"I AM THE MOST GRACEFUL UNDER PRESSURE" 😭😭😭😭 YOUUUU GOOO, QUEEN!!! IBANDERA ANG PILIPINAS 🇵🇭💗💗💗✨✨✨
@ronnelagustin7208 Жыл бұрын
I love the way she answers questions, straight and direct to the point! She has the power of command when she speaks. The auditorium will listen to her (as Lu said) Seriuosly, she is a total package. I can't wait to see her compete in Miss Universe pageant!
@chaichanatongjan6048 Жыл бұрын
That’s one think I like about her, she’s direct to the point. And she answers the questions. Sometimes there are pageants girls that are straight to the point but after they talked you will ask “what’s the answer? Where?” But for MMD, she answers what is being asked.
@geraldjames.anoche Жыл бұрын
Me to I can't wait,go Michelle elbohin mo cla lahat
@eduardochavacano11 ай бұрын
But lest we forget how she lost to Cortessi, because she became Fake due to ill comm coaching and attempt to indirectly point out that Cortessi is not a Filipino. That attempt set her up in flames, the year she was suppose to be winner.
@lieustars48129 ай бұрын
going back after she placed top 10 and made all of us proud! she def deserves to be in higher placement. But nevertheless, she was perfect during the competition.
@alexandraurfano38868 ай бұрын
Truely true! Yung expectations ng mga Filipino sa kanya, sinobrahan nya po 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤ napakagandang laban. Palaging wow paglalabas sya e.. Walang tapon ❤❤❤
@fancheela Жыл бұрын
i think the advantage of Michelle Dee is she's headstrong demeanor, a realist, always her two feet on the ground, she has inner strength, very calm , and open minded. I hope my character analysis is right. She is like Beatrice , has no superficiality.
@pinoykenwachannels Жыл бұрын
We agree with you.
@feldscab Жыл бұрын
I am with you on this!
@Fred-wt5xn Жыл бұрын
True, the bi 💗💜💙 queens are strong💪 if Beatrice can make it to top 5 well Michelle can do it too
@elalouieanthonybseden1-13 Жыл бұрын
Ang galing ni Queen MMD magsalita..di ko ma describe pero may something sa kanya na nakakamangha..galing
@denzyardan4859 Жыл бұрын
MMD is someone you can look up to because she exudes strength. I feel like you can rely on her in anything she says or does. Go Michelle! Keep going! Keep inspiring!
@chubanungbaimsong7478 Жыл бұрын
Michelle Dee is a person of her own and I just love how positive she is. “No matter where the universe takes her, I will always be proud to call myself a MMD fan” I quote haha 🫶🏻
@pprrusell Жыл бұрын
Michelle is very articulate and is real and honest. I'm becoming a fan. Galing!
@krar0519 Жыл бұрын
Grabe! This is how a true queen answers - eloquent, consistent and unbothered. She's just relaxed and she really knows how to handle this type of statements and questions. Responses were obviously not rehearsed, organized and genuine. Truly a transformational queen! 🇵🇭
@owenthedubber9053 Жыл бұрын
You will be the 5th Miss Universe from the philippines .. I can feel it ❤
@pinoykenwachannels Жыл бұрын
We do.👑🇵🇭
@reemvae2096 Жыл бұрын
Amen🤲
@cassandrasytangco402 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂uy wag ganon pag pangunahan maya nd matuloy pero sana nga nd 😂😂😂
@mjparadero7046 Жыл бұрын
Yun din sinabi natin kay Celeste pero na El Tocuyo
@cabral1422 Жыл бұрын
@@mjparadero7046 iba naman si Celeste kay MMD. Common sense.
@ryanbrell Жыл бұрын
O my gosh you guys!!! I Can feel her burning aura!!! Full of fighting spirit. So strong 💥💥💥💥
@marcobongcawel Жыл бұрын
Di ako fan ni Michelle Dee before winning the MUPh but she deserves the crown! Very eloquent magsalita, may purpose, she's really prepared and nakikita ko si Janine Tugonon sa kanya. Mga kababayan, let's support our very own representative! ❤🎉
@geraldjames.anoche Жыл бұрын
Yah ur right kabogera toh
@billysantiago635 Жыл бұрын
True , thanks po
@Tech-gv6qk Жыл бұрын
true dzai, Zambales or Bohol bet ko that time pero wala eh taob sila sa Q&A.
