looks like we stayed in the conference the whole time… which makes us one the most consistently good teams? Or bad? Idk I’m lost
@rocho9287 6 ай бұрын
don't know. we,re in relegation possibility@@maxinnes8229
@LukeCarey11 6 ай бұрын
Ha ha
@f1peter27 6 ай бұрын
What would really be interesting is the same number of points for a win, draw or loss. Leagues would then be decided on goal difference only.
@Nom_Editz0 3 ай бұрын
Ok
@NLPeditz 3 ай бұрын
Ok
@f1peter27 3 ай бұрын
@@NLPeditzOk
@lucarasic8001 3 ай бұрын
@@f1peter27Ok
@andic648 2 ай бұрын
Nice
@joshuaroberts8101 6 ай бұрын
In this scenario, do managers lose their job for poor league positioning, or keep it with good performances and high player morale?
@amethyphoenix 6 ай бұрын
Likely due to "poor" league positioning because the team is too good and they're getting relegated like crazy
@user-yu7pz1fl4l 6 ай бұрын
I think it would be super cool to be doing this save as a user, where you could play a like inverted side or god awful tactic in the league and then try and do a quad by trying in both domestic cups and in europe.
@TopiiTank 6 ай бұрын
I think a cool experiment would be doing this for 50 years and then flipping it back to normal and seeing how it changes where the teams are in the end.
@spiderextremegamertamonois 6 ай бұрын
I really like this idea but I think it'd be way more interesting if you made a video being the manager of a terrible English team and a brilliant English team (man city probably) going through the season like this. I'm so curious what the board would think if you won every match but got relegated and whether you'd be sacked for losing 10 matches in a row or they'd love you for taking the team to the top of the league. It'd be so chaotic and I'd love to see that. Either way, great video as always, hope you upload the next Saint Etienne video soon!
@danbradford7127 6 ай бұрын
This was incredibly entertaining! Could you do one for draws too?
@woolie118 6 ай бұрын
Love your concepts dude. You are crushing the football manager scene
@MLong87 6 ай бұрын
Would really love to see this across the top few leagues in Europe to see how the Champions League/Europa League changes across that time.
@FozzQuaker 6 ай бұрын
10:20 The Alan Shearer Arena...Newcastle or Blackburn, I'd understand, but Wolverhampton... I love the randomness of new Stadium names in this game
@ava_y0 5 ай бұрын
wait that’s really weird 😭
@3xrstudio 6 ай бұрын
Did you happen to check in about season 3 who was being picked for England? was it the regulars with better abilities or players in the prem?
@diesel9324 6 ай бұрын
Assign the same values for wins and losses but increase the value for draws.
@richie74wells 6 ай бұрын
What if you did the scoring system like in rugby, 4 points for a win plus an extra bonus point for a certain amount of goals scored
@nathanb286 6 ай бұрын
I can’t believe that 10 seasons in, Burnley still weren’t good enough to get relegated from the prem
@fifa8054 6 ай бұрын
Love to see Nantwich town in their battering the fa cup right now !
@Mr_Aviation4555 17 күн бұрын
You get more points if you win. Leverkusen: AHH WHAT THE F*CK MAN?!
@tyler.e7581 6 ай бұрын
the reputation is making me wonder, what would happen if you maxed out a national league teams reputation and see what players they end up signing. could be interesting for a video
@MattAyresOfficial 6 ай бұрын
Your ideas get better and better
@indiw1x 6 ай бұрын
We need the annual Wales sponsor deal video especially because I just saw TNS getting into the cl group stage at 9:50
@TheNakedMike 2 ай бұрын
I need to know about that Aberdeen team. Please do a short.
@Toboloco 6 ай бұрын
Finally Yeovil won something in these sims 😄
@carlosmattessich3883 Ай бұрын
“You get more points for losing” San Marino: *My time has come*
@adzter96 5 ай бұрын
I wonder what happened to the managers, did they get fired for constantly getting relegated or keep their jobs because they kept winning matches?
@patrickayoub7058 6 ай бұрын
Anybody noticed that in season 85 (9:27) Northampton got crowned champions despite finishing 2nd in the PL with 4 points less than Southend? Why's that?
@jonathanroyston-claire9930 6 ай бұрын
Honestly 4 mins in and have such a headache but I’m living for it
@alexanderscalzo98 6 ай бұрын
As a life long Orlando Magic fan I did not expect to see a jersey on an FM KZfaqr. Did you pick it up on vacation?
