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Football's 12th Man Podcast

Football's 12th Man Podcast

23 күн бұрын

Welcome to Footballs 12th Man Podcast, providing content across all premier league football teams with influencers from each club!
Brought to you by your host Dan Potts @danarsenal87 we will cover the title, top 4 race, battle for European football, relegation fights and all those in-between!
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@footballs12thman
@footballs12thman 20 күн бұрын
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@limafc8565
@limafc8565 21 күн бұрын
Liverpool have experienced players who've been there in big PRESSURE games. Arsenal didnt. They're both equals in terms having the advantage & crumbling. I'd even say Liverpool edges as being worse cause of the EXPERIENCE & Klopp. Arteta won't be bottling a 5 point lead in his 9th year when players would have been there and done it on every stage under pressure. Put it that way😂. Liverpool are finished under the greatest manager they've had in prem. Arsenal are on the rise under Arteta. When pep has left city. Arsenal will take the throne. I believe they can anyway with pep at city. It's a fight to death from now on every season. Arteta is The Chosen One & I said that from day 1. COYG.🙏.
@BCKZLDN
@BCKZLDN 21 күн бұрын
I love how LB tried to claim he knows ball but has some of the worst takes out of everyone. Still moaning about Arsenal parking the bus at the Etihad but he deffo wasn’t saying that the last few seasons when we couldn’t even draw against them. As for Lawless, makes me laugh but his Arsenal agenda is actually insane.
@csandsoccer4660
@csandsoccer4660 20 күн бұрын
I can’t believe we’re actually getting criticized for winning home and drawing away against both our title challengers… LB and Lawless just close your pie holes for goodness sake
@csandsoccer4660
@csandsoccer4660 21 күн бұрын
Actually a bit sad that Lawless’s days on this show are now numbered 😭😂
@dlaldlaldlanutsntnstn1418
@dlaldlaldlanutsntnstn1418 21 күн бұрын
The whole panel "Arsenal fans this Arsenal fans that" they just take something they see one fan saying and apply it to all of us. You could do this with any fan group and make them look irrational and stupid. For some reason its just accepted that its alright to do that with us and it becomes a narrative. "Arsenal fans are the biggest flipflops" You mean some fans had mad opinions and then you read comments from some others that had a more level headed take? It makes no sense to judge a group of people like this, unless you get your views on a fan base from one person, of course its going to be inconsistent, because people have different opinions. This just a dumb way to assess anything. This is just nonsense anti Arsenal propaganda and idk why its just accepted that people talk about us like this. Lawless is the biggest culprit for this, and I don't think he even knows he's doing it, he has a massive bee in his bonnet for hating Arsenal fans. Tomato head
@vijayprabhu4198
@vijayprabhu4198 21 күн бұрын
Preach
@Ayodeji_01
@Ayodeji_01 21 күн бұрын
And the supposed Arsenal fan on the shows just allow them a free run at their agendas. I liked the way Dan Potts actually rebuffed LB from saying playing not to lose at Empty-ad is what might kill Arsenal title hopes. The same ground Liverpool never won at during their title races together. Pep is just the sole person responsible for city’s retained success but not everyone realizes that now.
@hbkgunner
@hbkgunner 20 күн бұрын
Facts brother
@saintmzobe1749
@saintmzobe1749 21 күн бұрын
" The players have let Klopp down " but Arteta doesn't know how to get it over line and should Go - Dan Potts
@canonsanarmz2103
@canonsanarmz2103 21 күн бұрын
Its called trying to make friends 😂😂😂
@charlesemordi9038
@charlesemordi9038 21 күн бұрын
Talking thrash @Dan. He doesn't know how to maintain a point in my view. Liverpool bottled the league just like Arsenal did. It doesn't matter if we are 2 or 3 teams. This is because, they passed Arsenal with 5 points and for Arsenal to be leading them with 10 points then they bottled it. If this happened to Arsenal, all the press and people here will not leave the point that we bottled it.
@canonsanarmz2103
@canonsanarmz2103 21 күн бұрын
All i heard from liverpool fans the hole season is we been there before arsenal dont have winners we got salah klopp van dijk jota and now poor old liverpool over achieved 😂😂😂😂pack it in mate
@dlaldlaldlanutsntnstn1418
@dlaldlaldlanutsntnstn1418 21 күн бұрын
Dan can you just think about what you're saying, I worry that people will actually start listening to you and your Arteta out agenda. You realise we're up against Gaurdiola right? Not only that but a team that was assembled by cheating. The fact we've even been in the position to beat them twice in a row should tell you that what Arteta has done is beyond astounding, losing out the best coach with a financially doped team isn't failure, if City hadn't cheated we'd have won it twice in a row by now. We WILL win the league, whether its this season or the next. And as soon as either city are charged or Pep leaves, Arteta will dominate this league. I'm not saying we can only win it if that happens, but it becomes a foregone conclusion in that case. So please just have a think.