@ralphukkang456411 ай бұрын
thank you po.
@ma.monicacoquia243711 ай бұрын
@@Tech-gv6qkTama Zambales will have her time MUP 2024.. for now lets support our own❤️❤️
@TheKing-wg8qy Жыл бұрын
Such elegance... Philippines you have a genuine Queen right here... Love from Africa ❤️
@ivantlctv8898 Жыл бұрын
The way she express her thought is not like a templated one na kahit saang question pwedeng ipasok. She's eloquent and natural wit ang advantage nya.
@Jamie_Dalumpines Жыл бұрын
Trueee!!
@archieleonida9738 Жыл бұрын
What I like about MMD is her focus on her goals atm. Napaka headstrong. She emits the "Bea Vibe" which we all witnessed during her stint in Eilat last 2021. I do hope that she gets the best preparations that cover every aspect of the contest, be it in NatCos, EG, Pasarela, QnAs etc. People might be hyping a particular lady recently as a sure win in the upcoming edition, but it is every girl's ballgame once they stepped in to El Salvador. Some darkhorses reigned supreme than favorites-turned-clappers last edition : including our very own representative. Kaya let's not be hasty to judge her and her future placement, kung di rin naman natin alam ang preparations na ginagawa niya at ng team niya ngayon.
@feldscab Жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!!
@lcd_777 Жыл бұрын
are you talking about Miss Universe Thailand?
@jasonflores4250 Жыл бұрын
@@lcd_777obviously miss thailand hahaha
@eduardochavacano11 ай бұрын
@@lcd_777 The insecurity of some people is making pageants a war zone. First, they force to created an illusion of Team Asia to make it less obvious that the girls they sent to win their battles is not even from Asia. Their insecurity about Latinas make them create the Team Asia drama, but as soon as Thailand, Vietnam, or Indonesia showed potential to overtake them, the crab mentality illness will drive then to stub Thailand at the back.
@jcmost946911 ай бұрын
All her team we don't know what big package there preparation dhil di natin nkikita as of now .walang link sa mga natcos to the gown gonna be exciting part
@rbp2950 Жыл бұрын
The Most Strongest Contender this Yr Ms DEEuniverse POWERFUL ✔️ Advocacy ✔️ Bio ✔️ Credentials ✔️ EXPERIENCE
@jamesrioja8059 Жыл бұрын
MMD's communication skill is just so admirable.❤ Wishing to have confidence like her. Can't wait to see her rocking and slaying on stage. You're just so empowering. 🥰
@paulangelod.santos3210 Жыл бұрын
Sa'yo ako DEE!!! YOU WILL BE CROWNED! i love that there's always substance and eloquence in her answers despite the questions being silly. Just like Cat, I can listen to her all day!
@josephpeterarguelles4725 Жыл бұрын
YES ME TOO SHE MOVED ME TO BECOME INSPIRED. DEE AKO NAGKAKAMALI NA SUSUPORTAHAN KO SIYA ALL THE WAY.
@eduardochavacano11 ай бұрын
The fans want everyone to sound like Catriona, who is regarded by her fans as super intelligent. So the new queens are forced to become less authentic and talk like a blonde bimbo or foreign vloggers pretending that fish balls and kikiam taste like bacon or truffles. Michelle lost her greatest asset, her authenticity. Because the ignorant fans think that intelligence is about sounding like a Miss Teen Ohio or Miss Gay Nebraska who eats a bowl of cereals with Red Bull energy drink for breakfast. The fans ruin their own candidates because they can't move on from the previous wins that no one outside the Philippines remember. Michelle is a product of an elite university and she grew up in a ranch, so she has class and breeding. But the commoners just want her to sound like their favorite foreign vloggers who eat adobo and cry tears of joy.
@Jeloration11 ай бұрын
Same, when she speaks she got our attention but to listen. I think it’s because of her authenticity, she inspired me right away
@hanabimizuki60249 ай бұрын
@@josephpeterarguelles4725🎉
@johnelysantiago Жыл бұрын
I love her! I love her answers, the way she answers. Can’t wait to see her in action in El Salvador!