@CAPlayz 3 ай бұрын
Morecambe is my local club and i love seeing them dominating for the first time
@nobbymorph 3 ай бұрын
That completely did my head in, it is still reeling...
@jasonbutton840 6 ай бұрын
As an Ebbsfleet United fan I've been waiting for a save where the club is mentioned as a major part of the narrative. Can't believe it's this one 😂
@kieranlowcock6905 6 ай бұрын
Try and make every team play the same formation with minimum defenders and mid and loads of attackers, I tried it on Fifa years ago and the results were insane😂😂😂
@Adam-mo7hb 6 ай бұрын
Kiddy is massive! 🤣 fun fact, a Premier League winning captain has played for us, Wes Morgan! On loan in the 02/03 season I believe
@NurDerDolphin 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if a manager gets sacked or not. Since you are losing every game, the board should get impatient and sack you, but how much does the league position matter, because you would be top
@CJApps87 6 ай бұрын
That Kidderminster graph was amazing!
@scottwalker4619 6 ай бұрын
As a Carlisle fan, I see this as an absolute win and think we should petition to FIFA to change to these new laws
@agusganji 6 ай бұрын
Funniest experiment yet, great video 🎉
@rxfiqyx37 6 ай бұрын
just think about this : Pep Guardiola dominated the Premier League winning loads of games, but he gets sacked for not losing enough. Meanwhile, Paul Heckingbottom plays like Prime 2011 Derby but gets hailed a king for winning the prem.
@sycroyoutube 5 ай бұрын
8:31 crazy to see long eaton there, i live near! 😅
@mexicorolls 6 ай бұрын
Do this again and then after say 15-20 years switch it back and see if the top teams can come back!
@16ozClawHammer 4 ай бұрын
'Liverpool are stuck in some kind of weird purgatory'. Long may it continue.
@matthewbless3335 6 ай бұрын
Everton having a top 3 season only for it to result in them being relegated is the most Everton thing ever
@thenameplus431 6 ай бұрын
Come on!!!! Been waiting for this
@fletchergracie3992 3 ай бұрын
Id love to see id you put the points back to normal after 20 years and simulated it
@DuskKaiser 6 ай бұрын
Will you be trying the Worst Database shared on Steam? Although the creator said he needs to fix some things so it works properly
@numchacar 6 ай бұрын
what you should do is sim it 100 years then do another 100 years but reverting it back to 3 points for a win and 0 for a loss and see if any top teams can make it back to top of the prem
@jaydg735 6 ай бұрын
Even with a lose being more rewarding than a win, it’s guts me to see that Birmingham are still in the Championship lol
@freddiewells9922 6 ай бұрын
Definitely one of your best experiments yet 👌🏻
@HCMCDrives 6 ай бұрын
Shame he didn't credit the guy who inspired this with his made database last week.
@MattAyresOfficial 6 ай бұрын
The first season is typical Cheltenham Town
@ollieconnors6578 6 ай бұрын
FOUR STRAIGHT RELEGATIONS, YOU’LL NEVER SING THAT
@blmn201249 6 ай бұрын
If only derby had this in 07/08
@rolef6084 6 ай бұрын
Tottenham getting conference league while getting relegated from the championship is funny af 😂
@rolef6084 6 ай бұрын
Nvm wolves in season 10 ☠️
@blob144 6 ай бұрын
I can imagine the number of coaches getting sacked because of winning and getting relegated😂😂
@Ninja_Aubergine 6 ай бұрын
As a Carlisle fan, 3:04 is something I'd love to see one day!
@luisgalizien 6 ай бұрын
I think that dream will sadly never be real my friend. 😅
@macario8836 6 ай бұрын
You want to see them losing 26 out of 38 matches in a season? I don't think it should be too hard for them right just now!
@FozzQuaker 6 ай бұрын
9:22 Great to see Darlo in the Premier League, even if we are in the top 10 worst teams lol
@Thecoolestmubby 4 ай бұрын
Being a Swindon Town that I've never been more proud 🙂
@CR1LLE710 6 ай бұрын
Theese videos get more interesting every time!
@EuanBCFC 6 ай бұрын
So we (Bristol City) finally do well on an experiment, but it’s because we were so bad we were then able to get to good enough to be relegated? I’m not even shocked
@Connorisgud 6 ай бұрын
Everytime I watch Tom I always check in his videos my home town club altrincham
@SamButler22 6 ай бұрын
Bolton plummeting through the leagues here just proves how good we are?