@Ayodeji_01
@Ayodeji_01 21 күн бұрын
You are reasoning with Dan ? 😂😂😂 I am more disappointed in you 😂😂😂 These lots are doing this for the money 💴
@kismagunner2675
@kismagunner2675 21 күн бұрын
Lawless thinks Zuma is better than Saliba in his head
@keaghanhenry4407
@keaghanhenry4407 21 күн бұрын
Dan really irritates & annoy me & i'm an Arsenal fan, how can you say Arsenal bottled the league last season when no one expected Arsenal to challenge for the league, but Liverpool is over achieving this season but we all expected Liverpool to Challenge for the league, how does that makes sense?
@scott503
@scott503 21 күн бұрын
You had a 92% chance of winning the title last season. You bottled it. Simple.
@VARReview96
@VARReview96 21 күн бұрын
Yeah that was a proper bottle job last year
@ImFlxqq
@ImFlxqq 21 күн бұрын
@@scott50392% chance? Are you thick?
@keaghanhenry4407
@keaghanhenry4407 21 күн бұрын
@@scott503 don't shift the goal post when it's Liverpool, they bottled the league simple as that
@hashgnome9326
@hashgnome9326 21 күн бұрын
I'm an Arsenal fan of over 30 years and that was an epic bottle job this season. If Arsenal lose the league on goal difference or by a point or so this season you can't say it's a bottle job but you can raise the question if Arteta is actually good enough to cross that fine line or not. If he isn't he needs to go.
@AUGooner
@AUGooner 21 күн бұрын
Everyone's prediction is City to win the league but Arsenal are "bottlers" if they don't win the league. Big up Pottsy, keep the faith.
@johnfraser1623
@johnfraser1623 21 күн бұрын
Arsenal bottled it against Unai Emery and a half of Aston Villa squad twice this season, those 6pts made sure spurs don’t get top 4 though so we’ll done
@liontradingLdn
@liontradingLdn 21 күн бұрын
Not bOtTleRs all these Internet virgin nerds rinse the word like some bandwagon sheep LIVERPOOL REALLY BOTTLED THE LEAGUE AND HAVE SONFOR YEARS PPL ARE DUMB LOL
@swedishgooner6339
@swedishgooner6339 20 күн бұрын
It’s a self defense mechanism.. Other fans are scared shitless about what Arsenal have become. Not built for a year of glory but built solid from the ground up. Arsenal are in it for years to come. All they have is banter to draw focus from their own clubs shambolic future.
@swedishgooner6339
@swedishgooner6339 20 күн бұрын
@@johnfraser1623 Were the points dropped against Villa more worth than the loss at Fulham? Westham? Or Newcastle?
@johnfraser1623
@johnfraser1623 20 күн бұрын
@@swedishgooner6339 well it was the significance of loosing while it was all in your hands, loosing to Unai with half a fit squad arteta was sure you would win, Villa taking maximum pts against you this season, and basically handing the trophy to Man City, so yeh the 3pts were worth more while you were top.
@marcus8030
@marcus8030 21 күн бұрын
I want Arsenal to win the league and the City game debate is completely accurate. How they approach that game and celebrated that draw showed me Arsenal ain’t ready yet
@Ayodeji_01
@Ayodeji_01 21 күн бұрын
Yea right. Like we were ready last season going gong hole and ending up getting slapped because pep played a different way which was unusual of him. We had the better chances in the game this year but didn’t make them count. Not making the chances count was what I was disappointed with but very happy with the way arteta adapted his tactics.
@marcus8030
@marcus8030 21 күн бұрын
@@Ayodeji_01 Nah pro this season you have their number but when it mattered Arteta wasn’t brave enough. If you had beat them you would beat Bayern and Villa as well. It shows you guys have forgotten what it takes to win the league
@dalecarriger8938
@dalecarriger8938 21 күн бұрын
It’s possible. West Ham drew against Man City Match Week 37 in 2021/22. Man City win it and they clinch league. Needed OG to tie. Even missed penalty in 86 minute.