@Jeloration Жыл бұрын
Love you even more. ❤ I believe in you. With your authenticity,advocacy, your communication skills, credentials you will go far this year. If you reach the top5 ,you will slaughtered everyone in q&a . I wish you all the Best. ❤ Please know that you are loved. Even though majority of your people hates you and bashed you, just know that you have people who loves you. Keep fighting. Raise your flag loud and proud. All the love from 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳 ❤❤❤
@ralphcoronado1548 Жыл бұрын
Don't mind them Michelle. No matter what, you're a brave woman. Take the insult as a challenge. Go go fighting.
@sherwinanonuevo5515 Жыл бұрын
Im not a fan of hers but clearly, her edge over Antonia is her wits. She is the better speaker which MU is looking for.
@vicfortela Жыл бұрын
si MMD natural beauty si anntonia ang dami raw retoke as per spanish bloggers
@shanaeverywhere Жыл бұрын
@@vicfortelanasubaybayan ko kasi yan sa Supra Yung journey Niya bago Siya nanalo dun, iba na talaga itsura Niya before at ngayon
@bellajuyad902311 ай бұрын
@@vicfortelaobvious ang lips nya medyo lumaki na compare sa Supra time
@jcmost946911 ай бұрын
Dami nga kc ngsasabi magic face which kita talaga nanood ako sa supra nya 2019 from forehead to chin and jaw mkikita un nerve sa forehead nya tas lips more even wider now ...mraming di nk recognise sa face nya sa 2019 now compare 2023 beauty
@shanaeverywhere11 ай бұрын
@@jcmost9469 mas bet ko beauty Niya before e natural, sweet tignan ang youthful pero maganda
@hera.g.official Жыл бұрын
MMD : " YOU CAN'T TAKE THE CROWN AWAY FROM ME." 🔥
@jaszarvlogs3584 Жыл бұрын
SO WHAT ATLEAST SYA MAY KORONA IKAW.
@richmondreyes7037 Жыл бұрын
@@RanTakahashi.Nippon😂😂😂
@ainsleymedi_ Жыл бұрын
@@RanTakahashi.Nipponpauline and her delusional fans 😊
@lulukring8706 Жыл бұрын
Of course. Ikaw na! Gang miss universe 2023.
@pinoykenwachannels Жыл бұрын
@@RanTakahashi.Nipponit was destined for her to win it.
@Sphcsm Жыл бұрын
SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE'S DOING PERIODT!
@lindanimfeka Жыл бұрын
She must improve on her Walk plz
@bypathsandbeyond Жыл бұрын
She has some of the most cruel bashers, and sadly many of them are Filipinos. But with MMD's mindset, determination and purpose, she will bring her A+ game, and give the Philippines a greater chance at making it far. You go, girl, and do what you do best! Thank you, MMD, for noticing the questions I submitted (9:10), and answering them here. I am looking forward to seeing more of your work on autism awareness, inclusivity, and empowerment. And eventually inspire more people to take part in these causes. Wishing you well through November 18th and beyond!
@user-fu4jt2vr2e Жыл бұрын
u looked strong in ur physical outlook but, I feel u have a soft loving heart.. to all bashers, we can never judge anyone if we never know them personally, choose to become better than being bitter.. spread positivity and become good person.. MMD will be the next MU queen of 2023♥️👑🇵🇭
@reigneluciano82978 ай бұрын
Napunta ko dto kc hinahalungkat ko lahat ng mga interviews nya 😅 Grabe! Ang galeng nya sumagot napapangiti ako s mga sagot nya sa bashers nya kc napakapositive nya pa din. The unbothered Queen ❤❤❤😊
@gelmarccuaton8829 Жыл бұрын
Manifesting the crown for her! 🧡
@Padudie Жыл бұрын
Queen with substance. ❤️
@sapphireblue5026 Жыл бұрын
Very Morena beauty, beautiful Filipina Miss Michelle❤ 🇵🇭
@SnakeGem Жыл бұрын
Kudos to this aspect of training for MMD. She also needs to be emotionally and psychologically prepared when she competes in El Salvador! Good luck to MMD! 💙💛❤️
@baijeravlogsjeramyjuntado Жыл бұрын
Love her ❤ she's smart and very tall ❤❤❤❤😍
@aviieep Жыл бұрын
YES THE UNBOTHERED QUEEN 💅🏻🔥
@ninocrisybiosa6579 Жыл бұрын
What a great spirit and mindset 👏👏👏
@wifeywife7286 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the Judges who choosing you to represent Philippines in miss universe stage you are such an amazing representative thanks for inspiring us and for the help to those people who has special needs.
