And the Breen's body language was like...What the F%$@k.

It definitely shouldn't come as a surprise, I mean, Founders see themselves as gods, exterminating a whole race is all in a day's work for people like her.

she simply honored what she said to Garak a few years back mentioning Cardassia is dead.

“They’re all dead. You’re dead. Cardassia is dead. You’re people were doomed the moment they attacked us!” She did warn us of Cardassia’s fate after Tain tried to destroy The Founders’ home world

@@granudisimo I don't think they ever saw themselves as gods. They were simply doing what was in their nature: what you control cannot hurt you. They engineered the jem'hadar and vorta to see them as gods, that way, they will never turn on them.

The Founders operated out of a sense of intense racial insecurity, believing - irrationally - that other species, unless completely controlled, would one day hurt them. It is out of this persistent neuroticism that they irrationally decided that defiance is worthy of a planet-wide and unending plague, and betrayal is worthy of genocide. The Founders saw all encounters through the lens of their persecuted ancestors, so that, even at the height of their power, mercilessly bludgeoning peaceful neighbors appears, to them, to be justified self-defense. The stories of their persecuted ancestors also came off as hollow, as if their collective consciousness reinvented their past to justify their actions.

Breen: "I'm starting to think we backed the wrong horse..."

He’s thinking “Oh shit, I hope the Breen don’t rebel!!”

@@SirCraigius It's okay. The Breen well into a wormhole and became Swedish meatballs in the Babylon 5 universe.

The Breen Leader went back to his ship after this scene. He told the Founder that his men need him to help fight off the approaching Federation, Klingon, and Romulan fleet. This was probably an excuse to avoid either being killed by The Founder after hearing her say she wants the Cardassian exterminated (This seems to show that the Breen may be xenophobic but they are not genocidal.) or being captured by Kira, Garak.

Maybe he thoight they could be next.

I don't think it was a ruthless factor Weyoun had no problem with the order of execution of countless Cardassians it was Weyoun's suggestion to destroy Lakarian City and afterward claim they would destroy another city for Every Act of sabotage. Weyoun seemed more physically shocked by the difficulty of the logistics of planetary genocide and how difficult it would be to carry it out.

@@damirbabic8168 Weyoun was promised control of Cardassia so he doesn’t want it destroyed.

​@@CarterWills1Weyoun was also promised control of Earth. His suggestion was to eradicate its population to prevent any organized resistance. Gul Duka was the one against that idea. Also when Gul Duka hallucinates imagines Weyoun. Weyoun says that the Dominion would have long ago destroyed Bajor. Gul Duka was the main villain of the story and he was less evil than the founders. Weyoun has no ability to understand right from wrong and just simply does what the founders want. This was a person who would order people to be executed without a second thought, who would send countless Cardassians to die of pointless battle. didn't understand why the Federation would spend time looking for its missing people. give away Cardassian territory to the Breen. the only Weyoun that had any ability to understand right from wrong with the defective clone, Weyoun 6

That, or the Dominion had rarely commited genocide until the current war. They probably didn't have to.

​@@tompearce5418The Dominion's idea of first contact involved mass murder and practically laughing about it. I don't think this was their first genocide rodeo.

Not really but Garak kept his unspoken word

Not really. She is dividing her forces at a crucial moment. She should of waited till the battle was won before ordering the execution.

@@Gothic7876 the battle is lost, the war is lost. She knows that. this is about making a pile of dead so high there is no winner. Not the Cardassians, not the Federation, not the Klingons, not the Romulans, not the Breen, not the Dominion. If she had the resources to trigger a Supernova the second the allied fleet dropped out of warp, she would.

The 3 powers. Cardassians are like the Breen or tholians or Ferengi. Second tier powers at best.

@@unc0mm0n2 no at this point in time they are still considered one of the 4 powers, its after the war that all of them excluding the Federation drop in power projection.

.........and some died with honor 💯💯💯

@@unc0mm0n2 they are officially considered on there tier although I honestly don’t know why. I mean the Breen are definitely stronger than them and there always ignored in the balance of power. Maybe its was never actually a definitive ranking but rather powers that threaten the federation which would make the Cardassians one of them and the Breen not one of them. After the Dominion war the Cardassians are basically non existent however.