@hermenpdarocha1146
@hermenpdarocha1146 21 күн бұрын
Jesús as a winger, for Martinelli or Saka, Trossard as a striker, for Havertz.
@ryanc9754
@ryanc9754 21 күн бұрын
I love how jealous Dan is of villa, utd are a shambles 3 games to go and can't catch villa in 4th. I'd love villa and Newcastle to party crash the top 4. Chelsea , utd and possibly Liverpool will be in transition. Spurs unless ange finds a plan b will be aiming top 6 not top 4.
@dlaldlaldlanutsntnstn1418
@dlaldlaldlanutsntnstn1418 21 күн бұрын
Does LB not realise that City have to win every game as well?
@liontradingLdn
@liontradingLdn 20 күн бұрын
THEY WONT WATCH
@csandsoccer4660
@csandsoccer4660 20 күн бұрын
Why is Dan United giving Billy no breathing space recently 😂😂
@hermenpdarocha1146
@hermenpdarocha1146 21 күн бұрын
Gents in the Premier League any football team can beat you on any given day.
@hermenpdarocha1146
@hermenpdarocha1146 21 күн бұрын
Arsenal are not yet fully prepared for Man City.
@deecunningham9719
@deecunningham9719 21 күн бұрын
Sometimes these convos are just funny because it just shows the mindset of the fans.... and their agendas.
@limafc8565
@limafc8565 20 күн бұрын
Villa have taken Chelsea place in Big 6 for me.
@TrevorFrancis-op5ei
@TrevorFrancis-op5ei 20 күн бұрын
No Maz. Brighton must have lost again
@thegloryhunter3118
@thegloryhunter3118 21 күн бұрын
Injuries are one excuse no team can keep repeating. Many teams have had a Shit load on injuries this season except maybe Arsenal
@liontradingLdn
@liontradingLdn 21 күн бұрын
Arsenal had injuries are you smoking buuj ..that's a lame excuse anyway
@marcus8030
@marcus8030 21 күн бұрын
It comes across like Billy supported Arsenal when Villa got relegated. Why is he always defending Arsenal?
@23293
@23293 21 күн бұрын
Black guy with scouse accent? 😂😂 wow as a black guy myself this is new!
@dipo3131
@dipo3131 21 күн бұрын
Whys the surprising? Where u born determines ur accent not the color of ur skin, u act like u have never seen Trent speak
@csandsoccer4660
@csandsoccer4660 20 күн бұрын
Ok LB you srsly have to stop poking at whether our decision to go for a draw at the Etihad was right or not. Basically, we went for the method that had a higher chance of eventual success at the time. There’s just no arguing that. Whenever we went there and tried to actually go for it, we always crumbled as you know. Yes we may be much better this season but the risk of losing that game was too big and considering our history there as I just explained, you can’t say our approach was wrong. And yeah City might be a little off compared to last season, but they’re still a very good team. And in case you forgot, we actually had chances to score in that game, more than how many you had actually iirc. So it’s not like we were 100% just defending in that game. Finally, we didn’t HAVE to win that game, you HAD to. I’m not so sure going gung ho against City in that situation, at their gaff might I add, is a wise thing to do.
@ChelsLoveCOYB
@ChelsLoveCOYB 20 күн бұрын
Potts grow a pair and defend your team (this is coming from a Chels fan btw)
@user-lx5qn5vm4w
@user-lx5qn5vm4w 20 күн бұрын
Respect mate, he's a know can I ask you. If arsenal were to do something stupid and sack arteta, would u be happy for chelsea to make a move for him?
@ChelsLoveCOYB
@ChelsLoveCOYB 20 күн бұрын
@@user-lx5qn5vm4w Yes. He's an elite manager in the making. Hurts to say but can't deny it anymore
@user-lx5qn5vm4w
@user-lx5qn5vm4w 20 күн бұрын
@@ChelsLoveCOYB exactly, my point. If it doesn't happen this year it will happen next year I can feel it. He's working wonders kai Harvertz its a different player
@HawkinsFamily
@HawkinsFamily 21 күн бұрын
Why won’t lawless be on the show. It’s called race for Europe. Even if West Ham come 8th they are still in a race next year. If we are top half .
@Whyvex123
@Whyvex123 20 күн бұрын
The show is for teams in Europe that season
@johnm506
@johnm506 21 күн бұрын
Fair play to Arsenal played well and you have the bragging rights. But you know in your heart you were absolutely bricking it for the last ten minutes because you’re a goal away from disaster after being in control. If you say different your liars.