@romeoborresjr3011 Жыл бұрын
Another Miss Universe Title for the Phils.,lets support our kababayan with her Journey towards the crown..
@AvednigoJingco-hh9ld Жыл бұрын
After watching this video I believe and now realized that Michelle is ready to conquer the universe...
@watachiwakeme5498 Жыл бұрын
Very janine Togonon maraming ayaw na pinoy pero lalaban at lalaban to Sa miss universe finals ito ang kaylangan natin para makabalik 🇵🇭👌🏻💪🏻
@nerdynerdy1234 Жыл бұрын
Give your 100% best on this edition, Michelle. It is always the outcome that matters, hindi ang hype at hotpics.
@gata_salvaje69 Жыл бұрын
NOW, I LOVE HER EVEN MOOORREEE❤❤❤❤Go Queen, madami mang mga dugyot at chaka na nangbabash sayo pero mas marami naman kaming MAGAGANDANG NAGMAMAHAL SAYO!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤
@mhytanghal1097 Жыл бұрын
Wow and I'm one of them☺️🥰
@pinoykenwachannels Жыл бұрын
True and hahaha ang comment mo. Naaliw kami. ❤
@gata_salvaje69 Жыл бұрын
@@mhytanghal1097 Yes mhie. Wag tayo patalo sa mga chaka😂😂😂
@gata_salvaje69 Жыл бұрын
@@pinoykenwachannels Kainis angmga dugyot mhie. Andami nila lalo na sa tiktok😂
@pinoykenwachannels Жыл бұрын
@@gata_salvaje69 Panalo sana pwede i share to hahaha 😂❤️
@kileymedel963611 ай бұрын
Super strong and powerful nito si MMD. Hindi impossible na makapasok sa top 5 or even bring home the crown.
@geraldjames.anoche11 ай бұрын
Yah
@reynaldolinagaibaleiii4311 Жыл бұрын
Very calm and collected. Love it Queen! 💖
@cubessopranista8772 Жыл бұрын
Michelle Dee. Last year, I was for Celeste. But this year, I went with you. Up to now Aug 23 2023, I am still for you. The judges are right in choosing you. Don't listen to the other stupid (especially those stupid Filipino) bashers. I support you, and pray 🙏 for you. It's not your fault that the judges chose you to win. It's not your fault that the others got the scraps. 😜😝😭 Lastly, I love 😍 you! ❤❤❤ Go for the crown 👑 and just do your best. Don't be affected by those stupid and ugly bashers.
@romilmadelomagdayo158 Жыл бұрын
No matter what other people talk behind your back Im one of your 104 million Filipino peoole who will cheer behind you instead of giving you a negative energy in EL SALVADOR 🇵🇭🙏🇵🇭♥️
@nivras2757 Жыл бұрын
Great personality. Whatever the outcome is, her mindset, dispositions and perspective in life is worthy for the Universe! ( beyond the pageant)
@jojodiaz3187 Жыл бұрын
Good luck Michele, I know u will do ur best ❤️
@VergilynInoncillo Жыл бұрын
Michelle Dee is like Beatrice Gomez,never niyang inisip yung mga basher niya,mas nag focus siya doon sa goal niya and sa mga taong naniniwala saknya..that's why she enter the top 5 finalist..nevermined all the basher,pampagulo lng ung mga un eh..just focus on your goal and get the crown for the Philippines ♥️♥️♥️
@markedisonhayward1504 Жыл бұрын
Hi Michelle, just know that your beauty is so refreshing. You are going to stand out next to your other competitors. Your beauty is so unique. The viewers are going to enjoy a different flavor of beauty, and darn you always look so expensive.😁
@romsalategwen Жыл бұрын
Ito ung Beauty Queen na habang tumatagal mas lalo mong hahangaan at mamahalin. Hindi ko sya gaano gusto dati pero ngayon I so love her na. Super unique ng atake nya. Sa totoo lang, kaya sya nanalo kasi nga kakaiba binigay nyang atake nong Final show that's why She Won. Ganyan dapat iba ang eksena mo magpakita ka ng bago at uniqueness. Dapat emotera ka ganun para lumaki mata ng mga judge at audience. Malaki ang chance nya manalo. Miss Universe 2023 is Michelle Dee ❤❤❤
@syllver2114 Жыл бұрын
QUEEN THINGS! MMD! QUEEN THINGS! Let the bashers grope with nothing but suffering.