@TheWolfXCIX 6 ай бұрын
Are you going to do that 20 league nightmare save from Reddit?
@joshjohnson9976 6 ай бұрын
The yo-yo of huddersfield was mad 😂
@englishdragon88 6 ай бұрын
Yay you mentioned my club Crawley Town
@johnboyhowell 6 ай бұрын
FA cup winners would have been interesting to see. Especially in the first 10 years.
@jakovgrbesa6400 6 ай бұрын
9:24 Weston Super Mare in 6th.
@ravenshade266 6 ай бұрын
As a Fleetwood fan, I’m not sure whether I should rejoice or be saddened by the outcome of the experiment.
@silverlining836 3 ай бұрын
10:20 Anyone else notice the Alan Shearer Arena in Wolverhampton?
@kipzonderkop1994 6 ай бұрын
This is essentially making the pyramid upside down but with more steps 😂
@Glethil Ай бұрын
As a Chelsea fan I see this as an absolute win
@danielyavari6623 3 ай бұрын
At 9:25 newcastle is also in premier league not luton and southhampton
@isaacbobjork7053 3 ай бұрын
Imagine how the games would look if you had to lose the games to win the league. Lots of own goals probably
@hugh.g.rection5906 6 ай бұрын
3:27 think something went wrong here. 2nd place crowned as champions
@ashleynewman3360 5 ай бұрын
As a Carlisle fan, I 'like' this.
@AJT-gj6mi 6 ай бұрын
Could do the same points as an Ice Hockey game including extra time
@TheSparty301 4 ай бұрын
I really wanted to see who was winning the FA cup. If good teams were at the lower leagues, were lower leagues winning the cup. On the other hand the best players still want to go to the prem, so maybe the prem still wins. curious
@Schlinx619 6 ай бұрын
That hurt my head.
@FORZAPOTENZA 6 ай бұрын
I think the algorithm for job security for managers would implode with this...
@aidanw9378 6 ай бұрын
0:45 the only way Man U could beat the rest of the big 6
@lostupover 6 ай бұрын
This is just like at my job...the worst performers get promoted :)
@gamerkat99 6 ай бұрын
Make EVERYTHING reward points
@jahames556 5 ай бұрын
Haven’t watched the video yet but I’m a blades fan 🥳
@pankajshahane7909 6 ай бұрын
My mind can’t comprehend all the details 😂
@saoirsedeltufo7436 6 ай бұрын
3:27 Kidderminster came second but are crowned champions??
@Ak93T 6 ай бұрын
The one time Aldershot do well in a simulation... and still get relegated
@fifagoalsmaster 6 ай бұрын
Finally a video where cambridge united make the premier league and champions league ❤
@vijaygarv 3 ай бұрын
Alméria would’ve been invincible for 29 games if this was the rule.
@MovieNationyt 6 ай бұрын
Try doing the experiment with losses first and then wins mafter ten seasons what happens
@TheStuartGibson 6 ай бұрын
I want to know how many managers the champions get? do clubs sack them for losses or do they realise that they are getting points?
@denektelinus7583 6 ай бұрын
Can you do THE same with all of THE other leagues
@DynoKea 6 ай бұрын
2:22 Spurs going to Europe and L1 3:24 Spurs going to Europe and L2
@shanelenham8736 6 ай бұрын
How Did Kidderminster Win the title in 2nd? 🤔
@Driftty 6 ай бұрын
Alternative title: what would happen if the best league was the national league
@loonielee9334 6 ай бұрын
Great to see my local Carlisle winning…. Ermmm losing the prem ?😮😂
@JN1. 3 ай бұрын
Alan shearer arena in wolves😂
@N0rmalD1ff1cultyFace Ай бұрын
5:35 burnley 💀 7:08 ikeston 10 points 40 losses
@darliebb 6 ай бұрын
Oxford City winning/losing the premier league. Love it 😊
@nnspenaz2343 2 ай бұрын
Never did I think I would be disappointed to hear Northampton in the championship
@AshManTV92 6 ай бұрын
03:26 how come 2nd place Kiddy are champions?
@azizul1975 Ай бұрын
lol this is chaotic....
@COYG4949 3 ай бұрын
As a arsenal fan and Kidderminster fan idk how to feel
@mateuszstepniewski5954 6 ай бұрын
Quality video as always but, i dont like it because the fact that the winners get relegated is just hurting my head😂😂
@Founder_YT 6 ай бұрын
The first time fm doesnt completely ruin swindon is when the points are flipped...