@GoonerRidz
@GoonerRidz 21 күн бұрын
So ? 😂 we still left with the 3 points and we move 🤷🏽‍♂️
@johnm506
@johnm506 21 күн бұрын
@@GoonerRidz I didn’t argue that did I read it and for all those three points you’re still going to bottle it again. City won’t lose again trust me and do you seriously think Tottenham are going to help you 😂😂 Funny screwed over by Tottenham and Harry Kane once again 😂😂
@tjjets3130
@tjjets3130 21 күн бұрын
@@johnm506remember this…. If you tale anything from city, and we win this damn league😂😂 lets see
@SuperMikelArteta
@SuperMikelArteta 21 күн бұрын
​@@johnm506so is that a trophy? Enjoy putting pressure on Arsenal for last 10 mins trophy 🏆 small club mentality and fans like you are to blame as well. Standards in the mud starting with fans
@ImFlxqq
@ImFlxqq 21 күн бұрын
@@johnm506Our league record in 2024 is 13-1-1 😂 You can’t use the word bottle for everything bro it’s boring and disingenuous. If city win it from here on forth it’s because they’re just too good. We can accept that, last season was bottled but not this one.
@njdbrasil6
@njdbrasil6 20 күн бұрын
Lb says spurs will lose because we play football now. And only beat them in the past because of parking the bus. But Arsenal were fools for parking the bus and not opening up. Sounds like we is salty and wanted aresenal to open up so Cuty could cut them open
@limafc8565
@limafc8565 20 күн бұрын
Errol backs arsenal harder than potts
@gmstarz9087
@gmstarz9087 21 күн бұрын
This guys are goofy as hell havertz was terrible at the beginning of the season everyone every single person with eyes saw that then he’s improved then they surprised that ppl will start getting behind him more looooool football has turned to a cretins lair when it comes to football conversation 😂 comparing city and Chelsea spending because we spent 65 on havertz 😂meanwhile there’s hundred mill caiciedo enzo mudryk Anthony sancho plenty players worst off that don’t get this energy is weird and forced
@limafc8565
@limafc8565 20 күн бұрын
Lawless wants to be arsenal soooo bad deep down. Envious brat
@johnfraser1623
@johnfraser1623 21 күн бұрын
Aston Villa made your lot leave your stadium, Unai Emery 6pts against arsna, who cares about spurs, arsenal are the same runners up merchants, both loose in finals, both bottle the league, only difference is spurs need a dog,
@corybrown416
@corybrown416 20 күн бұрын
Unless you’re a Man City fan, shhhh! 🤫
@johnfraser1623
@johnfraser1623 20 күн бұрын
@@corybrown416 why? You haven’t won anything but will qualify for CL Villa might win something and qualify for CL, only difference is it’s Unai’s first season and he hasn’t spent £700m
@corybrown416
@corybrown416 20 күн бұрын
@@johnfraser1623Mate, you’re embarrassing. We’re fighting for a league title and you’re fighting for a third rate European cup a, stop trying to flex. Props to you for beating us this season but we’ve comprehensively beaten you on a regular basis for years and years. This season was an anomaly, it won’t be happening next season.
@johnfraser1623
@johnfraser1623 20 күн бұрын
@@corybrown416 you finished in the top 4 once since 2016, arteta has spent 700m alone, what phase is this? Because this is Unai’s first full season after taking us from 17th to 7th last season, barley spending any money and having half the squad out injured, making it to a European semi final first time of asking, so what if it’s 3rd tier you’d love that trophy in your cabinet, we saw how you guys celebrate the community plate, you’ve never won the big European trophy so I would stop talking about ranking your trophies, because your cabinet is in the rubble of Highbury, Majority of your legends left to go and win the big trophies, including your darling Henry, so if you’re such a big club, why didn’t they stay and try and win something with you, the same will be said for saliba and saka who Unai bought through may I add along with martinelli,
@corybrown416
@corybrown416 20 күн бұрын
@@johnfraser1623 You’re a mid level team, who have just had a lucky season, with a manager we rejected. The only reason you are where you are this season is because Tottenham, Man U, Chelsea and Newcastle have been terrible, otherwise you’d be fighting it out with West Ham and Brighton etc for a third tier European competition. Don’t worry about our European heritage and I won’t worry about your lack of trophies overall. No one but mid level teams cares about that bullshit cup, we would be embarrassed to be in that competition and you struggled to get through the last round but are bragging like you’re European winning veterans, shameless 🤡 Talking about us in the past like your team hasn’t been absolutely shit for years, you’ve been relegated in the past 10 years and struggled to come back up and even then you were saved and at the last minute from going down again. We might of lost big players previously but that didn’t stop us from slapping you up on a regularly basis. No matter how much you want to try and act like a big boy, the facts are is that you’re small fry and you’ll be back to where you belong next season. Also, the fact that you tried to lie by confidently stating our fans celebrated winning the charity shield like we’re some success starved fans is desperate and pathetic!