Or as they call it on Sesame Street, COOPERATION!! :D

Even some of the FX from 1980s TNG holds up really well

Haha yeah I saw that head twitch. "Well this is a new development."

I like to believe that’s when the Breen told his troops: “we are getting out of here, wait for it” lol That’s what they did in the books.

hehe I've watched this scene countless times but never picked up on that!

@@Wicked_Sushi It’s the little head twitch and he looks at Weyoun. He realises who the Breen have actually allied with.

Yeah the lack of a Cardassian fleet commander in the communications was a real missed opportunity.

Yeah, I would have loved to see Gul Evek (a nice bookend for the series) or Gul Madred one last time, commanding the Cardassian fleet as they switched sides.

@@sephservant There's no way Madred would be commanding part of the fleet, he's in the intelligence and interrogation game. He might've even been killed with the Obsidian Order attack on the gamma quadrant. But Evek would've been cool.

@@antourte1 The real throwback would've been Gul Macet.

@@ComradePhoenix Haha. Maybe he was demoted because for the first few years of the war, everytime they received orders from the Gul in Command, all he could hear was a strange buzzing noise...

Natural born leader who spent most of his life as a follower.

How can one show have so many based villains?

As far as I know, the breen were the only enemies ever that were successful in breaching earths defenses.

@@rotyler2177 And the Borg

Haha that's a great detail

Broca: Aw, sheeeit, man! You got me. I'm not even married.

​​@@Jarumo76Well done! Few people would recognise him from the original Arnold Schwarzenegger film Total Recall.

Damar: Start the reactor. Free Cardassia

Exactly, even that Breen was "wait, what?".

Throughout the war the Dominion was upgrading the subpar systems of the Cardassian fleet with better power plants, shields, and weapons. BOY did it bite them in the ass 🤣

On top of that the cardasians know the weaknesses of the dominion ships.

Before the federation started to upgrade its ships to defend against the Borg, it seems to me that the cardassians had the advantage in raw power. They just couldn’t keep up as their empire was in decline.

The Cardassians made up for their inferior tech with good tactics notice how the Cardassians all throughout the show keep their ships in tight formations ready to support one another not to mention their intelligence gathering would give them an edge in combat.They'd prob have intel on enemy fleet deployments and supply line, ship weak spots etc.

The Cardassians upgraded their ships. Dominion tech allowed them to solve a few problems. In an earlier episode, the one in which Kor dies a glorious death, we see Galor Class Cruisers one-shot kill Klingon BoPs. In "Sacrifice of Angels" we see that even their secondary disruptors are much stronger as they are easily destroying Federation fighters with a single shot when before the War they had to hit a Maquis fighter several times to destroy them. Their primary Spiral Wave Disruptor cannon is by the mid-point of the War equivalent of a Type XII heavy phaser found on starbases like DS9 and on the Sovereign Class.

Not necessarily. In the end, she and the Founders won because they got Odo to go back voluntarily. Originally she mentioned trading the entire alpha quadrant if it meant just getting Odo to go back to the great link. If Damar's assault team didn't get the opportunity to get into the compound, that outcome may never have happened.

Hilarious!🤣🤣🤣

Actually she told Garak her plans years before. The Cardassians struck the 1st blow and she told him he was dead and cardassia was dead from the moment they attached the founder homeworld.

She was suffering from a painful disease and bogged down in a war she'd expected to last a few weeks at most.

@@tompearce5418 So basically, she was dying and just wanted to take the rest of the Alpha Quadrant down with her? How petty.

@@samsticka That's exactly what she wanted. She says as much after she's captured. She felt she had nothing left to fight for but vengeance and death.

@@jerodast That just reinforces what I said about her being petty.

Funny that ..I thought the same thing years ago.

To die for a noble cause, standing proud...

Kira was hard core like that. A friend of mine was in a writing class in college. She asked the professor for ideas on strong female characters. He said watch DS9 and look at Major Kira.

Being faced with the firing squad and still having the "just do it" face on. She's darn brave.

Was he Benny in TR?

@@adamdaunais5403 yeah, that's him.