@tiramissyoukeyk Жыл бұрын
I used to dislike her during the coronation and right after she was crowned. Right after several days I realize why she won the crown. She deserved it. No matter kung ano man maging outcome ng upcoming MU im pretty sure na she will fight for the crown. ❤
@wanda652711 ай бұрын
An intelligent and highly articulate young woman.
@francisjosephderla509811 ай бұрын
Smart and Beautiful ❤️🙏❤️
@mikebolano Жыл бұрын
Grabe im more so in love with you Michelle! Please do remember na if you have bashers meron kang mas maraming fans that believe in you! Go! God bless.
@vince178211 ай бұрын
Laban MMD! ❤️
@yenxilef458 Жыл бұрын
More please.. Kakabitin.. She's so engaging.. I want to listen to everything she's saying all day 😊❤
@arpee5802 Жыл бұрын
Michelle DeeUniverse anwers exactly to the questions ask
@iamrenzramientos Жыл бұрын
Her answers is so natural and relatable..Hindi tunog pageantry and memorize...
@maryv.4893 Жыл бұрын
She's my winner Last year with Celeste. but I support Celeste in MU stage. Now your turn MMD show what you got girl. ❤
@KnockOnWood-sw3iu Жыл бұрын
If Michelle won last year, she would’ve made it harder for R’Bonney to win MU
@maryv.489311 ай бұрын
Yes that's right.
@tanethpalma481811 ай бұрын
Miss Michelle Dee, we from.Iloilo we're proud of you. You deserve to be Miss U. PHILIPPINES. Our prayers 🙏 is always with u.
@joseuy586711 ай бұрын
Yes Michelle Dee I love you. Ang superb mo sa lahat. You have great body, your graceful, very smart in the QA. Brilliant yourskin fantastically smooth. I have confidence you'll win because you are you
@jericoalcantara169411 ай бұрын
Such a good speaker… I do believe she’ll place ! 👏🏼🤞🏻
@jc28parker23 Жыл бұрын
I love MMD even though I was rooting for Pauline. 100% she will slay in MS. U most esp. sa indoor interview.
@rizzaquiatchon3375 Жыл бұрын
Yeah diyan siya magaling. Di yan mananalo sa Head to head challenge sa MW 2019 kung di magaling sa talakan. Sa MU kasi ang CLOSE DOOR INTERVIEW ang pinagbabasehan nila bago ka makapasok sa top. Kumbaga malaking points ang kinukuha nila don.
@jc28parker23 Жыл бұрын
@@rizzaquiatchon3375 very true :)
@xeleztino50729 ай бұрын
Ganda ni MMD. Bagay ang short hair. Soar high.
@clkjermen11 ай бұрын
You're beautiful! Go, Queen Michelle! 💙❤💛
@jonathanzipagan1371 Жыл бұрын
For me Miss Universe ka come what may stay humble&grounded just keep on praying...
@ld_ahronn Жыл бұрын
LEZZZGOOOO! For Dee Universe!!❤🎉
@user-we7eo7yz3r Жыл бұрын
Speaking and Delivery,,,, very witty❤❤❤
@wifeywife7286 Жыл бұрын
She’s very smart wow
@thestarchannel Жыл бұрын
Michelle Marquez Dee will be the next Ms. Universe 2023. 👑777
@greenlantern9577 Жыл бұрын
Same to rbonney theres too much hates and bashing to rbonney But rbonney still do her best as a good woman and still doing her advocacy all times Then rbonney win miss u 2022
@keithannedelossantos9457 Жыл бұрын
For me Michelle Dee is Our Miss Universe 2023 ❤❤
@jupiterkino2642 Жыл бұрын
MMD has the winning attitude and commanding aura. We believe in you.💙🙏
@rjespera1676 Жыл бұрын
She got game!