@hermenpdarocha1146
@hermenpdarocha1146 21 күн бұрын
We all know Man City is the best Team in the Country so let's be real.
@RossDC25
@RossDC25 20 күн бұрын
Lawless is so hard to listen to, he chats so much shit it’s unreal, he talks about arsenal fans like he knows every arsenal fan in the world.
@hashgnome9326
@hashgnome9326 21 күн бұрын
It could take Arteta 20 years to win the league and fans would justify it all saying "See? The process worked!" Its a constant bait and switch and moving of the goalposts. So long as we "compete" this fanbase are happy. Fanbase constantly getting gaslit for wanting more than just competing. Not realising that its very fine line between crossing the line and not. Man City fans loved Mancini and were pissed when he left. But they got Pep after Pelligrini and the rest is history. Sometimes you have to make the hard calls.
@franklinmbeans
@franklinmbeans 21 күн бұрын
Agreed. Issue is that there are no givens. What manager could come in and guarantee a PL victory? Not even Pep won them all, not even the legendary Klopp could win the league more than once with one of the best teams in history at the time. Sadly Arteta will not stay 20 years at Arsenal no matter how it goes. But you can be sure that City won't wait to snatch him and keep winning the PL's under Arteta. Enjoy that we have what could be a generational manager - yes he's has alot to learn just like all the legends had to do. Going back to "proven winners" from other times in football is stupid. As a fan I'm just enjoying the ride - the two past seasons have been the best I can remember - let's see if we can take it all the way!
@hashgnome9326
@hashgnome9326 21 күн бұрын
@@franklinmbeans it's true that very few managers (if any) can guarantee a league title but the fact remains Arteta has had 2 bites of the cherry and has failed both times to win the league (providing he doesn't win the league this season which I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say he won't.) Which ultimately raises the question: How long to wait until you give someone else another shot? It's more hope and excuses from Arsenal fans that they will win something major under Arteta more than anything else. 5 years and 700 million spent just to be happy "competing" and getting top 4 each season is a pathetic standard. He has built a decent first xi (he is actually terrible at building a bench or full squad) so the tools are there for someone else to come in and get them over the line if he can't. And as for the answer who else would you get? You could get an experienced manager who has won things or go with another novice like Xabi Alonso (the guy Arsenal fans wish Arteta was.)
@Westchesterlad
@Westchesterlad 21 күн бұрын
I get what you’re saying but Arsenal gotta stick with Arteta. He’s got you back challenging and ultimately he’s up against an oil nation with one of the greatest managers ever. Arsenal will only get better and he’s acknowledged they have to be ruthless in their approach going forward. Remember, Jurgen Klopp only won one premiership vs City during Covid. Keep the faith 🙏
@franklinmbeans
@franklinmbeans 20 күн бұрын
@@hashgnome9326 I get you, and I might be delusional but I think it's way too early to dismiss him, title or not this year. We have a team full of youngsters that are doing these things for the first time, just as Arteta. The "get someone that has already done it" is an argument I dislike. 1. Because of fandom- I dont want a chelsea legend coming and get us a title then fuck off and let us rot for seasons and seasons (see every team that got Mourinho to get the deal done). 2. The real reason: NO ONE has done it until they done it. Every legend didnt win it until they won it. I hope that Arteta and this team can win it, I dont think there is an infitine wait-time for him to do it. Still, for me it's too early to kick him. Too many leaps are happening in every season so to call this "happy competing" as if we are in some "4th place is the throphy"-mindset is just dishonest. I dont understand the hate arsenalfans have for Arteta. I can only see it as personal agenda. When ALL the pundits abuse him, to me, that's the real sign that he and the team are doing great things and they can see it. They are afraid. May the thropies come so we can unite the fanbase once and for all
@BoiledMilkSteak7
@BoiledMilkSteak7 21 күн бұрын
Donna potts is his mom? I thought it was his wife
@wafffletv
@wafffletv 21 күн бұрын
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