I thought it was four.

"Shit man ya got me, I ain't even married"

He's gonna get typecast as a traitor.

Me too. But, the Cardassians did not escape genocide, they had over 800 million dead.

Probably because the Cardassians had been so destroyed by the Dominion War they forever were educed to being irrelevant.

I always assumed they joined the Federation.

@@nicholai40 True, millions dead & billions suffered by the hands of the Dominion.

@@specialnewb9821 They very likely did, so would Bajor and even the Klingons do in the 25th. Sounds like with the Federation controlling almost all of the Beta and Alpah Quadrants in the following centuries, I wonder if they would ever control all four?

I could not stop laughing, good catch LOL!!!!!

That what Dukat said to Weyoun to convince him not to wipe out Earth because the founders just straight out destroyed planets for opposing them.

@@Tms0211 Yup. The Founders aren't egomaniacs like Dukat and most Cardassians, just a bad combination of extremely brutal and insecure.

Free snow cones for the Alpha and Beta Quadrants forever.

@@erentheca and functioning McDonald's Ice Cream Machines... Lol 🤣

They stopped their warlike nature and were not allowed to field a military for years. In that time, the Breen became known for making quality civilian starships and viewscreens. They also became renowned for creating a form of holosuite entertainment known in the Federation as Breenamation and was later shortened to Breenime once it became really popular among teens all across the quadrant.

@@Zero8880 This cracked me up, thank you :D

@@Zero8880 Americans make most former blood enemies besties years down the road. Why stop in the 24th century? lol

The teck is there it,s called AI upskaling 🖖

He ain't even married...

This countries greatest foe is its own govt. And the only people left not believe that are those who still virtue signal with their masks on.

"They switched sides."

It actually did a pretty good evasive move.

I'd be more worried serving on an Akira class or a Klingon Bird of Prey. Operation Return: 3 Mirandas, 1 Steamrunner, 3 Birds of Prey Chin'toka: 1 Miranda, 2 Excelsiors, 2 Akiras, 3 Birds of Prey, 2 Romulan Warbirds, 3 Vor'chas. Chin'toka: well the entire fleet. Cardassia: too many repeat scenes.

I think you mean friend not fiend. Lol

I doubt it, the bajorans may consider it poetic justice what happened to the cardassians

@Brad Grant They maybe more related as they close to each other. Remember most humanoids are related in star trek.

My Mother, The Fiend

@@B1izzardHawk Do I hear the wise words of General Martok in your voice :)

Wait that's the same actor? I love Total Recall

@@Sean12248 Which is funny because the Gul Dukat actor plays the chief Martian security officer.

@@Damar158 I was watching tje original Total Recall last month and when the actor who plays Dukat spoke I knew instantly who it was

Ronnie Cox, who played Captain Jellico in TNG was also in 'Total Recall', as was the actress who played Ensign Sonya Gomez on TNG (woman with 3 breasts) .

@@Damar158 Marc Alaimo

It's a little unclear if they were both firing or just the one. (The first one may have turned to prepare to fire again while the second one joined in a little more quickly, but was obscured.) I like to assume he was joining in, so the Jem'hadar was just like "crap, traitorous Cardies" and shot the guy closer to him as fast as possible.

My guess is they’re normal humanoid but wear the suits due to a xenophobic and isolationist mentality that keeps them motivated to limit any and all information from reaching their people and vice versa

The word psychopath gets thrown around a lot as a catch all term for very bad behavior. The reality is evil is banal and they have found that perfectly normal people can do the most insanely wicked things in the right circumstances eg unlimited power. In actual fact psychopathy is a particular personality disorder the changeling here shows love for Odo, psychopaths don't typically do that.

@@Parasmunt Yes, in the way that a supremacist expresses "love" for their own kind. I agree that by changeling standards, genocide of 'solids' is perfectly normal behavior. Odo is the weird one, having not been socialized in their 'great link' as a child.

Breen

He's a Breen. They were a late arrival to the war

She lost the war and she knew it like all great evils Nazis, Democrats, Leftists, The Dominion when they're going to lose they will destroy everything before giving up

Defeat. Genocide. Why quibble with semantics?

okay reinhard