@waterlilly7811 ай бұрын
To me U stand out. Because UR are aproud Pinoy. ❤
@WarayBatasanKuno Жыл бұрын
Perfect ka jan girl. Laban lang. Nothing to lose. Showcase yourself lang and your advocacies ❤❤❤. We are here to listen!
@Jeloration Жыл бұрын
And why her outfits always on point and she wears them all with Class.😩😩😩
@aaaddd8888 Жыл бұрын
She reminds me of Anchilee MUT 2021 in a shorter hair version.
@maxandmaggie2010 Жыл бұрын
You are one of the most beautiful Miss Universe Philippines.
@rhendeer8 ай бұрын
jusko ang mmd effect napanuod ko na ata lahat ng past videos 🤣❤ makikita mo talaga na mabait syang tao kahit ang rude ng mga tao sa kanya 🥺
@excelpajo759311 ай бұрын
I can feel her competitive spirit but in a good way. I am sure that MMD will definitely bring PH back on track as one of the powerhouses in the international pageants.
@purposivecommunication38611 ай бұрын
I see the MU 2023 CROWN GEEZE SHES WINNING THE GAME. I LOVE MMD
@joannegallardo188211 ай бұрын
I only watched the short version on you tube, you actually stand out. Your self confidence was oozing! Best of luck in November. Rooting for you, you'll conquer Dee Universe.
@hera.g.official Жыл бұрын
Queen MMD ❤❤❤
@nielarro1032 Жыл бұрын
she really deserve to be a miss u
@therustytraveler11 ай бұрын
She wasn't my favorite but I am definitely happy that she won. She's very Filipina: her looks, her skin, her face, which I definitely admire. she speaks very well too at palaban kung sumagot. And her advocacy is admirable. She definitely deserved the crown.
@mhytanghal109711 ай бұрын
That's the right attitude po. Thank you ☺️
@EricSitjarPanganiban Жыл бұрын
LETS SUPPORT MICHELLE DEE! THIS GIRL IS IN IT TO WIN IT! LABAN PILIPINAS!
@bebotobejero5782 Жыл бұрын
full package talaga sya..wish you good luck michelle dee.!
@CRiSPOP. Жыл бұрын
She reminds me of Pia and Bea with a little bit of Catriona. She knows her purpose. She is true to herself. Exciting MU competition to look forward to for this year 2023 ❤
@Blinkkkkk-s8x Жыл бұрын
Laban Michelle For DEE UNIVERSE
@jepoyvlog772411 ай бұрын
Close door interview pa lang pasok na to sa semi finals dahil Panalo to sa head to head challenge ng Miss World. Medyo alangan lang ako sa swimsuit round nya pero sa evening gown segurado akong pasok sa top 10 Napaka elegante magdala ng gown. Kung makapasok to sa top 5 kukuda nato hanggang top 3 mark my work masusungkit nya ang korona. Ang galing nito mag construct ng sentence step by step sa pagsagot ng QnA.
@Jeloration11 ай бұрын
Yes, if she’s in the top5 , she will slaughtered everyone in q&a.
@pherltv9 ай бұрын
Goodluck Michelle! I am very positive that you will bring home the Crown. Gogogo lang. You can do it.. I feel it
@hanabimizuki60249 ай бұрын
Aw
@confidentlybeautiful2108 Жыл бұрын
I m so excited to watch Ms Universe...Michelle Dee might get the crown...she's unique
@cesarb6780 Жыл бұрын
She can talk, and she can talk a lot. Laban 🇵🇭
@angelinelapuz4633 Жыл бұрын
Laban MMD!!! ❤
@rayfrancisco494111 ай бұрын
Sophisticated Queen!
@danieljose624411 ай бұрын
Your so intelligent and very compident to answer all the messages and questions to you by the people and your so pretty Michelle wish you good luck to your journey for the MU 🇵🇭 2023 🌹
@jadoixa11 ай бұрын
she's very natural, she can make it.
@edwinelmejor0811 ай бұрын
I don’t understand why you guys don’t like her. The way she talks is very beautiful and powerful. She is also very modern and charismatic. I like that she’s not your cookie cutter pageant queen. You guys should be proud of her. She has the goods to go far in the competition.
@marap4107 Жыл бұрын
She looks best with that hairstyle. I hope she keeps it. It looks sleek and fierce.